Re: [MLO] Re: goodbye everyone

2012-07-24 Thread david . mangen
I have for all intents and purposes moved away from MLO because the sync of 
BlackBerry to cloud was spotty at best. When it did sync it worked fine, but 
probably 60% of the time a sync attempt would fail. 
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

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Cloud sync works for me on my netbook, notebook, desktop computers and
also on my LG Android Phone.

I only have 160 tasks.

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Re: [MLO] Re: goodbye everyone

2012-07-24 Thread Holmes245
Just an FYI guys...

Someone brought to my attention this last post of mine and I just wanted to 
clarify and say that I meant to use the term 'wary', as in being careful, 
not 'weary', as in growing tired of people saying they were having sync 
issues. That's not what I meant to say so sorry for the confusion if there 
was. All I meant to say was that when I hear people say they have sync 
issues, I try to be careful and not assume that it's the software when, in 
fact, they may not be syncing correctly or have their settings set in such 
a way that would be causing the problem. That was my case a month or two 
back and I had others help me with that. I realized that the set up I had 
wasn't the best way to sync and so I was told to apply the server side on 
the Android app and that solved my problem. That's all I was trying to say. 
I just didn't say it really well.

Thanks guys.

Holmes

On Monday, July 23, 2012 7:27:56 PM UTC-4, Holmes245 wrote:

 robisme, like you, I haven't been experiencing any sync issues between 
 Windows and Android. At first I thought I was until Lisa S (I think it was) 
 suggested that I make sure I had my Android app set to apply the server 
 version. After that, I stopped having what I thought were sync issues 
 caused by the software itself. That's why I'm weary when people say their 
 having problems syncing and that it must be the software. 

 On Monday, July 23, 2012 10:44:20 AM UTC-4, robisme wrote:

 Am I the only one here never having any sync issue with MLO Cloud Sync ?
 Please, tell me what are those issue ? It's not for argue, rather for 
 knowing what can expect me if I don't care.




 Le lundi 23 juillet 2012 15:01:33 UTC+2, Dwight Arthur a écrit :

 I actually agree about MLO's rich feature set, and I don't think I'm 
 ready for an all-cloud task manager. I picked MLO for its handling of 
 dependencies, but also because the sync was do much cleaner and error free 
 than what I had been using. MLO sync to Blackberry via USB was clean, 
 error-free and fast, unlike Intellisynch to Lotus Notes which was full of 
 glitches. I always felt that I was arm-wrestling with Intellisynch, 
 sometimes I would win, other times after a long struggle I would lose.

 The current generation of cloud sync is not as bad as Intellisynch was 
 but the feeling of arm wrestling is back. Maybe I need to go back to wifi 
 sync, where a more realistic conflict resolution is available. It's just 
 that the cloud thing is so damned convenient.

 robisme robillardoliv...@gmail.com wrote:

 The flexibility you'll win in term of sync, you'll, imho, loose it it 
 term of daily use flexibility.
 Try to bulk move, change context, format, color, date, etc. in Toodledo
 Try to copy multiple task as child of another task.
 Just try yo delete multiple task at once ...
 Drag and drop outlook items
 Use it offline
 etc

 Perhaps the online services will grow in term of flexibility, but I 
 think for the moment that a standalone pc software, as soos as it comes 
 with a sync feature that works well, is far from being obsolete.
 IMHO.


 Le dimanche 22 juillet 2012 15:10:50 UTC+2, Dwight Arthur a écrit :

 Hi, Antun. Thanks for posting your solution. In my frustration with 
 MLO’s buggy sync I have considered trying Toodledo, but I am stopped by 
 the 
 lack of support for task dependencies. Have you found a way to overcome 
 this?

  

 *From:* mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com [mailto:
 mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Antkh
 *Sent:* Sunday, July 22, 2012 8:44 AM
 *To:* mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* [MLO] Re: goodbye everyone

  

 Same to me, I'm leaving MLO for cloud services. My opinion is that MLO 
 as a standalone PC-software is completely obsolete. 

