Re: Generate Reply / New Mail in new shell session
On 03.10.2007 (21:57), Joseph wrote: It would be nice if it was possible to start a New Email or Replies in a new shell session and close it automatically when a mail is sent, without, going through postpone. Is it possible? Sometimes I have to look up/collect some information from several older emails so this kind of functionality would really be handy. I was missing that functionality too. I solved it the other way around: open a new instance of mutt. It's a one-keypress thing (I have a desktop keyboard shortcut win-m set up to run xterm -e mutt), and the effect is, I believe, the same as what you describe. One thing I can't do that way is to tag several messages and add them to what I'm replying to, but how often do I do that...? Eyolf -- Life does not begin at the moment of conception or the moment of birth. It begins when the kids leave home and the dog dies.
Re: Generate Reply / New Mail in new shell session
It would be nice if it was possible to start a New Email or Replies in a new shell session and close it automatically when a mail is sent, without, going through postpone. I was missing that functionality too. I solved it the other way around: open a new instance of mutt. When necessary, I too have resorted to this workaround. However, I'd like to put in another vote for the actual functionality requested. Opening another Mutt is a bit less convenient if you're using something like IMAP to get to your messages, and particularly so if IMAP isn't supporting simultaneous readers on the same mailbox. -Chip -- Chip Killian http://www.cs.ucsd.edu/~ckillian/ UCSD Graduate Student, Computer Science
Odd bug/feature with mixed mbox and maildir
I keep my mail in two separate hierarchies, all incoming mail is delivered (via a perl script which does procmail sort of things) to a series of maildir mailboxes in ~/Mail and ~/Mail/lists. All the mail that I save for any reason is saved in mbox format below ~/savedMail. I have set mbox_type=mbox in my muttrc, mutt recognises the incoming mail in maildir format without problems. However if I 'c' directly to one of the maildir mailboxes, entering its full path then I get to see the following:- - ../ Oct 04 11:11 4.0K cur/ Oct 04 16:36 0.1K new/ Oct 04 16:36 0.1K tmp/ Oct 04 15:34 0.1K I.e. mutt hasn't recognised that it's a maildir. If I navigate there via the directory above (or even go to .. and then back from the abve) mutt recognises it correctly as a maildir. -- Chris Green
Re: Generate Reply / New Mail in new shell session
It would be nice if it was possible to start a New Email or Replies in a new shell session and close it automatically when a mail is sent, without, going through postpone. Is it possible? Check the archives -- possibly a few years back. People have posted examples of how to do this using an external script and a macro. Basically you generate a draft file as normally, but set your editor to an external script that launches a new mutt instance in a new window using that draft file as a template. Then restore $editor and move on. Should be even easier now, with my_ variables. -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago Polka music needs to prevail. John Ziobrowski, Polka America Corporation
Send Later
I know this is not specific to mutt per se, and more to do with my MTA, but anyways I will ask it. I use mutt + fetchmail + procmail + ssmtp. No issues, works great. But just one feature I want to get going. I would like to send my replies or new messages later (all once, but they should get queued in a folder (mailbox), which I should be able to review once, before sending them all in one shot. (Something similar to Kmail - send later). As I understand, ssmtp does not support message queuing, which is possible in other mta's, but if there is any workaround to this (before I explore any other mta), would like to know it. Regards, Anand -- __ _ The Lotus 78 (John Players Special) [ ]_.--'_'._ Notice the greater rake on the main bodywork `( o )_Anand__(o)Z and the extension through to the rear wing.
