[MLO] Re: Combining different routine tasks with each other and with non-routine tasks

2014-03-04 Thread Florian
Thank you Dwight :-)
Please excuse me for responding after such a long time.
You even answered an unasked question (how to end the day), one that 
bothered me a lot.
I wouldn't have thought of that in a thousand years and I am afraid one has 
to have a programmer mind to make MLO work easily.
I love MLO for what it does but I hate it for I cannot make it do what I 
need it to do easily.

Thank you again, Dwight.

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[MLO] Re: Combining different routine tasks with each other and with non-routine tasks

2014-02-15 Thread Dwight Arthur
Hi, Florian. You were pretty close. 

The first problem is that the folder business contains two tasks that are 
supposed to be completed in order. In many ways, a folder is just a special 
kind of task. What makes a folder different from other tasks is that is has 
no start or due date and it cannot be marked completed. Note that a task 
(including folders) that have all of their subtasks completed is a 
different condition from the task itself being completed. Since the first 
task in the business folder is never completed, the second one never 
becomes active.

There's another issue with recurrent tasks, which is that under normal 
circumstances they are never actually completed. You mark one completed and 
instantly it recurrs with a future date. By the time you check to see if 
some subsequent task is activated the recurrent task is incomplete again.

A key step in fixing this is to change your folder full of recurrent tasks 
into a recurring project. The individual tasks now become non recurring 
subtasks of the recurring project. Every time the project completes, and 
gets recurred, the subtasks regenerate. It's important that the 
nonrecurring subtasks use inherit parent dates so their dates move 
forward each day. A recurring project full of nonrecurring subtasks is very 
similar to a folder full of recurring tasks all of which have the same 
start and due dates, except that the project form gives you some more 
control.

Due to the issue described above, the project will never be complete. So 
you need to remove complete tasks in order for the top level folder 
business and replace it with an explicit dependency from the various 
tasks folder to the last task in the daily project.

Here is what I ended up with:
Top level folder Business (complete tasks in order NOT set)
Business contains two items: a project named Daily followed by a folder 
named Various

The Daily project is a recurring project with start and due dates set to 
today and recurrence set for daily, every 1 day. Task recurrence advanced 
options are set to (reset all subtasks to uncompleted; disable automatic 
recurrence; do not create a completed copy). The daily project has 
complete subtasks in order set. Two subtasks Daily1 and Daily2 have 
inherit parent dates set and no other options.

The Various folder had complete subtasks in order set and has a 
dependency on the Daily2 task. The subtasks Various1 through Various5 of 
the various folder have no particular options set.

At this point, the to-do list should show Daily1. When you complete Daily1, 
Daily2 will appear. When you complete Daily2, you get two items in your 
to-do list, the daily project and Various1. The daily project is there 
because it is waiting for you to tell it that the day is over. By hanging 
open in your to-do list it is holding the day open and allowing your 
various tasks to be active. Lets suppose that you are able to complete 
Various1 and Various2 today, and you end the day with the daily project and 
Various3 showing in the to-do list.End the day by clicking the Daily 
project to end it. (if you forget to do this, don't worry, you can do it 
first thing tomorrow morning.) After you complete your daily project, none 
of the tasks from Business will be in your to-do list. After midnight, the 
Daily1 task will appear. When you complete Daily2, the daily project will 
appear in your to-do list, the same as it did yesterday. But appearing with 
it will be Various3, the next task to be done in the Various folder.

How close is this to what you wanted?
-Dwight


On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 6:10:24 PM UTC-5, Florian wrote:

 ...I want the first task in [Various Tasks] to turn active the instant the 
 second task in [Daily routines] is completed...What am I doing wrong?



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