Re: Bold text
On 2002.01.21, in <20020121164625.GB2845@neuromancer>, "giorgian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 12:35:15PM -0600, David Champion wrote: > > This message is in enriched text. Here's some text in boldfaced type. > > Here's italic. You can also do formatting -- you can > > everything works for me (mutt 1.3.25) but the italic (i saw it > underlined) and justified text (which was left justified)... Hmm. I'll have to try this out after I upgrade, but I suppose it's possible that it doesn't work for me for the same problem that RFC2047-encoded headers completely whack out my display, and multibyte characters sometimes spin the pager into an infinite loop from which only GDB can recover. (It appears that something has changed in the OS I'm running, and I don't have the savoir-faire to figure out what or why or how to fix it. If anyone reading this does, I'd still appreciate pointers on what to look for.) -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
Re: Bold text
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 12:35:15PM -0600, David Champion wrote: > This message is in enriched text. Here's some text in boldfaced type. > Here's italic. You can also do formatting -- you can everything works for me (mutt 1.3.25) but the italic (i saw it underlined) and justified text (which was left justified)... -- giorgian msg23458/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Bold text
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, Erika Pacholleck hath spake thusly: > [07.01.02 12:35 -0600] David Champion <-- : > > You could use enriched text. It's documented in RFC 1563: > > ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc1563.txt > > Hey great, thanks for the examples and especially the RFC number > (I never learn how to find the number out quickly - yes, I know > there is a list, but that one is really long :( ). > Good to know, although for shortness of messages I will stick > to simple methods. You need this site: http://www.rfc-editor.org/ Happy searching! :) P.S. your e-mail address appears to be bouncing... Says you don't exist. - -- Derek Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - I prefer mail encrypted with PGP/GPG! GnuPG Key ID: 0x81CFE75D Retrieve my public key at http://pgp.mit.edu Learn more about it at http://www.gnupg.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8Pi2TdjdlQoHP510RAsTSAJ0TLrIpJXJQvHDZAetB/cBvnkz1QwCfXVbO Ph7+r0chKW+1VXIyS+9V7Kg= =Zn4T -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Bold text
Alas! Erika Pacholleck spake thus: > (I never learn how to find the number out quickly - yes, I know > there is a list, but that one is really long :( ). Do a google search for something like "RFC database", and you should find a search engine for RFCs, which is very handy. In fact, the way things are going with Google, I wouldn't be surprised if they made their own RFC search :) -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- "Well, let's just say, 'If your VCR is still blinking 12:00, you don't want Linux.'" -- Bruce Perens, Debian's Fearless Leader msg22829/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Bold text
[07.01.02 12:35 -0600] David Champion <-- : > You could use enriched text. It's documented in RFC 1563: > ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc1563.txt > --- [snipped fine examples ] --- Hey great, thanks for the examples and especially the RFC number (I never learn how to find the number out quickly - yes, I know there is a list, but that one is really long :( ). Good to know, although for shortness of messages I will stick to simple methods. -- Erika Pacholleck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mutters: insert vowels of last name
Re: Bold text
[08.01.02 13:11 +0100] Nick Wilson <-- : > * Erika Pacholleck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020108 13:09]: > > is the * the same convention for *bold* as the _ is > > is for _underline_ ? > > > vote here: [x] yes [ ] no > I think David mentioned USENET conventions earlier in this post. He was not sure about that, so I thought maybe someone could quickly verify. But I will just treat it as true now. -- Erika Pacholleck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mutters: insert vowels of last name
Re: Bold text
* Erika Pacholleck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020108 13:09]: > [07.01.02 10:21 -0500] David T-G <-- : > > ...and then Nick Wilson said... > > % > > % I'll stick with using *bold* like this. It works for me :) > > > > I certainly agree :-) > > I like to add a related question about "conventions": > is the * the same convention for *bold* as the _ is > is for _underline_ ? > vote here: [x] yes [ ] no I think David mentioned USENET conventions earlier in this post. -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com msg22576/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Bold text
