[MLO] Re: Newbie question: How well would MLO match my requirements? (list provided)

[SRhyse]

Hi John,

I’m still not seeing where I’ve attacked you. If you take someone asking you if 
you’ve tried looking at the way you’re using the program as a personal attack 
worthy of multiple punctuation marks in reply, then maybe public discourse is 
not for you. I will, however, concede that you have become hysterical, and 
suggest that you save you exclamation points for something serious. This is a 
public forum about an app, John. You raised an issue and people responded to 
you. If I somehow struck a cord in what I wrote, which was written and reads as 
an entirely calm and calculated response to your issue, it’s probably because 
there is some truth to what I said.

Using contexts to see tasks in various views was one of the first things ever 
suggested to you when you started using MLO, which was 4 or more years ago as I 
recall. It’s also something repeatedly suggested to you in the time since. I’m 
not sure why it’s taken you that long to try it, or how that’s considered a 
“silly workaround” to anything. You can tag things with contexts to have them 
appear on their own in flat lists, or in the hierarchy they were written in. 
You can also arrange them within those views however you’d like. The default 
views do exactly that. They even named the context field after the GTD concept. 
There’s a GTD default template within MLO Windows too that you’re asked to pick 
from when you first start the program.

Summing up what you said you have only a vague sense of in my previous reply: 
you made a bunch of posts stating what you would like MLO to do, and how you 
would like things in MLO to be organized and arranged. MLO already does all of 
that. Now you’re replacing your concept of “GTD Lists” with “doing GTD 
efficiently,” which sounds like another McGuffin.

As I said regarding custom fields in MLO before, I think it’d be a wonderful 
addition and would love to have it, but that it also seemed not to address any 
of your problems in the slightest. Reading you go on about your issues, that 
appears to remain correct. I’m also not sure it’s possible for someone to agree 
with your frustrations with MLO because you’ve never successfully articulated 
them, and they seem to change based on the weather. 

It sounds like you’re just mismanaging your work, or frustrated with your work, 
potentially both. There’s not an app for that. If anything, MLO might make 
things worse because you can now mismanage your work on multiple levels, and 
are now given constant reminders of the work you’re frustrated about. 

Good luck with your GTD Lists, and have a good evening, morning, or afternoon, 
depending on where you’re at.

Best,

S

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Re: [MLO] Re: Can MLO Mobile Version Add a Synchronization Button to the Widget?

[MOK | MATSURU]

Dear Andrei,

  Thanks for sharing. Although i am using cloud sync, this wifi sync button
sounds very handy if i switch to wifi sync in the future.

  I did similar things previously using tasker to 'Autosync' MLO to the
cloud. :-)

On 26 October 2017 at 16:44, Andrei Bacean  wrote:

> tasker profile for import.
>
> четверг, 26 октября 2017 г., 11:38:55 UTC+3 пользователь Andrei Bacean
> написал:
>
>> Hi
>> here is another tasker method for Android.
>>
>> *How it should work: *
>> The user taps the sync button on the homescreen, tasker activates wifi,
>> tasker opens MLO and then taps the Sync button from the bottom toolbar. Mlo
>> is closed. That's all.
>> This is usefull for people who preffer WiFi sync. People who use Cloud do
>> not need this tweak.
>>
>> *Some differences of the current scenario:*
>> + tasker opens MLO only when wifi is activated
>> + there is no need to do the left-to-right swipe to access the wifi
>> button (remember to add it to the MLO toolbar first)
>> + no root required
>>
>> *Steps:*
>> * install tasker
>> * install tasker autoinput
>> * in the MLO app: add the sync button to the bottom toolbar
>> * recreate manuallty the tasker tasks or import from the attached file.
>> to import: open tasker. long tap the TASKS tab. tap import. choose the
>> file.
>> remember to change the AutoInput Action coordinates. You have to write
>> there the x,y coordinates of the MLO Sync Button (which you have added on
>> the previous step).
>> to find the coordinates, go to the Developer options, and enable "Show
>> pointer location". (see here how to enable the developer options
>> 
>> )
>> * enable tasker (in the current version you have to tap on 3 dots
>> (right-upper corner), and choose "enable tasker" )
>> * add a widget which points to your tasker Task. choose an icon for the
>> widget button.
>> That's all.
>>
>> Below are the screenshots of the Tasker task + the MLO settings for
>> adding the SYNC button to the bottom toolbar.
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> Enjoy!
>>
>> Br
>> Andrei
>>
>> пятница, 11 августа 2017 г., 13:48:39 UTC+3 пользователь tcsolcn написал:
>>>
>>> Can MLO Mobile Version Add a Synchronization Button to the Widget?
>>> Then we can Synchronize wiht MLO on PC by just one-click.
>>>
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Re: [MLO] Recommended practice for archiving tasks, folder, notes

