Re: Generate Reply / New Mail in new shell session
On 05.10.2007 (10:05), Christian Ebert wrote: * Eyolf Østrem on Friday, October 05, 2007 at 01:07:39 +0200 a lilyponder ;) Yep! The following works in a dirty way -- It didn't quite work for me, still. I may play around with different flags and such, but in the end, it isn't really *that* important to me. But thanks for the script anyway. Eyolf -- The faster we go, the rounder we get. -- The Grateful Dead
Re: Generate Reply / New Mail in new shell session
* Eyolf Østrem on Saturday, October 06, 2007 at 14:39:41 +0200 It didn't quite work for me, still. I may play around with different flags and such, but in the end, it isn't really *that* important to me. But thanks for the script anyway. I was more interested in Screen, but this works here for xterm: #!/bin/sh DRAFT=$1 cp $DRAFT $DRAFT.tmp ( xterm -e exec mutt -H \$DRAFT.tmp\ sleep 1 rm -f $DRAFT.tmp ) exit 0 c -- strangely, i became more bookish and my home and study meant more to me as i considered the circumstances of my death --Iggy Pop, No Shit
Re: Generate Reply / New Mail in new shell session
* Eyolf Østrem on Friday, October 05, 2007 at 01:07:39 +0200 a lilyponder ;) On 04.10.2007 (13:13), Gary Johnson wrote: On 2007-10-04, David Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $ cat external-reply #!/bin/sh DRAFT=$1 # hard-link our own copy of the draft so that mutt can remove original ln $DRAFT $DRAFT.tmp I don't think that will work. I think you'll need to copy it. The reason is that mutt overwrites its temporary files with zeros before unlinking them. I can confirm that it doesn't work. The new xterm flashes over the screen for a splitsecond, but then it's gone, and the original mutt window behaves as if the mail has been written, ready to be sent. The following works in a dirty way -- you are prompted for address and subject both in the old and new instances of Mutt, but this should be solvable by macro. I made it for GNU screen, but probably something similar works for xterm as well. One needs sleep because Mutt is too fast in unlinking the tmp file (work around sleep with touch doesn't seem to work here). I also believe that you have to stick with $DRAFT.tmp vs $DRAFT. #!/bin/sh #[ -n $STY ] || exit 1 # test whether we are in running Screen DRAFT=$1 cp $DRAFT $DRAFT.tmp ( screen -X screen mutt -H $DRAFT.tmp ### works # xterm -e exec mutt -H $DRAFT.tmp ### untested sleep 1 rm -f $DRAFT.tmp ) exit 0 c -- Python Mutt utilities http://www.blacktrash.org/hg/muttils/
Re: Generate Reply / New Mail in new shell session
On 2007-10-05, Christian Ebert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Eyolf Østrem on Friday, October 05, 2007 at 01:07:39 +0200 a lilyponder ;) On 04.10.2007 (13:13), Gary Johnson wrote: On 2007-10-04, David Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $ cat external-reply #!/bin/sh DRAFT=$1 # hard-link our own copy of the draft so that mutt can remove original ln $DRAFT $DRAFT.tmp I don't think that will work. I think you'll need to copy it. The reason is that mutt overwrites its temporary files with zeros before unlinking them. I can confirm that it doesn't work. The new xterm flashes over the screen for a splitsecond, but then it's gone, and the original mutt window behaves as if the mail has been written, ready to be sent. The following works in a dirty way -- you are prompted for address and subject both in the old and new instances of Mutt, but this should be solvable by macro. I made it for GNU screen, but probably something similar works for xterm as well. One needs sleep because Mutt is too fast in unlinking the tmp file (work around sleep with touch doesn't seem to work here). If the script doesn't return to the first mutt until the cp operation is done, and if the second mutt is the only user of $DRAFT.tmp, and if the second mutt exits before the rm is executed, why do you need the sleep? I also believe that you have to stick with $DRAFT.tmp vs $DRAFT. #!/bin/sh #[ -n $STY ] || exit 1 # test whether we are in running Screen DRAFT=$1 cp $DRAFT $DRAFT.tmp ( screen -X screen mutt -H $DRAFT.tmp ### works # xterm -e exec mutt -H $DRAFT.tmp ### untested sleep 1 rm -f $DRAFT.tmp ) exit 0 Regards, Gary
Re: Generate Reply / New Mail in new shell session
* Gary Johnson on Friday, October 05, 2007 at 07:40:03 -0700 On 2007-10-05, Christian Ebert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The following works in a dirty way -- you are prompted for address and subject both in the old and new instances of Mutt, but this should be solvable by macro. I made it for GNU screen, but probably something similar works for xterm as well. One needs sleep because Mutt is too fast in unlinking the tmp file (work around sleep with touch doesn't seem to work here). If the script doesn't return to the first mutt until the cp operation is done, and if the second mutt is the only user of $DRAFT.tmp, and if the second mutt exits before the rm is executed, why do you need the sleep? Trial and error ;) Of course I first tried sleepless, but then I got the Aborted unmodified message. error. #!/bin/sh #[ -n $STY ] || exit 1 # test whether we are in running Screen DRAFT=$1 cp $DRAFT $DRAFT.tmp ( screen -X screen mutt -H $DRAFT.tmp ### works # xterm -e exec mutt -H $DRAFT.tmp ### untested sleep 1 rm -f $DRAFT.tmp ) exit 0 Speculation: mutt -H returns success somewhere right before it calls the editor on $DRAFT.tmp. Probably there are better ways to do this. For Screen an interesting alternative would be to open a split region. c -- Python Mutt utilities http://www.blacktrash.org/hg/muttils/
Re: Generate Reply / New Mail in new shell session
On 03.10.2007 (21:57), Joseph wrote: It would be nice if it was possible to start a New Email or Replies in a new shell session and close it automatically when a mail is sent, without, going through postpone. Is it possible? Sometimes I have to look up/collect some information from several older emails so this kind of functionality would really be handy. I was missing that functionality too. I solved it the other way around: open a new instance of mutt. It's a one-keypress thing (I have a desktop keyboard shortcut win-m set up to run xterm -e mutt), and the effect is, I believe, the same as what you describe. One thing I can't do that way is to tag several messages and add them to what I'm replying to, but how often do I do that...? Eyolf -- Life does not begin at the moment of conception or the moment of birth. It begins when the kids leave home and the dog dies.
