Re: signature delimiter
On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 02:47:18PM +0800, Reed Lai wrote: > > > Seniors, > > > > > > As I remember, the signature delimiter "--" in mail body is a > > "-- " > > Ah... I can not understand your answer... > I mean... my question is that the "--" is mentioned in which RFC > document? You can try tu use these RFC crawler : http://www.rfc-editor.org/ http://www.nexor.com/index-rfc.htm Good luck, and post results Christophe > > -- > Reed Lai http://w3.icpdas.com/reed/ | ICPDAS http://www.icpdas.com > GnuPG (DSA/ElGamal) 0x7199EAD3 Reed Lai (key #1) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > KeyServer: search.keyserver.net | HAM: BV4QO | NIC-handle: RL7000 -- Christophe Barbé <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GnuPG FingerPrint: E0F6 FADF 2A5C F072 6AF8 F67A 8F45 2F1E D72C B41E msg20744/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Signatures
Hi all! On Sat, 24 Nov 2001, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > Just another quetion: > Is there a possibility to tell mutt to coose the signature randomly > out of a directory? I'm using sigrot (e.g. http://packages.debian.org/stable/mail/sigrot.html) it let's you define a signature file (that means a file where all signatures are listed, seperated by empty lines), you can define a prefix (some lines that are inserted before the signature), you can insert new signatures via command line (no need to edit the sig archive by hand). It generates the ~/.signature for you. I'm calling it once a day (via cron), but you could also call it jus before mutt (alias!?) r as an function inside mutt... Ciao for now, Dirk -- Dirk Ruediger, Rostock, Germany I sometimes think that God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability. Oscar Wilde begin:vcard n:Ruediger;Dirk tel;fax:+49-(0)381-44 60 88 tel;work:+49-(0)381-40 24 154 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.rostock.zgdv.de/ org:ZGDV Zentrum für Graphische Datenverarbeitung e.V.;CAD & Teleservices adr:;;Joachim-Jungius-Straße 11;D-18059 Rostock;;;Germany version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Dipl.-Ing. fn:Dirk Ruediger end:vcard
Re: patches (colored questions, conditional tag-prefix)
On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 09:44:54AM +0530, Prahlad Vaidyanathan wrote: > Hi, > > I saw this thread just today - must've overlooked it the first time it > came around. The reason I'm bringing it up again is that the problem at > hand has not been solved. > > On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 christophe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed > into the ether: > [-- snip --] > > > I should add, this works also for push commands (and it seems to > > > work for exec). I use the following in my .muttrc: folder-hook > > > "regex for all mailing list folders" "push > > > >\"~d>2w\n~F|~D\n\n\n\"" > > > > > > It moves all messages older than 2 weeks except flagged ones to an > > > archive folder (I have other folder-hooks to set appropriate > > > save-hooks). > > > > This is nearly what I would like to do except that I would like to > > keep thread together. ie I would like to move thread with all mails > > older than X days, read and not flagged. > > I want to setup a macro that does this : > > 1. Tag all messages older than, say, 2 weeks > 2. Tag entire threads of those messages, even if some messages in that >thread are newer than 2 weeks. > 3. Delete/Save tagged messages. > > 1, and 3 seem possible, but 2 does not. So far I've been doing it > manually, but as I subscribe to more and more lists it becomes > increasingly tedious. > > Any solutions ? Implement a tag-thread-pattern. That's what I intent to do as soon I find time for it. Please Prahlad, upload your gpg key. Christophe > > pv. > > PS: Sorry for raking up _old_ threads, but I just desperately need this > one to work ! > > -- > Prahlad Vaidyanathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>What, me worry ? > http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! > -- -- Christophe Barbé <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GnuPG FingerPrint: E0F6 FADF 2A5C F072 6AF8 F67A 8F45 2F1E D72C B41E msg20742/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: signature delimiter
> > Seniors, > > > > As I remember, the signature delimiter "--" in mail body is a > "-- " Ah... I can not understand your answer... I mean... my question is that the "--" is mentioned in which RFC document? -- Reed Lai http://w3.icpdas.com/reed/ | ICPDAS http://www.icpdas.com GnuPG (DSA/ElGamal) 0x7199EAD3 Reed Lai (key #1) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> KeyServer: search.keyserver.net | HAM: BV4QO | NIC-handle: RL7000
Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?