 I use Google services, Dropbox, etc. from any location and terminal. 
 MLO doesn’t allow such flexibility. And MLO for Android is too buggy (it 
 even messed my sync-file in the Cloud once). And besides, the ability to 
 sync single small file (charging a price for this feature!!) and proudly 
 name it «MLO Cloud Solution» is ridiculous!

 So, I’ve conducted an analysis of different cloud To-Do services and 
 performed a test of my complete solution for 1 month. And it suits me 
 perfectly, my productivity has risen greatly! So, here it is:

 *Toodledo (Pro account) + Ultimate To-Do List (Android) + Pure Grid 
 calendar widget (Android)*

 So, I’m giving up the subscription to this MLO Group, goodbye to 
 everyone. See you on Toodledo forums maybe)) 

 P.S. Other cloud services I looked at: GQueues, NirvanaHQ, Doit.im, 
 Producteev, Nozbe, Todoist, Smthngs. IMHO Toodledo is most flexible to 
 build GTD or ANY OTHER time management system for any single person.



 четверг, 12 июля 2012 г., 0:41:28 UTC+4 пользователь João Melo написал:

 Hello there,

  

 What i think is really amazing in MLO is 
 its powerful query capabilities in the todo. I did all kind of saved 
 views 
 and i loved it. It is because the mobile 

Re: [MLO] Re: goodbye everyone

2012-07-23 Thread Dwight
I actually agree about MLO's rich feature set, and I don't think I'm ready for 
an all-cloud task manager. I picked MLO for its handling of dependencies, but 
also because the sync was do much cleaner and error free than what I had been 
using. MLO sync to Blackberry via USB was clean, error-free and fast, unlike 
Intellisynch to Lotus Notes which was full of glitches. I always felt that I 
was arm-wrestling with Intellisynch, sometimes I would win, other times after a 
long struggle I would lose.

The current generation of cloud sync is not as bad as Intellisynch was but the 
feeling of arm wrestling is back. Maybe I need to go back to wifi sync, where a 
more realistic conflict resolution is available. It's just that the cloud thing 
is so damned convenient.

robisme robillardoliv...@gmail.com wrote:

The flexibility you'll win in term of sync, you'll, imho, loose it it term of 
daily use flexibility.

Try to bulk move, change context, format, color, date, etc. in Toodledo

Try to copy multiple task as child of another task.

Just try yo delete multiple task at once ...

Drag and drop outlook items

Use it offline

etc


Perhaps the online services will grow in term of flexibility, but I think for 
the moment that a standalone pc software, as soos as it comes with a sync 
feature that works well, is far from being obsolete.

IMHO.



Le dimanche 22 juillet 2012 15:10:50 UTC+2, Dwight Arthur a écrit :

Hi, Antun. Thanks for posting your solution. In my frustration with MLO’s buggy 
sync I have considered trying Toodledo, but I am stopped by the lack of support 
for task dependencies. Have you found a way to overcome this?

 

From: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Antkh
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 8:44 AM
To: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com
Subject: [MLO] Re: goodbye everyone

 

Same to me, I'm leaving MLO for cloud services. My opinion is that MLO as a 
standalone PC-software is completely obsolete. 

I use Google services, Dropbox, etc. from any location and terminal. MLO 
doesn’t allow such flexibility. And MLO for Android is too buggy (it even 
messed my sync-file in the Cloud once). And besides, the ability to sync single 
small file (charging a price for this feature!!) and proudly name it «MLO Cloud 
Solution» is ridiculous!

So, I’ve conducted an analysis of different cloud To-Do services and performed 
a test of my complete solution for 1 month. And it suits me perfectly, my 
productivity has risen greatly! So, here it is:

Toodledo (Pro account) + Ultimate To-Do List (Android) + Pure Grid calendar 
widget (Android)

So, I’m giving up the subscription to this MLO Group, goodbye to everyone. See 
you on Toodledo forums maybe)) 

P.S. Other cloud services I looked at: GQueues, NirvanaHQ, Doit.im, Producteev, 
Nozbe, Todoist, Smthngs. IMHO Toodledo is most flexible to build GTD or ANY 
OTHER time management system for any single person.