[MOK | MATSURU]

hi Laurence,

  I am not sure the best way to handle this coz i didn't really look
into/using this myself.

  I thought of using MLO as part of my notebooks as well since i believe
having everything in 1 place is easier for me. But so far, i am using
Folder to put in simple notes or reference & marked it with a 'note' Flag.
then, i created a view to show all my 'notes' (i think i have only 2 to 3
notes only now).

  As for archiving, maybe you need to 'close' the project manually by going
through all the completed tasks and extract valuable information and store
some where else? like another 'note' branch in MLO or in other software/app
like Evernote/Onenote?

On 11 October 2017 at 14:47, Laurence Glazier 
wrote:

> I used to use folders without children for short notes, but now I use
> tasks set as hidden branches. Because I like a folder to be a folder.
>
> Either way, there is an issue when it comes to archiving a completed
> sub-outline. Perhaps a project that has been completed, and the project
> checkbox unticked. In the normal run of things I would like these to
> automatically be archived off to my archive file, but I believe folders or
> hidden tasks would be left behind.
>
> Is there a best way of doing this?
>
> Thanks, Laurence
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Re: [MLO] Re: Feature: Shared Task / List / Project

[MOK | MATSURU]

I agreed on what Dwight said.
I just tried this myself, only the task name & note are sent. The rest of
the task properties are not sent.

I would prefer to send all task properties (like what we see in task
preview page) so receiver will get enough info for the task.

On 6 September 2017 at 03:17, Dwight  wrote:

> Hi, Alonya. The solution you described is appropriate if you would like to
> share your entire tasklist with one other person. Suppose I am doing a
> project and I am waiting on one thing that you have to do. I might want to
> make certain that the thing you are doing for me is actually on your task
> list or else you might never get around to it. So I want to send you the
> one task. But I don't know you well enough to share my entire profile with
> you. The best way I know to do that is, on Android (and, I suppose, IOS)
> open the task and go into the edit task page. Click the "share" symbol at
> the top and select an app that's appropriate for contacting your colleague
> (email, facebook, whatever). Unfortunately this sends only the task name
> and not the due date, notes, importance, etc.Ideally MLO would be able to
> use this channel to send the task in some standard task-export format that
> could be impoerted into my colleague's Google Tasks, Thunderbird, Iphone
> tasks, and dozens of other third party task managers
>
> On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 9:20:31 AM UTC-4, Alyona (MLO Support)
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Michael,
>>
>> MLO was initially designed as a personal tool for task-management and not
>> for collaboration. Still, it is possible to sync a local file to MLO Cloud
>> and share this Cloud file with other users. Each Cloud user who has an
>> access to your Cloud file can download this file to the local environment,
>> process the tasks and sync the changes back to the Cloud where you can sync
>> them again to your MLO application.
>>
>> Use this
>> 
>> instruction on how to set up.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 3:30:29 PM UTC+3, Michael Chammah wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Is it possible to share tasks with a friend like some other todo apps
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
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Re: [MLO] TextExpander or other text shortcuts?

[MOK | MATSURU]

i am not Apple/Mac/iOS user.

But, i did a quick google search for the key word 'Textpander' and found
there are a few keyboards that will meet your requirements.

