[MLO] [FEATURE REQUEST] Relative Date Format

[Radek Pilich]

I would like the option to change date displays from absolute (Mon, Jan 17) 
to relative (...-5 days  -1 day, today, +1 day . +31 days.) 
format. My brain doesn't handle absolute dates, I need the time dimension 
to be linked with current moment to understand it. Could this be made 
possible via some settings toggle? This should not affect calendar display 
of course, it should be applied when it comes to displaying dates in the 
lists / widgets.

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[MLO] Hierarchically recurring chains and widget display

[Radek Pilich]

My primary use case for MLO should be the organization of all sorts of 
recurring activities.

I would like to use hierarchical structures with folders on the levels 
above the final bottom level task.

Only the bottom level tasks will be checked out manually, but the folders 
themselves will have recurrences as well with advanced option set to 
automatic recurring when any subtask is completed and disabled resetting of 
subtasks.

All recurrences reset x days after completion.

In example:

RESTORATIVE ACTIVITIES (2)
--- HYGIENE (4)
---   --- [] FACE SHAVE (6)
---   --- [] HEAD SHAVE (12)
---   --- [] FINGER  NAILS (15)
---   --- [] TOE NAILS (35)
--- RELEASE (2)
---   --- [] YOGA (3)
---   --- [] SAUNA (10)
---   --- [] EPSOM BATH (10)

In the example above, you can see that I want to do some sort of 
restorative activity every other day, do some hygiene activities once in 
four days, cut my finger nails every 15 days etc.

I'm not into doing things before do date, I prefer to have small amount of 
bottom level task slightly overdue and pick those I feel like doing at the 
moment.

This all works nicely. My issues are around filtering and displaying the 
TODOs in a way I would like to see them - especially in widgets, as it is 
not possible to display hierarchy in widgets at the moment.

Basically I would like the top down hierarchy of everything due and before 
today + 1, ordered by due date ascending. 

The closest to my liking so far is to group by folder, but it works well 
only with one level of folders and tasks directly below them. And even in 
this case, it's not possible to sort the folders by due date, only 
alphabetically :|

It's even more problematic with more levels of folders, as it duplicates 
the folders that have another folder above them.

Does anyone have experience with similar setup? How do you display this in 
widgets?

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[MLO] Bug / Missing feature - hierarchical sorting

[Radek Pilich]

When I enable Hierarchy in Custom View Settings, then the hierarchy items 
don't respond to sort by setting. Even when I set multiple levels of sort 
by (due date, due date, due date), the items displayed through the Show 
hierarchy option are not being sorted and are displayed as they are in the 
task list. I think this is either a bug a there should be a secondary sort 
by option added to the Hierarchy settings section.

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[MLO] Bug / Change Request - Recurrance changing folder back to task

[Radek Pilich]

Currently, it is possible to set recurrance to a task and than change the 
task to a folder. The recurrance reset of such folder can still be 
triggered from children task. 

This is very useful for scenarios, where a type of activity (parent) - i.e. 
cardio exercise, should be done with certain frequency (every third day) 
and this is accomplised via specific activities (children), that occur with 
different higher frequencies - i.e. run every 10th day, swim every 10th 
day, bike every 10th day.

In this scenario, it is really useful to have the parent set as folder, 
because I want that parent only to be restarted via a subtask restart, not 
via manual restart. 

And here comes the problem - when a recurrig folder is restarted via a 
subtask, it automatically changes from a folder back to a task! 

Although I kind of understand the rationallate of where this is coming 
from, I think it's undersirable from a user perspective (I mean, what would 
be a use case for this?) and it would be preferable for the folder to 
remain folder if the user set it so, even though recurrance of folders 
might not make much sense at the first sight.

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[MLO] [FEATURE REQUEST] Recurrence -> Advanced Options -> Advanced Recurring -> Reset flag

[Radek Pilich]

This is an ask for a new Advanced Recurrence setting - Clear flag.

I believe the primary use of flags is a sort of prioritization tool for 
next actions.

This works great for non-recurring tasks.

But with recurring tasks there is a trouble, as once assigned flag remainns 
assigned even for future occurances, which might be undesirable, as the 
tactical situation in the future will not likely correspond to the current 
situation and will likely require a different priority.

Therefore it would be useful to have an option (or even a change in default 
behavior) to have the flag automatically cleared for each new occurance.

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[MLO] Re: Hierarchically recurring chains and widget display

[Radek Pilich]

OK, I've found a solution flattening the hiearchy (tinkered custom view 
settings) and workaround for ordering the grouped folders (double digit / 
two levels prefixes in folder names to maintain a consistent logical 
ordering.

On Saturday, 12 March 2022 at 12:00:46 UTC+1 Radek Pilich wrote:

> My primary use case for MLO should be the organization of all sorts of 
> recurring activities.
>
> I would like to use hierarchical structures with folders on the levels 
> above the final bottom level task.
>
> Only the bottom level tasks will be checked out manually, but the folders 
> themselves will have recurrences as well with advanced option set to 
> automatic recurring when any subtask is completed and disabled resetting of 
> subtasks.
>
> All recurrences reset x days after completion.
>
> In example:
>
> RESTORATIVE ACTIVITIES (2)
> --- HYGIENE (4)
> ---   --- [] FACE SHAVE (6)
> ---   --- [] HEAD SHAVE (12)
> ---   --- [] FINGER  NAILS (15)
> ---   --- [] TOE NAILS (35)
> --- RELEASE (2)
> ---   --- [] YOGA (3)
> ---   --- [] SAUNA (10)
> ---   --- [] EPSOM BATH (10)
>
> In the example above, you can see that I want to do some sort of 
> restorative activity every other day, do some hygiene activities once in 
> four days, cut my finger nails every 15 days etc.
>
> I'm not into doing things before do date, I prefer to have small amount of 
> bottom level task slightly overdue and pick those I feel like doing at the 
> moment.
>
> This all works nicely. My issues are around filtering and displaying the 
> TODOs in a way I would like to see them - especially in widgets, as it is 
> not possible to display hierarchy in widgets at the moment.
>
> Basically I would like the top down hierarchy of everything due and before 
> today + 1, ordered by due date ascending. 
>
> The closest to my liking so far is to group by folder, but it works well 
> only with one level of folders and tasks directly below them. And even in 
> this case, it's not possible to sort the folders by due date, only 
> alphabetically :|
>
> It's even more problematic with more levels of folders, as it duplicates 
> the folders that have another folder above them.
>
> Does anyone have experience with similar setup? How do you display this in 
> widgets?
>

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Re: [MLO] A Geeks Guide to Context Hours in MLO-Android 3 (Re: OpenHours in Tasks.csv)

[Radek Pilich]

Is this still valid for v4?
On Saturday, 12 October 2019 at 21:32:48 UTC+2 imajeff wrote:

> Thanks we need more like that, and an easy way to find the one we need at 
> the moment
>
>
> 
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>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 1:25 PM 'AndroidOnlyGTD' via MyLifeOrganized <
> mylifeo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> 
>>>
>>> ##  A Geeks Guide to Context Hours in MLO-Android 3
>>>
>>> #
>>>
>>>
 1) Abstract
>>>
>>> 2) Format Description
>>>
>>> 3) Step by Step Instructions
>>>
>>>
 
>>>
>>> ##  1) Abstract
>>>
>>> #  aka: Why I spent 8 hours reverse engineering a MLOBAK of 
 wine-exported MLT template =)
>>>
>>>
 My Life Organized is GTD style task management application for Windows, 
 Android and iOS.
>>>
>>> The Android version of MyLifeOrganized v 3.2.3 lacks any functionality 
 for editing "Context Hours" directly.
>>>
>>> This document describes a workaround for setting up "Context Hours" on 
 standalone Android,
>>>
>>> by manually calculating and injecting a hexadecimal string into a 
 csv-based MLO-Android backup file.
>>>
>>>
 
>>>
>>> ##  2) Format Description
>>>
>>> #  see also: MLT-ContextHours-ReverseEngineer.png
>>>
>>>
 This section describes the opening hours of a fictional context 
 @OfficeSpace,
>>>
>>> which are Mondays to Fridays 08:15 - 12:15 and and 12:45 - 16:45.
>>>
>>>
 MLO Android v3.2.3 provides a backup/restore functionality for 
 exporting/importing a "*.mlobak" file.
>>>
>>> This is a simple ZIP file, which contains two files: "tasks.csv" and 
 "views.xml".
>>>
>>> The "tasks.csv" file contains - amongst other things - context 
 definitions within a "[Places]" section.
>>>
>>>

 The "[Places]" format is defined as:
>>>
>>> 
 UID,Caption,HideFromTodo,HideFromItemProps,OpenHours,Note,Latitude,Longitude,Radius,NotifyWhenArrive,NotifyWhenLeave
>>>
>>> It looks like this:
>>>
>>> 
 {AC6CC3D8-FB3D-4929-AB4B-80C9EDA62F13},@OfficeSpace,0,0,800060001FFF800060001FFF800060001FFF800060001FFF800060001FFF,0,0
>>>
>>>
 The "OpenHours" field has a fixed length of 168 hexadecimal characters, 
 one for each hour of the week (7*24=168):
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 800060001FFF
>>>
>>> 800060001FFF
>>>
>>> 800060001FFF
>>>
>>> 800060001FFF
>>>
>>> 800060001FFF
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> The week starts on sunday at 00:00, thus character 32 corresponds to 
>>> monday 08:00-09:00.
>>> Each hour is devided into 4 intervals of 15 minutes each: 
>>> 00-15,15-30,30-45,45-60
>>>
>>> There are 16 states per hour (4*4), wich are defined as (O=Open, 
>>> c=closed):
>>> HexChar  0123456789ABC  
>>>   DEF
>>> 4x15min   OOOc OOcO OOcc OcOO OcOc OccO Occc cOOO cOOc cOcO cOcc 
>>> ccOO ccOc cccO 
>>> Thus a hexadecimal "6" would represent OccO, which would be the 
>>> 30-minute lunchbreak in this @OfficeSpace example.
>>>
>>> The following 7*24 grid is a human-readable representation of 
>>> @OfficeSpaces OpenHours field.
>>> 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 
>>> 21 22 23   HOUR / DAYOPENING HOURS TEXT
>>> F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  
>>> F  F  FSunday
>>> F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  8  0  0  0  6  0  0  0  1  F  F  F  F  
>>> F  F  FMonday08:15-12:15, 12:45-16:45
>>> F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  8  0  0  0  6  0  0  0  1  F  F  F  F  
>>> F  F  FTuesday   08:15-12:15, 12:45-16:45
>>> F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  8  0  0  0  6  0  0  0  1  F  F  F  F  
>>> F  F  FWednesday 08:15-12:15, 12:45-16:45
>>> F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  8  0  0  0  6  0  0  0  1  F  F  F  F  
>>> F  F  FThursday  08:15-12:15, 12:45-16:45
>>> F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  8  0  0  0  6  0  0  0  1  F  F  F  F  
>>> F  F  FFriday08:15-12:15, 12:45-16:45
>>> F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  F  
>>> F  F  FSaturday
>>>
>>> 
>>> ##  3) Step by Step Instructions
>>> #  see also: MLO3-ContextHours-Android.jpg
>>>
>>> # 3.1) Required Apps:
>>> - MLO-Android v3.x
>>> - RAR   (or other ZIP archiver)
>>> - TurboEdit (or other TXT editor)
>>>
>>> # 3.2) Use above 24*7 grid from as template and remove 
>>> headers/spaces/linebreaks to form your 168 character OpenHours string.
>>>
>

[MLO] Re: [FEATURE REQUEST] Relative Date Format

[Radek Pilich]

OK, thanks, that would be great!

