Re: SMTP Authorization
On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 16:03:05 -0600 David Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2002.02.23, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jerry Van Brimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . pop_authenticate: Using any available method. AUTH CRAM-MD5 + PDMyNzU3LjEwMjAyMjMxMjUzMzRAaXNwd2VzdGVtYWlsLmFjZXdlYi5uZXQ+ mutt_sasl_cb_authname: getting authname for pop3.ispwest.com:110 mutt_sasl_cb_pass: getting password for [EMAIL PROTECTED]@pop3.ispwest.com:110 amVycnl2YkBpc3B3ZXN0LmNvbSAxNGI0MjNiMmQ5ODQyNGNjYjY2OTNhZDM2MWM0MTBlMg== +OK jerryvb's mailbox has 665 message(s) (2526032 octets) SASL authentication failed. APOP [EMAIL PROTECTED] c6157f678c257df79923897ddf14ab04 -ERR unknown or invalid command in this state [APOP] APOP authentication failed. USER [EMAIL PROTECTED] -ERR unknown or invalid command in this state [USER] Login failed. USER: unknown or invalid command in this state [USER] This seems like a disagreement between what happens and what mutt expects to happen. You're authenticating using CRAM-MD5, and the POP server is validating the authentication. Then mutt thinks that is rejected it, so it tries other authentications, which the server does reject, since it's not expecting an authentication anymore. In other words, this looks like a mutt bug. You might try setting $pop_authenticators to work around this. The goal would be not to try authenticating with MD5 -- for example: set pop_authenticators=apop:user I finally got around to trying this. IT WORKED! THANK YOU! At least now I can download all of my mail with Mutt. Thanks -- -D. [EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago -- Rev. 1:7 ; Registered Linux User #153217
Re: SMTP Authorization
[25.02.02 15:39 +0100] Louis-David Mitterrand -- : This small-specialized-tools-are-better-than-monolithic-apps argument keeps coming back like a mantra. It's so tired now as to seem almost pre-recorded. (Where do you guys get that propaganda anyway?) This kind of propaganda is unwillingly spread by *all* those products which try to put all-in-one. The more it is in, the more you loose if a single component does not work. The keyword with mutt is integration: imap and pop are integrated with mutt becauses it makes sense to _browse_ remote imap or pop folders (yes mutt can do that with pop) and save stuff to remote imap folders (try that with fetchmail). This is a very personal statement. For myself it is economical nonsense to waste a lot of money for online browsing if I can save the short download on my free disk space (try paying your bill from an empty bank account). -- Erika Pacholleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] mutters: insert vowels of last name
Re: SMTP Authorization
On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 07:43:58PM +0100, Erika Pacholleck wrote: [25.02.02 15:39 +0100] Louis-David Mitterrand -- : This small-specialized-tools-are-better-than-monolithic-apps argument keeps coming back like a mantra. It's so tired now as to seem almost pre-recorded. (Where do you guys get that propaganda anyway?) This kind of propaganda is unwillingly spread by *all* those products which try to put all-in-one. The more it is in, the more you loose if a single component does not work. Oh? Will you fare any better if a _separately_ misonfigured procmail, fetchmail or postfix starts eating your mail _separately_? Guess what, if one, only one, of your dear small components start loosing mail the next small component will never see it anyway ;-) The keyword with mutt is integration: imap and pop are integrated with mutt becauses it makes sense to _browse_ remote imap or pop folders (yes mutt can do that with pop) and save stuff to remote imap folders (try that with fetchmail). This is a very personal statement. For myself it is economical nonsense to waste a lot of money for online browsing if I can save the short download on my free disk space (try paying your bill from an empty bank account). It makes a lot of sense to _leave_ your mail on a server you trust and that has a real backup policy. My mail archive is too valuable to keep on a workstation, be it a laptop or a PeeCee. -- PHEDRE: C'est moi qui sur ce fils chaste et respectueux Osai jeter un oeil profane, incestueux. (Phèdre, J-B Racine, acte 5, scène 7)
Re: SMTP Authorization
