Re: Need help with mysql prob

2009-04-20 Thread Andy Shellam

Hi,

abdulazeez alugo wrote:
  

Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 23:19:56 +0100
From: andy-li...@networkmail.eu
To: defati...@hotmail.com
CC: mysql@lists.mysql.com
Subject: Re: Need help with mysql prob

Hi Alugo,


Hi Andy,

Thanks for your prompt response. However, since tbl1_id has an auto_increment value in tbl1, mysql is actually generating the values for it automatically. 

  
Ah, I see your point. I'm guessing by your code you're using PHP? If 
so call mysql_insert_id() after you've inserted your record into tbl1. 
That will give you the ID of the auto increment column - see the note in 
the below link about bigint columns if your data type is bigint.


http://uk3.php.net/mysql_insert_id

Hope this helps,
Andy



 


Yes I'm using PHP. Can it be something like

function newPost_tbl1($id, $entry, $text)

{

$conn;

$result= mysql_query(INSERT INTO tbl1 (tbl1_id, entrytitle, entrytext)

 VALUES ('$id','$entry', $text)', 
$conn);

$tbl1_id = mysql_insert_id($conn);

}

  
Yep that's about it.  You said that tbl1_id is an auto-increment column, 
why are you including it in the insert query?  You should just need 
entrytitle and entrytext, then $tbl1_id will be the value of the tbl1_id 
field.


I hope you've just missed out everything on the $conn line just for 
short-hand, because $conn needs to be a valid connection resource 
(result from mysql_connect) before passing it to mysql_query.  Also on 
your MySQL query line, you've started the insert command string with a 
quote  but terminated it with a single apostrophe, this terminator 
should also be a quote.  Your $text should also be enclosed with a 
single apostrophe, and don't forget to clean your input ($entry and 
$text) otherwise you'll be vulnerable to SQL injection and XSS attacks.


Andy

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Re: A good US Hosting Site?

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  Date: Sunday, April 19, 2009, 11:42 PM
  Hi everyone.  I am starting my
  first web site.  I have a temporary contract
  with godaddy but know there are better options out
  there.   The only problem
  is, I don't know reliable sources to research which hosting
  program to use.
  Any recommendations on a hosting sight or some good
  resources to find a
  hosting site.  I need a hosting site that allows me
  to:
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Re: Does mysql support materialized views?

2009-04-20 Thread Olexandr Melnyk
No, you will have to emulate them using triggers or stored procedures.

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 I am now working with Mondrian , and need  tuning the database, as the
 materialized views can improve the performance
 and doesn't need to create the fact tables



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Re: Does mysql support materialized views?

2009-04-20 Thread Morten


On Apr 20, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Olexandr Melnyk wrote:

No, you will have to emulate them using triggers or stored  
procedures.


Or:

1. Create table this_is_not_a_view and use that as the materialized  
view
2. Build a new version in the background this_is_not_a_view_pending  
as per your data freshness requirements
3. Use RENAME TABLE to push the pending table to production so to  
speak




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Re: Does mysql support materialized views?

2009-04-20 Thread Olexandr Melnyk
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Lin Chun franks1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi  Olexandr Melnyk

 That's to say, create the aggregation tables and update them by triggers?
 I've noticed a update view in Mysql , can it work under the aggretate
 operation?

You're not looking for views, you need to use normal tables.

If you will update the table by triggers, it will always be up-to-date
but query cache will be cleared on every such update.

On the other hand, if you do it periodically, data will not always be
accurate, but query cache can be used efficiently.


 On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Olexandr Melnyk omel...@gmail.com wrote:

 No, you will have to emulate them using triggers or stored procedures.



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Does mysql support materialized views?

2009-04-20 Thread Lin Chun
Hi

I am now working with Mondrian , and need  tuning the database, as the
materialized views can improve the performance
and doesn't need to create the fact tables



cheers
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Re: Does mysql support materialized views?

2009-04-20 Thread Krishna Chandra Prajapati
No

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Lin Chun franks1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi

 I am now working with Mondrian , and need  tuning the database, as the
 materialized views can improve the performance
 and doesn't need to create the fact tables



 cheers
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Fwd: Does mysql support materialized views?

2009-04-20 Thread Olexandr Melnyk
Query cache stores select query together with its results. When the
same query is sent again, result from the cache is returned.