Unfortunately, I forgot to mention, I'm using the MLO4 for Android, while 
you're talking about desktop version I presume. I didn't find a way to do 
this on droid.

On Thursday, 31 March 2022 at 19:32:37 UTC+2 fletcher...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> There is a way to do this presently, I believe.
>
> Go into:
> *Tools->Options*
> Then select:
> *Themes and Formatting*
> Then click:
> *Data and Time Format...*
> Then (and here's the secret bit). Click
> *Advanced* tab
> Play around with the settings in there. Inserting R into the date format 
> will give you a relative date (e.g., nnn days ago)
>
> I think you can get it to what you're looking for.
>
> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 2:29:27 AM UTC-8 radek@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I would like the option to change date displays from absolute (Mon, Jan 
>> 17) to relative (...-5 days  -1 day, today, +1 day . +31 days.) 
>> format. My brain doesn't handle absolute dates, I need the time dimension 
>> to be linked with current moment to understand it. Could this be made 
>> possible via some settings toggle? This should not affect calendar display 
>> of course, it should be applied when it comes to displaying dates in the 
>> lists / widgets.
>
>

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[MLO] MLO 4 keep stopping

[Radek Pilich]

Please help

My Android MLO has become unaccesible. Only thing I get is "MLO 4 keep 
stopping" without the app ever launching. All the widgets are blank white. 
No cloud backup (I use emoticon in pretty much every task title), uncertain 
about Gdrive or other backup - probably not, I vaguely remember having some 
technical problem while attempting to set it up. 

What could I try to do to not loose and hopefully recover my data?

Thanks.

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[MLO] Re: MLO 4 keep stopping

[Radek Pilich]

PROBLEM SOLVED!

I have removed all the MLO widget instances from the home screens, killed 
all apps that use the widgets (as overlays) and then MLO finally booted!

Backup created, uuu.

Now going to try to recreate all the widgets.

On Tuesday, 26 April 2022 at 10:14:50 UTC+2 Andrei, Win&Droid MLO user 
wrote:

> Hi
>
> *ml data file*
> Please find and make a copy of the data file first.
> It is a file with "ml" extension. Search for it and copy it to a safe 
> place.
>
> *backups*
> Search for backups which MLO creates on regulary basis. 
> Here is a step-by-step guide. 
> 
>
> *run a copy of mlo application*
> Run the portable version of MLO 
> . Try to open 
> the data file and if it fails, open the backup file.
> *(from help guide: ...the backup file has the same name as a data file has 
> but with .bak extension. Open this file with MLO application and select 
> "Save as.." to save your data in .ml format.)*
>
> Good luck
> Best wishes
> Andrew
>
> вторник, 26 апреля 2022 г. в 00:13:09 UTC+3, radek@gmail.com: 
>
>> Please help
>>
>> My Android MLO has become unaccesible. Only thing I get is "MLO 4 keep 
>> stopping" without the app ever launching. All the widgets are blank white. 
>> No cloud backup (I use emoticon in pretty much every task title), uncertain 
>> about Gdrive or other backup - probably not, I vaguely remember having some 
>> technical problem while attempting to set it up. 
>>
>> What could I try to do to not loose and hopefully recover my data?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>

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Re: [MLO] Re: How to repeat a task every year for only a few months

[Radek Pilich]

I would set the regular recurrence, i.e. 20 days after completion. I rarely 
use other type of recurrence than xxx days after completion. Then at the 
end of season, I would manually advance the next due date to the start of 
next season. Then it would appear in the actions and recur as expected 20 
days after completion of first recurrence of the next season.
On Wednesday, 25 May 2022 at 21:20:26 UTC+2 crain...@gmail.com wrote:

> Awesome ideas - thank you both!
>
> On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 3:44:35 PM UTC-4 Dwight wrote:
>
>> I am close to Susanna's second option.
>> I have a huge number of outdoor-oriented tasks, summer daily, some are 
>> weekly, some are monthly, one is every 11 days. I tag them all with the 
>> word " hibernate ". When it gets cold, I create a task called "end 
>> hibernation", set it for next year April 1 start date. Then I turn on 
>> multiselect, filter to view only tasks with the hibernate tag, select them 
>> all and set a dependency on the end hibernation task.
>> Around April 1 if it's a late spring I update the start date for end 
>> hibernation. Maybe a few times. When the warm weather starts i select the 
>> end hibernation task, ask for a list of tasks dependent on this task, 
>> multiselect them all and "skip occurrences up to today" then delete the end 
>> hibernation task.
>> Obviously if I had one or two hibernating tasks all of this would be 
>> unnecessary.
>>
>> On May 24, 2022 14:47:16 Susannah  wrote:
>>
>>> I put this kind of task in separately for each month I want it and then 
>>> set it to annual recurrence.   Not ideal but with copy and paste doesn't 
>>> take too long.  It would be nice if you could pick months like you can days 
>>> of the week.
>>> Another way which I don't use would be to put it in with monthly 
>>> Recurrence and when you get to October just remember to complete as many 
>>> times as need to get to May.  I do that sometimes on my daily tasks when it 
>>> is a full week and I know I won't have time for something for a few days.
>>> Looking forward to hearing what others do.
>>> Susannah
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 2:23:03 PM UTC-4 crain...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Hey folks - is this possible?  I want to set a task to remind me to 
 fertilize the lawn at the end of the month, but only say May through 
 October.  Don't reoccur Nov - April, then start back up.

 I'm guessing it's not possible, but would love to know if there is a 
 way.  Thanks!

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[MLO] [BUG][ANDROID] VIEWS > GROUP BY > Show group name not working for effort, importance, urgency....

[Radek Pilich]

Show group name not working for effort,  importance, urgency and maybe 
others.

It's working for the fields, where it's not really that necessary - i.e. 
when grouping by parent, tag etc. - I don't need it to show group name, as 
it is obvious, what the grouping field is.

However with effort, importance, urgency it's not possible to know, 
what the grouping field is, all all those fields share the same values. 
Therefore it is necessary to show group name to understand the grouping. 
However the group name is not showing, even when enabled. 

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[MLO] [REQUEST][ANDROID] WIDGETS > CONTEXT MENU > Add UNDO action to the list

[Radek Pilich]

Please consider adding UNDO action to the list of actions in the context 
menu of the widgets.

It's a regular occurrence that I accidentally tap complete a wrong task and 
need to undo that action.

I believe that it sometimes worked for me to go into the application and 
use the UNDO function there, but right now, probably due to the way how I 
combine views and workspaces or something, even this workaround is not 
working and there is no way how to UNDO the task (besides knowing what task 
did I complete and finding it through search).

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[MLO] [REQUEST][ANDROID] ANIMATIONS > Add setting to disable SELECT VIEW list animation

[Radek Pilich]

Consider adding option to disable SELECT VIEW list animation in the widgets.

When having lots of views, it takes several seconds till the list scrolls 
into the section, where I have grouped the views that I use for that 
particular widget instance.

Desired behavior is to open the SELECT VIEW list and IMMEDIATELY have the 
currently active list in the middle of the displayed section of the list.

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[MLO] Re: [REQUEST][ANDROID] ANIMATIONS > Add setting to disable SELECT VIEW list animation

[Radek Pilich]

EDIT: The same should also apply for the list under the left hamburger menu 
in the app itself.

On Thursday, 7 July 2022 at 09:14:14 UTC+2 Radek Pilich wrote:

> Consider adding option to disable SELECT VIEW list animation in the 
> widgets.
>
> When having lots of views, it takes several seconds till the list scrolls 
> into the section, where I have grouped the views that I use for that 
> particular widget instance.
>
> Desired behavior is to open the SELECT VIEW list and IMMEDIATELY have the 
> currently active list in the middle of the displayed section of the list.
>

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[MLO] [IDEA] DEPENDENCIES > New type of dependency - complete task when any / all dependencies are completed

[Radek Pilich]

It would be useful if there were additional types of task dependencies.

I would find it useful to have a dependency, that completes a given 
(recurring) task, when any or all dependent tasks are completed.

This would be similar to AUTOMATIC RECURRING function in the ADVANCED 
OPTIONS functionality for recurring tasks, except that it would allow 
non-hierarchical linking of tasks - any task in the MLO could complete any 
other task.

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[MLO] [IDEA] [ANDROID] WIDGETS > Widget header button to show/hide star/flag

[Radek Pilich]

It would help my workflow immensely if there was a button in the widget 
header, that would toggle / cycle between:

- show stars
- show flags
- show stars & flags
- hide stars & flags

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[MLO] [REQUEST] [ANDROID] VIEW LISTS > Show groups in the lists

[Radek Pilich]

Consider adding / showing list groups in the list.

Right now, the groups show only under the left hamburger menu in the app, 
they don't show in the list menu at the top of the app nor in the widget 
list of views.

As a workaround, I have to create additional "separator" views, to add 
sections to the list.

Also, please make it possible to rename existing groups, I believe it's not 
possible at the moment.

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[MLO] [IDEA] REMINDERS > Overdue reminders

[Radek Pilich]

I would like to have reminders based on the overdue time of a given task.
I.e. - I would set a reminder, that reminds me when a given task is 3 days 
overdue.