[26.02.02 12:11 +0100] Louis-David Mitterrand -- : On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 07:43:58PM +0100, Erika Pacholleck wrote: [25.02.02 15:39 +0100] Louis-David Mitterrand -- : This small-specialized-tools-are-better-than-monolithic-apps argument keeps coming back like a mantra. It's so tired now as to seem almost pre-recorded. (Where do you guys get that propaganda anyway?) This kind of propaganda is unwillingly spread by *all* those products which try to put all-in-one. The more it is in, the more you loose if a single component does not work. Oh? Will you fare any better if a _separately_ misonfigured procmail, fetchmail or postfix starts eating your mail _separately_? Guess what, if one, only one, of your dear small components start loosing mail the next small component will never see it anyway ;-) I am confident I would be able to misconfigure any of those one-in-all so that they loose your mail, too. But that's not what I ment. If your one-in-all-idiot-secure-configurable application hits only one bad block, you are lost. I just get ppp, fetchmail and vim running and that's it. The keyword with mutt is integration: imap and pop are integrated with mutt becauses it makes sense to _browse_ remote imap or pop folders (yes mutt can do that with pop) and save stuff to remote imap folders (try that with fetchmail). This is a very personal statement. For myself it is economical nonsense to waste a lot of money for online browsing if I can save the short download on my free disk space (try paying your bill from an empty bank account). It makes a lot of sense to _leave_ your mail on a server you trust and that has a real backup policy. My mail archive is too valuable to keep on a workstation, be it a laptop or a PeeCee. The point is the *remote* which for me as a private person with only a standalone machine and modem dialup is my ISP. This means, if I leave all my mail there, during browsing and reading I am online - the whole time, and this costs me a damned lot of money. So why the hell should I do it. Download is just a few minutes. And, generally, I only trust my own machine. Valuable data don't belong onto the machine you trust but the one you control (that's why). -- Erika Pacholleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] mutters: insert vowels of last name
Re: SMTP Authorization
I've been following this thread, and I thought I sent a message in, but apparently it never made it. On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Jerry Van Brimmer wrote: Newbie to Mutt here. I'm just getting started, and I'm trying to get a working rc file set up. I think I have all the basics except that my ISP requires me to login with username and password to read my mail. I can't get Mutt to login. Here's a copy of my POP section: # POP # set pop_user = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Comment this entry out. set pop_pass = password Comment this one out as well. set pop_delete = no set pop_host = pop3.ispwest.com This line needs to be modified as follows: set pop_host = jerryvb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It's the same format that I have mine set to and it works just fine, at least it did, till I started using fetchmail to get my mail. #set pop_port = 110 #set pop_last = no Every time I try to read my mail Mutt says that login failed: Login failed. USER: unknown or invalid command in this state [USER] What do I have to set to get this to work? Thanks You're welcome. -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence msg24811/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SMTP Authorization
On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Knute wrote: I've been following this thread, and I thought I sent a message in, but apparently it never made it. On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Jerry Van Brimmer wrote: Newbie to Mutt here. I'm just getting started, and I'm trying to get a working rc file set up. I think I have all the basics except that my ISP requires me to login with username and password to read my mail. I can't get Mutt to login. Here's a copy of my POP section: set pop_host = pop3.ispwest.com This line needs to be modified as follows: set pop_host = jerryvb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] That should be @pop3.ispwest.com! Sorry need to proofread before I send again! msg24812/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SMTP Authorization
On Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 08:36:49PM -0500, Michael P. Soulier wrote: On 23/02/02 Jerry Van Brimmer did speaketh: Well, I thought Mutt was a terminal based email client that could as much or more than other email clients. So, I was hoping that I could just download all messages into my mailbox and the headers would be displayed in the index, sort of just like all others, i.e. Sylpheed. I thought Mutt was a downloader/reader all in one? Am I wrong? Mutt follows the Unix philosophy of doing one thing, and doing it well. My current setup is Mutt for reading/composing email, fetchmail to download, procmail to sort, exim to send. In this way, I can swap any component that I like and I don't