Whenever some table is modified, all cache entries referencing it are
deleted. That happens even when modification doesn't affect cached
rows, eg.:

SELECT a FROM a_table WHERE id = 1; # Result gets cached
UPDATE a_table SET a = 2 WHERE id = 2; # Result is removed from the query cache
SELECT a FROM a_table WHERE id = 1; # Query cache can't be used

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Lin Chun franks1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi
 I don't know very well MySQL, the query cache is something like the 
 Snapshotone of the s mod listed in the query is modified, the
 in Oracle, so we can get the result immediately?





 On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Olexandr Melnyk omel...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Lin Chun franks1...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi  Olexandr Melnyk
 
  That's to say, create the aggregation tables and update them by
  triggers?
  I've noticed a update view in Mysql , can it work under the aggretate
  operation?

 You're not looking for views, you need to use normal tables.

 If you will update the table by triggers, it will always be up-to-date
 but query cache will be cleared on every such update.

 On the other hand, if you do it periodically, data will not always be
 accurate, but query cache can be used efficiently.

 
  On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Olexandr Melnyk omel...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  No, you will have to emulate them using triggers or stored
  procedures.
 
 
 
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  http://omelnyk.net/
 
 
 
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RE: Need help with mysql prob

2009-04-20 Thread abdulazeez alugo

 Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 08:06:05 +0100
 From: andy-li...@networkmail.eu
 To: defati...@hotmail.com
 CC: mysql@lists.mysql.com
 Subject: Re: Need help with mysql prob
 
 Hi,
 
 abdulazeez alugo wrote:
  
  Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 23:19:56 +0100
  From: andy-li...@networkmail.eu
  To: defati...@hotmail.com
  CC: mysql@lists.mysql.com
  Subject: Re: Need help with mysql prob
 
  Hi Alugo,
  
  Hi Andy,
 
  Thanks for your prompt response. However, since tbl1_id has an 
  auto_increment value in tbl1, mysql is actually generating the values for 
  it automatically. 
 
  
  Ah, I see your point. I'm guessing by your code you're using PHP? If 
  so call mysql_insert_id() after you've inserted your record into tbl1. 
  That will give you the ID of the auto increment column - see the note in 
  the below link about bigint columns if your data type is bigint.
 
  http://uk3.php.net/mysql_insert_id
 
  Hope this helps,
  Andy
  
 
  
 
  Yes I'm using PHP. Can it be something like
 
  function newPost_tbl1($id, $entry, $text)
 
  {
 
  $conn;
 
  $result= mysql_query(INSERT INTO tbl1 (tbl1_id, entrytitle, entrytext)
 
  VALUES ('$id','$entry', $text)', $conn);
 
  $tbl1_id = mysql_insert_id($conn);
 
  }
 
  
 Yep that's about it. You said that tbl1_id is an auto-increment column, 
 why are you including it in the insert query? You should just need 
 entrytitle and entrytext, then $tbl1_id will be the value of the tbl1_id 
 field.
 
 I hope you've just missed out everything on the $conn line just for 
 short-hand, because $conn needs to be a valid connection resource 
 (result from mysql_connect) before passing it to mysql_query. Also on 
 your MySQL query line, you've started the insert command string with a 
 quote  but terminated it with a single apostrophe, this terminator 
 should also be a quote. Your $text should also be enclosed with a 
 single apostrophe, and don't forget to clean your input ($entry and 
 $text) otherwise you'll be vulnerable to SQL injection and XSS attacks.
 
 Andy

 

Hi Andy,

Thank you very much you have been really very helpful. All those mistakes you 
pointed at in the script about the apostrophe and others, are simple mistakes I 
just made in the rush of typing the message; and yes $conn is the result from 
mysql_connect. In my original script I clean my script to avoid mysql injection.

However, if you look at the code very well, you'll realize that I have stored 
the result of the mysql_insert-id($conn) in a php variable $tbl1_id and this is 
defined within a function newPost_tbl1($id, $entry, $text). My problem now is 
how to access that variable in the function that inserts into the child table 
so that I'll have the same value for tbl1_id in tbl1 and tbl1_id in tbl2.

Thanks in advance.

Alugo.



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Re: Need help with mysql prob

2009-04-20 Thread Andy Shellam

Hi Alugo,

abdulazeez alugo wrote:


Hi Andy,
Thank you very much you have been really very helpful. All those 
mistakes you pointed at in the script about the apostrophe and others, 
are simple mistakes I just made in the rush of typing the message; and 
yes $conn is the result from mysql_connect. In my original script I 
clean my script to avoid mysql injection.


