Re: [MLO] Hide in To-Do: Do you ever use?

2011-09-24 Thread Trish Putnam
That is pretty much how I use it, too.  I capture ideas that I am not ready
to act on or tasks that I don't want to forget entirely but which shouldn't
have enough priority yet to appear on my to-do list - stuff that I do when I
have spare time.
 On Sep 23, 2011 10:01 PM, Denis Sheremetov denis.shereme...@gmail.com
wrote:

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[MLO] MLO android widget

2011-09-24 Thread seandm
for some reason the widget changes its filters whenever i enter the
program and exit. sometimes it will display a bunch of active tasks
and then sometimes it will only display 1. Is the definition of
Active mean only todays tasks?

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[MLO] Re: What and When to expect MLO4

2011-09-24 Thread Someguy
People experienced with a tool deserve the respect that their
intuitive desire for a new feature, like more text formatting in Notes
is correct.  True, not everyone is going to be good at expressing
their wishes in a well stated, rational fashion, and they can still
have insight on real improvements.  But it is also true that
experienced developers can see that a flag and a status are usually
the same thing conceptually, and what differentiates them is the usage
case.  The art and genius of development and customer management is to
be able to hear I want Flags, understand I want a status with a
visual cue so I can get meaning in a glance and deliver what the
customer wants without turning a masterpiece of programming into a
collage of features stapled together.  If the customer can express
their desires with some usage context, that is easier to do, and
everyone wins.

I think what bothers people about the suggestions along the lines of
rich text, calendar view, etc, is not that anyone questions that some
people would like and use it.  What bothers people - or maybe I should
speak for myself - what bothers me about these suggestions is that
they are at odds with what makes the tool so good.  The selling
features of MLO, to my way of thinking, is that it is fast, light,
stable, flexible and powerful.  What is currently wrong with it is
feature bloat.  We have flags and statuses and goals and priorities
and color coding and on and on and on.  Adding all these things hogde-
podge, I think, has reduced the ability to add more powerful and
elegant features.  All of these kinds of features could be handled by
custom fields and a robust skinning system for instance.  Then
features like this could be added quickly and easily by releasing
templates - and we would not have these religious wars - and the tool
could stay lightweight and simple and powerful for me, and full of
multiple thinly disguised status fields and visual cues for others.

The issue is really one of getting agreement and consensus on what MLO
is.  There are many suggestions for a web front end to cloud sync, for
instance.  A good feature, if MLO is a way to access a todo list over
the internet, but I thought it was a way to manage a very complex and
busy life in a very simple to use yet powerful way - so I see auto-
syncing and rapid entry and mobile platforms as key features.  A web
front end can be many things, but no web front end has ever been
called flexible or powerful .  Is a calendar view a good idea - it
is, if MLO is a dayplanner and organizer - but I see MLO as a
collector and organizer of tasks, which you then complete in meetings
and appointments arranged in a collaboration system like outlook or
lotus notes, so I view a calendar as feature bloat unless you are
going to add workgroup calendars and messenging to it as well -
otherwise it will just be a way to organize appointments with
yourself, which other people will just book over top of in your
collaboration tool.  Outlook sync, on the other hand - is a good
feature that could still use some work.  That is my usage model - a
task collector and organizer for a complex life in a large
organization.  i would imagine, if I were self employed, I would have
a different view.  Certainly the calendar view would be a lot more
compelling, for instance.  So what is MLO and who is it for?

Of course, here is the problem - I don't decide what MLO is or who the
target market is.  Andrey does, based on our input and his motivations
and opinions.  And once he does decide, there is nothing wrong with
him saying - that is not what MLO is trying to be, and therefore I
won't build that feature. To argue that most users want X. therefore
he should build it is silly.  That is how zunes get built. Most
users are mediocre, with mediocre ideas (by definition, in fact).
MLO needs to be excellent at something.

I say all this without intending to be disrespectful, buy the way.  I
know for instance, all the status fields and goals and so on are
required to make the auto-generated priority system work - and there
are clearly people for whom that feature is a centrally important
selling feature.  It just is not for me.  I am not right, and neither
are they.  Embrace my idea of custom fieds, and MLO can be a powerful
way to hierarchically manage almost any kind of small tibits of
information.  Embrace their ideas, and it is a lot more limited, but
it is a more powerful tasking engine.  What is MLO supposed to be?
That is the question.


On Sep 23, 6:27 pm, Trish Putnam trish.put...@gmail.com wrote:
 A couple of comments inline:

 On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Grant grant...@gmail.com wrote:
  Neal,
  Desktop, laptops and (separate) keyboards are not going to away,
  especially in the professional world.  There are just too many tasks
  that are better and quicker (time is money and money is king) done
  with a large screen, and well designed physical keyboard and mouse.
  For that matter, pen and paper have 

Re: [MLO] Re: Time to go

2011-09-24 Thread Luc Poitras
I vote for Mark!

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 2011-09-24 à 12:27, qhamel qha...@gmail.com a écrit :

 I agree Mark. If you go they win...just ban him. We would rather have
 someone like you willing to contribute positively to the group then
 someone who is negative. We all vote them off the island! (to use a
 Survivor illustration)
 
 On Sep 23, 2:55 pm, TheCobweb acob...@thecobweb.net wrote:
 Mark, don't do it!
 