FYI, for my use case:
Windows = Autohotkey
Android = Multiling O Keyboard (with Autotext add on)/ Textpand app. :-)

On 19 October 2017 at 19:43, Mark  wrote:

> I forgot to mention that I use the iOS versions exclusively, and probably
> will continue to do so...
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Re: [MLO] Navigating tree structure in MLOi

[MOK | MATSURU]

I think for now, using hotkeys assigned to both flat list view & the
outline view is the fastest way to switch between views to see the
parent/project task.

On 29 October 2017 at 21:55, Mark  wrote:

> I have a question relating to a (relatively minor) pain point I’m
> experiencing:  Since I have to keep copious notes on my projects for status
> reports & frequent phone call requests for updates, I choose to keep them
> at the Project level, mostly, rather than the task level, since this
> consolidates the number of places I need to look and also makes it easy to
> summarize the info when I need to provide it.  However, there seems to be
> no way to quickly get to the parent unless I’m in an Outline view (and yes,
> this issue is exacerbated by the fact that I can’t sort by computed-score
> in Outline views, which is the subject of a different topic I posted).  So,
> basically, I have to pick my activities from a To-Do view since that’s the
> only place I see them by importance, then switch to the Outline view to
> find the Project/Parent that contains the notes in order to document the
> activity.  Fortunately, the currently selected Task is automatically
> focused in the All Tasks Outline view, which makes the process a bit less
> tedious, but it sure would be nice if there were a way of navigating up the
> tree - perhaps it’s there and I haven’t found it?  (Ideally, if the Full
> Path shown in the details pane on the right consisted of hot links to each
> of the elements, with the elements color-coded based on their status of
> Folder/Project/Task, that would be awesome, but there may be other and even
> better ways of doing it, as well...)
>
> Mark
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Re: [MLO] Getting MLO to tell you what to do next...

[Dwight]

Christoph: I understand that the 200-point scale for importance is more 
than you need and that nine levels would be enough for you. That's fine 
and I would like you to have a nine-value scale if that would help you. 
Please know that I use the 200 level scale for importance and it would 
be a real hardship for me if I had to manage my work queue with only 
nine levels of importance. Ideally there would be a way that you could 
use nine levels while I would still use 200.


-Dwight

On 1/9/2018 3:21 PM, Christoph Zwerschke wrote:

Am 09.01.2018 um 18:05 schrieb Marvin:
I've been using MLO for years. I'm one of those that migrated from 
Bonsai in the post Palm days. I've got a pretty good system setup 
managing everything in a single file with three main items, 
personal/hobby/work. But one of the things that I don't have MLO

doing, is sorting out what I should be doing next. Could you share
with me how you've got your MLO set up to tell you what is the higher
priority or short list the things you need to do next. I'm not
talking about just next actions, although I'm sure that'll be a big
part of it. I'm more interested in how you manage to organize your 
items to differentiate between the urgent/non-important and the 
non-urgent/important kind of items.

Hi Marvin.

Theoretically the "To-Do" view should give you just that, a flattened 
list of all the items, sorted by the notorious "computed score" that is 
a pretty unique feature of MLO.


I say "theoretically" because the "computed score" does not quite work 
the way which I think makes sense. For instance, in its calculation, 
items with no due date are treated as being due to day, instead of due 
in infinite days (later and thus less urgent than any task with 
specified due date).


Also, it does not factor in the "goal" (week, month, year) except for an 
option to add a boost to weekly goals.


Actually I don't understand why MLO has both an "urgency" and "goal" 
property, because to me they pretty much mean the same. So in MLO you 
can input the same thing twice, and even add conflicting values.


Request to the developers:

Could you consider re-visiting the "computed score" algorithm and 
unifying goal/urgency into a single setting in version 5? I'd like to 
have an urgency field with settings like today, next 3 days, week, next 
14 days, month, quarter, year, 3 years, decade. Similarly, "importance" 
should have priorities A1, A2, A3, B1, B2, B3, C1, C2, C3. This would be 
3x3 settings for each of the two qualities urgency and importance. Also, 
entering from such a fixed set of values would be easier and could be 
handled easier with a choice  on desktop and mobile using something like 
a slider with 9 tick marks or 9 buttons in a row.