lose my other specialists. Far superior to a monolithic application that tries to do it all, and does it badly. This small-specialized-tools-are-better-than-monolithic-apps argument keeps coming back like a mantra. It's so tired now as to seem almost pre-recorded. (Where do you guys get that propaganda anyway?) The keyword with mutt is integration: imap and pop are integrated with mutt becauses it makes sense to _browse_ remote imap or pop folders (yes mutt can do that with pop) and save stuff to remote imap folders (try that with fetchmail). Real unix purists use uucp to download mail anyway, not fetchmail. -- PHEDRE: Non, je ne puis souffrir un bonheur qui m'outrage, OEnone. Prends pitié de ma jalouse rage. (Phèdre, J-B Racine, acte 4, scène 6)
Re: SMTP Authorization
On 2002.02.23, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jerry Van Brimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . pop_authenticate: Using any available method. AUTH CRAM-MD5 + PDMyNzU3LjEwMjAyMjMxMjUzMzRAaXNwd2VzdGVtYWlsLmFjZXdlYi5uZXQ+ mutt_sasl_cb_authname: getting authname for pop3.ispwest.com:110 mutt_sasl_cb_pass: getting password for [EMAIL PROTECTED]@pop3.ispwest.com:110 amVycnl2YkBpc3B3ZXN0LmNvbSAxNGI0MjNiMmQ5ODQyNGNjYjY2OTNhZDM2MWM0MTBlMg== +OK jerryvb's mailbox has 665 message(s) (2526032 octets) SASL authentication failed. APOP [EMAIL PROTECTED] c6157f678c257df79923897ddf14ab04 -ERR unknown or invalid command in this state [APOP] APOP authentication failed. USER [EMAIL PROTECTED] -ERR unknown or invalid command in this state [USER] Login failed. USER: unknown or invalid command in this state [USER] This seems like a disagreement between what happens and what mutt expects to happen. You're authenticating using CRAM-MD5, and the POP server is validating the authentication. Then mutt thinks that is rejected it, so it tries other authentications, which the server does reject, since it's not expecting an authentication anymore. In other words, this looks like a mutt bug. You might try setting $pop_authenticators to work around this. The goal would be not to try authenticating with MD5 -- for example: set pop_authenticators=apop:user -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
Re: SMTP Authorization
On 2002.02.25, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In other words, this looks like a mutt bug. You might try setting $pop_authenticators to work around this. The goal would be not to try authenticating with MD5 -- for example: set pop_authenticators=apop:user Oops, I mean that you want not to authenticate using SASL, so you could try this: set pop_authenticators=digest-md5:apop:user -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
Re: SMTP Authorization
On Fri Feb 22, 2002 at 11:54:38PM -0800, Jerry Van Brimmer wrote: [...snip...] # POP # set pop_user = [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...snip...] Every time I try to read my mail Mutt says that login failed: Login failed. USER: unknown or invalid command in this state [USER] What do I have to set to get this to work? The 'USER: unknown' bit makes me think you should try just: set pop_user = jerryvb Otherwise the POP-server thinks you're trying to log in as [EMAIL PROTECTED]@pop3.ispwest.com. Mind you, I'm just guessing here... Anyway, hope this helps. -- Martin Karlsson | I prefer mail encrypted with PGP/GPG! keyid fingerprint in headers visit http://www.gnupg.org for more info msg24710/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SMTP Authorization
On Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 12:27:15PM +0100, Martin Karlsson wrote: The 'USER: unknown' bit makes me think you should try just: set pop_user = jerryvb Otherwise the POP-server thinks you're trying to log in as [EMAIL PROTECTED]@pop3.ispwest.com. I don't think that's the problem. I tried telneting to pop3.ispwest.com 110 and entering that invalid username: $ telnet pop3.ispwest.com 110 Trying 216.52.245.18... Connected to pop3.ispwest.com. Escape character is '^]'. +OK VopMail POP3 Server 5.2.203.0 Ready [EMAIL PROTECTED] USER [EMAIL PROTECTED]@pop3.ispwest.com +OK [EMAIL PROTECTED]@pop3.ispwest.com is welcome here Doing that does not cause the USER: unknown or invalid command in this state error message. I'm guessing that 'mutt' is entering some extraneous commands before giving the USER command. Look at this: $ telnet pop3.ispwest.com 110 Trying 216.52.245.18... Connected to pop3.ispwest.com. Escape character is '^]'. +OK VopMail POP3 Server 5.2.203.0 Ready [EMAIL PROTECTED] USER jerryvb +OK jerryvb is welcome here USER jerryvb -ERR unknown or invalid command in this state [USER] That tells me that the unknown or invalid command in this state error message happens when mutt enters the USER command when the server is not expecting it.
