Re: [mb-style] IMDB and derivative releases

2011-06-15 Thread Johannes Weißl
Hello Frederic,

On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 03:10:38PM +0200, Frederic Da Vitoria wrote:
  The question is:
  a) allow IMDb links only for soundtracks
  b) allow IMDb links also for other official albums that are clearly
 connected to the IMDb entry (e.g. contains songs from the
  movie/series)
 
  I guess b) is better because the film is more or less the equivalent
  to our Work or at least to something which we would put in that table,
  but since we obviously don't put films in the Work table, the IMDb AR
  serves a similar purpose to a Work-Work AR. If we choose a), we loose
  the information that this release is related to this film.
 
 Thinking further: ... but the IMDb AR is not quite suited for this
 purpose. So we'd need to either enhance the AR to say that the release
 is the soundtrack or only a derived release, or create a new AR for
 this purpose.

Yes, the text of the AR (has an IMDb page at) is misleading, since the
links usually lead to movies, and there are separate pages for the
soundtrack. The explanation says:
Relates a soundtrack album to the Internet Movie Database page for the
movie, show or game of which it is a soundtrack.

So I agree, it would be nice to have something like the Samples From
AR [1] for release groups (e.g. Songs From). What do you think?


[1] http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Samples_From_Relationship_Type


Johannes


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Re: [mb-style] IMDB and derivative releases

2011-06-15 Thread Frederic Da Vitoria
2011/6/15, Johannes Weißl jar...@molb.org:
 Hello Frederic,

 On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 03:10:38PM +0200, Frederic Da Vitoria wrote:
  The question is:
  a) allow IMDb links only for soundtracks
  b) allow IMDb links also for other official albums that are clearly
 connected to the IMDb entry (e.g. contains songs from the
  movie/series)
 
  I guess b) is better because the film is more or less the equivalent
  to our Work or at least to something which we would put in that table,
  but since we obviously don't put films in the Work table, the IMDb AR
  serves a similar purpose to a Work-Work AR. If we choose a), we loose
  the information that this release is related to this film.

 Thinking further: ... but the IMDb AR is not quite suited for this
 purpose. So we'd need to either enhance the AR to say that the release
 is the soundtrack or only a derived release, or create a new AR for
 this purpose.

 Yes, the text of the AR (has an IMDb page at) is misleading, since the
 links usually lead to movies, and there are separate pages for the
 soundtrack. The explanation says:
 Relates a soundtrack album to the Internet Movie Database page for the
 movie, show or game of which it is a soundtrack.

 So I agree, it would be nice to have something like the Samples From
 AR [1] for release groups (e.g. Songs From). What do you think?

Either that or change the AR by adding a original soundtrack check
box (what about non-original soundtracks BTW?) and change the link
formulation accordingly, something like:

is the original soundtrack of the film at and is related to the film at

But this makes me wonder if this modification would not allow useless
ARs to be entered :-/ We'd at least have to set up strict limits on
what is related to would be allowed to mean.

-- 
Frederic Da Vitoria
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[mb-style] IMDB and derivative releases

2011-06-14 Thread Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren
Nothing in the IMDB guideline specifies what to do with stuff like
this: http://musicbrainz.org/edit/14579702

Should these (official) derivative works be linked, or should we keep
it only for official soundtracks and the like?
Whatever the case, an update to the page might be in order.

http://musicbrainz.org/doc/IMDb_Relationship_Type

-- 
Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren

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