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[MLO] Re: Bug / Missing feature - hierarchical sorting

[Radek Pilich]

That's nice, unfortunately, this function is not available on Android.

Furthermore, I don't want to change the sorting of the outline itself - I 
want the the outline itself to be sorted alphabetically (I use number 
prefixes to sort folder and parent structures), I only want the tasks 
without children to be sorted according to the view sorting setting and 
only within that particular view, not in the main outline.

On Friday, 27 May 2022 at 16:33:51 UTC+2 Alyona (MLO Support) wrote:

> By design sorting in views applies only to top level tasks. But it is 
> possible to enable sorting of subtasks in certain branches. Select all top 
> level items, right-click ->  Advanced -> Sort subtasks
> Here is a screenshot: 
> https://content.screencast.com/users/alyonag/folders/Jing/media/0230c667-4f5b-494e-bf72-81be97aa4adb/2020-05-20_0001.png
>
> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 11:05:44 AM UTC radek@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> When I enable Hierarchy in Custom View Settings, then the hierarchy items 
>> don't respond to sort by setting. Even when I set multiple levels of sort 
>> by (due date, due date, due date), the items displayed through the Show 
>> hierarchy option are not being sorted and are displayed as they are in the 
>> task list. I think this is either a bug a there should be a secondary sort 
>> by option added to the Hierarchy settings section.
>
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[MLO] [REQUEST] [ANDROID] List item move mode > shift flag and star instead of replacing star

[Radek Pilich]

Consider adjusting how the drag and drop moving of list items works.

Right now, when enabling the move mode, the drag handle replaces the star 
icon, while the flag icon remains visible.

This somehow assumes, that star icon is somehow less important information 
that is not necessary while manually rearranging items. That's not true in 
my case.

 I would like to see BOTH flag and star when rearranging items in the list.

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[MLO] [REQUEST] CONTEXTS > SHOW IN > New setting - Show in props line

[Radek Pilich]

Consider adding new setting to the context items - Show in props line.

Right now, ALL assigned context appear in the props line, which makes the 
feature of showing contexts in the props line pretty much useless if using 
more than 2-3 contexts for a single task.

I use multiple context "sub-groups", but most of them are used to separate 
tasks into views, turning a particular view into particular context(s) 
configuration. 

However there are some contexts, that are not used for filtering and that I 
would like to see in the props line.

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[MLO] [REQUEST] [ANDROID] TOOLBAR SETTING > Allow full customization of toolbar items

[Radek Pilich]

Consider allowing full customization of toolbar items in toolbar settings.

Right now, it is not possible to get rid of first four items - add task, 
add subtask, show / hide completed, navigation button. 

With the exception of the navigation button, I pretty much never use the 
first three buttons.

I would like to get rid off them in order to add additional buttons to the 
toolbar I actually use,  which I have to access right now via the secondary 
context menu.

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[MLO] [REQUEST] [ANDROID] Make it easier to edit task

[Radek Pilich]

Please consider making it easier to edit task.

This could be accomplished at least in two ways:

   1. Add toggle button to enable / disable preview mode, consequently 
   changing the behavior of the left swipe to go straight into task edit 
   screen instead of task preview screen  (and consequently going straight 
   back to the list after pressing DONE after editing)
   2. Make it possible to customize swipe action functions.

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[MLO] [IDEA] [ANDROID] SEARCH & TEXT FILTER > Show recent text strings

[Radek Pilich]

It might be quite handy if search and text filter fields showed up a 
rollout with history of recent searches / filter text strings.

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[MLO] [IDEA] [ANDROID] FILTER BY CONTEXT > Negative / not in condition

[Radek Pilich]

Consider adding new functionality into ad-hoc context filter - negative / 
not in condition...

... so that it is possible to easily reduce the list by excluding items 
with specified context(s).

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[MLO] [IDEA] FORMATTING > Presets

[Radek Pilich]

Consider adding possibility to set multiple (at least 5-10) custom 
formatting preset configurations.

So when going into formatting section of a task there would be:

   - Preset 1 (tap to select / apply)
   - Preset 2 ...
   - Preset 3 ...
   - Add new formatting preset (opens custom formatting preset creation 
   screen)
   - Custom formatting (current as is toggle that expands custom formatting 
   for the active task)


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[MLO] [DISCUSSION] TIME REQUIRED - min and max values vs. min-to-max list

[Radek Pilich]

I'm just curious - do people use the time required dimension?

I would like to use it, but it's too much hassle.

I would use it, if it worked the same way as importance / urgency / effort 
dimensions.

Right now, my workaround is using tags as a replacement for time dimension.

What's your situation?

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[MLO] [IDEA] [ANDROID] APPEARANCE > Appearance profiles and cycle button

[Radek Pilich]

I would like to have three or so appearance profiles and toggle cycle 
between them.

Similarly to how show / hide completed tasks button works, I would like to 
have a button to cycle through my appearance profiles, i.e. one with 
compact list only with titles and due dates, one with notes and multi row 
titles, etc.

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[MLO] Re: Filter by Day Name (Monday, Tuesday, etc)

[Radek Pilich]

I like your idea with D+x day lists! Thanks for sharing, I am gonna try to 
use that :)

On Saturday, 30 April 2022 at 12:11:51 UTC+2 patricio...@gmail.com wrote:

> thanks Stéphane! always providing an answer, super appreciated!
>
> I'm trying to mimic a calendar view, I'm finding really helpful to have a 
> tab for each day of the week showing what tasks I have assigned to each 
> day, gives me a rapid visual understanding on if I'm realistic on what I'm 
> planning and also an order to execute stuff. 
>
> I know and agree that I can do a grouping by day but for some reason it's 
> not quiet the same as going to a tab and directly seeing what has been 
> scheduled/target for that day. Since I couldn't find a way to filter by 
> 'Monday', 'Tuesday', etc for now I'm just doing a filter by today, today+1, 
> today+2 on each tab, but that means tabs w/o day names or setting day name 
> to one or two tabs (so I have a visual reference) and then updating the tab 
> names for those days every day...
>
> I also know I could rely on syncing up with Google Calendar, but again 
> it's not quiet the same as I lose the ability to use all the filters that 
> MLO app provides...
>
> Probably a simple (?) enhancement request to consider for the future: 
> Ability to filter dates by day name. @*Andrey Tkachuk :-)*
>
> Patricio.
>
>
> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 12:34:09 PM UTC-3 Stéph wrote:
>
>> You've got me there - The filters can do amazing stuff, if you dive into 
>> the advanced filter logic, but I can't think of a way of extracting day 
>> names. The closest I can get is selecting to group by date, which shows any 
>> entries over the coming week with the day name coded into each group title 
>> - but I take it that's not really what you're looking for.
>>
>> The only other thing I can suggest, if you want certain weekly repeating 
>> actions to be shown by the day of the week on which you want to do them, is 
>> to use contexts, flags or text tags to assign a weekday to each task - 
>> however, that won't automate and keep the day name consistent with any date 
>> changes you make.
>>
>> Stéphane
>>
>> On Thursday, 28 April 2022 at 14:44:41 UTC+1 patricio...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Just in case, I'm referring to filter date fields (e.g. due date) by day 
>>> name.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 3:36:23 AM UTC-3 Patricio Carranza wrote:
>>>
 hi guys!

 is there any way to filter tasks by day name? (Monday, Tuesday, 
 Wednesday, etc)...

 thanks!

>>>

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[MLO] Re: Adding tasks from widget doesn't save last folder.

[Radek Pilich]

+1 to this

The add task button on widgets is kinda useless if it cannot be configured 
and always opens the general dialogue.

Also, similarly to app shortcuts, it would be great if the actions in the 
widget's context menu could be customized beyond the currently available 
there types of adding a new task.

On Thursday, 20 January 2022 at 18:09:06 UTC+1 packe...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have two widgets on my screen:
>
> 1: Shopping - list filtered by the context "shopping" applied by the 
> shopping folder.
> 2: Inbox - general tasks
>
> Both widgets have a [+] to add tasks but the + defaults always to  
> which makes it cumbersome to always have to select the shopping folder on 
> my shopping list.  It seems like each widget could probably remember the 
> last folder selected. 
>
> This change could benefit many different configurations - provided the 
> other issue with contexts not being applied to tasks added to folders 
> through a widget is resolved.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MLO] Re: MLO-Win v6 Ideas...

[Radek Pilich]

@Heinz Why don't you use one type of flag or a start icon to mark the tasks 
you are currently working on? Won't that do for you what you are looking 
for?

On Friday, 27 May 2022 at 09:06:14 UTC+2 Heinz wrote:

> I have been working with MLO for many years now.
> My thoughts (mainly) about the desktop version.
>
> *I love* MLO for my task planning.
> It is a very versatile planning tool and task organizer.
> I love the flawless synchronization across all my devices. 
> I love the different ways of adding tasks to my inbox (task-by-email, Siri 
> reminders, ...)
>
> *I can live* with MLO for my todo lists.
> I managed to set up a reasonable overview about my upcoming tasks, using 
> workspaces, views, filters and sorting.
> My standard view "My Day" shows technically all I need, but it is neither 
> a nice nor a motivating user interface. 
> A more attractive wrapping around a list of undone tasks wouldn't hurt :-)
>
> *I am lost* with MLO when "Doing" things.
> For the tasks I have to do on my computer I would wish MLO could support 
> me more in focusing at the current task.
> Maybe the next evolution step of the "Zoom" function?
> My idea would be something like an always-on-top vertical task bar/window, 
> showing 
>
>- the task I am working on 
>- the time I have been spending on this task including an alarm  
>(pomodoro technique) 
>- a plain notes field for quickly putting down ideas, next steps or 
>links without diverting my focus to a separate tool.
>
> Today I try to bridge this gap by using a desktop notes program in 
> parallel, but I have to copy my notes back and forth to MLO.
>
> blandoca...@gmail.com schrieb am Donnerstag, 26. Mai 2022 um 17:23:08 
> UTC+2:
>
>>
>> The only thing that i miss in MLO is a sort of drag and drop task to 
>> schedule them in a calendar view in the same manner of google task/ google 
>> calendar or Microsoft to do/Outlook calendar
>>
>> Is very handy for week planning and instead of a list of number you can 
>> easily visually see correlation between planned task/event and the time 
>> that they "fill"
>>
>> I would like to see also a "day remaining counter" in columnsi know 
>> is already possible to see them moving mouse over due date, but a dedicated 
>> column would be great to see them all at a glance
>>
>> Thanks!!
>> On Tuesday, 24 May 2022 at 20:54:45 UTC+2 daniel wrote:
>>
>>> THIS!
>>>
>>> So many times I think I must have missed the click, only to then find I 
>>> did occurrences into the future
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 12:49 PM imajeff  wrote:
>>>
 A relatively simple improvement is to make some visible indication on 
 the check box the moment you click to complete a recurring task.
 Many times especially when I was new at this, I would click the task, 
 see nothing happen, and click it again several times (it is actually 
 normal 
 for me to either have trouble with my mouse button, or operating system 
 not 
 responding).
 Slowly I realize that I have now completed furture occurrences clear 
 into next year but of course I was only trying to complete the current one!