Re: SMTP Authorization
On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 12:27:15 +0100 Martin Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri Feb 22, 2002 at 11:54:38PM -0800, Jerry Van Brimmer wrote: [...snip...] # POP # set pop_user = [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...snip...] Every time I try to read my mail Mutt says that login failed: Login failed. USER: unknown or invalid command in this state [USER] What do I have to set to get this to work? The 'USER: unknown' bit makes me think you should try just: set pop_user = jerryvb I tried this: set pop_user = jerryvb ; got the same error message. Am I using Mutt correctly? 1. I open up a xterm window, using KDE 2.2.2 on SuSE 7.3. 2. At command prompt I type mutt, press Enter. Mutt opens up, no errors. 3. I press Shift+G 4. Mutt goes through several attempts to login to my mail server before it finally stops and reports the error message above. I'm brand new to Mutt, so any advice is welcome. Thanks Otherwise the POP-server thinks you're trying to log in as [EMAIL PROTECTED]@pop3.ispwest.com. Mind you, I'm just guessing here... Anyway, hope this helps. -- Martin Karlsson | I prefer mail encrypted with PGP/GPG! keyid fingerprint in headers visit http://www.gnupg.org for more info
Re: SMTP Authorization
On Sat Feb 23, 2002 at 08:12:57AM -0800, Jerry Van Brimmer wrote: [...snip...] I'm brand new to Mutt, so any advice is welcome. Well, I don't use POP myself, so I haven't tried mutt's pop-functionalities. However, I'm sure others can be of assistance with this. If what you're trying to do is simply to fetch all messages from the POP-server to a local mailbox, though, I'd suggest using something like Fetchmail (http://tuxedo.org/~esr/fetchmail/), as indeed The Friendly Manual suggests. HTH -- Martin Karlsson | I prefer mail encrypted with PGP/GPG! keyid fingerprint in headers visit http://www.gnupg.org for more info msg24715/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SMTP Authorization
I came in late to this conversation, but.. Have you tried just to telnet to your pop server and see what happens? For example, here is a typical transcript from a telnet session to my pop server. telnet netmail.home.com 110 Trying 24.0.95.143... Connected to femail.sdc1.sfba.home.com. Escape character is '^]'. +OK InterMail POP3 server ready. USER myusername ---You type this line +OK please send PASS command PASS mypassword ---You type this line +OK myusername is welcome here LIST---Your command +OK 0 messages . HELP -ERR Invalid command Commands: DELE, LIST, LAST, NOOP, RETR, RSET, STAT, TOP, UIDL or QUIT Joel n Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 08:12:57AM -0800, Jerry Van Brimmer wrote: On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 12:27:15 +0100 Martin Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri Feb 22, 2002 at 11:54:38PM -0800, Jerry Van Brimmer wrote: [...snip...] # POP # set pop_user = [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...snip...] Every time I try to read my mail Mutt says that login failed: Login failed. USER: unknown or invalid command in this state [USER] What do I have to set to get this to work? The 'USER: unknown' bit makes me think you should try just: set pop_user = jerryvb I tried this: set pop_user = jerryvb ; got the same error message. Am I using Mutt correctly? 1. I open up a xterm window, using KDE 2.2.2 on SuSE 7.3. 2. At command prompt I type mutt, press Enter. Mutt opens up, no errors. 3. I press Shift+G 4. Mutt goes through several attempts to login to my mail server before it finally stops and reports the error message above. I'm brand new to Mutt, so any advice is welcome. Thanks Otherwise the POP-server thinks you're trying to log in as [EMAIL PROTECTED]@pop3.ispwest.com. Mind you, I'm just guessing here... Anyway, hope this helps. -- Martin Karlsson | I prefer mail encrypted with PGP/GPG! keyid fingerprint in headers visit http://www.gnupg.org for more info
Re: SMTP Authorization
Well, I thought Mutt was a terminal based email client that could as much or more than other email clients. So, I was hoping that I could just download all messages into my mailbox and the headers would be displayed in the index, sort of just like all others, i.e. Sylpheed. I thought Mutt was a downloader/reader all in one? Am I wrong? On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 17:21:24 +0100 Martin Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat Feb 23, 2002 at 08:12:57AM -0800, Jerry Van Brimmer wrote: [...snip...] I'm brand new to Mutt, so any advice is welcome. Well, I don't use POP myself, so I haven't tried mutt's pop-functionalities. However, I'm sure others can be of assistance with this. If what you're trying to do is simply to fetch all messages from the POP-server to a local mailbox, though, I'd suggest using something like Fetchmail (http://tuxedo.org/~esr/fetchmail/), as indeed The Friendly Manual suggests. HTH -- Martin Karlsson | I prefer mail encrypted with PGP/GPG! keyid fingerprint in headers visit http://www.gnupg.org for more info