четверг, 12 июля 2012 г., 0:41:28 UTC+4 пользователь João Melo написал:

Hello there,

 

What i think is really amazing in MLO is its powerful query capabilities in the 
todo. I did all kind of saved views and i loved it. It is because the mobile 
model that i'm leaving. I tried, but couldn't operate with manually syncs and 
the lack of customized views on both iphone and ipad.

 

I want to thanks the MLO team and this incredible community,

Health and peace for you all,

João

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Re: [MLO] Re: goodbye everyone

2012-07-23 Thread fernando.bara...@gmail.com
Cloud sync works for me on my netbook, notebook, desktop computers and
also on my LG Android Phone.

I only have 160 tasks.

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Re: [MLO] Re: goodbye everyone

2012-07-23 Thread daniel sekera
I am syncing between work pc, laptop, and android and works flawlessly for
me as well

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Ron Stockfleth
ron.stockfl...@gmail.comwrote:

 Of course not, although it might be a platform-specific issue. My data
 file has 9,226 tasks and I am syncing between iPhone, iPad, laptop,
 and desktop computers. The sync works flawlessly for me.

 Ron

 On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:44 AM, robisme robillardoliv...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  Am I the only one here never having any sync issue with MLO Cloud Sync ?
  Please, tell me what are those issue ? It's not for argue, rather for
  knowing what can expect me if I don't care.
 
 
 
 
  Le lundi 23 juillet 2012 15:01:33 UTC+2, Dwight Arthur a écrit :
 
  I actually agree about MLO's rich feature set, and I don't think I'm
 ready
  for an all-cloud task manager. I picked MLO for its handling of
  dependencies, but also because the sync was do much cleaner and error
 free
  than what I had been using. MLO sync to Blackberry via USB was clean,
  error-free and fast, unlike Intellisynch to Lotus Notes which was full
 of
  glitches. I always felt that I was arm-wrestling with Intellisynch,
  sometimes I would win, other times after a long struggle I would lose.
 
  The current generation of cloud sync is not as bad as Intellisynch was
 but
  the feeling of arm wrestling is back. Maybe I need to go back to wifi
 sync,
  where a more realistic conflict resolution is available. It's just that
 the
  cloud thing is so damned convenient.
 
  robisme robillardoliv...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  The flexibility you'll win in term of sync, you'll, imho, loose it it
  term of daily use flexibility.
  Try to bulk move, change context, format, color, date, etc. in Toodledo
  Try to copy multiple task as child of another task.
  Just try yo delete multiple task at once ...
  Drag and drop outlook items
  Use it offline
  etc
 
  Perhaps the online services will grow in term of flexibility, but I
 think
  for the moment that a standalone pc software, as soos as it comes with
 a
  sync feature that works well, is far from being obsolete.
  IMHO.
 
 
  Le dimanche 22 juillet 2012 15:10:50 UTC+2, Dwight Arthur a écrit :
 
  Hi, Antun. Thanks for posting your solution. In my frustration with
  MLO’s buggy sync I have considered trying Toodledo, but I am stopped
 by the
  lack of support for task dependencies. Have you found a way to
 overcome
  this?
 
 
 
  From: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com
  [mailto:mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Antkh
  Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 8:44 AM
  To: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [MLO] Re: goodbye everyone
 
 
 
  Same to me, I'm leaving MLO for cloud services. My opinion is that MLO
  as a standalone PC-software is completely obsolete.
 
  I use Google services, Dropbox, etc. from any location and terminal.
 MLO
  doesn’t allow such flexibility. And MLO for Android is too buggy (it
 even
  messed my sync-file in the Cloud once). And besides, the ability to
 sync
  single small file (charging a price for this feature!!) and proudly
 name it
  «MLO Cloud Solution» is ridiculous!
 