[07.01.02 10:21 -0500] David T-G <-- : > ...and then Nick Wilson said... > % > % I'll stick with using *bold* like this. It works for me :) > > I certainly agree :-) I like to add a related question about "conventions": is the * the same convention for *bold* as the _ is is for _underline_ ? vote here: [ ] yes [ ] no -- Erika Pacholleck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mutters: insert vowels of last name
Re: Bold text
* Samuel Padgett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020108 08:39]: > Nick Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I use vim as my editor and can't work out how to make portions of my > > text bold? I know many of you use vim so I hope someone can help. > > Some MUAs will display "a^Ha" (aa) as a bold "a". Is this what > you mean? I think I'm just confused, I think now I'll settle with *bold* Cheers -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com msg22561/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Bold text
Nick Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I use vim as my editor and can't work out how to make portions of my > text bold? I know many of you use vim so I hope someone can help. Some MUAs will display "a^Ha" (aa) as a bold "a". Is this what you mean? Sam
Re: Bold text
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, David Champion hath spake thusly: > This message is in enriched text. Here's some text in boldfaced type. > Here's italic. You can also do formatting -- you can These worked for me (using mutt 1.3.22.1) > > center text, and > > right-justify it, and As did these... > > align it evenly to both sides, although the line breaks get a little > quirky. I suppose you need enough text to fill out at least two whole > display lines to make this example work to any visible effect. Here's a > little more noise, just to take up extra space for demonstration > purposes. But this did not. > > You can also do color: red text, and green text, and blue text -- all > eight ANSI text colors are supported in mutt, at least. And this didn't either. They all showed up as blue text on a black background. Is this a settings issue, or do I just need to update? Thanks - -- Derek Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - I prefer mail encrypted with PGP/GPG! GnuPG Key ID: 0x81CFE75D Retrieve my public key at http://pgp.mit.edu Learn more about it at http://www.gnupg.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8Oe8PdjdlQoHP510RAhpsAKCXBM79U4p0Qeg5KoaLybWsFtBkqQCfYV1A ZOzx005TNTv1kXoGDrgaREw= =Ys2r -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Bold text
On 2002.01.07, in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Nick Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes I mean /like/ HTML, but *not* HTML as I dump anything of nature > also. I guess my understanding of real ASCII text is mistaken. I thought > that because I saw bold text in mails sent to me (back when I was > exclusively using Eudora under Win) that I could do the same. I guess > they were some kind of HTML thing. You could use enriched text. It's documented in RFC 1563: ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc1563.txt It's HTML-like, without being HTML, and it could be what you've seen in Eudora. Eudora used to send enriched text when you applied styles, I think. Now it just sends HTML (badly), but it still can interpret enriched text (badly). This message is in enriched text. Here's some text in boldfaced type. Here's italic. You can also do formatting -- you can center text, and right-justify it, and align it evenly to both sides, although the line breaks get a little quirky. I suppose you need enough text to fill out at least two whole display lines to make this example work to any visible effect. Here's a little more noise, just to take up extra space for demonstration purposes. You can also do color: red text, and green text, and blue text -- all eight ANSI text colors are supported in mutt, at least. (Actually, I'm not entirely sure that mutt's enriched handler is handling this correctly. Colors and bold/italics work, but only with an external pager, not with the builtin pager. Left, center, and right alignments work in either, but full-flush alignment does not. Thomas, this seems like a bug, but this is the first time I've played with enriched text, and I could be off base. I'm using 1.3.24 at the moment.) Watch what happens if you resize your viewing window and re-display the message! All enriched text is flowed by default. I'm not sure what the best way to *create* enriched text is, though. Presumably you'd want some kind of graphicky editor, but I don't know squat about those. -- -D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] NSIT University of Chicago
Re: Bold text