* Thomas Hurst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011127 15:43]: > * Samuel Padgett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > So the advantage of Maildir is speed, and the disadvantage is that > > it eats inodes for breakfast? This is my experience, yes. Another advantage is peace of mind that you'll never again fall prey to a corrupted mailbox due to a delivery occurring at the wrong time. (And according to Murphy, it will happen to you, too, and probably right when she emails you her phone number.) The other thing, which it seems is often overlooked and underappreciated, is the ability to use nice things like grep, find, xargs and the like on your mail the way it oughta work. > I do tend to leave deleting/archiving mail until I absolutely can't > stand waiting for the client to load folders any more, though, so maybe > that mainly applies to very large mailboxes. I've killed three MUA's > doing that so far :) Well, I certainly don't mean to tell you how to live your life, but here's how I do mine: set mbox_type=Maildir set record="+archive/sent-mail/`date +%Y/%m-sent-mail-%Y'`" set mbox="+archive/inbox/`date '+%Y/%m-inbox-%Y'`" set move This allows me to be lazy *and* keeps everything fast as lightning. I can still get to my last month's worth of incoming or outgoing mail with a quick "c<" or "c>". Older stuff is there, too, all neatly sorted and requiring no attention by me. good times, Vineet -- Satan laughs when # "I disapprove of what you say, but I will we kill each other.# defend to the death your right to say it." Peace is the only way. # --Beatrice Hall, The Friends of Voltaire, 1906 msg20740/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: signature delimiter
On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 01:05:30PM +0800, Reed Lai wrote: > Seniors, > > As I remember, the signature delimiter "--" in mail body is a "-- " -- Regards Cliff
signature delimiter
Seniors, As I remember, the signature delimiter "--" in mail body is a standard from RFC, but I forget which RCF is. Anybody remembers that please tell me. Thanks! -- Reed Lai http://w3.icpdas.com/reed/ | ICPDAS http://www.icpdas.com GnuPG (DSA/ElGamal) 0x7199EAD3 Reed Lai (key #1) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> KeyServer: search.keyserver.net | HAM: BV4QO | NIC-handle: RL7000
Re: patches (colored questions, conditional tag-prefix)
Hi, I saw this thread just today - must've overlooked it the first time it came around. The reason I'm bringing it up again is that the problem at hand has not been solved. On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 christophe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed into the ether: [-- snip --] > > I should add, this works also for push commands (and it seems to > > work for exec). I use the following in my .muttrc: folder-hook > > "regex for all mailing list folders" "push > > \"~d>2w\n~F|~D\n\n\n\"" > > > > It moves all messages older than 2 weeks except flagged ones to an > > archive folder (I have other folder-hooks to set appropriate > > save-hooks). > > This is nearly what I would like to do except that I would like to > keep thread together. ie I would like to move thread with all mails > older than X days, read and not flagged. I want to setup a macro that does this : 1. Tag all messages older than, say, 2 weeks 2. Tag entire threads of those messages, even if some messages in that thread are newer than 2 weeks. 3. Delete/Save tagged messages. 1, and 3 seem possible, but 2 does not. So far I've been doing it manually, but as I subscribe to more and more lists it becomes increasingly tedious. Any solutions ? pv. PS: Sorry for raking up _old_ threads, but I just desperately need this one to work ! -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg20737/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?
Thomas Hurst wrote: > * Samuel Padgett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > So the advantage of Maildir is speed, and the disadvantage is that > > it eats inodes for breakfast? > > I was under the impression Maildir was extremely slow, just without > locking issues, making it a good option for pop3 servers. my understanding is that it's fast; however some types of filesystems are slow with a lot of small files (ie ext2). with POP3, the issue isn't so much locking (IIRC) but that it doesn't have to open the whole file everytime someone pops some mail off when maildir is used. maildir itself should be faster than mbox with the right filesystem, or at least that's the theory. w
Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?