No worries, just thought I'd point it out in case ;-)

However, if you look at the code very well, you'll realize that I have 
stored the result of the mysql_insert-id($conn) in a php variable 
$tbl1_id and this is defined within a function *newPost_tbl1($id, 
$entry, $text).* My problem now is how to access that variable in the 
function that inserts into the child table so that I'll have the same 
value for tbl1_id in tbl1 and tbl1_id in tbl2.


Why not just return it from the function?


$tbl1_id = mysql_insert_id();
return $tbl1_id;


Then in the code that calls newPost_tbl1 ...

$tbl1_id = newPost_tbl1($id, $entry, $text);
newPost_tbl2($tbl1_id, );

Regards,
Andy

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RE: Need help with mysql prob

2009-04-20 Thread abdulazeez alugo

 Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:03:14 +0100
 From: andy-li...@networkmail.eu
 To: defati...@hotmail.com
 CC: mysql@lists.mysql.com
 Subject: Re: Need help with mysql prob
 
 Hi Alugo,
 
 abdulazeez alugo wrote:
 
  Hi Andy,
  Thank you very much you have been really very helpful. All those 
  mistakes you pointed at in the script about the apostrophe and others, 
  are simple mistakes I just made in the rush of typing the message; and 
  yes $conn is the result from mysql_connect. In my original script I 
  clean my script to avoid mysql injection.
 
 No worries, just thought I'd point it out in case ;-)
 
  However, if you look at the code very well, you'll realize that I have 
  stored the result of the mysql_insert-id($conn) in a php variable 
  $tbl1_id and this is defined within a function *newPost_tbl1($id, 
  $entry, $text).* My problem now is how to access that variable in the 
  function that inserts into the child table so that I'll have the same 
  value for tbl1_id in tbl1 and tbl1_id in tbl2.
 
 Why not just return it from the function?
 
 
 $tbl1_id = mysql_insert_id();
 return $tbl1_id;
 
 
 Then in the code that calls newPost_tbl1 ...
 
 $tbl1_id = newPost_tbl1($id, $entry, $text);
 newPost_tbl2($tbl1_id, );
 
 Regards,
 Andy
 
Thank you very much Andy,

Now my problem is solved.

Cheers.

Alugo Abdulazeez.

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RE: A good US Hosting Site?

2009-04-20 Thread Mark
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Subject: Re: A good US Hosting Site?

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Sun bought by Oracle

2009-04-20 Thread Andy Shellam
I've just been made aware by a client that Oracle have purchased Sun 
Microsystems.  The article below on Sun's website mentions that Oracle 
are committed to Linux and other open platforms and mentions the fact 
that Java touches practically every business system around.


http://www.sun.com/third-party/global/oracle/index.jsp

I wonder what Oracle's plans are when it comes to MySQL?  There is no 
mention of MySQL in the above article.  Will it eventually come under 
the Oracle umbrella, much like BerkeleyDB did?


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Re: Sun bought by Oracle

2009-04-20 Thread Krishna Chandra Prajapati
Whats the future of 'MySQL' under Oracle ?

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 I've just been made aware by a client that Oracle have purchased Sun
 Microsystems.  The article below on Sun's website mentions that Oracle are
 committed to Linux and other open platforms and mentions the fact that
 Java touches practically every business system around.

 http://www.sun.com/third-party/global/oracle/index.jsp

 I wonder what Oracle's plans are when it comes to MySQL?  There is no
 mention of MySQL in the above article.  Will it eventually come under the
 Oracle umbrella, much like BerkeleyDB did?

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Re: Sun bought by Oracle

2009-04-20 Thread Andy Smith
Only time will tell what will happen, but I have read a few articles  
saying Oracle had been interested specifically in buying MySQL from  
Sun as it gives them an open source DB offering (which they dont have  
now right?), and that brings with it contact with potential customers  
for support or non-free solutions etc... However that was from the  
internet press so its all just rumours and supositions ;)


cheers Andy.

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Whats the future of 'MySQL' under Oracle ?



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Re: A good US Hosting Site?