Instead of time-based goals like "year", MLO could then in a later 
version grow "purpose-based" goals, like "getting PhD", where you could 
mark all tasks leading to the same goal, for those who want to be able 
to categorize and review their tasks in that way.


I believe with these changes MLO could become so much better.

Still, even in the current version the computed score ordering is 
helpful if you use it in a view where either all or none of the values 
have a due date, and all tasks have the same goal.


So I have created views like "this week" (goal = week or due date < 7 
days), "this month" (goal = week or month or due date < 30) and "this 
year" (similarly). I'm using these in my daily, weekly, monthly, yearly 
reviews. E.g. in the daily review I pick the tasks from "this week" and 
mark everything I want to do today with a star. In my weekly review I 
look at "this month" and change the goal to "week" for every task I want 
to tackle this week. Etc.


I think it's important that you distinguish between "review time" and 
"to do time", where you just work off the starred things from the list 
whether you like them or not. Sometimes when there are not "stars" or I 
don't have the time or energy to work on them, I pick items from extra 
views for "low energy" context or based on "max time".


Workspaces also help. For instance, you can create workspaces for 
"Personal" and "Work" which are zoom to the respective branches.


-- Christoph



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RE: [MLO] Re: Where can I change the size of text in Tab names?

['Michael Emerald, CFA' via MyLifeOrganized]

That’s a great question.  If the answer is you can’t, I’d vote for adding it as 
a feature.

 

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Subject: [MLO] Re: Where can I change the size of text in Tab names?

 

I haven't found a way to change the size of this text, to show more characters, 
you must close a few tabs (at my resolution, I see 7 characters only if I have 
opened more than about 15 tabs).

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[MLO] Re: Where can I change the size of text in Tab names?

[John . Smith]

On my 4K screen (3840 x 2160 px), sadly I'm only getting 7 characters with 
just one then tab open.   :^(

I'm sure I could get a few more if I lowered the Scaling in Windows (v10 
x64). It is currently set to 200%.
Whereas on my laptop where scaling is set to 125%, I am seeing a full 17 
characters(!).

The trouble is I don't want to lower my scaling because I need it at 200% 
for other applications.

J



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> I haven't found a way to change the size of this text, to show more 
> characters, you must close a few tabs (at my resolution, I see 7 characters 
> only if I have opened more than about 15 tabs).
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[MLO] Re: Where can I change the size of text in Tab names?

[TMZ]

I haven't found a way to change the size of this text, to show more 
characters, you must close a few tabs (at my resolution, I see 7 characters 
only if I have opened more than about 15 tabs).

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Re: [MLO] Getting MLO to tell you what to do next...

[Christoph Zwerschke]

Am 09.01.2018 um 18:05 schrieb Marvin:
I've been using MLO for years. I'm one of those that migrated from 
Bonsai in the post Palm days. I've got a pretty good system setup 
managing everything in a single file with three main items, 
personal/hobby/work. But one of the things that I don't have MLO

doing, is sorting out what I should be doing next. Could you share
with me how you've got your MLO set up to tell you what is the higher
priority or short list the things you need to do next. I'm not
talking about just next actions, although I'm sure that'll be a big
part of it. I'm more interested in how you manage to organize your 
items to differentiate between the urgent/non-important and the 
non-urgent/important kind of items.

Hi Marvin.

Theoretically the "To-Do" view should give you just that, a flattened 
list of all the items, sorted by the notorious "computed score" that is 
a pretty unique feature of MLO.


I say "theoretically" because the "computed score" does not quite work 
the way which I think makes sense. For instance, in its calculation, 
items with no due date are treated as being due to day, instead of due 
in infinite days (later and thus less urgent than any task with 
specified due date).


Also, it does not factor in the "goal" (week, month, year) except for an 
option to add a boost to weekly goals.


Actually I don't understand why MLO has both an "urgency" and "goal" 
property, because to me they pretty much mean the same. So in MLO you 
can input the same thing twice, and even add conflicting values.