  So, I’ve conducted an analysis of different cloud To-Do services and
  performed a test of my complete solution for 1 month. And it suits me
  perfectly, my productivity has risen greatly! So, here it is:
 
  Toodledo (Pro account) + Ultimate To-Do List (Android) + Pure Grid
  calendar widget (Android)
 
  So, I’m giving up the subscription to this MLO Group, goodbye to
  everyone. See you on Toodledo forums maybe))
 
  P.S. Other cloud services I looked at: GQueues, NirvanaHQ, Doit.im,
  Producteev, Nozbe, Todoist, Smthngs. IMHO Toodledo is most flexible
 to build
  GTD or ANY OTHER time management system for any single person.
 
 
 
  четверг, 12 июля 2012 г., 0:41:28 UTC+4 пользователь João Melo
 написал:
 
  Hello there,
 
 
 
  What i think is really amazing in MLO is its powerful query
 capabilities
  in the todo. I did all kind of saved views and i loved it. It is
 because the
  mobile model that i'm leaving. I tried, but couldn't operate with
 manually
  syncs and the lack of customized views on both iphone and ipad.
 
 
 
  I want to thanks the MLO team and this incredible community,
 
  Health and peace for you all,
 
  João
 
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Re: [MLO] Re: goodbye everyone

2012-07-23 Thread Lisa Stroyan
If I understand it correctly, there are certain configurations of tasks which 
presents a design flaw in the sync functionality of MLO. I don't believe it's a 
reliability issue. The problem is that tasks are synced on a task – granularity 
basis. If you modify two properties of one task on different platforms, only 
one will be kept. When you sync to android, the one that will be kept depends 
on your android setting, not on which task property you actually wanted to 
keep. On the desktop, you always have the option of choosing.

 Furthermore, Dwight has reported a situation in which modification of a task 
also impacts other tasks in its tree through auto recurrence. So in this 
manner, it's not just a single task that is being impacted.

 I haven't run into this myself, probably because I use it very few auto 
complete trees.

 Dwight, would you be willing to describe a small set of tasks which 
illustrates this issue, both so that we can understand it, and perhaps give 
Andrey a clearer picture of the problem? I have noticed a strong correlation 
between accurate and easy to reproduce problem descriptions and changes being 
enacted in MLO :-) unfortunately, this is probably a design issue and not easy 
to solve. However, there may be some kludge that could help a lot.

Lisa

Ron Stockfleth ron.stockfl...@gmail.com wrote:

Of course not, although it might be a platform-specific issue. My data
file has 9,226 tasks and I am syncing between iPhone, iPad, laptop,
and desktop computers. The sync works flawlessly for me.

Ron

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:44 AM, robisme robillardoliv...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Am I the only one here never having any sync issue with MLO Cloud
Sync ?
 Please, tell me what are those issue ? It's not for argue, rather for
 knowing what can expect me if I don't care.




 Le lundi 23 juillet 2012 15:01:33 UTC+2, Dwight Arthur a écrit :

 I actually agree about MLO's rich feature set, and I don't think I'm
ready
 for an all-cloud task manager. I picked MLO for its handling of
 dependencies, but also because the sync was do much cleaner and
error free
 than what I had been using. MLO sync to Blackberry via USB was
clean,
 error-free and fast, unlike Intellisynch to Lotus Notes which was
full of
 glitches. I always felt that I was arm-wrestling with Intellisynch,
 sometimes I would win, other times after a long struggle I would
lose.

 The current generation of cloud sync is not as bad as Intellisynch
was but
 the feeling of arm wrestling is back. Maybe I need to go back to
wifi sync,
 where a more realistic conflict resolution is available. It's just
that the
 cloud thing is so damned convenient.

 robisme robillardoliv...@gmail.com wrote:

 The flexibility you'll win in term of sync, you'll, imho, loose it
it
 term of daily use flexibility.
 Try to bulk move, change context, format, color, date, etc. in
Toodledo
 Try to copy multiple task as child of another task.
 Just try yo delete multiple task at once ...
 Drag and drop outlook items
 Use it offline
 etc

 Perhaps the online services will grow in term of flexibility, but I
think
 for the moment that a standalone pc software, as soos as it comes
with a
 sync feature that works well, is far from being obsolete.
 IMHO.