Sam -- ...and then Samuel Padgett said... % David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: % % > ...and then Samuel Padgett said... % > % Mutt seems to use the values out of the Sender header and the Date % > % header to construct the From_ line. So maybe the solution is the % > % > Makes sense -- if it's there. I just checked another message to see and % > there was no Sender: header. It's new to me, though I did a quick grep % > on my spoolfile and found quite a few right off. % % I think Gnus uses Sender: to check whether you should be allowed Ahhh... % to cancel a Usenet post. But that should go away now that they've % added cancel locks. Gotcha. % % > % roundabout nnml -> mbox using Gnus, then mbox -> Maildir -> mbox % > % using Mutt. Hm. That's a lot of work. % > % > With tagging it should be easy, right? % % Well, OK, Mutt will do most of the work--but it's still a lot of % work ;-) Yeah, I'll give you that :-) % % > % Or perhaps I should just switch to Maildir. % > % > I hear that that's almost always a fantastic idea. I personally have % > been too lazy :-) % % So the advantage of Maildir is speed, and the disadvantage is that % it eats inodes for breakfast? Those both sound right, but I don't know much else. There has been some discussion of box formats in the past; you might check the archives. % % Maybe I should switch to a journaling filesystem as well. Doesn't sound like a bad idea no matter what your box format. % % Sam :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg20735/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?
* Samuel Padgett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > So the advantage of Maildir is speed, and the disadvantage is that > it eats inodes for breakfast? I was under the impression Maildir was extremely slow, just without locking issues, making it a good option for pop3 servers. I do tend to leave deleting/archiving mail until I absolutely can't stand waiting for the client to load folders any more, though, so maybe that mainly applies to very large mailboxes. I've killed three MUA's doing that so far :) -- Thomas 'Freaky' Hurst - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.aagh.net/
Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?
David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ...and then Samuel Padgett said... > % Mutt seems to use the values out of the Sender header and the Date > % header to construct the From_ line. So maybe the solution is the > > Makes sense -- if it's there. I just checked another message to see and > there was no Sender: header. It's new to me, though I did a quick grep > on my spoolfile and found quite a few right off. I think Gnus uses Sender: to check whether you should be allowed to cancel a Usenet post. But that should go away now that they've added cancel locks. > % roundabout nnml -> mbox using Gnus, then mbox -> Maildir -> mbox > % using Mutt. Hm. That's a lot of work. > > With tagging it should be easy, right? Well, OK, Mutt will do most of the work--but it's still a lot of work ;-) > % Or perhaps I should just switch to Maildir. > > I hear that that's almost always a fantastic idea. I personally have > been too lazy :-) So the advantage of Maildir is speed, and the disadvantage is that it eats inodes for breakfast? Maybe I should switch to a journaling filesystem as well. Sam
cd.trash_folder waf.save_flag
Hallo, does anybody know, how to use these two patches (waf.save_flag and cd.trash_folder) at the same time. Thanks Nicolas
Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?
Sam -- ...and then Samuel Padgett said... % David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: % % > ...and then Samuel Padgett said... % > % It seems Gnus reads MMDF, but doesn't write it. Gnus does IMAP, % > % > Ahhh... It reads anything and writes only its own (well, OK, mbox); % > urgh. % % Actually, Gnus writes a bunch of stuff: mbox, IMAP, nnml, babyl, % MH spool, NNTP, maybe more? Aha -- mutt handles MH as well! Perhaps that's your most direct route. It's not surprising that Gnus writes lots of different things; in fact, it was surprising that it appeared to not. % % > Interesting. I suppose the acid test would be to let mutt convert a % > Maildir to an mbox and see what it does :-) % % Mutt seems to use the values out of the Sender header and the Date % header to construct the From_ line. So maybe the solution is the Makes sense -- if it's there. I just checked another message to see and there was no Sender: header. It's new to me, though I did a quick grep on my spoolfile and found quite a few right off. % roundabout nnml -> mbox using Gnus, then mbox -> Maildir -> mbox % using Mutt. Hm. That's a lot of work. With tagging it should be easy, right? % % Or perhaps I should just switch to Maildir. I hear that that's almost always a fantastic idea. I personally have been too lazy :-) % % Sam :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg20731/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?