 Good forum administrators don't grow on trees.
 
 In my opinion, most of the contributions to the list are fine (I've
 seen far worse).
 
 Just ban them (or even Name and Shame).
 
 Regards
 
 Adrian Cobley
 
 On Sep 23, 5:55 pm, Mark Levison m...@mlevison.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 For a number of years I've been a MLO user and forum administrator. I do
 this not because I'm paid but because I like Andrey, MLO and most of the
 participants. Today I reminded someone about appropriate tone on this list
 and the person's direct response to me involved profanity.
 
 Enough and Goodbye
 Mark Levison - former MLO forum admin
 
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[MLO] Re: Time to go

2011-09-24 Thread Grant
+1... no, make it +2 for Mark. Don't go!

On Sep 24, 9:24 pm, Luc Poitras luc.poit...@gmail.com wrote:
 I vote for Mark!

 Envoyé de mon iPhone

 Le 2011-09-24 à 12:27, qhamel qha...@gmail.com a écrit :







  I agree Mark. If you go they win...just ban him. We would rather have
  someone like you willing to contribute positively to the group then
  someone who is negative. We all vote them off the island! (to use a
  Survivor illustration)

  On Sep 23, 2:55 pm, TheCobweb acob...@thecobweb.net wrote:
  Mark, don't do it!

  Good forum administrators don't grow on trees.

  In my opinion, most of the contributions to the list are fine (I've
  seen far worse).

  Just ban them (or even Name and Shame).

  Regards

  Adrian Cobley

  On Sep 23, 5:55 pm, Mark Levison m...@mlevison.com wrote:

  For a number of years I've been a MLO user and forum administrator. I do
  this not because I'm paid but because I like Andrey, MLO and most of the
  participants. Today I reminded someone about appropriate tone on this list
  and the person's direct response to me involved profanity.

  Enough and Goodbye
  Mark Levison - former MLO forum admin

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[MLO] 3.6.1 Installed - no more autofill for contexts

2011-09-24 Thread carshow2
Don't know if this is the right place for this, but I just installed
3.6.1. Before this install, if I would type a letter into the context
box of a task, a dropdown menu would show me the possible contexts
that started with that letter. Now that feature seems to have
disappeared. Anyone know why this might be?

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Re: [MLO] MLO android widget

2011-09-24 Thread Lisa Stroyan
Active doesn't mean only today's tasks. It should show all leaf tasks that
start =today, aren't folders, don't have hide-in-todo set, aren't dependent
on another task, etc.

But I believe if you configure your view in the app with filters, it applies
to that view in the widget as well.  Can you give more details about what
your view setup is?

Lisa

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 3:54 PM, seandm seand...@gmail.com wrote:

 for some reason the widget changes its filters whenever i enter the
 program and exit. sometimes it will display a bunch of active tasks
 and then sometimes it will only display 1. Is the definition of
 Active mean only todays tasks?

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[MLO] Re: MLO 3.6 in Linux/Wine

2011-09-24 Thread Anil
I had the pervious version working with Wine on OSx. I upgraded to
3.6.1 and now get the following error when I try to launch it:

  err:ntlm:SECUR32_initNTLMSP ntlm_auth was not found or is outdated.
Make sure that ntlm_auth = 3.0.25 is in your path.
  err:ntlm:SECUR32_initNTLMSP Usually, you can find it in the winbind
package of your distribution.

Stupid me, I already updated my windows machine, so now my data file
is unreadable with the old version.

- Anil

On Sep 17, 12:29 am, Andrey Tkachuk (MLO)
for...@mylifeorganized.net wrote:
 I will look into it.

 In the mean time let me know if you have any logs or additional
 information on the issue.

 A.

 On Sep 17, 1:41 am, petro p...@petecrocker.com wrote:







  I've been having issues trying to get MLO 3.6 running under Crossover
  (Winefor Mac). Previous versions work fine. Hoping Andrey can chime
  in here and let us know if there's something to do with Unicode or
  some other new feature (I didn't install the wifi sync option) that
  causes some new windows library to be needed in this release. Can
  anyone on the desktop development team of MLO chime in to give us a
  lead in to what changed?

 Winedebugging is a bit tough and voluminous, so I'm hoping to narrow
  down the problem...

  On Sep 16, 2:44 pm, Mike McCallister mike.mccallis...@pkware.com
  wrote:

   You're not alone. Having the same issue. I installed on openSUSE 11.4 
   with Crossover Linux; the install seemed to go well, and mlo.exe runs on 
   my system; just doesn't display. FWIW, I get the same behavior in both 
   KDE 4.7 and GNOME 3 desktops. My .ml file is in Dropbox, but I don't get 
   any error messages about not finding that (or anything else). Been 
   running MLO on that machine for ~2 years.

   Mike Mc

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   From: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com 
   [mailto:mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Sinsley
   Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 9:04 PM
   To: MyLifeOrganized
   Subject: [MLO] MLO 3.6 in Linux/Wine

   Any one else having trouble using mlo 3.6 in Linux? I just upgraded
   today, and it worked fine in Windows, but when I tried it in Linux,
   thewinewindow would just spin its wheels for a while then disappear.
   If I run a ps command it shows that mlo.exe is running, so it's as if
   it just can't display properly. If anyone else is having similar
   trouble or knows of a workaround please let me know. Thanks!

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