 Le dimanche 22 juillet 2012 15:10:50 UTC+2, Dwight Arthur a écrit :

 Hi, Antun. Thanks for posting your solution. In my frustration
with
 MLO’s buggy sync I have considered trying Toodledo, but I am
stopped by the
 lack of support for task dependencies. Have you found a way to
overcome
 this?



 From: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Antkh
 Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 8:44 AM
 To: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [MLO] Re: goodbye everyone



 Same to me, I'm leaving MLO for cloud services. My opinion is that
MLO
 as a standalone PC-software is completely obsolete.

 I use Google services, Dropbox, etc. from any location and
terminal. MLO
 doesn’t allow such flexibility. And MLO for Android is too buggy
(it even
 messed my sync-file in the Cloud once). And besides, the ability
to sync
 single small file (charging a price for this feature!!) and
proudly name it
 «MLO Cloud Solution» is ridiculous!

 So, I’ve conducted an analysis of different cloud To-Do services
and
 performed a test of my complete solution for 1 month. And it suits
me
 perfectly, my productivity has risen greatly! So, here it is:

 Toodledo (Pro account) + Ultimate To-Do List (Android) + Pure Grid
 calendar widget (Android)

 So, I’m giving up the subscription to this MLO Group, goodbye to
 everyone. See you on Toodledo forums maybe))

 P.S. Other cloud services I looked at: GQueues, NirvanaHQ,
Doit.im,
 Producteev, Nozbe, Todoist, Smthngs. IMHO Toodledo is most
flexible to build
 GTD or ANY OTHER time management system for any single person.



 четверг, 12 июля 2012 г., 0:41:28 UTC+4 пользователь João Melo
написал:

 Hello there,



 What i think is really amazing in MLO is its 

Re: [MLO] Re: goodbye everyone

2012-07-23 Thread CTenorman
I actually think this is a time-limited problem (for MLO), and one not 
exclusive to MLO. Any service which has a mobile app has the potential to 
run into syncing issues. Even if the service is web-based on the desktop, 
mobile nearly always has an app (and it's really required because mobile 
lacks 100% connectivity). If you edit something on the desktop web-based 
interface and then edit the same task on mobile in a different way without 
a cloud sync in between, the same kind of problem will occur. The issue 
isn't web-based vs traditional software so much as requiring constant sync 
of changes in the background to prevent this kind of thing.

If the mobile app pushed all changes to the cloud instantly as they 
occurred or synced on a frequent, set interval instead in the background, 
that would fix part of the problem. Also, if the desktop app synced 
automatically in the background at a reasonably-frequent set interval and 
then checked cloud status if it became the active window and downloaded any 
changes that occurred in the interim, this would pretty much eliminate the 
problem.

---
Partial Solution:

Because I had the same issue, I did a few things to help automate the 
procedure. First, I modified a small script for the desktop that 
automatically syncs in the background. I found it online (can't remember 
where) and then just modified it to make it work for me. If anyone wants 
the file please let me know, I'll post it in a folder in my dropbox and 
include instructions on how to install it as a service. It doesn't take 
very long to do, and it means that MLO desktop stays in sync with the 
cloud, which is a godsend.

On the android end I modified a few settings to make sync more seamless (I 
don't know what options are available on iOS, but iOS isn't big on 
background processes if I remember correctly, so MLO may be constrained in 
what it can do for syncing there). 


   1. In Android, I set Both sides changed item to apply server version. 
   I tend to do less substantial edits on the android app, so I'd rather the 
   big changes done on the desktop get preserved over the android app.
   2. Make sure Autosync on close is set to on. This covers about 60% of 
   the sync functionality I need. It basically means that my desktop is never 
   out-of-date.
   3. Make sure sync via Wi-Fi only is unchecked. I find having this 
   checked is a very strange default, one which I wish MLO would change. Over 
   the last 15 days MLO has used about 10mb for me, and I'm a pretty heavy 
   user. If you have any data plan at all this shouldn't be an issue.
   4. If desired, check check cloud periodically. I prefer to leave this 
   one off, as I'll get an MLO alarm every time I start editing on my desktop, 
   which is annoying. I just remember to sync on mobile first before doing 
   anything substantial there if I've been at work on the desktop.