 Please make some kind of animation to indicate the recurrence coming 
 back, or at least show the check mark for a limited time to show that it 
 acknowledged my click!  Yes I am aware that if you are watching someplace 
 else on the screen and remember what the due date said then you would see 
 a 
 change to know, but obviously that will not do for this feature request. 
 We 
 were not looking over there most of the time; just make the actual 
 checkbox 
 do something.

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Re: [MLO] [REQUEST][ANDROID] WIDGETS > CONTEXT MENU > Add UNDO action to the list

[Radek Pilich]

Thanks, I have such list as well, but only used it for a different purpose 
and didn't realize it would be helpful here.

That's definitely a list to add to app / notification shortcuts then, 
thanks again.

In any case, this is probably still a bit too much swiping and tapping.

If some intent takes more than 2-3 swipes / taps to accomplish, then it's 
frustrating to use regularly.

On Thursday, 7 July 2022 at 14:44:59 UTC+2 Dwight wrote:

> I have a view that shows all tasks that were modified in the last 48 
> hours, sorted in descending order by time modified. It's useful when I want 
> to undo something. It's better than "undo" because I can undo the 
> penultimate thing I did without having to redo the last thing I did. It's 
> also useful when an item I'm working on vanishes. For example, working in a 
> view sorted by context I decide to change the context and due date for a 
> task. If I change the context first, the task will vanish because it no 
> longer p[asses the filter. To finish changing the date I have to find the 
> task. Easy, it's at the top of the recently-changed view
> On 7/7/2022 03:06, Radek Pilich wrote:
>
> Please consider adding UNDO action to the list of actions in the context 
> menu of the widgets. 
>
> It's a regular occurrence that I accidentally tap complete a wrong task 
> and need to undo that action.
>
> I believe that it sometimes worked for me to go into the application and 
> use the UNDO function there, but right now, probably due to the way how I 
> combine views and workspaces or something, even this workaround is not 
> working and there is no way how to UNDO the task (besides knowing what task 
> did I complete and finding it through search).
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Re: [MLO] [REQUEST] CONTEXTS > SHOW IN > New setting - Show in props line

[Radek Pilich]

The following is besides the original point of the request.

I don't like how tags are implemented.

They are fine for putting a single tag on a task.

But the way it creates "combined" tag when putting more than one tag on a 
task renders it unusable for me.

I can't even imagine what your suggestion would mean in my system.

On Thursday, 7 July 2022 at 14:51:28 UTC+2 Dwight wrote:

> If you used tags instead of contexts for the filtering would the problem 
> go away?
> On 7/7/2022 05:49, Radek Pilich wrote:
>
> Consider adding new setting to the context items - Show in props line. 
>
> Right now, ALL assigned context appear in the props line, which makes the 
> feature of showing contexts in the props line pretty much useless if using 
> more than 2-3 contexts for a single task.
>
> I use multiple context "sub-groups", but most of them are used to separate 
> tasks into views, turning a particular view into particular context(s) 
> configuration. 
>
> However there are some contexts, that are not used for filtering and that 
> I would like to see in the props line.
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Re: [MLO] [REQUEST] CONTEXTS > SHOW IN > New setting - Show in props line

[Radek Pilich]

The problem is simple:
- lets say I have 30 contexts
- lets say typical task has more than 5 contexts

In this scenario, showing contexts in the props line is pretty useless, 
because it's too much information.

However If I could define, what contexts show up in the props line, only 1 
or 2 out of 5+ contexts of a given task would show up in the props line.

That would make the props line useful.

Right now, as too many contexts are shown in the props line, I have to turn 
off the display of contexts in the props line.

I hope it's clearer now.

On Sunday, 10 July 2022 at 14:40:08 UTC+2 Dwight wrote:

> I'm not clear on what the issue is, so let me be a little more specific 
> about what I am proposing.
>
> You have some contexts that are not used for filtering and that you would 
> like to see in the task list. Let's suppose that some examples are @call, 
> @email, @spreadsheet, @camera
>
> You have some other contexts that are used for filtering. Some tasks have 
> multiples of these contexts.
>
> Lets suppose that these filterable contexts include colour names like #red 
> #purple #blue
> size like *small, *medium, *large
> direction like ^North, ^Northeast, ^East
>
> Suppose that you have a large blue Northern spreadsheet. You would define 
> the context as @Spreadsheet and the text tag as the text string "*large, 
> #blue, ^North".
>
> Now, if you want to see all the blue items and no items that are not blue 
> you would add the following filter to your view:
> AND (TEXTTAG Contains 'blue')
> and you should get the blue items. The fact that there are other things in 
> the text tag do not seem troubling to me, why do you consider this to be 
> unusable?
>
> I can think of two issues
>
> 1. You have mentioned elsewhere that you are talking about ad-hoc and not 
> saved views. I am guessing that you mean that you do not want to use 
> advanced settings. (I often use advanced settings creating an ad hoc view, 
> I just do not save the filter.) Anyhow, you can type the word blue into the 
> "text" quickfilter box in the left sidebar and select "texttag" in the 
> following dropdown to get the same effect. You may need to uncheck other 
> items in the dropdown.
>
> 2. You cannot group or sort tasks according to a substring from the 
> texttag, only by the entire texttag string. If you must have  sorting or 
> grouping by an attribute that cannot appear on the props line then I have 
> no solution for you.
> On 7/7/2022 09:35, Radek Pilich wrote:
>
> The following is besides the original point of the request.
>
> I don't like how tags are implemented. 
>
> They are fine for putting a single tag on a task.
>
> But the way it creates "combined" tag when putting more than one tag on a 
> task renders it unusable for me.
>
> I can't even imagine what your suggestion would mean in my system.
>
> On Thursday, 7 July 2022 at 14:51:28 UTC+2 Dwight wrote:
>
>> If you used tags instead of contexts for the filtering would the problem 
>> go away?
>> On 7/7/2022 05:49, Radek Pilich wrote:
>>
>> Consider adding new setting to the context items - Show in props line. 
>>
>> Right now, ALL assigned context appear in the props line, which makes the 
>> feature of showing contexts in the props line pretty much useless if using 
>> more than 2-3 contexts for a single task.
>>
>> I use multiple context "sub-groups", but most of them are used to 
>> separate tasks into views, turning a particular view into particular 
>> context(s) configuration. 
>>
>> However there are some contexts, that are not used for filtering and that 
>> I would like to see in the props line.
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Re: [MLO] [IDEA] REMINDERS > Overdue reminders

[Radek Pilich]

WOW, nice, that didn't occur to me.
It really works that ways it seems, perfect!
Thanks Michael!

On Monday, 11 July 2022 at 15:35:28 UTC+2 westpo...@yahoo.com wrote:

> I “think” you can?
>
>  
>
> I believe that the way reminders work is this: if you set the reminder 
> manually to be 3 days after the due date, the reminder will always be 3 
> days after the due date, even if it recurs.
>
>  
>
> You may be saying something else; e.g., that there should be a default 
> reminder that you can set to remind you when any task is 3 days overdue.  
>
>  
>
> Take Care,
>
>  
>
> *Michael Emerald, CFA*
>
>  
>
> *Performance Business Design*
>
> Owner, Business Strategy Consultant
>
>  
>
> *From:* mylifeo...@googlegroups.com  *On 
> Behalf Of *Radek Pilich
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 7, 2022 05:19
> *To:* MyLifeOrganized 
> *Subject:* [MLO] [IDEA] REMINDERS > Overdue reminders
>
>  
>
> I would like to have reminders based on the overdue time of a given task.
>
> I.e. - I would set a reminder, that reminds me when a given task is 3 days 
> overdue.
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[MLO] Re: [REQUEST][ANDROID] MOVE TASK > recently used for move : Configure the number of "recently used for move" tasks displayed when moving task

[Radek Pilich]

Yes, I concur, this is menu is also one of my small pain points. 
In my case, I'm referring to the "New task in" menu.

Furthermore (although this deserves a new separate feature suggestion), why 
does this menu not use formatting at all? 
It would be helpful to use formatting to visually distinguish various types 
of inbox destinations and consequently be able to find the correct 
individual inbox faster in the lists.
Or scratch that, just add the same "search filter" feature that is used for 
"search all tasks" to the "New task in" menu.

On Sunday, 17 July 2022 at 23:49:29 UTC+2 thier...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Andoid MLO4, would it be possible to configure the number of "recently 
> used for move" tasks displayed when moving task.
>
> Currently, the list is *limited to 5 tasks *which is *not enought*.
>
> Thank you
>

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[MLO] HELP NEEDED: How select "next todos" from a list of recurring tasks?

[Radek Pilich]

I don't know how to select a couple of tasks to work on next from a list of 
recurring tasks.

It's easy to use flags for this with non-recurring tasks, as once the task 
is completed, the assigned flag doesn't matter that much. The same goes for 
using the starred function for this.

However that's not true with recurring tasks, as the currently assigned 
flag / star will stay with the task even for next recurrance, which is not 
wanted in this case, as in time of next recurrance I want to do the 
prioritization from the tasks default state rather than from the "selected 
todo" state.

This bothers me a lot. MLOv4 on Android is pretty much the definitive 
solution to allow me have my life activities organized and handled. I have 
migrated all the habits and tasks into it, created contexts, tags, views, 
inboxes. dozens and dozens of hours of work. Everything is pretty solid.

This one fatal flaw however makes it not easily possible to do daily 
tactical prioritization and take action on recurring tasks. Which again 
makes me inescapably overwhelmed by the system and therefore much less 
effective than I would be if it was simple to put a few tasks into the 
"actions for next few dozens of hours" bucket by tapping on them in the 
widgets.