Request to the developers:

Could you consider re-visiting the "computed score" algorithm and 
unifying goal/urgency into a single setting in version 5? I'd like to 
have an urgency field with settings like today, next 3 days, week, next 
14 days, month, quarter, year, 3 years, decade. Similarly, "importance" 
should have priorities A1, A2, A3, B1, B2, B3, C1, C2, C3. This would be 
3x3 settings for each of the two qualities urgency and importance. Also, 
entering from such a fixed set of values would be easier and could be 
handled easier with a choice  on desktop and mobile using something like 
a slider with 9 tick marks or 9 buttons in a row.


Instead of time-based goals like "year", MLO could then in a later 
version grow "purpose-based" goals, like "getting PhD", where you could 
mark all tasks leading to the same goal, for those who want to be able 
to categorize and review their tasks in that way.


I believe with these changes MLO could become so much better.

Still, even in the current version the computed score ordering is 
helpful if you use it in a view where either all or none of the values 
have a due date, and all tasks have the same goal.


So I have created views like "this week" (goal = week or due date < 7 
days), "this month" (goal = week or month or due date < 30) and "this 
year" (similarly). I'm using these in my daily, weekly, monthly, yearly 
reviews. E.g. in the daily review I pick the tasks from "this week" and 
mark everything I want to do today with a star. In my weekly review I 
look at "this month" and change the goal to "week" for every task I want 
to tackle this week. Etc.


I think it's important that you distinguish between "review time" and 
"to do time", where you just work off the starred things from the list 
whether you like them or not. Sometimes when there are not "stars" or I 
don't have the time or energy to work on them, I pick items from extra 
views for "low energy" context or based on "max time".


Workspaces also help. For instance, you can create workspaces for 
"Personal" and "Work" which are zoom to the respective branches.


-- Christoph

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[MLO] Getting MLO to tell you what to do next...

[Marvin]

I've been using MLO for years. I'm one of those that migrated from Bonsai 
in the post Palm days. I've got a pretty good system setup managing 
everything in a single file with three main items, personal/hobby/work. But 
one of the things that I don't have MLO doing, is sorting out what I should 
be doing next. Could you share with me how you've got your MLO set up to 
tell you what is the higher priority or short list the things you need to 
do next. 
I'm not talking about just next actions, although I'm sure that'll be a big 
part of it. I'm more interested in how you manage to organize your items to 
differentiate between the urgent/non-important and the non-urgent/important 
kind of items. Is there a way that your lists change as due dates get 
closer where non-important things get dumped? Do you have anything set up 
that factors in how much effort a particular item takes and is that 
factored in somehow? (larger projects started earlier, smaller ones left 
later...)
I've been using MLO to keep track of what needs to be done and sorting the 
information with due dates and such. I'm just wondering how much more I 
could be doing as far as getting MLO to suggest tasks in a slightly more 
complex manner based on the data that I've entered.

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[MLO] Where can I change the size of text in Tab names?

[John . Smith]

Hello

Using MLO on Windows 10, on my (4K) monitor I am only seeing the first 7 
characters of each Tab (i.e. "work area") name. 

Is there anywhere where I can change the size of this text? 

J

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[MLO] Re: Where do I change the format for 'normal' tasks? (in MLO Windows)

[John . Smith]

> Check Menu-Tools-Options-Apperance-Task Format

This takes you to a section called MLO Appearance, that contains a just 
tick list - all of which I have already got ticked.

> Menu-Tools-Options-Themes and Formating-Edit

Ah Cunningly hidden! Yes, that's the one. 

FWIW, under the "Fonts & Icons" tab (but not under "Task Format"), you can 
change the format of Tasks by clicking the "..." next to the font name, and 
you have an albeit rather limited choice of just 16 colours to choose form.

Many thanks.