With all the above changes in place, sync works pretty seamlessly most of 
the the time. Real, honest automatic background sync for android is the 
real answer to nearly all the remaining problems. That combined with the 
script above for automated desktop sync would solve nearly every sync 
problem I suspect, as nothing would have the chance to get out-of-date, and 
there would be no conflicts to resolve.

I remember being told at one point that android automatic background sync 
would happen once desktop MLO reached 4.0, probably because MLO 4 will 
include easy-to-use background syncing. However, for users who don't mind a 
script for their MLO desktops, having automated android sync to work with 
that now would be a godsend. At the very least it would mean fewer issues 
to work through for people who were willing to put in the time to make it 
work.

If MLO needed users to be guinea pigs for testing full android automated 
sync, I'd be happy to volunteer myself. :)


On Monday, 23 July 2012 11:40:35 UTC-4, Lisa S wrote:

 If I understand it correctly, there are certain configurations of tasks 
 which presents a design flaw in the sync functionality of MLO. I don't 
 believe it's a reliability issue. The problem is that tasks are synced on a 
 task – granularity basis. If you modify two properties of one task on 
 different platforms, only one will be kept. When you sync to android, the 
 one that will be kept depends on your android setting, not on which task 
 property you actually wanted to keep. On the desktop, you always have the 
 option of choosing.

 Furthermore, Dwight has reported a situation in which modification of a 
 task also impacts other tasks in its tree through auto recurrence. So in 
 this manner, it's not just a single task that is being impacted.

 I haven't run into this myself, probably because I use it very few auto 
 complete trees.

 Dwight, would you be willing to describe a small set of tasks which 
 illustrates this issue, both so that we can understand it, and perhaps give 
 Andrey a clearer picture of the problem? I have 

RE: [MLO] Re: goodbye everyone

2012-07-22 Thread mlo
Hi, Antun. Thanks for posting your solution. In my frustration with MLO’s buggy 
sync I have considered trying Toodledo, but I am stopped by the lack of support 
for task dependencies. Have you found a way to overcome this?

 

From: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Antkh
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 8:44 AM
To: mylifeorganized@googlegroups.com
Subject: [MLO] Re: goodbye everyone

 

Same to me, I'm leaving MLO for cloud services. My opinion is that MLO as a 
standalone PC-software is completely obsolete. 

I use Google services, Dropbox, etc. from any location and terminal. MLO 
doesn’t allow such flexibility. And MLO for Android is too buggy (it even 
messed my sync-file in the Cloud once). And besides, the ability to sync single 
small file (charging a price for this feature!!) and proudly name it «MLO Cloud 
Solution» is ridiculous!

So, I’ve conducted an analysis of different cloud To-Do services and performed 
a test of my complete solution for 1 month. And it suits me perfectly, my 
productivity has risen greatly! So, here it is:

Toodledo (Pro account) + Ultimate To-Do List (Android) + Pure Grid calendar 
widget (Android)

So, I’m giving up the subscription to this MLO Group, goodbye to everyone. See 
you on Toodledo forums maybe)) 

P.S. Other cloud services I looked at: GQueues, NirvanaHQ, Doit.im, Producteev, 
Nozbe, Todoist, Smthngs. IMHO Toodledo is most flexible to build GTD or ANY 
OTHER time management system for any single person.



четверг, 12 июля 2012 г., 0:41:28 UTC+4 пользователь João Melo написал:

Hello there,

 

What i think is really amazing in MLO is its powerful query capabilities in the 
todo. I did all kind of saved views and i loved it. It is because the mobile 
model that i'm leaving. I tried, but couldn't operate with manually syncs and 
the lack of customized views on both iphone and ipad.

 

I want to thanks the MLO team and this incredible community,

Health and peace for you all,

João

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Re: [MLO] Re: goodbye everyone

2012-07-13 Thread Lisa Stroyan
You can get away with mostly free apps on android, which I don't think is the 
case for iPhone. You might be surprised at how little money you would have to 
spend on apps to switch over. If you want specific apps, like MLO  obviously, 
you have to pay. But for a lot of purposes I just use whichever app is best of 
the free in that category.