Any advice / ideas on how to deal with this?

I already use flags for more static / long term prioritization, although 
there is always possibility for additional flag for the "actions for next 
few dozens of hours" list, the problem is, that every task should have a 
flag assigned, so this next action flag would have to work as temporary 
override of the standard flag.

Similarly, I already use stars for "arming" tasks to be worked on, i.e. I 
might have a habit of riding a bike every 15 days, which will be starred 
during march - october, but in november - febuary, I will take the star off.

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[MLO] Re: HELP NEEDED: How select "next todos" from a list of recurring tasks?

[Radek Pilich]

Oh, and one important thing...

...thinking about it now - it's clear to me, that I will have to use stars 
for this, and dedicate some maintenance time to remove the stars from 
recently completed recurring tasks...

...which is where the second part of the problem with handling reccuring 
tasks comes - reccuring tasks with recently completed reccurance don't show 
up on the recently completed list! 

They only show on the recently modified list, where they are mixed together 
with all other modifications to the tasks, so it is not possible to simply 
select the recently completed tasks from that list either.

Anyways, I will test drive this and see how it goes. As I generally tackle 
tasks only once they are past due, it might be possible to filter out 
recurring tasks with future due date and unstar those.

On Monday, 18 July 2022 at 20:01:06 UTC+2 Radek Pilich wrote:

> I don't know how to select a couple of tasks to work on next from a list 
> of recurring tasks.
>
> It's easy to use flags for this with non-recurring tasks, as once the task 
> is completed, the assigned flag doesn't matter that much. The same goes for 
> using the starred function for this.
>
> However that's not true with recurring tasks, as the currently assigned 
> flag / star will stay with the task even for next recurrance, which is not 
> wanted in this case, as in time of next recurrance I want to do the 
> prioritization from the tasks default state rather than from the "selected 
> todo" state.
>
> This bothers me a lot. MLOv4 on Android is pretty much the definitive 
> solution to allow me have my life activities organized and handled. I have 
> migrated all the habits and tasks into it, created contexts, tags, views, 
> inboxes. dozens and dozens of hours of work. Everything is pretty solid.
>
> This one fatal flaw however makes it not easily possible to do daily 
> tactical prioritization and take action on recurring tasks. Which again 
> makes me inescapably overwhelmed by the system and therefore much less 
> effective than I would be if it was simple to put a few tasks into the 
> "actions for next few dozens of hours" bucket by tapping on them in the 
> widgets.
>
> Any advice / ideas on how to deal with this?
>
> I already use flags for more static / long term prioritization, although 
> there is always possibility for additional flag for the "actions for next 
> few dozens of hours" list, the problem is, that every task should have a 
> flag assigned, so this next action flag would have to work as temporary 
> override of the standard flag.
>
> Similarly, I already use stars for "arming" tasks to be worked on, i.e. I 
> might have a habit of riding a bike every 15 days, which will be starred 
> during march - october, but in november - febuary, I will take the star off.
>
>

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[MLO] Re: HELP NEEDED: How select "next todos" from a list of recurring tasks?

[Radek Pilich]

I think the solution for the problem above is a simple new functionality:

*[FEATURE REQUEST] Advanced recurrence - toggles to remove star / flag with 
task completion*

In the *advanced options for recurrence*, there is a toggle switch for a 
*completed 
copy*.

I propose there should be *two additional toggle switches* added next to it:
- *remove star* - removes star from the task when an occurrence is completed
- *remove flag* - removes flag from the task when an occurrence is completed

All these three toggles should be independent.

The remove star / flag functionality should remove the star / flag only 
form the "live task", meaning when combined with completed copy enabled, 
the completed copy will remain starred / flagged and only the next 
recurrence will have the star / flag cleared.
This is not important for my use case in any way, it's just that it makes 
more sense this way then also resetting the completed copy and it also 
makes the new feature backwards compatible with existing custom views etc.

Please please please MLO team, I think this makes sense, is clearly / 
logically needed and might not be that hard to implement I imagine.

R.

On Wednesday, 20 July 2022 at 10:15:08 UTC+2 Radek Pilich wrote:

> Oh, and one important thing...
>
> ...thinking about it now - it's clear to me, that I will have to use stars 
> for this, and dedicate some maintenance time to remove the stars from 
> recently completed recurring tasks...
>
> ...which is where the second part of the problem with handling reccuring 
> tasks comes - reccuring tasks with recently completed reccurance don't show 
> up on the recently completed list! 
>
> They only show on the recently modified list, where they are mixed 
> together with all other modifications to the tasks, so it is not possible 
> to simply select the recently completed tasks from that list either.
>
> Anyways, I will test drive this and see how it goes. As I generally tackle 
> tasks only once they are past due, it might be possible to filter out 
> recurring tasks with future due date and unstar those.
>
> On Monday, 18 July 2022 at 20:01:06 UTC+2 Radek Pilich wrote:
>
>> I don't know how to select a couple of tasks to work on next from a list 
>> of recurring tasks.
>>
>> It's easy to use flags for this with non-recurring tasks, as once the 
>> task is completed, the assigned flag doesn't matter that much. The same 
>> goes for using the starred function for this.
>>
>> However that's not true with recurring tasks, as the currently assigned 
>> flag / star will stay with the task even for next recurrance, which is not 
>> wanted in this case, as in time of next recurrance I want to do the 
>> prioritization from the tasks default state rather than from the "selected 
>> todo" state.
>>
>> This bothers me a lot. MLOv4 on Android is pretty much the definitive 
>> solution to allow me have my life activities organized and handled. I have 
>> migrated all the habits and tasks into it, created contexts, tags, views, 
>> inboxes. dozens and dozens of hours of work. Everything is pretty solid.
>>
>> This one fatal flaw however makes it not easily possible to do daily 
>> tactical prioritization and take action on recurring tasks. Which again 
>> makes me inescapably overwhelmed by the system and therefore much less 
>> effective than I would be if it was simple to put a few tasks into the 
>> "actions for next few dozens of hours" bucket by tapping on them in the 
>> widgets.
>>
>> Any advice / ideas on how to deal with this?
>>
>> I already use flags for more static / long term prioritization, although 
>> there is always possibility for additional flag for the "actions for next 
>> few dozens of hours" list, the problem is, that every task should have a 
>> flag assigned, so this next action flag would have to work as temporary 
>> override of the standard flag.
>>
>> Similarly, I already use stars for "arming" tasks to be worked on, i.e. I 
>> might have a habit of riding a bike every 15 days, which will be starred 
>> during march - october, but in november - febuary, I will take the star off.
>>
>>

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[MLO] What is a good use for custom formatting?

[Radek Pilich]

What do you use it for?

I'm using MLO on Android only. I'm not sure yet, what to use custom 
formatting for. Automated formatting that's available on PC would be 
useful, but that's not available on Android. So I am looking for manual 
labelling with custom formatting only. I've put some Tasker automation 
together to easily format tasks with predefined custom formatting presets 
via one or two taps. I'm just not completely sure yet, what "dimension" am 
I missing that could be added with via formatting.

Thanks.

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[MLO] Re: What is a good use for custom formatting?

[Radek Pilich]

OK, so what I came with over weekend is sort of "emotional / life" category 
- essentials, comfort needs, likes, rewards, wants/goals. Of course not 
every task is formatted, only those where triggering this emotional 
correlate is important for for execution and where this execution needs 
this sort of help.

Too bad it's not possible to non-destructively multiple edit formatting of 
multiple tasks - i.e. I use highlight and / or font color for the above, it 
could be useful if I could also add font style (bold, underline) to this 
via multi-edit without clearing the existing formattting.

On Friday, 29 July 2022 at 11:35:21 UTC+2 Radek Pilich wrote:

> What do you use it for?
>
> I'm using MLO on Android only. I'm not sure yet, what to use custom 
> formatting for. Automated formatting that's available on PC would be 
> useful, but that's not available on Android. So I am looking for manual 
> labelling with custom formatting only. I've put some Tasker automation 
> together to easily format tasks with predefined custom formatting presets 
> via one or two taps. I'm just not completely sure yet, what "dimension" am 
> I missing that could be added with via formatting.
>
> Thanks.
>

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[MLO] Workspaces x Lists combinatory behavior - bug or feature?

[Radek Pilich]

I am wondering if this is a bug or feature and why it works like this 
rather than what I would expect.

I'm on Android and interacting with / entering workspaces via widgets (but 
I just tested it and it works the same within the app).

What I initially though, that I will set up a workspace with certain 
filters, and then every time I open ANY list in that workspace, it will be 
filtered by those filters.

However it doesn't work like that.

Instead, workspaces and lists are permutated together, meaning that every 
lists has it's own instance of the given workspace, and that when I set up 
filters for Workspace A for the List A, I have to do the same for the list 
B, C, D, E, F, G.

This makes me crazy and frustrated. 

How does this make sense? Why doesn't the setup of a given workspace stay 
in place throughout list changes?

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[MLO] Re: View by Context with Folders?

[Radek Pilich]

it's not possible to do multi-level grouping, i.e. first context and then 
folder. You can split them into multiple views - i.e. one view for each 
client with grouping by folders.

If you don't want something to appear, you can use conditions - i.e. 
context = does exist, parent = is not empty, has subtasks = false etc. 
familiarize yourself with conditions and their effects on the filtering.

On Sunday, 7 August 2022 at 03:12:05 UTC+2 Gary Petro wrote:

> I have set up all my Clients as Contexts. (I looked at using a Text Tag 
> but not sure that would work as well, or easily. A custom field would be so 
> nice right now.)
>
> I created 3 folders; To-Do, Recurring, Someday.
>
> I put a couple of tasks in each of the folders, each with a different 
> context.
>
> I created a new view of "By Client" with a "Group By" of Context.
>
> I don't see what I expect, I get a first grouping of "Context: (none)" 
> with each folder appearing there - I do not get any grouping by Context; 
> unless I add a task outside of a folder. If I select the "Active by 
> Context" view, I can clearly see them all here, properly grouped.
>
> I do not understand why I cannot see each Context with a set of Folders 
> under it so to have:
>
>- Context 1
>   - To-Do
>  - Task
>   - Recurring
>   - Someday
>  - Task
>   - Context 2
>   - To-Do
>  - Task
>   - Recurring
>  - Task
>   - Someday
>
> I want a way to see a list of tasks by Client grouped by Folder.
> Perhaps I am using the wrong hierarchy?
>
> Thanks.
> Gary
>

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[MLO] Re: How to create custom formatting rules on Android

[Radek Pilich]

The workaround is to filter out given context in the list, then multiselect 
all tasks, then change formatting of all tasks at once. Obviously, you have 
to do this manual maintenance once in a while to format newly added tasks.