Re: SMTP Authorization
On Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 05:21:24PM +0100, Martin Karlsson wrote: [snip] If what you're trying to do is simply to fetch all messages from the POP-server to a local mailbox, though, I'd suggest using something like Fetchmail (http://tuxedo.org/~esr/fetchmail/), as indeed The Friendly Manual suggests. i'm also a newbie.. and i went w/ getmail http://www.qcc.sk.ca/~charlesc/sof tware/getmail-2.0/ rather than fetchmail -- it's a very nice, very intuitive little python script that does the job. Ryan
Re: SMTP Authorization
On 2002.02.23, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jerry Van Brimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I thought Mutt was a terminal based email client that could as much or more than other email clients. So, I was hoping that I could just download all messages into my mailbox and the headers would be displayed in the index, sort of just like all others, i.e. Sylpheed. I thought Mutt was a downloader/reader all in one? Am I wrong? No, you're quite correct. Some people just prefer to use external programs to do the same thing. Since there's something apparently going wrong with mutt's built-in support, they're offering alternative approaches. -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
Re: SMTP Authorization
So what's wrong with my .muttrc file? How do I get this puppy working? # POP # set pop_user = [EMAIL PROTECTED] set pop_pass = password set pop_delete = no set pop_host = pop3.ispwest.com #set pop_port = 110 #set pop_last = no Thanks On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 14:29:03 -0600 David Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2002.02.23, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jerry Van Brimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I thought Mutt was a terminal based email client that could as much or more than other email clients. So, I was hoping that I could just download all messages into my mailbox and the headers would be displayed in the index, sort of just like all others, i.e. Sylpheed. I thought Mutt was a downloader/reader all in one? Am I wrong? No, you're quite correct. Some people just prefer to use external programs to do the same thing. Since there's something apparently going wrong with mutt's built-in support, they're offering alternative approaches. -- -D. [EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
Re: SMTP Authorization
OK, did that. Where do I find the output? On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 14:51:16 -0600 David Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2002.02.23, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jerry Van Brimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what's wrong with my .muttrc file? How do I get this puppy working? # POP # set pop_user = [EMAIL PROTECTED] set pop_pass = password set pop_delete = no set pop_host = pop3.ispwest.com #set pop_port = 110 #set pop_last = no Your .muttrc file looks fine. It sounds like something wrong in the interaction between mutt and your POP server, as someone posted previously. But I don't know what. Debugging output might help -- run mutt with the -d3 option. Make sure it doesn't contain your password, and send that to the list. -- -D. [EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
Re: SMTP Authorization
OK, I found the debug output file, here it is: Mutt 1.3.22.1i started at Sat Feb 23 13:04:12 2002 . Debugging at level 3. +OK VopMail POP3 Server 5.2.203.0 Ready [EMAIL PROTECTED] CAPA +OK Capability list follows TOP USER UIDL RESP-CODES EXPIRE 1 USER SASL LOGIN NTLM SCRAM-MD5 CRAM-MD5 . pop_authenticate: Using any available method. AUTH CRAM-MD5 + PDMyNzU3LjEwMjAyMjMxMjUzMzRAaXNwd2VzdGVtYWlsLmFjZXdlYi5uZXQ+ mutt_sasl_cb_authname: getting authname for pop3.ispwest.com:110 mutt_sasl_cb_pass: getting password for [EMAIL PROTECTED]@pop3.ispwest.com:110 amVycnl2YkBpc3B3ZXN0LmNvbSAxNGI0MjNiMmQ5ODQyNGNjYjY2OTNhZDM2MWM0MTBlMg== +OK jerryvb's mailbox has 665 message(s) (2526032 octets) SASL authentication failed. APOP [EMAIL PROTECTED] c6157f678c257df79923897ddf14ab04 -ERR unknown or invalid command in this state [APOP] APOP authentication failed. USER [EMAIL PROTECTED] -ERR unknown or invalid command in this state [USER] Login failed. USER: unknown or invalid command in this state [USER] On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 14:51:16 -0600 David Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2002.02.23, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jerry Van Brimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what's wrong with my .muttrc file? How do I get this puppy working? # POP # set pop_user = [EMAIL PROTECTED] set pop_pass = password set pop_delete = no set pop_host = pop3.ispwest.com #set pop_port = 110 #set pop_last = no Your .muttrc file looks fine. It sounds like something wrong in the interaction between mutt and your POP server, as someone posted previously. But I don't know what. Debugging output might help -- run mutt with the -d3 option. Make sure it doesn't contain your password, and send that to the list. -- -D. [EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