Re: Send Later
As I understand, ssmtp does not support message queuing, which is possible in other mta's, but if there is any workaround to this (before I explore any other mta), would like to know it. Check the archives, possible several years back. People have posted scripts for this too. :) Basically you set $sendmail to a script that appends your outbound message to a folder (mbox or maildir, your call) and returns. You can have a cron job, an external script, or a macro that splits this folder (using formail, if mbox, or basic looping structures if maildir) and sends each message into ssmtp one by one. -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago Polka music needs to prevail. John Ziobrowski, Polka America Corporation
Re: Send Later
On 10/4/07, bt44 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this is not specific to mutt per se, and more to do with my MTA, but anyways I will ask it. I use mutt + fetchmail + procmail + ssmtp. No issues, works great. But just one feature I want to get going. I would like to send my replies or new messages later (all once, but they should get queued in a folder (mailbox), which I should be able to review once, before sending them all in one shot. (Something similar to Kmail - send later). I use msmtpqueue for the same! http://msmtp.sourceforge.net/tools.html -- Dilip
Re: Generate Reply / New Mail in new shell session
On 10/04/07 10:59, David Champion wrote: It would be nice if it was possible to start a New Email or Replies in a new shell session and close it automatically when a mail is sent, without, going through postpone. Is it possible? Check the archives -- possibly a few years back. People have posted examples of how to do this using an external script and a macro. Basically you generate a draft file as normally, but set your editor to an external script that launches a new mutt instance in a new window using that draft file as a template. Then restore $editor and move on. Should be even easier now, with my_ variables. All I was able to find is a solution with Ctrl-z putting it in a background and starting new session. That is not really a solution. I'm sure somebody has similar macro worked out, it is just a mutter of finding it :-/ -- #Joseph GPG KeyID: ED0E1FB7
No outgoing mail
Help! I have no idea what I did, but I am no longer able send mail via Mutt. I had just finished modifying my .muttrc file to source my alias folder, and now every time that I try to send an email I get an error message stating: Aborted unmodified message. This happens whether or not I try to send using an alias. Nothing was changed (as far as I can tell) to either my getmail or postfix configurations, and I have no trouble sending with Elm. As I say, I haven't a clue what I did to create this condition, but I sure do need to fix it. Any help is much appreciated. Rem
Re: Generate Reply / New Mail in new shell session
All I was able to find is a solution with Ctrl-z putting it in a background and starting new session. That is not really a solution. Agreed. That's not it. I'm sure somebody has similar macro worked out, it is just a mutter of finding it :-/ Something along these lines might work. Untested. It's been years since I used xterm, so I'm not sure if the syntax below is correct for expressing what xterm should run. Might need to add sh -c and quoting, or somesuch. Maybe you need some more dressing, but perhaps this will get you started. If you want this only sometimes, you'll need to macro-fy the muttrc bits. $ cat external-reply #!/bin/sh DRAFT=$1 # hard-link our own copy of the draft so that mutt can remove original ln $DRAFT $DRAFT.tmp ( ## execute this in a bkgrounded subshell, ## allowing the original shell to exit xterm -e exec mutt -H '$DRAFT' rm -f $DRAFT ) exit 0 .muttrc: set editor=external-reply -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago Polka music needs to prevail. John Ziobrowski, Polka America Corporation
Re: Send Later
[Thu, 04/10/07 at 22:48 +0545] Dilip M wrote: On 10/4/07, bt44 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this is not specific to mutt per se, and more to do with my MTA, but anyways I will ask it. I use mutt + fetchmail + procmail + ssmtp. No issues, works great. But just one feature I want to get going. I would like to send my replies or new messages later (all once, but they should get queued in a folder (mailbox), which I should be able to review once, before sending them all in one shot. (Something similar to Kmail - send later). I use msmtpqueue for the same! http://msmtp.sourceforge.net/tools.html Perfect. Added one additional line in msmtp-enqueue.sh to let me save my posts to mbox (also gives me a chance to review them) before I trigger send while being in mutt. cat $MAILFILE | formail $HOME/mail/sent-msmtp || exit 1 Regards, Anand -- Look at Hakkinen's face, look at the actions he's making. He is not at all happy with that racing car.
Re: No outgoing mail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, October 4 at 11:31 AM, quoth Rem P Roberti: I had just finished modifying my .muttrc file to source my alias folder, and now every time that I try to send an email I get an error message stating: Aborted unmodified message. That message happens whenever your editor has not updated the timestamp on the temporary file containing your message. This could happen because you've done something silly like move/copy that temporary file elsewhere, or because your filesystem isn't handling dates right, or any number of reasons. Perhaps in editing your .muttrc you accidentally changed your $editor setting? ~Kyle - -- I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work. -- Thomas Edison -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Thank you for using encryption! iD8DBQFHBUTpBkIOoMqOI14RAo5CAKC8w31LPLhOWYHJCreTQq8jX21fKwCcCpgO 6a5SQB6lW8YOSaHEMcBkaM4= =R8oU -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Generate Reply / New Mail in new shell session
On 2007-10-04, David Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something along these lines might work. Untested. It's been years since I used xterm, so I'm not sure if the syntax below is correct for expressing what xterm should run. Might need to add sh -c and quoting, or somesuch. Maybe you need some more dressing, but perhaps this will get you started. If you want this only sometimes, you'll need to macro-fy the muttrc bits. $ cat external-reply #!/bin/sh DRAFT=$1 # hard-link our own copy of the draft so that mutt can remove original ln $DRAFT $DRAFT.tmp I don't think that will work. I think you'll need to copy it. The reason is that mutt overwrites its temporary files with zeros before unlinking them. Regards, Gary
Re: No outgoing mail
On 2007.10.04 14:54:17 +, Kyle Wheeler wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, October 4 at 11:31 AM, quoth Rem P Roberti: I had just finished modifying my .muttrc file to source my alias folder, and now every time that I try to send an email I get an error message stating: Aborted unmodified message. That message happens whenever your editor has not updated the timestamp on the temporary file containing your message. This could happen because you've done something silly like move/copy that temporary file elsewhere, or because your filesystem isn't handling dates right, or any number of reasons. Perhaps in editing your .muttrc you accidentally changed your $editor setting? ~Kyle Okay...newbie eats crow. I did change my editor setting in .muttrc, and there was a bigtime syntax error in the line. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Rem
Which spam filter do you use?