On Wednesday, 24 August 2022 at 15:25:00 UTC+2 T C wrote:

> I would like to modify background and font of tasks based on contexts
> How can I do that on Android ? If I create a custom formatting rule on pc, 
> will it be synced to Android ?  Thank you for your help
>

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Re: [MLO] A Geeks Guide to Context Hours in MLO-Android 3 (Re: OpenHours in Tasks.csv)

[Radek Pilich]

It is now possible to edit Open Hours on Android, yeeaaah! 

On Sunday, 20 March 2022 at 12:21:17 UTC+1 Radek Pilich wrote:

>
> Is this still valid for v4?
> On Saturday, 12 October 2019 at 21:32:48 UTC+2 imajeff wrote:
>
>> Thanks we need more like that, and an easy way to find the one we need at 
>> the moment
>>
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>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 1:25 PM 'AndroidOnlyGTD' via MyLifeOrganized <
>> mylifeo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 
>>>>
>>>> ##  A Geeks Guide to Context Hours in MLO-Android 3
>>>>
>>>> #
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 1) Abstract
>>>>
>>>> 2) Format Description
>>>>
>>>> 3) Step by Step Instructions
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> ##  1) Abstract
>>>>
>>>> #  aka: Why I spent 8 hours reverse engineering a MLOBAK of 
>>>>> wine-exported MLT template =)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> My Life Organized is GTD style task management application for 
>>>>> Windows, Android and iOS.
>>>>
>>>> The Android version of MyLifeOrganized v 3.2.3 lacks any functionality 
>>>>> for editing "Context Hours" directly.
>>>>
>>>> This document describes a workaround for setting up "Context Hours" on 
>>>>> standalone Android,
>>>>
>>>> by manually calculating and injecting a hexadecimal string into a 
>>>>> csv-based MLO-Android backup file.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> ##  2) Format Description
>>>>
>>>> #  see also: MLT-ContextHours-ReverseEngineer.png
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> This section describes the opening hours of a fictional context 
>>>>> @OfficeSpace,
>>>>
>>>> which are Mondays to Fridays 08:15 - 12:15 and and 12:45 - 16:45.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> MLO Android v3.2.3 provides a backup/restore functionality for 
>>>>> exporting/importing a "*.mlobak" file.
>>>>
>>>> This is a simple ZIP file, which contains two files: "tasks.csv" and 
>>>>> "views.xml".
>>>>
>>>> The "tasks.csv" file contains - amongst other things - context 
>>>>> definitions within a "[Places]" section.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The "[Places]" format is defined as:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>> UID,Caption,HideFromTodo,HideFromItemProps,OpenHours,Note,Latitude,Longitude,Radius,NotifyWhenArrive,NotifyWhenLeave
>>>>
>>>> It looks like this:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>> {AC6CC3D8-FB3D-4929-AB4B-80C9EDA62F13},@OfficeSpace,0,0,800060001FFF800060001FFF800060001FFF800060001FFF800060001FFF,0,0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The "OpenHours" field has a fixed length of 168 hexadecimal 
>>>>> characters, one for each hour of the week (7*24=168):
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> 800060001FFF
>>>>
>>>> 800060001FFF
>>>>
>>>> 800060001FFF
>>>>
>>>> 800060001FFF
>>>>
>>>> 800060001FFF
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> The week starts on sunday at 00:00, thus character 32 corresponds to 
>>>> monday 08:00-09:00.
>>>> Each hour is devided into 4 intervals of 15 minutes each: 
>>>> 00-15,15-30,30-45,45-60
>>>>
>>>> There are 16 states per hour (4*4), wich are defined as (O=Open, 
>>>> c=closed):
>>>> HexChar  0123456789   

[MLO] [REQUEST] CONTEXTS > Properties > New setting - Don't copy to children

[Radek Pilich]

Right now all contexts from a parent are copied to a child a task.
Depending on the users use of contexts and hierarchies, this might often be 
partially undesirable.
Therefore for some subsets of contexts, it might be preferable to not copy 
those contexts to the children.
Therefore a setting for copying or not copying given context to children 
tasks should be a property of each individual context.

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[MLO] [REQUEST] FLAGS > More flag colors on Android

[Radek Pilich]

Could the *amount of available flag colors be doubled or tripled on Android*
?

Seven flag colors is not enough for me personally and it's not workable to 
use one color for more flags from user standpoint, especially not right 
now, when the flag selector doesn't show currently assigned flag (!).

So that's let's make that a second part of the request - *highlight current 
flag in the flag selector when changing flags from the outline*.

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[MLO] Re: [REQUEST] [ANDROID] TOOLBAR SETTING > Allow full customization of toolbar items

[Radek Pilich]

And one more thing - Why are expand / collapse outline separate buttons 
rather then one button? 

One button would save space and make the workflow easier. 

The expand / collapse buttons only work on the whole outline, not on the 
separate selected branches, so two buttons seem to be unnecessary. 

On Thursday, 7 July 2022 at 11:55:09 UTC+2 Radek Pilich wrote:

> Consider allowing full customization of toolbar items in toolbar settings.
>
> Right now, it is not possible to get rid of first four items - add task, 
> add subtask, show / hide completed, navigation button. 
>
> With the exception of the navigation button, I pretty much never use the 
> first three buttons.
>
> I would like to get rid off them in order to add additional buttons to the 
> toolbar I actually use,  which I have to access right now via the secondary 
> context menu.
>

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[MLO] [ANDROID] Any way to batch add new context to multiple tasks

[Radek Pilich]

Is there any way to add one single context to multi-selection of task 
without overwriting (loosing) existing contexts or having to add the new 
context manually to each single task?

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[MLO] Re: [ANDROID] Any way to batch add new context to multiple tasks

[Radek Pilich]

Oh, I think I got it... I was hesitant to do it via Tasker and having to 
deal with scrolling the task list, but now I realized that  can actually 
setup the MLO view so that the task disappears from the list after the new 
desired context is added. so I will just script a simple AutoInput 
sequence that keeps adding the desired context to the task at the first 
position of the list and loop it like 400 times :D

On Wednesday, 15 March 2023 at 16:25:26 UTC+1 Radek Pilich wrote:

> Is there any way to add one single context to multi-selection of task 
> without overwriting (loosing) existing contexts or having to add the new 
> context manually to each single task?

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[MLO] Request - new Android workspace filters - goal & star

[Radek Pilich]

I understand that not every attribute can be easily turned into user 
friendly filter. However I don't understand why it is not possible to 
filter by starred / unstarred / both  and / or the four types of goals. 
This could work identically to the flag / context filtering. Anyone else 
who would find this useful?

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[MLO] Re: [IDEA] [ANDROID] WIDGETS > Widget header button to show/hide star/flag

[Radek Pilich]

First of all, thanks for continuation of android development - it's always 
like Christmas when new update arrives :)

The recent option to minimize / remove widget header is very welcomed, 
those big headers were taking too much of screen real estate.

Please allow me to reiterate the widget development idea above even 
though I don't really care about that one anymore.

Instead, I would like to add another one, long outstanding:

*Please add widget option to always show a button to open the app (widget's 
view and workspace) in place of showing the add task button.*

The current situation is quite odd to be honest - it is not possible to 
enter the app from widget via single click, unless the widget is almost 
double width than otherwise necessary.

This is quite frustrating, as I believe that this is very common action to 
use, in my case much more common than adding new task via the widget button.

Which brings me to another idea...

...in light of current extensions of the add task dialogue, it would be 
really useful for me if:

*- it was possible set up the add task shortcuts with properties such as 
context, flag, star and all the other parameters that are part of the new 
task dialogue*
*- it was possible to set up the add task button for each widget in similar 
manner*

I hope it makes sense .That's all for now. Thanks.



On Thursday, 7 July 2022 at 10:47:43 UTC+2 Radek Pilich wrote:

> It would help my workflow immensely if there was a button in the widget 
> header, that would toggle / cycle between:
>
> - show stars
> - show flags
> - show stars & flags
> - hide stars & flags
>

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[MLO] Re: Best way to create a good Workflow, first and most important to suit the Android-version and secondly on Computer

[Radek Pilich]

Yep, views & widgets are my "client facing"  MLO interface. Now waiting 
patiently for Nova Launcher to integrate "swipeable" widgets, so that I can 
setup multiple MLO widgets on a footprint of a single widget and cycle 
between them with left/right swiping 🤓

On Thursday, 25 May 2023 at 12:56:49 UTC+2 A. W. wrote:

> Was not aware of the plugin. Seems kind of complicated. I assume i solved 
> this by smart view constructions to control the dynamics.
> -
> i think the basic structure is probably the similar - somehow devide and 
> conquer related to the main buckets one cares about.
> The interesting peace is how to use various views to control the dynamics 
> and the separation of various concerns like:
> - what is running ok and not-ok
> - what to focus on next
> - how to integrate linking to other repositories
> And especially the decision supporting views about where to focus on next 
> and how to manage the activities in the various time spans - like day, 
> week, month...
> -
> In summary how to control the flow by the right views and filters
> Thats where for me the magic of MLO comes in. I did not find any tool 
> which would be as thought through in the details as MLO.
> Which was recently upgraded by the "dashboards" which in my view a 
> View-Mgmt-Feature is ;).
> -a
> PS - side note to MLO team : the only missing detail is some more details 
> in the grouping ability of time related groupings ;)
>
> Radek Pilich schrieb am Donnerstag, 25. Mai 2023 um 12:30:18 UTC+2:
>
>> The structure you propose is pretty much same as mine.
>>
>> I have t-10 top level "life area" folders, than under each there are some 
>> inbox / project / sub-area folders for non-recurring tasks (I have launcher 
>> shortcuts created to send new tasks into them) and below that is a section 
>> of recurring tasks / habits grouped under some parent that somehow makes 
>> sense to me as a conceptual bucket to fit those tasks into.
>>
>>
>> [image: 
>> Screenshot_2023-05-25-12-21-40-03_2766e1764d774df27a406d6982d0ccfa.jpg] 
>> [image: 
>> Screenshot_2023-05-25-12-23-43-84_2766e1764d774df27a406d6982d0ccfa.jpg]
>> On Tuesday, 23 May 2023 at 18:02:32 UTC+2 Benny Karlson wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> have used MLO for many years, mainly on my Android (before that Windows 
>>> phone), but always together with the PC-version. I have realized that  
>>> after all development and new features my workflow seems not to work 
>>> efficiently with all these new possibilities.
>>> Does anyone built a working workflow to handle a lot of tasks in 
>>> different areas and places? Guess is about how to most efficient build your 
>>> tree structure
>>> and then when to use Context when to use Flags or Texttags!?
>>>
>>> Want a quick and easy input (one click) with as many things applied 
>>> automaticly (as context will do if copied in under a treebranch). This 
>>> means the tree folder structure... 
>>>
>>> A simple question of what you would choose...
>>> Different Actions...  Different places...
>>> !Call @Computer
>>> !Buy for   @House 1
>>> !Fetch  @$hopA , $hopB
>>> !Contact  @House2
>>> !Repair @Car1
>>>
>>> Example1 Tree folders under each place
>>> [Folder House1] - [Folder Repair] : Task1/Task2/ Task3
>>>  [House1] - [Folder Buy] : Task1/Task2/ Task3
>>>  [House1] - [Folder Call] : Task1/Task2/ Task3
>>> or
>>>
>>> Example1 Tree folders  under each action
>>> [Folder !Repair] - [Folder @House1] : Task1/Task2/ Task3
>>>  [!Repair] - [Folder@House2] : Task1/Task2/ Task3
>>>  [!Repair] - [Folder@Car1]  : Task1/Task2/ Task3
>>>
>>> Example 1 feels more naturual when follow up things done at different 
>>> places
>>>
>>> Any help would be greatly *appreciated*
>>>
>>