Nick -- ...and then Nick Wilson said... % % * David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020107 15:15]: % > % > ...and then Nick Wilson said... % > % % > % I use vim as my editor and can't work out how to make portions of my % > % text bold? I know many of you use vim so I hope someone can help. ... % > To get the character to print twice on the screen and thus look bolder, % > you could embed backspaces like t^Hth^Hhi^His^Hs (which comes out looking % > like tthhiiss). Note that that will mess up your line wrap length % > because of all of the extra characters embedded therein... ... % % Thanks. % Yes I mean /like/ HTML, but *not* HTML as I dump anything of nature Good deal. % also. I guess my understanding of real ASCII text is mistaken. I thought Perhaps so. I would class "real ASCII" as "just ASCII". Of course, everything I typed is ASCII because I don't use EBCDIC in my editor :-) What you might mean is something like "a simple ASCII reader". % that because I saw bold text in mails sent to me (back when I was % exclusively using Eudora under Win) that I could do the same. I guess % they were some kind of HTML thing. Not necessarily; see my example still above. % % I'll stick with using *bold* like this. It works for me :) I certainly agree :-) % % Thanks again. No problem! % % -- % % Nick Wilson % % Tel: +45 3325 0688 % Fax: +45 3325 0677 % Web: www.explodingnet.com :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg22459/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Bold text
* David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020107 15:15]: > Nick -- > > ...and then Nick Wilson said... > % > % Hi folks > > Hello! > > > % Firstly, yes, I know this is a trivial issue! > > Well, it depends on your definition of trivial... If you mean "easy", it > may not be; if you mean "worthless", then it might be :-) > > > % I use vim as my editor and can't work out how to make portions of my > % text bold? I know many of you use vim so I hope someone can help. > > What do you mean by bold? Do you mean in the resultant mail message? Do > you mean in a particular display? Do you mean in vim itself? Do you > mean in the interpretation of the reader? > > I believe the USENET conventions for highlightin under ASCII are > _underline_ and *bold* and /italics/ (but I'm not sure); that would > suffice for the reader's view. > > To get the character to print twice on the screen and thus look bolder, > you could embed backspaces like t^Hth^Hhi^His^Hs (which comes out looking > like tthhiiss). Note that that will mess up your line wrap length > because of all of the extra characters embedded therein... > > If, of course, you're composing *shudder* HTML email, you have the bold > tag <b> available. But lots of folks will dump your mail > into the trashcan immediately upon receipt :-) > > Other ideas are certainly possiblimplementations; if these don't answer > your question, give us more detail. Thanks. Yes I mean /like/ HTML, but *not* HTML as I dump anything of nature also. I guess my understanding of real ASCII text is mistaken. I thought that because I saw bold text in mails sent to me (back when I was exclusively using Eudora under Win) that I could do the same. I guess they were some kind of HTML thing. I'll stick with using *bold* like this. It works for me :) Thanks again. -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com msg22455/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Bold text
Nick -- ...and then Nick Wilson said... % % Hi folks Hello! % Firstly, yes, I know this is a trivial issue! Well, it depends on your definition of trivial... If you mean "easy", it may not be; if you mean "worthless", then it might be :-) % I use vim as my editor and can't work out how to make portions of my % text bold? I know many of you use vim so I hope someone can help. What do you mean by bold? Do you mean in the resultant mail message? Do you mean in a particular display? Do you mean in vim itself? Do you mean in the interpretation of the reader? I believe the USENET conventions for highlightin under ASCII are _underline_ and *bold* and /italics/ (but I'm not sure); that would suffice for the reader's view. To get the character to print twice on the screen and thus look bolder, you could embed backspaces like t^Hth^Hhi^His^Hs (which comes out looking like tthhiiss). Note that that will mess up your line wrap length because of all of the extra characters embedded therein... If, of course, you're composing *shudder* HTML email, you have the bold tag available. But lots of folks will dump your mail into the trashcan immediately upon receipt :-) Other ideas are certainly possiblimplementations; if these don't answer your question, give us more detail. % % Cheers % -- % % Nick Wilson % % Tel: +45 3325 0688 % Fax: +45 3325 0677 % Web: www.explodingnet.com HTH & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg22450/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Hi folks Firstly, yes, I know this is a trivial issue! I use vim as my editor and can't work out how to make portions of my text bold? I know many of you use vim so I hope someone can help. Cheers -- Nick Wilson Tel:+45 3325 0688 Fax:+45 3325 0677 Web:www.explodingnet.com msg22437/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
