Re: [mb-style] Tarragon, Style Council and the winds of change

2006-01-30 Thread Don Redman

On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 03:34:37 +0100, Robert Kaye wrote:

Mr. Secretary: Thank you for accepting this new job -- the stage is  
yours!


OK, I will not do long talks now. Let's get things done.

What currently works well is the community on mb-syle: *You*. You are not  
abolished at all, you are the ones that make things work, you discuss  
style issues, you reach consensus (sometimes :-) ).

So we keep that. Therefore, the first rule is:
(1) Decisions about style issues should be made by the Style Community on  
mb-style. That community has no formal organization.


What also seems to work reasonably well is the trac thingie. From our  
current practice I thus conlude two other rules:
(2) If you do not want a stlye issue to be forgotten, enter it as a Style  
Issue ticket in trac.

(3) If you want a style issue to be fixed, do the work yourself.

This last point needs some clarification: You will need an affirmative nod  
from the Secretary, as you previously needed one from Tarragon. I will  
check a couple of conditions, like:

 - Has the community reached consensus?
 - Have the points on the ChecklistForStyleChanges been checked (Yes, I  
know this page does not exist yet, I'll have to dig Tarragons mail up and  
wikify it).

 - No objections from the elder?
If these conditions are met, I will give you an OK and you can proceed.  
This gives us:

(4) You need an OK from the secretary before you change anything official.

If you put the sentence Need OK from Secretary in the body of your  
email, I will filter it, and you can be sure that I don't miss it. If you  
summarise the answers to the above questions, the OK will come _much_  
quicker than if I have to find this out by myself. Also please include a  
link to the trac ticket.


Finally I want to disempower myself:
(5) If you are unhappy with a decision of the Secretary, publicly call  
upon the Elder. Similarily, if no consensus can be reached the Secretary  
calls upon the Elder


This means that if I have overlooked some dissensus, you can stop me, and  
the matter gets passed over to Robert. Also, if I cannot keep a neutral  
point of view: Slap me! :-).



That's enough rules for now. They are not new, they mostly clarify the  
actual _working_ practice of this community. I'll set up more rules as we  
need them, not earlier.


So, now you can get going: If you want to fix something, request an OK  
from me.

Hope to get things rolling!

  DonRedman

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[mb-style] Tarragon, Style Council and the winds of change

2006-01-29 Thread Robert Kaye

Hi everyone!

Tarragon has recently informed me that he wishes to step down as the  
leader of the Style Council. Given that he declared his tenure to be  
temporary when he helped us emerge from the SG5 debacle, this is not  
really a surprise. Tarragon: Thank you very much for your time and  
helping us out in a time of need. Should I ever get myself down  
to .au, I will buy you a fine dinner and a few rounds of drinks --  
your efforts and support of this project have been phenomenal and I  
deeply appreciate everything you've done for MusicBrainz.


Don Redman and I have been discussing the style council over the last  
couple of weeks and how we should proceed from here to fill the very  
large shoes left behind by Tarragon. We feel that Tarragon's work on  
the ChecklistForStyleChanges wiki page and the adoption of Trac for  
style issues has provided more structure for us to work out style  
issues. Given these two changes and the nebulous nature of the Style  
Council, we believe that it is time to iterate the concept and see if  
we can establish a system that is a little more decentralized and  
thus hopefully more scalable.


From here on out, we would like to try a two-tiered approach that  
consists of these two roles:


1. The Elder: This person will make decisions when the community  
cannot reach consensus. The Elder will read mb-style and generally  
keep up with style happenings, but generally not get involved in day- 
to-day operations. Ideally the Elder will not act until the Secretary  
calls upon the Elder to act. When the Elder is called upon to act on  
an issues, the Elder may ask the proponents of a style issue to  
present their arguments for their approach and against the countering  
approach. These arguments should summarize the issue at hand and  
distill the essence of the issues in a concise manner that will allow  
the Elder to become informed of the nuances of the issue and make an  
informed decision. In essence, the Elder is a benevolent dictator.  
The position of the Elder is a permanent position. [1]


2. The Secretary: This person ensures that the style process moves  
forward and continues to work. The secretary remains neutral on style  
issues and will work to foster consensus on style issues. Should  
consensus not be reached, the secretary calls on the Elder to make a  
decision on a style issue. The secretary will play the role of the  
Elder's right hand in all style issues and will ensure that style  
rules are being followed and adjust style rules as necessary. This  
person will require people to check the ChecklistForStyleChanges,  
open and close issues, give final yeses to style changes if the  
community reaches consensus. Most of this will be administrative work  
and this position will rotate every three months.


As the benevolent dictator of MusicBrainz, I hereby abolish the Style  
Council and assume the role of Elder. I choose Don Redman as my  
Secretary for the next three months.


Thank you for all the folks who have participated in the Style  
Council in the past, but its time to move on and attempt a different  
structure that we use to deal with style problems. We hope that over  
the next three months we can set a number of precedents that match  
our actions here on the style mailing list. Our new Secretary, who is  
very well versed on social issues in all forms, says that our guiding  
principles should be: Make rules by making things work along them.  
Never invent rules before things work. Rules should follow practice,  
not lead it.


In the coming week Don will start by tackling open issues, resolving  
some and passing some on to me to decide.


Mr. Secretary: Thank you for accepting this new job -- the stage is  
yours!


Thanks!


[1] Don and I are using Konrad Adenauer, post-war Germany's first  
chancellor as the example for the Elder. Adenauder had little to no  
precedents (or they were all really poor precedents) to follow when  
he started his job. Adenauer set many precedents for all of the  
chancellors to follow -- many of which are still in use today. More  
on Adenauer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konrad_Adenauer


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