J

On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 9:39:23 AM UTC, grizz wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Check Menu-Tools-Options-Apperance-Task Format
>
> or 
> Menu-Tools-Options-Themes and Formating-Edit
>
> Regards,
> ― grizz 
>
> W dniu poniedziałek, 8 stycznia 2018 23:53:17 UTC+1 użytkownik John . 
> Smith napisał:
>>
>> Hello 
>>
>> On my Windows MLO, some of my task names are mid-grey. These tasks are:
>> - not Active Tasks 
>> - not Project names
>> - not Folder names
>> - not Hidden in To-Do ?
>>
>> Where is the colour setting to change the format for such tasks?
>> For now, I have turned off Automatic formatting.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> J
>>
>>
>>

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[MLO] Re: Newbie question: How well would MLO match my requirements? (list provided)

[John . Smith]

> It’s kinda hard to fix a problem that’s user-generated.
"User generated problems" sounds like a clear personal attack on me.

> the real issues you are having are occurring on another 
> level that exists outside of any program
"Nothing person"?!

SRhyse if you cant see that you are attacking me personally there is no 
point in continuing this otherwise constructive dialogue.

> I was addressing the issues you brought forth to the 
> best of your ability to articulate them
You are implying that you did not understand how I articulated them, which 
is probably true. 
 
> move tasks between them however you’d like. 
Yes, of course, it's POSSIBLE in MLO to move tasks between lists but I have 
yet to find an easy, efficient way of doing so when dealing with hundreds 
of tasks in the system.

> not possible to use MLO for GTD
No. Again you misunderstand me. Of course it's POSSIBLE to do GTD in MLO. 
One of the strengths of GTD is that it is about principles and you could do 
GTD with a stick writing on sand on the seashore of you wanted to, but it 
wouldn't be very efficient. 

In fact, you would be much better off using paper. And using pen and paper 
is where I have several times been driven to. Note for anyone who hasn't 
tried it, paper is a surprisingly good way to do GTD and builds sound GTD 
habits. 

But the whole point of MLO is that it needs to overall work BETTER than 
paper. 

But the objective fact remains that I have come across a number of users 
outside of the hallowed grounds of this forum have frequently described MLO 
as requiring a number of "silly workarounds" in order to execute GTD 
_efficiently_. For example, since you push me, GTDNext.com was born out if 
this exact frustration by an MLO user.

My central point is that given that GTD is one of the major if not THE 
major task & time management method on the planet, that MLO really needs to 
work better - particularly when users have several hundred tasks on the go 
- and do so with fewer "silly workarounds". 

I know that despite some support from other MLO users (e.g. Richard C and 
[tentatively] Dwight) for the ability to add custom fields, it still 
appears to be a battle that has been lost. 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/mylifeorganized/john$20smith$20tags$20someday%7Csort:date/mylifeorganized/aHvLaU7lGuE/mGJf0W5JAwAJ

Either way like I said above I am - like most GTD users - not attempting to 
execute a purist version of GTD, just something that I find usable given 
the constraints that I have taken to trouble to list.

> As Dwight outlined to you, other than color coding 
> things—which may or may not be possible right now, 
> I have no idea—MLO already does seemingly all of what 
> you just outlined to me in your post to me, said post
> seemingly having nothing to do with the post you made 
> prior about “GTD Lists.

I have read that sentence three times now but whether or not it is 
grammatically valid, I only have a vague sense of what you are trying to 
communicate.  

OK, SRhyse I think we're done here. No more war of words. If you choose to 
attack me again it shall find something better to do with my time than 
respond. 

Dwight, calm & rational as ever, was good enough to address my issues 
constructively and I am road-testing his suggestions. They are clearly 
workarounds, and there are some unintending consequences but maybe I can 
live with them. 

Inspired by both Dwight, and New Year zeal, yesterday I decided to start 
again from scratch and I looked at all the default templates that MLO 
supplies to see if any of the suggested ways of doing GTD would work 
reasonably efficiently for me (or any other user with large numbers of 
tasks). 

Some of the suggested conventions in the templates have been quite useful. 
However, in the absence of a field for status MLO's templates are using 
MOVING of tasks to change status. This becomes works brilliantly with small 
numbers of tasks but becomes very clunky once one has hundreds of task as 
lots of scrolling becomes necessary.

So I am back to Dwight suggestion of conflating Context with Status. 
Although I tried it several months ago I can't now recall quite what the 
issues were, and although it's messy, with a few subtle tweaks, I may be 
able to live with it this time around. 