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Don't you want set pop_user=jerryvb? Joel On Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 12:44:33PM -0800, Jerry Van Brimmer wrote: So what's wrong with my .muttrc file? How do I get this puppy working? # POP # set pop_user = [EMAIL PROTECTED] set pop_pass = password set pop_delete = no set pop_host = pop3.ispwest.com #set pop_port = 110 #set pop_last = no Thanks On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 14:29:03 -0600 David Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2002.02.23, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jerry Van Brimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I thought Mutt was a terminal based email client that could as much or more than other email clients. So, I was hoping that I could just download all messages into my mailbox and the headers would be displayed in the index, sort of just like all others, i.e. Sylpheed. I thought Mutt was a downloader/reader all in one? Am I wrong? No, you're quite correct. Some people just prefer to use external programs to do the same thing. Since there's something apparently going wrong with mutt's built-in support, they're offering alternative approaches. -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
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On 23/02/02 Jerry Van Brimmer did speaketh: Well, I thought Mutt was a terminal based email client that could as much or more than other email clients. So, I was hoping that I could just download all messages into my mailbox and the headers would be displayed in the index, sort of just like all others, i.e. Sylpheed. I thought Mutt was a downloader/reader all in one? Am I wrong? Mutt follows the Unix philosophy of doing one thing, and doing it well. My current setup is Mutt for reading/composing email, fetchmail to download, procmail to sort, exim to send. In this way, I can swap any component that I like and I don't lose my other specialists. Far superior to a monolithic application that tries to do it all, and does it badly. Mike -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED], GnuPG pub key: 5BC8BE08 ...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount of nerd-like effort. -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to Unix msg24732/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SMTP Authorization
On Sat, 23 Feb 2002, Jerry Van Brimmer wrote: On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 12:27:15 +0100 Martin Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri Feb 22, 2002 at 11:54:38PM -0800, Jerry Van Brimmer wrote: [...snip...] # POP # set pop_user = [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...snip...] Every time I try to read my mail Mutt says that login failed: Login failed. USER: unknown or invalid command in this state [USER] What do I have to set to get this to work? The 'USER: unknown' bit makes me think you should try just: set pop_user = jerryvb I tried this: set pop_user = jerryvb ; got the same error message. Try this setting; set pop_host=pop://jerryvb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Comment out your pop_user and pop_password things, and go from there. This is what I used till I reset the fetch routine to use fetchmail. What this does is send your username and password to the domain right away, rather than waiting to be prompted for it. If it still doesn't work you may need to change the pop:// part of it to pops:// depends on if they are using a secure server or not. Am I using Mutt correctly? 1. I open up a xterm window, using KDE 2.2.2 on SuSE 7.3. 2. At command prompt I type mutt, press Enter. Mutt opens up, no errors. 3. I press Shift+G 4. Mutt goes through several attempts to login to my mail server before it finally stops and reports the error message above. I'm brand new to Mutt, so any advice is welcome. Cool. You can spend hours setting mutt up, then weeks tweaking that setup. I like it. Thanks Your welcome. -- Knute You live, You die. Enjoy the interval! -- Clarence msg24733/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