I've been using bogofilter ever since I first installed KDE/Kmail and the potentially hassle-free configuration of SpamAssassin led to constant crashes. I belive it has been solved by now, and in any case Kmail is ancient history, but I was wondering what experiences the list people have with various filters. From what I've read, bogo is quicker than the other contenders, but lets more spam through. While the speed was a concern in Kmail, since the filtering was done in the app itself, which meant that it was unresponsive for a while while the filtering was going on, that is not so much of a concern now, when that is taken care of by procmail. That leaves me with c. 10-15 spam mails a day that slip through (out of c. 150-200). So, should I switch? I'm quite happy with bogo, especially with the current setup with some macros I borrowed from an article in linux journal (I think it was), but I would very much like to hear what your experiences are in this respect. Eyolf -- Unceasing warfare gives rise to its own social conditions which have been similar in all epochs. People enter a permanent state of alertness to ward off attacks. You seethe absolute rule of the autocrat. All new things become dangerous frontier districts-new planets, new economic areas to exploit, new ideas or new devices, visitors-everything suspect. Feudalism takes firm hold, sometimes disguised as a politbureau or similar structure, but always present. Hereditary succession follows the lines of power. The blood of the powerful dominates. The vice regents of heaven or their equivalent apportion the wealth. And their know they must control inheritance or slowly let the power melt away. Now, do you understand Leto's Peace? -- The Stolen Journals
access mail on a remote pop server
I am trying to access mail on a remote pop server and it seems like a simple procedure: type: c pop://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ it should ask me for a password, instead it is giving me message: is not a mailbox I've tried issue command prior :set mbox_type=mbox still the same message. -- #Joseph GPG KeyID: ED0E1FB7
Re: Which spam filter do you use?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, October 5 at 12:23 AM, quoth Eyolf Østrem: So, should I switch? I'm quite happy with bogo If you're satisfied with your current spam prevention technique, there's absolutely no reason to switch. At best, you'll get fewer spams. If the spam level you currently receive is acceptable: count your blessings. For what it's worth, all the domains I administer have used spamassassin for several years, and the accuracy is simply stunning. ~Kyle - -- Of course it's the same old story. Truth usually is the same old story. -- Margaret Thatcher -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Thank you for using encryption! iD8DBQFHBZHMBkIOoMqOI14RAtUbAJ91DOTtzyh1sI8hagsTxF0Y5Y0eawCgwIrI yAw6/xg2FPtkzaN8yqiijxs= =nnJ7 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: access mail on a remote pop server
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, October 4 at 06:14 PM, quoth Joseph: I am trying to access mail on a remote pop server and it seems like a simple procedure: type: c pop://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ it should ask me for a password, instead it is giving me message: is not a mailbox Is your mutt compiled with pop3 support? It may not be. Also...I *think* the last time I had mutt do that, the URI was pop3://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/, but I'm not certain. ~Kyle - -- To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men. -- Abraham Lincoln -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Thank you for using encryption! iD8DBQFHBZJGBkIOoMqOI14RAvQzAKCLYk6surdCg2CmPHFLqRKG68Re7gCfSdvE KGTPFp1GDQM8BCBLqfBi078= =8e9m -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Reading /home/joseph/.maildir/inbox...Segmentation fault
After recompiling mutt with: pop and mbox support when I try to start mutt I get: Reading /home/joseph/.maildir/inbox...Segmentation fault Does anybody knows what it is? -- #Joseph
Mutt and Abook
Can someone please point me toward some info on how I can utilize abook from within Mutt. I would like to be able to both use the Abook entries, and add new addresses via Mutt. Rem