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[MLO] Filter conditions problem with included contexts

[Radek Pilich]

I might be hungry or not thinking. 

I cannot figure out how to set up filter conditions so that it includes 
tasks that have both parent context and included child context assigned AND 
at the same time doesn't include tasks, that have only the included child 
context assigned, without having the parent context assigned.

No matter what I try, I always get all the tasks, I cannot exclude those 
that have only the included child context.

Please help.

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[MLO] Re: Filter conditions problem with included contexts

[Radek Pilich]

Simple - let's say I have parent context "time of day" that includes 
morning, afternoon, evening contexts.

I want to list tasks, that have both time of day + morning assigned while 
also excluding tasks that have morning assigned but don't have time of day 
assigned.

How do I do that?

On Monday, 5 June 2023 at 08:42:41 UTC+2 Stéph wrote:

> Likewise, I'm struggling to understand that complex set of criteria. Are 
> you trying to find the tasks where their parent's context is missing? If 
> so, I can't find a way to do that precisely. However, you might want to 
> test from be parent's perspective by using "HasSubTasks" and "Contexts... 
> is empty" in your filter.
>
> On Saturday, 3 June 2023 at 14:48:24 UTC+1 A. W. wrote:
>
>> Hm. i think that making a step back and defining precisely what - not how 
>> - needs to be the outcome could be a reasonable next step.
>> Currently i do not get - on the what level - what the plan to achieve is.
>> If you want to discuss ;) - pick a time. sometimes explaining to somebody 
>> else solves the issue ;).
>> https://calendly.com/deugister/one-on-one-with-me 
>>
>> Radek Pilich schrieb am Dienstag, 30. Mai 2023 um 16:45:20 UTC+2:
>>
>>> I might be hungry or not thinking. 
>>>
>>> I cannot figure out how to set up filter conditions so that it includes 
>>> tasks that have both parent context and included child context assigned AND 
>>> at the same time doesn't include tasks, that have only the included child 
>>> context assigned, without having the parent context assigned.
>>>
>>> No matter what I try, I always get all the tasks, I cannot exclude those 
>>> that have only the included child context.
>>>
>>> Please help.
>>>
>>

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[MLO] CHANGE REQUEST > Increase "Past" due date group granularity

[Radek Pilich]

This might be a repeated requested, but I cannot find existing one.

*Could the Past due date group be segregated into multiple time segments?*

The current approach of grouping everything beyond last month into one past 
group eliminated extremely useful time dimension orientation information.

To keep things simple, consistent and not unnecessarily overwhelming, the 
proposed grouping below seems more functionally (cognitively) appropriate.

I propose to break down current single past group into 5 groups:

*Past (variable number of days)*

**
*Last Year (365 days)*
*This Year (variable number of days)*
*Last Quarter (90 days)*
*This Quarter (variable number of days)*

Last Month (31 days)
This Month (variable number of days)
Last Week (7 days)
This Week's Days (variable number of days)

*Are you for this? Are you against this?*

I think this would really help me a lot with motivation to get things done. 
Without it, I'm time-blind about how long it has been since I should have 
ideally have done that thing.

Mirrored grouping should also work the future timeline grouping this 
quarter, next quarter etc. But I'm not sure how that one looks like 
currently,  I generally only operate in past due date territory :D

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[MLO] Re: CHANGE REQUEST > Increase "Past" due date group granularity

[Radek Pilich]

Oh I see the problem and possibly the reason for the current approach.

What I proposed works nicely only in second, third, fourth quarter of the 
year. 

In first quarter  the grouping logic breaks down.

Which brings us back to the for surely already discussed topic of due date 
grouping being done in an absolute (calendar date) or relative (number of 
days between due date and now) fashion. 

I personally prefer the relative approach, but I am not a "calendar person" 
as majority of users probably is.

So what can we do about this in absolute approach?

Let's say it Jan 10:
-
Last Year Past (Q1-Q3 of previous year)
This Year (not showing up)
Last Quarter Past (Oct + Nov)
This Quarter Past (not showing up)
Last Month (Dec 1 - Dec 31)
This Month Past (not showing up)

Let's say it Feb 20:
-
Last Year (Q1-Q3 of previous year)
This Year (not showing up)
Last Quarter (Q4 of previous year)
This Quarter Past (not showing up)
Last Month (Jan 1 - Jan 31)
This Month Past (Feb 1 - let's say Feb 6)


So. it looks like that it would make sense to always show and separate 
the tasks from the sorted list into "Last xxx Past" groups and only show 
"This xxx Past" groups if there are task that don't fit into the last 
groups.

It might be a bit confusing that the grouping can change significantly from 
day to day, but that's an aspect of the current absolute calendar date 
grouping anyways already.

On Monday, 19 June 2023 at 11:13:05 UTC+2 Radek Pilich wrote:

> This might be a repeated requested, but I cannot find existing one.
>
> *Could the Past due date group be segregated into multiple time segments?*
>
> The current approach of grouping everything beyond last month into one 
> past group eliminated extremely useful time dimension orientation 
> information.
>
> To keep things simple, consistent and not unnecessarily overwhelming, the 
> proposed grouping below seems more functionally (cognitively) appropriate.
>
> I propose to break down current single past group into 5 groups:
>
> *Past (variable number of days)*
>
> **
> *Last Year (365 days)*
> *This Year (variable number of days)*
> *Last Quarter (90 days)*
> *This Quarter (variable number of days)*
> 
> Last Month (31 days)
> This Month (variable number of days)
> Last Week (7 days)
> This Week's Days (variable number of days)
>
> *Are you for this? Are you against this?*
>
> I think this would really help me a lot with motivation to get things 
> done. Without it, I'm time-blind about how long it has been since I should 
> have ideally have done that thing.
>
> Mirrored grouping should also work the future timeline grouping this 
> quarter, next quarter etc. But I'm not sure how that one looks like 
> currently,  I generally only operate in past due date territory :D
>

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[MLO] Re: Filter conditions problem with included contexts

[Radek Pilich]

What A.W. is showing on the screenshot doesn't obviously work, that's why I 
was asking :)

I understand that it's not clear why I use contexts in this seemingly odd 
way, so let me briefly tell you.

The reasons for having time of day parent context with morning, noon, 
afternoon, evening, night children contexts are follows:

   - the contexts are set in a way, that all the children contexts have 
   restricted open hours and the parent is opened all day
   - this allows to set all kinds of filters
  - in advanced filtering, I can simply use the parent time of day 
  context with consider open hours option, so that the views only show 
tasks 
  opened during the current part of the day
  - or I don't have to restrict it in views setup and only add 
  filtering in ad-hoc workspace filters. either for current time (via 
parent) 
  or for specific time of the day (i.e. a view that always shows morning 
  tasks)
  - it also frees additional filtering and / or enables combination of 
  filtering with multiple contexts, that wouldn't otherwise be possible
   - my context system is still developing and is still somehow overblown, 
   so I might procrastinate with settings contexts for new task. To work 
   around that, I have the parent time of day context set as a context to be 
   inherited to all subtasks from the top level folders, therefore the newly 
   created tasks show in the filtered lists as soon as possible. and 
   restricting the task to a given children timeslot is an optional next 
   step...
   - ...so as a part of my workflow, it's my responsibility to remove the 
   general technical time of day parent context and change it to some children 
   context such as evening
   - however sometimes, I obviously mess up and leave the parent context 
   assigned as well, therefore making the child context open hours restriction 
   not work as intended (the tasks shows up during all day even though I want 
   it to show only during evening)
   - therefore the filter I wanted to set up is a kind of a 
   "maintenance / administration" filter, that will list the tasks that have 
   unintentionally / accidentally assigned both the parent and child contexts, 
   so that I can remove the parent one from all of the tasks in the list
   - the problem is, that no matter what I tried, the lists also shows the 
   tasks that are already processed correctly to the point of having only the 
   child context and having parent context already removed 
   - ... which makes the maintenance of such context assignments impossible



On Wednesday, 14 June 2023 at 16:18:07 UTC+2 Stéph wrote:

> I should have thought of that. Nice one, A.W.!
>
> Like you say, I can't understand the point in this particular case, 
> because you only need to assign the specific time of day contexts for an 
> overall "time of day" filter to work. Maybe Radek's workflow involves 
> assigning "time of day" to identify those items which will need to be 
> assigned to a specific time of day, before he comes back and defines which 
> time of day each one needs to be assigned to? If so, then maybe he needs to 
> see which items he's flagged as needing a time of day, but which haven't 
> yet been assigned to a specific time of day.
>
> Maybe I'm over-thinking this, though! :-D
>
> On Wednesday, 14 June 2023 at 07:44:45 UTC+1 A. W. wrote:
>
>> what sense that has content wise i am not sure.
>> however technically you can create an advanced filter - see picture.
>> This filter does what you want - if i understood your ask. Is  basically 
>> the translation of your sentence into a formula in MLO - advanced filter.
>> Of course this filter must not conflict with any other standard filter 
>> which is active.
>> It becomes tricky if you want to use this logic to filter within the 
>> hierachy, which is possible too.
>> MLO is quite powerfull in filtering...
>> [image: MLO-1.jpg]
>>
>> Radek Pilich schrieb am Sonntag, 11. Juni 2023 um 20:24:56 UTC+2:
>>
>>> Simple - let's say I have parent context "time of day" that includes 
>>> morning, afternoon, evening contexts.
>>>
>>> I want to list tasks, that have both time of day + morning assigned 
>>> while also excluding tasks that have morning assigned but don't have time 
>>> of day assigned.
>>>
>>> How do I do that?
>>>
>>> On Monday, 5 June 2023 at 08:42:41 UTC+2 Stéph wrote:
>>>
>>>> Likewise, I'm struggling to understand that complex set of criteria. 
>>>> Are you trying to find the tasks where their parent's context is missing? 
>>>> If so, I can't find a way to do that precisely

[MLO] Re: CHANGE REQUEST > Increase "Past" due date group granularity

[Radek Pilich]

Oh I see the problem and possibly the reason for the current approach.

