personally I'd rather see work on URL ARs put into the ability to link to
*music* related sites such as purevolume.com or indie911.com or mp3.com or
The Podsafe Music Network or garageband.com
I think having the MySpace AR is acceptable since MySpace is a site that
deals _a lot_ with music and artists. It's a big part of independent artists
getting their music and name out there. I don't believe MySpaces concern on
MB is the community/friends/blog aspect, where as livejournal and such,
there isn't much of a music aspect at all other than users listing what a
they are currently is listening to at the end of a post.
I don't see much of a point of livejournal, or xanga and the like in a
*music* database.
I feel those types of sites are more suited for the current AR of artist fan
pages.
How will this effect sites that are already using the MySpace AR data?
-Brian
Alexander Dupuy-2 wrote:
In July, Ilya Kasnacheev proposed new Artist--URL relationship types to
support links to LiveJournal and other blog sites (in addition to
MySpace). [1][2] After some discussion on the -style list, I proposed
adapting the existing MySpace relationship type to be suitable for other
online communities like LiveJournal[3] and even renamed the MySpace
relationship type on the test.musicbrainz.org server for beta
testing.[4] One useful result of the test.musicbrainz.org experiment
was the discovery that renaming the AR had no effect on the
auto-recognition of MySpace URLs, as long as the description text still
had MySpace or myspace.com (not sure which, the description has both,
and as long as it works, it doesn't really matter).
There was general consensus that this proposed change was reasonable,
and some discussion on the specific format for LiveJournal URL that
should be standardized in the StyleGuideline, with the final post in the
thread some three weeks ago, when Frederik 'Freso' S. Olesen reported
that the folks at #lj_support indicated a preference for LiveJournal
URLs with /profile (a standardized profile page with links to all the
major subpages for the user) as a standard external reference.[5]
Since no major objections were raised during the RFC, and a reasonable
standard for the URLs was developed, I feel that it is appropriate to
advance this to the RFV (veto) stage. I have written an
OnlineCommunityRelationshipType wiki page for the renamed AR, and
re-implemented the name change of the MySpace relationship type on the
test.musicbrainz.org server (it got wiped since the original discussion
thread took place).
I have chosen *not* to include the new has a blog at Artist--URL AR
that was proposed in the initial thread in this RFV; I suspect that
there are very few artists with blogs that aren't hosted on an online
community/social networking site (making a separate blog AR redundant),
and it seemed simpler and less likely to get a veto if we just advance
one change at a time. If somebody else wants to write up the wiki page
for the other AR, and post an RFV for it, I would probably not veto it,
but neither do I feel that it is sufficiently useful or important that I
will do the necessary work.
If there are no vetos by the end of the veto period (one week? two
weeks?) *and* somebody who knows of an artist with a LiveJournal page
creates an instance of the AR on the test server and updates the
Examples section of the OnlineCommunityRelationshipType wiki page with
that instance, I will make the corresponding changes on the live server,
update the Wiki to reflect the official nature of the change (including
redirecting all references to MySpaceRelationshipType), and even post a
notice on blog.musicbrainz.org.
I would create the example myself, but I don't know of any artist with a
LiveJournal page myself, nor can I think of any reasonable way to find
one. I strongly suspect that the original proposer and discussants know
several (Russian artists were mentioned in particular) and I have Bcc'd
them just in case they are not subscribed to the -style list directly.
I don't think this is unreasonable to ask as I am willing to do the rest
of the work, and if there nobody willing to find even one example, then
it cannot be that important or useful a change to make.
@alex
[1]
http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-users/2006-July/012640.html
[2]
http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2006-July/003353.html
[3]
http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2006-July/003360.html
[4]
http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2006-July/003362.html
[5]
http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2006-July/003377.html
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