Re: Reading /home/joseph/.maildir/inbox...Segmentation fault
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, October 4 at 10:41 PM, quoth Joseph: After recompiling mutt with: pop and mbox support when I try to start mutt I get: Reading /home/joseph/.maildir/inbox...Segmentation fault Does anybody knows what it is? Not offhand, but if I had to guess, I'd say that it might be a problem with mutt's build system. Try doing a `make clean make` and see if that doesn't build a mutt that behaves. ~Kyle - -- Reason is itself a matter of faith. It is an act of faith to assert that our thoughts have any relation to reality at all. -- G. K. Chesterton -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Thank you for using encryption! iD8DBQFHBcYHBkIOoMqOI14RAmsLAJ9l7PvoPt/Y0BnZ6v/Ia2XErNUVzQCggeof trCAA3Y2pSyVUY00WLZd1ao= =eBpQ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Mutt and Abook
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, October 4 at 09:52 PM, quoth Rem P Roberti: Can someone please point me toward some info on how I can utilize abook from within Mutt. I would like to be able to both use the Abook entries, and add new addresses via Mutt. http://wiki.mutt.org/?MuttGuide/Aliases ~Kyle - -- Come to me, son of Jor-El. Kneel before Zod. Snootchie-bootchies. -- Jay -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Thank you for using encryption! iD8DBQFHBcYwBkIOoMqOI14RArx0AJ0Y5kdcomBFS+UB9RyxJ4n+NLYtKwCg1kyH nuKbTMZ4lMr+jUD/sq6ILsc= =tAFy -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Mutt and Abook
On 2007.10.05 00:05:52 +, Kyle Wheeler wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, October 4 at 09:52 PM, quoth Rem P Roberti: Can someone please point me toward some info on how I can utilize abook from within Mutt. I would like to be able to both use the Abook entries, and add new addresses via Mutt. http://wiki.mutt.org/?MuttGuide/Aliases ~Kyle Thank you! Rem
Re: Which spam filter do you use?
Hi,
Thus wrote Eyolf Østrem ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [07.10.05 06:54]:
I've been using bogofilter ever since I first installed KDE/Kmail and the
potentially hassle-free configuration of SpamAssassin led to constant
crashes. I belive it has been solved by now, and in any case Kmail is
ancient history, but I was wondering what experiences the list people
have with various filters.
At the moment I'm using bogofilter, razor, pyzor, dcc, spamassassin
and clamassassin and the following procmail rules:
-snip--
SPAM=$MAILDIR/.Junk/
VIRUS=$MAILDIR/.Virus/
DCCPROC=/usr/bin/dccproc
BOGOFILTER=/usr/bin/bogofilter
PYZOR=/usr/bin/pyzor
RAZOR=/usr/bin/razor-check
SPAMC=/usr/bin/spamc
CLAM=/usr/bin/clamassassin
:0 fw
| $BOGOFILTER -u -e -p
:0 e
{ EXITCODE=75 HOST }
:0:
* ^X-Bogosity:.(Yes|Spam)
$SPAM
# Razor
:0 Wc
| $RAZOR -conf=$HOME/.razor/razor-agent.conf
:0 Wa:
$SPAM
# Pyzor
:0 Wc
| $PYZOR check
:0 Wa:
$SPAM
# DCC
:0 fw
| $DCCPROC -ERw whiteclnt -ccmn,10
:0 e:
$SPAM
# Spamassassin
:0 fw: $PMDIR/spamassassin.db
| $SPAMC
:0:
* ^X-Spam-Status: Yes
$SPAM
:0 fw: $PMDIR/clamassassin.db
| $CLAM
:0:
* ^X-Virus-Status: Yes
$VIRUS
-snip--
At the moment I don't get any spam/junk mail but sometimes some mails
from mailinglists (especially from the debian list) are in the junk folder.
But I also have to say that it realy takes some time till I get a mail.
From what I've read, bogo is quicker than the other contenders, but
lets more spam through. While the speed was a concern in Kmail, since
the filtering was done in the app itself, which meant that it was
unresponsive for a while while the filtering was going on, that is not
so much of a concern now, when that is taken care of by procmail. That
leaves me with c. 10-15 spam mails a day that slip through (out of c.
150-200).
So, should I switch? I'm quite happy with bogo, especially with the
current setup with some macros I borrowed from an article in linux
journal (I think it was), but I would very much like to hear what your
experiences are in this respect.
I also read from a scanner called crm114 in the linux magazine that
should be realy good, but never checked that.
Eyolf
Christian
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