Lisa 

João Melo joaovel...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,

First, i want to thank you for your incredible concern and rich
response. 
I'm felling very flattered that you and the other guys/girls took some
time 
to talk to me. 

I didn't know that the app for android could do more. You described a
nice 
way to add tasks and bring me back to a temptation that i have from
time to 
time: switch to the android plataform -- the main point is probably
Itunes. 
But i am a old user of iphone and ipad, and my wife came aboard to
iphone 
and ipad too last year. I have some money invested in apps along the
years 
and now shared by both of us. I dread to search and buy all that apps
again 
and lose the benefits to have all the family with the same mobile 
plataform. 

Thanks again,
João

On Friday, July 13, 2012 3:58:45 AM UTC-3, CTenorman wrote:

 Joao, If I could make a suggestion, try MLO on Android. I used to
have an 
 iPhone, and I occasionally pick the old thing (3GS) up just to see
what's 
 doing in the apple world. Compared to the android app, the iphone app

 really lacks a lot of the power for context filtering, views,
zooming-in, 
 and far more. I'd even go so far as to say it's worth switching
platforms 
 for if you're a heavy MLO user. With the galaxy nexus running at $350

 off-contract in the google play store, it's worth it if productivity
in a 
 mobile environment is really important to you. If you're the sort of
user 
 to loves to take advantage of the kind of power that MLO offers,
you'd 
 probably love android as a platform, you can make it do pretty much 
 anything with very little effort. 

 For example, on iPhone the fastest way for me to add a task was to
turn on 
 the phone, swipe to unlock, press the home button to exit the current
app, 
 swipe over to the MLO app, click on the app, and when it finally
loaded up 
 hit the add button and then type in what I wanted to enter.
Unfortunately, 
 on iOS, there's just no way to make that process faster unless you 
 jailbreak. On android I turn on my phone, press the microphone MLO
shortcut 
 and say what I want to enter. 5-7 seconds vs 0.5 seconds from start
to go. 
 It's just stuff like that all over the place that makes the android 
 experience outstanding if you want to really juice your productivity 
 experience. As a huge evernote user, I also find the evernote app far
more 
 robust, particularly because of widgets and integration with
Android's full 
 file system for attaching any kind of file to an evernote note, etc.

 If you're really heavily invested in the iOS platform, then maybe
other 
 apps will do more of what you're looking for, though I ended up using
MLO 
 anyway. However, if you're not absolutely tied to the iOS ecosystem,
I'd 
 strongly consider giving the android platform and the MLO android
client a 
 try, it's really potent. I'm not sure exactly how it works (I haven't
used 
 it myself), but if you were curious if it could work for you, give 
 Bluestacks a try, it lets you run Android on you PC.

 Holmes, the iOS client does lack a few of the things that Joao
probably 
 wanted, so I can understand his comment a bit. I remember the
inability to 
 look at what was due by date as a particularly tricky thing to work
around 
 - until I got an android device and I grinned from ear to ear at the
view 
 options. :) However, for android, I think you've hit the nail on the
head. 
 I've done some pretty maniacal searching to find something with more
juice 
 for Android+Windows, and nothing I've looked at comes even close. I
too 
 would be interested if there was something else out there that had
that 
 kind of cross-platform power, but after trying to use quite a few
they all 
 seem to come up short. Though to be honest, even just looking at the 
 android client, I'd be hard-pressed to find anything that could
better it 
 for raw power and usability when you've got a lot to manage. I only
wish 
 the mobile version had more features because I've seen them exist on
the 
 desktop version, not because I've seen them exist on other android
apps. 



 On Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:48:51 UTC-4, Holmes245 wrote:

 This is the main reason though why I've seen some developers stay
with 
 one platform and have decided not to try and develop for every known

 platform. I know one who develops task management software. He only 
 develops for Windows. You get so many people all who want a version
of that 
 software on their platform or device, it almost becomes impossible
for 
 programmers with small shops to please everyone. This is why I can't

 complain. I'm happy with my Windows/Android setup and if I wasn't, I