Enough!

So, thank you again Dwight. 

I shall revert once I have added more data.

J




On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 3:11:34 AM UTC, SRhyse wrote:
>
> Hi John, 
>
> I made no personal attack on you, I was addressing the issues you brought 
> forth to the best of your ability to articulate them over what’s now been 
> around a 4 year period. Namely, you saying that it was not possible to use 
> MLO for GTD, and your repeated claims about its inability to handle “GTD 
> Lists.” Your post to me here has completely ignored all of that in its 
> entirety, instead changing the goalposts to different things and calling me 
> hysterical for responding to you. Which is as odd as it is 

Re: [MLO] Re: Can "end of day" as midnight be changed?

[Venessa G]

I imagine it would run chron at midnight however I changed the time on my
system clock. But I don't want to do that, both because I use my clock and
because I have other things where the chron is set for 3am and changing the
system clock would mess *those* up (as well as Google calendar). ;) So
that's not a solution I'd use.

On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 6:49 AM, Wallace Gilbraith 
wrote:

> What happens if you reset your system clock?
>
>
> - sent from my phone,  please excuse brevity  -
>
> - always mail me at h...@gilbraith.co.uk -
>
> Sent from BlueMail 
> On 6 Jan 2018, at 10:20, Venessa G  wrote:
>>
>> Wow, Dwight, thanks so much for the detailed reply! I am going to have to
>> come back when my mind is a bit more fresh and play around with it!  I
>> haven't done anything with advanced filters as yet. I have had MLO for a
>> week now and it took several days for me to get my head around how the
>> basic components work (particularly Contexts; I ended up having to go back
>> in and change Contexts on tasks because I didn't initially understand how
>> they worked).
>>
>> I'll be honest and say that the time seems confusing, but it's also
>> almost 2am, so I'm not exactly at the top of my game! lol I will come back
>> and re-read though.
>>
>> Ultimately, what I've done at this point, is change some of the hours of
>> the Contexts (particularly the Weekly ones) to not display from midnight to
>> 6am. That's helped a lot. I do also admit that when the due date turns red,
>> it makes me anxious... So that's also a big reason why being able to change
>> the chron time from midnight to something later would be useful.
>>
>> Okay, heading to bed, but I wanted to take a second to thank you very
>> much for such a helpful post and I promise I will come back to it when I
>> can grok it better :)
>>
>> Venessa
>>
>> On Friday, January 5, 2018 at 12:59:22 AM UTC-5, Dwight wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 7:00:29 AM UTC-5, Venessa G wrote:

 I'm on the trial and have found that MLO seems to work really well with
 the way I think and go about my day, with just a few exceptions. Most I
 either learned to work within or I work around. But I'm really hoping this
 one can be changed, rather than endured.

 I often work very late, sometimes after midnight. It's disconcerting
 when I've got my list down to a couple things and then suddenly it's
 populated with all the tasks for the next morning. Aside from going in and
 changing all the time settings for the contexts so that there is nothing
 between midnight and, say 6am (which could then mess up what I *am* working
 on in the moment), is there any way to have the day reset at a time not
 midnight?

 Thanks!

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi, Vanessa and Richard, apologies for the long answer but this is
>>> actually a complex subject. MLO has incredible power but a lot of that
>>> power is concentrated in the "advanced filter" section, where you can
>>> define a set of rules that produced a list of selected tasks that exactly
>>> matches what you need to see right now. So, no, you cannot change what time
>>> midnight happens but you can create a task list which excludes today's
>>> tasks until 6am by setting up the appropriate filters.
>>>
>>> First, I want to check a couple of assumptions. I assume that a task
>>> that was on your list yesterday and didn't get completed should still be on
>>> the list today. Same for tasks that were on the list the day before
>>> yesterday and didn't get completed. And so on. Also, from midnight to six,
>>> while you are not wanting to see the new day's tasks (yet), I am assuming
>>> that if there's a task explicitly coded to start at 3am you want it to show
>>> up on your list at 3am and not wait till 6am with the rest of the day's
>>> tasks. If either of these assumptions is wrong then my solution won'e work.
>>> Please let me know!
>>>
>>> So, the key to working with advanced filters is to forget about issues
>>> like what time it is and how tired you are and just describe what tasks you
>>> want to see. State it in terms like I want to see every task where_,
>>> and fill in the blank with a list of conditions. Usually the conditions
>>> describe characteristics of each task that determine if it should be
>>> displayed. Sometimes it includes characteristice of the tasks's parent or
>>> the task's top-level parent. It does not include the time, the date, the
>>> day of the week, or your horoscope. The advanced filter knows about
>>> concepts like now(current date and time), today (current date at midnight)
>>> and tomorrow (current date plus one at midnight.), but they have to be used
>>> in testing against defined characteristics of the task.
>>>
>>> We should also do some background on date/time formats and midnight. A
>>> date/time value is expressed as a floating-point decimal number, where the

