MTA for Solaris - ideas anyone?

2007-02-16 Thread Eur Ing Chris Green
I am looking for an MTA to use with mutt on a Solaris 2.6 system, so
far none of the ones on http://wiki.mutt.org/?LightSMTPagents builds
successfully though I'm pursuing msmtp still.

Does anyone have any suggestions for a 'light' MTA that will actually
compile on Solaris 2.6.  I've tried the ones in the above list and
so far none compiles.  I can't use the two last ones because we
don't have python.

I can compile mutt and lots of other things, it's just these MTAs seem
to be difficult.

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Chris Green


Re: MTA for Solaris - ideas anyone?

2007-02-16 Thread Charles Cazabon
Eur Ing Chris Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am looking for an MTA to use with mutt on a Solaris 2.6 system, so
 far none of the ones on http://wiki.mutt.org/?LightSMTPagents builds
 successfully though I'm pursuing msmtp still.
 
 Does anyone have any suggestions for a 'light' MTA that will actually
 compile on Solaris 2.6.  I've tried the ones in the above list and
 so far none compiles.  I can't use the two last ones because we
 don't have python.
 
 I can compile mutt and lots of other things, it's just these MTAs seem
 to be difficult.

mini-qmail (a queueless version of qmail) may do what you want; it certainly
compiles cleanly on Solaris.

Charles
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Re: MTA for Solaris - ideas anyone?

2007-02-16 Thread David Champion
* On 2007.02.16, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
*   Eur Ing Chris Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am looking for an MTA to use with mutt on a Solaris 2.6 system, so
 far none of the ones on http://wiki.mutt.org/?LightSMTPagents builds
 successfully though I'm pursuing msmtp still.

Most non-queueing SMTP clients are, shall we say, optimized for Linux.
Getting the native-code ones to compile on Solaris is not an enjoyable
exercise.

If you're using Solaris 2.6, you're probably not on dialup (or
wireless).  What's wrong with a full MTA like sendmail that's simply not
running a listener?  Very likely the sendmail that ships on Solaris 2.6
will work fine, as old as it is.  I wouldn't run it as a server, but as
a client it should be okay.  Plus you get an outbound queue in case of
problems.

Sendmail is very common on Solaris, so even if you do need to compile
it shouldn't be much of an issue, and if you're not running a listener
you don't really need to be very conscious of security issues (in
case you're one of those who feels that sendmail is fatally flawed,
security-wise).

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Re: MTA for Solaris - ideas anyone?

2007-02-16 Thread Eur Ing Chris Green
On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 11:05:51AM -0600, David Champion wrote:
 * On 2007.02.16, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 * Eur Ing Chris Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am looking for an MTA to use with mutt on a Solaris 2.6 system, so
  far none of the ones on http://wiki.mutt.org/?LightSMTPagents builds
  successfully though I'm pursuing msmtp still.
 
 Most non-queueing SMTP clients are, shall we say, optimized for Linux.
 Getting the native-code ones to compile on Solaris is not an enjoyable
 exercise.
 
 If you're using Solaris 2.6, you're probably not on dialup (or
 wireless).  What's wrong with a full MTA like sendmail that's simply not
 running a listener?  Very likely the sendmail that ships on Solaris 2.6
 will work fine, as old as it is.  I wouldn't run it as a server, but as
 a client it should be okay.  Plus you get an outbound queue in case of
 problems.
 
 Sendmail is very common on Solaris, so even if you do need to compile
 it shouldn't be much of an issue, and if you're not running a listener
 you don't really need to be very conscious of security issues (in
 case you're one of those who feels that sendmail is fatally flawed,
 security-wise).
 
Problem is I don't have root access so configuring sendmail is not
really possible.  While I could ask the sysdamin to do stuff, that
isn't a problem as such, I doubt if he's capable of configuring sendmail.

I also really need to send via my own authenticated SMTP as the only
company server available is Exchange.  This is all reasonably 'above
board' by the way, I'm not trying to do things without the business
knowing, it's just that I'm one of the few developers who is 100% on Solaris.

Currently I use an ssh tunnel and sendmail on a remote system but it
would be cleaner, easier and faster if I could run a local light MTA.

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Chris Green


Re: MTA for Solaris - ideas anyone?

2007-02-16 Thread Rado S
=- Eur Ing Chris Green wrote on Fri 16.Feb'07 at 19:33:44 + -=

 Problem is I don't have root access so configuring sendmail is
 not really possible.