David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ...and then Samuel Padgett said... > % It seems Gnus reads MMDF, but doesn't write it. Gnus does IMAP, > > Ahhh... It reads anything and writes only its own (well, OK, mbox); > urgh. Actually, Gnus writes a bunch of stuff: mbox, IMAP, nnml, babyl, MH spool, NNTP, maybe more? > Interesting. I suppose the acid test would be to let mutt convert a > Maildir to an mbox and see what it does :-) Mutt seems to use the values out of the Sender header and the Date header to construct the From_ line. So maybe the solution is the roundabout nnml -> mbox using Gnus, then mbox -> Maildir -> mbox using Mutt. Hm. That's a lot of work. Or perhaps I should just switch to Maildir. Sam
Re: highlight flaged messages
Hi, On Sun, 25 Nov 2001 David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed into the ether: > Dragos -- > > ...and then Dragos_C said... > % Sorry, but "color index brightblue white ~N" (example) has no effect for > % highlighting mailboxes with unread messages. Another question: I wish to > > I don't use the browser much, but you probably want > > color browser brightblue white ~N AFAIK, the browser cannot be coloured. Just tried this, and mutt gives an error to that effect. The only coloring you can do is in the index and the pager. Anyway, if you have new mail in your folder, the browser will show you an 'N' next to your folder-name, if your $folder_format has a '%N' in it somewhere - so there isn't much point in colouring it. pv. -- Prahlad Vaidyanathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>What, me worry ? http://www.symonds.net/~prahladv/Don't Panic ! -- msg20729/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: pgp signature check on demand
On Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 11:02:02PM +1100, David Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 24 Nov 2001, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote: > > is there any way to check "normal" pgp-signatures on demand like with > > Theres "esc P" note the capitol P, that should verify cleartext sigs. I thought about the pgp/mime sigs, I ended with the following macros: unset pgp_verify_sig macro pager p "set pgp_verify_sig\nunset pgp_verify_sig\n" "Check PGP sig" Nicolas
Re: Strange attachement
On 11/27/01 11:23 AM, David Champion sat at the `puter and typed: > On 2001.11.27, in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Thomas Roessler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > This probably depends on the particular uudecode implementation you > > are using... I've seen uudecode only decode the _first_ attachment. > > Some uudecodes even choke if there's any material in the input stream > before the "begin" line. These wouldn't accept a full mail message very > nicely. OTOH, it's been a long time since I noticed one of these; maybe > they're all extinct. From uudecode(1) on FreeBSD: . . . Uudecode transforms uuencoded files (or by default, the standard input) into the original form. The resulting file is named name and will have the mode of the original file except that setuid and execute bits are not retained. Uudecode ignores any leading and trailing lines. The following options are available for uudecode: -c Decode more than one uuencode'd file from file if possible. -i Do not overwrite files. -p Decode file and write output to standard output. -s Do not strip output pathname to base filename. By default uudecode deletes any prefix ending with the last slash '/' for security purpose. . . . So this version will ignore leading and trailing data, and the -c flag I used in my example will tell it to decode multiple encoded files if possible. uudeview is another option, as Thomas pointed out, I've used this when downloading Loony Toons and old Betty Boop cartoons from newsgroups. Just tag all the messages, save them all to a single file. Then, from the command line, uudeview will sort them, attach parts, and save the decoded portions. I haven't figured out wether it's better to use this for my email decodings, tho. YMMV HTH Lou -- Louis LeBlanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org ԿԬ Hitchcock's Staple Principle: The stapler runs out of staples only while you are trying to staple something. msg20727/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Strange attachement
On 2001.11.27, in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Thomas Roessler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This probably depends on the particular uudecode implementation you > are using... I've seen uudecode only decode the _first_ attachment. Some uudecodes even choke if there's any material in the input stream before the "begin" line. These wouldn't accept a full mail message very nicely. OTOH, it's been a long time since I noticed one of these; maybe they're all extinct. -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