[MLO] Re: Reoccurs/due date of task after completitnion of another task

[grizz]

Hi,

Both X and Y are one day actions.

I want to achive somthing like postponing starte date of task:
In ideal scenerio: X should be done on 1 day of month, Y on 14th. But if  
Finished X not on 1st but ex. four days later, Y should be started/due on 
18th and then next occurrence of X on 5th and so on.

W dniu poniedziałek, 8 stycznia 2018 09:50:04 UTC+1 użytkownik Dwight 
napisał:
>
> Hi, grizz. I have to ask for a little more information. Does Y always 
> happen two weeks after X?  
>
> Task Y apparently starts and is due all on the same day. Is the same true 
> of X, or dues X actually involve some lead time?
>
> A lot of times when people are using "reoccurs one month after completion" 
> rather than "reoccurs every one month" it is because the task does not 
> reliably get done when scheduled. Some times it might happen every month, 
> other times there might be a few months elapsed before it gets done. Is 
> that what's happening for you?
>
> In this scenario, the "one month" is like a minimum wait time. After you 
> do X, you may not do it again the next day or the next week, you have to 
> wait a month.What happens if you do X on January 1 and Y has start and due 
> date January 15 but you do not get around to doing Y until Feb 7. Does X 
> happen again on Feb 1 or does it have to wait for Y to happen? If X happens 
> on Feb 1 does Y get rescheduled for Feb 15 or does it remain overdue for 
> Jan 15? After Y happens on Feb 7 is the next Y Feb 15 (two weeks after X) 
> or Mar 7 (a month after Y) or both?
>
> The scenario is a little confusing to me because there are two different 
> formulas for scheduling Y and I don't know what to do if they give 
> different results. If you can explain how this would be supposed to work, I 
> will try to see hoe that could be coded.
>
> -Dwight
>
> On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 3:12:33 AM UTC-5, grizz wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I want to have two task:
>>
>> X - reoccurs month after completition
>> Y - reoccurs month after completition and it's start/due date should be 2 
>> weeks after completion of X.
>>
>> How can I achieve this?
>>
>

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[MLO] Re: Feature Request: Parsing with Task by Email.

[gnopps]

I was surprised as well that MLO doesn't support parsing tasks by email. 
Seems strange as the functionality is there already - it just needs to be 
applied to TBE just as with any other task.

Please add this functionality MLO! It would help automate a lot of my work.

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[MLO] Re: Where do I change the format for 'normal' tasks? (in MLO Windows)

[grizz]

Hi,

Check Menu-Tools-Options-Apperance-Task Format

or 
Menu-Tools-Options-Themes and Formating-Edit

Regards,
― grizz 

W dniu poniedziałek, 8 stycznia 2018 23:53:17 UTC+1 użytkownik John . Smith 
napisał:
>
> Hello 
>
> On my Windows MLO, some of my task names are mid-grey. These tasks are:
> - not Active Tasks 
> - not Project names
> - not Folder names
> - not Hidden in To-Do ?
>
> Where is the colour setting to change the format for such tasks?
> For now, I have turned off Automatic formatting.
>
> Cheers
>
> J
>
>
>

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[MLO] MyLifeOrganized v.5 for Windows

[Алексей Широких]

Any notes about linux support ?

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