You don't need root:
get the config m4-source dir (admin could give you read-access to
them, otherwise get them from source-package), build your own
config (for example 'nullcient'), and then use it with
'sendmail -C .../your-file'
as your $sendmail value.

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EVERY effort counts: at least to show your attitude.
You're responsible for ALL of it: you get what you give.


Re: MTA for Solaris - ideas anyone?

2007-02-16 Thread Eur Ing Chris Green
On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 08:52:16PM +0100, Rado S wrote:
 =- Eur Ing Chris Green wrote on Fri 16.Feb'07 at 19:33:44 + -=
 
  Problem is I don't have root access so configuring sendmail is
  not really possible.
 
 You don't need root:
 get the config m4-source dir (admin could give you read-access to
 them, otherwise get them from source-package), build your own
 config (for example 'nullcient'), and then use it with
   'sendmail -C .../your-file'
 as your $sendmail value.
 
Can sendmail do authenticated SMTP?  If so then this is a distinct
possibility. 

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Chris Green


Re: MTA for Solaris - ideas anyone?

2007-02-16 Thread David Champion
* On 2007.02.16, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
*   Eur Ing Chris Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 08:52:16PM +0100, Rado S wrote:
  =- Eur Ing Chris Green wrote on Fri 16.Feb'07 at 19:33:44 + -=
  
   Problem is I don't have root access so configuring sendmail is
   not really possible.
  
  You don't need root:
  get the config m4-source dir (admin could give you read-access to
  them, otherwise get them from source-package), build your own
  config (for example 'nullcient'), and then use it with
  'sendmail -C .../your-file'
  as your $sendmail value.
  
 Can sendmail do authenticated SMTP?  If so then this is a distinct
 possibility. 

You would need a new sendmail, not the Solaris 2.6 one, but it can.

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Access to where I am in mail hierarchy when using mutt - possible?

2007-02-16 Thread Eur Ing Chris Green
Is there any variable or anything that can be used in mutt macros to
say where one is in the mail hierarchy?

I want to be able to write mutt macros which can do things like create
or delete directories in the mail hierarchy while I'm running mutt.
This seems an obvious sort of thing to want to do but basic mutt
commands don't allow any manipulation of directories.

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Chris Green


Re: Access to where I am in mail hierarchy when using mutt -

2007-02-16 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Eur Ing Chris Green 2007-02-16 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Is there any variable or anything that can be used in mutt macros to
 say where one is in the mail hierarchy?

^ expands to the current folder name.

 I want to be able to write mutt macros which can do things like create
 or delete directories in the mail hierarchy while I'm running mutt.
 This seems an obvious sort of thing to want to do but basic mutt
 commands don't allow any manipulation of directories.

Backticks work - `mkdir`.

Christoph
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Re: Access to where I am in mail hierarchy when using mutt -

2007-02-16 Thread Eur Ing Chris Green
On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 10:58:10PM +0100, Christoph Berg wrote:
 Re: Eur Ing Chris Green 2007-02-16 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Is there any variable or anything that can be used in mutt macros to
  say where one is in the mail hierarchy?
 
 ^ expands to the current folder name.
 
Ah, thank you, I thought I'd read the manual pretty thoroughly but I
didn't spot that.


  I want to be able to write mutt macros which can do things like create
  or delete directories in the mail hierarchy while I'm running mutt.
  This seems an obvious sort of thing to want to do but basic mutt
  commands don't allow any manipulation of directories.
 
 Backticks work - `mkdir`.
 
Now I have ^ I think I have what I need.

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Chris Green


Re: Access to where I am in mail hierarchy when using mutt

2007-02-16 Thread cl
On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 10:16:37PM +, Eur Ing Chris Green wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 10:58:10PM +0100, Christoph Berg wrote:
  Re: Eur Ing Chris Green 2007-02-16 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Is there any variable or anything that can be used in mutt macros to
   say where one is in the mail hierarchy?
  
  ^ expands to the current folder name.
  
 Ah, thank you, I thought I'd read the manual pretty thoroughly but I
 didn't spot that.
 
What version of mutt did this appear in?  ... and/or is this really
right, I can't get ^ to do anything useful.  Can someone provide an
example please.

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Chris Green


Re: Access to where I am in mail hierarchy when using mutt

2007-02-16 Thread Javier Rojas
On Fri, Feb 16, 2007 at 11:34:07PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What version of mutt did this appear in?  ... and/or is this really
 right, I can't get ^ to do anything useful.  Can someone provide an
 example please.
It looks like you are using mutt 1.4. The ^ expansion only exists from
1.5. It its worth the upgrade, in humble opinion :)

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