how to handle multiple imap-ssl accounts
Hi! I'm using mutt 1.3.23 with multiple IMAP-SSL account (debian's patched mutt with ssl support compiled in). I was trying to get mutt to handle each account's INBOX like an own spoolfile, saving sent and read messages to subfolders on the imap-server, but I can't seem to get this working. Maybe I have to quote some more characters in the regex for the folder-hook? Right now, I just have the dots of the imap-host quoted with 2 backslashes "\\". I also tried replacing ${USER} with the actual value. I tried this: === set record="=sent" set mbox="=mbox" set postponed="=postponed" folder-hook . set record="=sent" folder-hook . set mbox="=mbox" folder-hook . set postponed="=postponed" folder-hook /var/mail/${USER} set folder="~/Mail" folder-hook /var/mail/${USER} set spoolfile="/var/mail/${USER}" folder-hook imaps://${USER}@mail1:993/ssl/INBOX set folder="imaps://${USER}@mail1:993/INBOX" folder-hook imaps://${USER}@mail1:993/ssl/INBOX set spoolfile="imaps://${USER}@mail1:993/INBOX" folder-hook imaps://${USER}@mail2:993/ssl/INBOX set folder="imaps://${USER}@mail2:993/INBOX" folder-hook imaps://${USER}@mail2:993/ssl/INBOX set spoolfile="imaps://${USER}@mail2:993/INBOX" mailboxes /var/mail/${USER} \ =mbox =postpone \ =sent \ imaps://${USER}@mail1:993/INBOX \ imaps://${USER}@mail1:993/INBOX/mbox \ imaps://${USER}@mail1:993/INBOX/sent \ imaps://${USER}@mail1:993/INBOX/postpone \ imaps://${USER}@mail2:993/INBOX \ imaps://${USER}@mail2:993/INBOX/mbox \ imaps://${USER}@mail2:993/INBOX/sent \ imaps://${USER}@mail2:993/INBOX/postpone === Read U! packet
Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?
Sam -- ...and then Samuel Padgett said... % David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: % % > ...and then Samuel Padgett said... % > % Hm. Gnus reads Maildir, but doesn't write it (although I think % > % they're working on this). Maybe I can grab a development version. % > % > Can it write MMDF or save to an IMAP server, both of which mutt also % > speaks fluently? % % It seems Gnus reads MMDF, but doesn't write it. Gnus does IMAP, Ahhh... It reads anything and writes only its own (well, OK, mbox); urgh. % though. But then I'd have to set up an IMAP server :-| Heh :-) % % > It seems to me, though it's probably no help to you, that it's % > Gnus that's doing it wrong; % % Possible, although Gnus tends to be a very well-behaved MUA. % Maybe I should ask in a Gnus forum? That certainly wouldn't hurt. % % By the way, I was curious about what slrn does when I use "o" to % save an article: in the From_ line, it uses the address out of the % >From header, but does _not_ use the date out of the Date header. % Instead, like Gnus, it uses the date the message is being saved. Interesting. I suppose the acid test would be to let mutt convert a Maildir to an mbox and see what it does :-) % % > I admit, though, that mutt probably oughta display the Date: % > info instead of the From_ info regardless of whether or not the % > latter is accurate. % % Yes, I think so. FWIW, Gnus uses the Date header when it % constructs its summary buffer. Makes sense; I'm still a little confused on the logic behind that one. % % Sam :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg20723/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: pgp signature check on demand
On Sat, 24 Nov 2001, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote: > is there any way to check "normal" pgp-signatures on demand like with Theres "esc P" note the capitol P, that should verify cleartext sigs. -- Don't tell me I'm burning the candle at both ends -- tell me where to get more wax!! - David Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | David Clarke Key Fingerprint : 869B 53DD 5E80 E1F0 93F6 9871 0508 0296 5957 F723
mutt & gnupg on Windows (cygwin)
Hi, does someone have experience with $Subject, especially SENDING pgp-signed mails ? For some strange reason, the pgp signature of my pgp-signed mails doesn't get thru. I use ssmtp as it comes with cygwin. -- Johannes
Re: Strange attachement
On 2001-11-26 17:54:31 -0500, Louis LeBlanc wrote: > From the index, '.d' causes the entire message to be piped thru >uudecode which will try to decode all encoded attachments. This probably depends on the particular uudecode implementation you are using... I've seen uudecode only decode the _first_ attachment. As an alternative, you could pipe the message through uudeview(1), which will nicely handle multiple uuencoded files in a single message, and even ask you which ones you want to decode. -- Thomas Roesslerhttp://log.does-not-exist.org/ msg20720/pgp1.pgp Description: PGP signature