Re: Generate Reply / New Mail in new shell session
It would be nice if it was possible to start a New Email or Replies in a new shell session and close it automatically when a mail is sent, without, going through postpone. I was missing that functionality too. I solved it the other way around: open a new instance of mutt. When necessary, I too have resorted to this workaround. However, I'd like to put in another vote for the actual functionality requested. Opening another Mutt is a bit less convenient if you're using something like IMAP to get to your messages, and particularly so if IMAP isn't supporting simultaneous readers on the same mailbox. -Chip -- Chip Killian http://www.cs.ucsd.edu/~ckillian/ UCSD Graduate Student, Computer Science
Re: Generate Reply / New Mail in new shell session
It would be nice if it was possible to start a New Email or Replies in a new shell session and close it automatically when a mail is sent, without, going through postpone. Is it possible? Check the archives -- possibly a few years back. People have posted examples of how to do this using an external script and a macro. Basically you generate a draft file as normally, but set your editor to an external script that launches a new mutt instance in a new window using that draft file as a template. Then restore $editor and move on. Should be even easier now, with my_ variables. -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago Polka music needs to prevail. John Ziobrowski, Polka America Corporation
Re: Generate Reply / New Mail in new shell session
On 10/04/07 10:59, David Champion wrote: It would be nice if it was possible to start a New Email or Replies in a new shell session and close it automatically when a mail is sent, without, going through postpone. Is it possible? Check the archives -- possibly a few years back. People have posted examples of how to do this using an external script and a macro. Basically you generate a draft file as normally, but set your editor to an external script that launches a new mutt instance in a new window using that draft file as a template. Then restore $editor and move on. Should be even easier now, with my_ variables. All I was able to find is a solution with Ctrl-z putting it in a background and starting new session. That is not really a solution. I'm sure somebody has similar macro worked out, it is just a mutter of finding it :-/ -- #Joseph GPG KeyID: ED0E1FB7
Re: Generate Reply / New Mail in new shell session
All I was able to find is a solution with Ctrl-z putting it in a background and starting new session. That is not really a solution. Agreed. That's not it. I'm sure somebody has similar macro worked out, it is just a mutter of finding it :-/ Something along these lines might work. Untested. It's been years since I used xterm, so I'm not sure if the syntax below is correct for expressing what xterm should run. Might need to add sh -c and quoting, or somesuch. Maybe you need some more dressing, but perhaps this will get you started. If you want this only sometimes, you'll need to macro-fy the muttrc bits. $ cat external-reply #!/bin/sh DRAFT=$1 # hard-link our own copy of the draft so that mutt can remove original ln $DRAFT $DRAFT.tmp ( ## execute this in a bkgrounded subshell, ## allowing the original shell to exit xterm -e exec mutt -H '$DRAFT' rm -f $DRAFT ) exit 0 .muttrc: set editor=external-reply -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago Polka music needs to prevail. John Ziobrowski, Polka America Corporation
Re: Generate Reply / New Mail in new shell session
On 2007-10-04, David Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something along these lines might work. Untested. It's been years since I used xterm, so I'm not sure if the syntax below is correct for expressing what xterm should run. Might need to add sh -c and quoting, or somesuch. Maybe you need some more dressing, but perhaps this will get you started. If you want this only sometimes, you'll need to macro-fy the muttrc bits. $ cat external-reply #!/bin/sh DRAFT=$1 # hard-link our own copy of the draft so that mutt can remove original ln $DRAFT $DRAFT.tmp I don't think that will work. I think you'll need to copy it. The reason is that mutt overwrites its temporary files with zeros before unlinking them. Regards, Gary
Generate Reply / New Mail in new shell session
It would be nice if it was possible to start a New Email or Replies in a new shell session and close it automatically when a mail is sent, without, going through postpone. Is it possible? Sometimes I have to look up/collect some information from several older emails so this kind of functionality would really be handy. -- #Joseph GPG KeyID: ED0E1FB7