What I proposed works nicely only in second, third, fourth quarter of the 
year. 

In first quarter  the grouping logic breaks down.

Which brings us back to the for surely already discussed topic of due date 
grouping being done in an absolute (calendar date) or relative (number of 
days between due date and now) fashion. 

I personally prefer the relative approach, but I am not a "calendar person" 
as majority of users probably is.

So what can we do about this in absolute approach?

Let's say it Jan 10:
-
*Last Year Past (Q1-Q3 of previous year)*
This Year (not showing up)
*Last Quarter Past (Oct + Nov)*
This Quarter Past (not showing up)
*Last Month (Dec 1 - Dec 31)*
This Month Past (not showing up)

Let's say it Feb 20:
-
*Last Year (Q1-Q3 of previous year)*
This Year (not showing up)
*Last Quarter (Q4 of previous year)*
This Quarter Past (not showing up)
*Last Month (Jan 1 - Jan 31)*
*This Month Past (Feb 1 - let's say Feb 6)*


So. it looks like that it would make sense to always show and separate 
the tasks from the sorted list into "Last xxx Past" groups and only show 
"This xxx Past" groups if there are task that don't fit into the last 
groups.

It might be a bit confusing that the grouping can change significantly from 
day to day, but that's an aspect of the current absolute calendar date 
grouping anyways already.

On Monday, 19 June 2023 at 11:43:49 UTC+2 Radek Pilich wrote:

> Oh I see the problem and possibly the reason for the current approach.
>
> What I proposed works nicely only in second, third, fourth quarter of the 
> year. 
>
> In first quarter  the grouping logic breaks down.
>
> Which brings us back to the for surely already discussed topic of due date 
> grouping being done in an absolute (calendar date) or relative (number of 
> days between due date and now) fashion. 
>
> I personally prefer the relative approach, but I am not a "calendar 
> person" as majority of users probably is.
>
> So what can we do about this in absolute approach?
>
> Let's say it Jan 10:
> -
> Last Year Past (Q1-Q3 of previous year)
> This Year (not showing up)
> Last Quarter Past (Oct + Nov)
> This Quarter Past (not showing up)
> Last Month (Dec 1 - Dec 31)
> This Month Past (not showing up)
>
> Let's say it Feb 20:
> -
> Last Year (Q1-Q3 of previous year)
> This Year (not showing up)
> Last Quarter (Q4 of previous year)
> This Quarter Past (not showing up)
> Last Month (Jan 1 - Jan 31)
> This Month Past (Feb 1 - let's say Feb 6)
>
>
> So. it looks like that it would make sense to always show and separate 
> the tasks from the sorted list into "Last xxx Past" groups and only show 
> "This xxx Past" groups if there are task that don't fit into the last 
> groups.
>
> It might be a bit confusing that the grouping can change significantly 
> from day to day, but that's an aspect of the current absolute calendar date 
> grouping anyways already.
>
> On Monday, 19 June 2023 at 11:13:05 UTC+2 Radek Pilich wrote:
>
>> This might be a repeated requested, but I cannot find existing one.
>>
>> *Could the Past due date group be segregated into multiple time segments?*
>>
>> The current approach of grouping everything beyond last month into one 
>> past group eliminated extremely useful time dimension orientation 
>> information.
>>
>> To keep things simple, consistent and not unnecessarily overwhelming, the 
>> proposed grouping below seems more functionally (cognitively) appropriate.
>>
>> I propose to break down current single past group into 5 groups:
>>
>> *Past (variable number of days)*
>>
>> **
>> *Last Year (365 days)*
>> *This Year (variable number of days)*
>> *Last Quarter (90 days)*
>> *This Quarter (variable number of days)*
>> 
>> Last Month (31 days)
>> This Month (variable number of days)
>> Last Week (7 days)
>> This Week's Days (variable number of days)
>>
>> *Are you for this? Are you against this?*
>>
>> I think this would really help me a lot with motivation to get things 
>> done. Without it, I'm time-blind about how long it has been since I should 
>> have ideally have done that thing.
>>
>> Mirrored grouping should also work the future timeline grouping this 
>> quarter, next quarter etc. But I'm not sure how that one looks like 
>> currently,  I generally only operate in past due date territory :D
>>
>

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[MLO] Re: CHANGE REQUEST > Increase "Past" due date group granularity

[Radek Pilich]

Oh I see the problem and possibly the reason for the current approach.

What I proposed works nicely only in second, third, fourth quarter of the 
year. 

In first quarter  the grouping logic breaks down.

Which brings us back to the for surely already discussed topic of due date 
grouping being done in an absolute (calendar date) or relative (number of 
days between due date and now) fashion. 

I personally prefer the relative approach, but I am not a "calendar person" 
as majority of users probably is.

So what can we do about this in absolute approach?

Let's say it Jan 10:
-
*Last Year Past (Q1-Q3 of previous year)*
This Year (not showing up)
*Last Quarter Past (Oct + Nov)*
This Quarter Past (not showing up)
*Last Month (Dec 1 - Dec 31)*
This Month Past (not showing up)

Let's say it Feb 20:
-
*Last Year (Q1-Q3 of previous year)*
This Year (not showing up)
*Last Quarter (Q4 of previous year)*
This Quarter Past (not showing up)
*Last Month (Jan 1 - Jan 31)*
*This Month Past (Feb 1 - let's say Feb 6)*


So. it looks like that it would make sense to always show and separate 
the tasks from the sorted list into "Last xxx Past" groups and only show 
"This xxx Past" groups if there are task that don't fit into the last 
groups.

It might be a bit confusing that the grouping can change significantly from 
day to day, but that's an aspect of the current absolute calendar date 
grouping anyways already.

On Monday, 19 June 2023 at 11:13:05 UTC+2 Radek Pilich wrote:

> This might be a repeated requested, but I cannot find existing one.
>
> *Could the Past due date group be segregated into multiple time segments?*
>
> The current approach of grouping everything beyond last month into one 
> past group eliminated extremely useful time dimension orientation 
> information.
>
> To keep things simple, consistent and not unnecessarily overwhelming, the 
> proposed grouping below seems more functionally (cognitively) appropriate.
>
> I propose to break down current single past group into 5 groups:
>
> *Past (variable number of days)*
>
> **
> *Last Year (365 days)*
> *This Year (variable number of days)*
> *Last Quarter (90 days)*
> *This Quarter (variable number of days)*
> 
> Last Month (31 days)
> This Month (variable number of days)
> Last Week (7 days)
> This Week's Days (variable number of days)
>
> *Are you for this? Are you against this?*
>
> I think this would really help me a lot with motivation to get things 
> done. Without it, I'm time-blind about how long it has been since I should 
> have ideally have done that thing.
>
> Mirrored grouping should also work the future timeline grouping this 
> quarter, next quarter etc. But I'm not sure how that one looks like 
> currently,  I generally only operate in past due date territory :D
>

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[MLO] Re: Is there a way to filter by time required on the mobile app?

[Radek Pilich]

Only hard coded in in views conditions. For ad-hoc workspace filtering you 
have to use a workaround such as using tags for durations or using contexts 
for durations.

On Thursday, 13 July 2023 at 00:30:58 UTC+2 Craig Lindholm wrote:

> I'm looking at the min and max time required for a task but I can't see 
> anywhere in the mobile app (android) to filter.

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[MLO] Re: MLO Feature Request (more)

[Radek Pilich]

2. unfortunately, the MLO philosophy is a bit different and they view todos 
from a project perspective, as having start dates and deadlines. 
Fortunately, on Android, you can press and hold the date icon and then set 
both dates in one dialog and safe a few taps.

Regarding this, I would like to note to *@MLO team*, that the calendar view 
for quick entry of start / end dates on one screen is missing the Today 
button, which is super annoying, as it is necessary to navigate from past 
overdue dates to the present moment and / or future. Could you please add 
the today button there? I believe it has to be a bit more complicated than 
usually, so that first tap centers the view on the current month, second 
tap sets start date to today, third tap sets end date to today. In 
practice, this will be dependent on the situation, so when current month is 
already focused, the next click sets start date to today when start 
date is already set for example manually to a last Monday, the next tap 
sets end date to today. Pressing and holding the today button before start 
date is set should set both dates to today and exist the calendar dialog.

On Thursday, 1 September 2022 at 13:20:42 UTC+2 Grant wrote:

> (I forget if there is another place to more formally post these 
> suggestions, so for now, I will put them here')
>
> 1. I would like to see the google calendar sync enabled as a task option, 
> rather than using the text tag field.  Using the Tag field means you can 
> not put any other text in the field because then the sync will not be 
> recognized
>
> In other words, using the google sync feature means probably you can no 
> longer use the text tag feature at all, at least consistently.
>
> 2. Remove the forced entry of a start date for re-occurring tasks.   
> Adding a start date for tasks with no duration adds no value, and makes 
> filtering and sorting more complex.
>
> 3. Make Importance, Urgency visible in Statistics when in all views.  
> Right now it only shows when using one of the reconfigured ToDO views. 
>
> 4. I agree with others that the computed score needs to offer a lot more 
> configuration - this would make MLO even more special!  
>
> Stay Strong Ukraine!
>

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