2009-04-20 Thread Daniel Brown
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 23:42, Cameron Rogers cameronl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi everyone.  I am starting my first web site.  I have a temporary contract
 with godaddy but know there are better options out there.   The only problem
 is, I don't know reliable sources to research which hosting program to use.
 Any recommendations on a hosting sight or some good resources to find a
 hosting site.  I need a hosting site that allows me to:
 1.  Use PHP/MYSQL
 2.  Send 1000 + emails a day   -- the mail function has been my greatest
 limitation with godaddy

Actually, Cam, you can just contact GoDaddy to lift the limit,
depending on your arrangement.  Their dedicated servers had a limit of
3,000 emails per month, at least as recent as 2007, and all that was
required was sending them a request and agreeing to a statement that
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Small InnoDB table with many concurrent queries

2009-04-20 Thread living liquid | Christian Meisinger
Hi there.

I've a small table with my daily banner hits.
1. version was with myisam but with a lot of concurrent queries (all SELECTs) i 
get too many table locks.
so i changed it to an innodb table.
works great most of the time.

sometimes it seems to be too much, starting at about 500 concurrent queries i 
see a huge amount of processes
taking about 3 minutes to finish 'sending data'.

the SELECT queries use the correct index and data returned is small (2 
integers).

the table has only 4MB and about 35000 rows.
it can't be the size of the table...

mysql server is connected with a 1G switch.
so i don't think it's network related.

mysql server is a dual xeon 2,3GHz with 8G ram and SCSI disk RAID5.

did i hit a innodb limit with this server configuration?
or is my my.cnf bad?

my.cnf ---

key_buffer  = 750M
max_allowed_packet  = 32M
table_cache = 1
sort_buffer_size= 4M
join_buffer_size= 4M
read_buffer_size= 2M
read_rnd_buffer_size= 4M
myisam_sort_buffer_size = 128M
query_cache_size= 750M
query_cache_limit   = 16M
thread_cache= 32
thread_concurrency  = 16

tmp_table_size  = 700M
max_heap_table_size = 700M

net_buffer_length = 16K

skip-external-locking

innodb_additional_mem_pool_size = 16M
innodb_buffer_pool_size = 2G
innodb_thread_concurrency   = 16
innodb_flush_log_at_trx_commit  = 2
innodb_log_buffer_size  = 8M
innodb_lock_wait_timeout= 120
innodb_log_file_size= 256M
innodb_log_files_in_group   = 3

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Re: Sun bought by Oracle

2009-04-20 Thread mos

At 08:31 AM 4/20/2009, you wrote:

Only time will tell what will happen, but I have read a few articles
saying Oracle had been interested specifically in buying MySQL from
Sun as it gives them an open source DB offering (which they dont have
now right?), and that brings with it contact with potential customers
for support or non-free solutions etc... However that was from the
internet press so its all just rumours and supositions ;)

cheers Andy.

Quoting Krishna Chandra Prajapati prajapat...@gmail.com:


Whats the future of 'MySQL' under Oracle ?


A lot depends on whether MySQL can make money for Oracle and not encroach 
on their Oracle sales. Will they continue developing MySQL cluster as open 
source? I hope so. But I worry about the fact that they have competing 
products and they could fork MySQL into open source (community supported) 
and their own maintained MySQL version like Borland did with Interbase and 
Firebird. I think IBM would have been a much better partner than Oracle.


Mike



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Re: Small InnoDB table with many concurrent queries

2009-04-20 Thread Krishna Chandra Prajapati
change connect timeout to 10sec
flatly use skip-name-resolve

whats the total size of your database.

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 7:58 PM, living liquid | Christian Meisinger 
c.meisin...@livingliquid.com wrote:

 Hi there.

 I've a small table with my daily banner hits.
 1. version was with myisam but with a lot of concurrent queries (all
 SELECTs) i get too many table locks.
 so i changed it to an innodb table.
 works great most of the time.

 sometimes it seems to be too much, starting at about 500 concurrent queries
 i see a huge amount of processes
 taking about 3 minutes to finish 'sending data'.

 the SELECT queries use the correct index and data returned is small (2
 integers).

 the table has only 4MB and about 35000 rows.
 it can't be the size of the table...

 mysql server is connected with a 1G switch.
 so i don't think it's network related.

 mysql server is a dual xeon 2,3GHz with 8G ram and SCSI disk RAID5.

 did i hit a innodb limit with this server configuration?
 or is my my.cnf bad?

 my.cnf ---

 key_buffer  = 750M

If not using myisam table, you it to 400mb


 max_allowed_packet  = 32M
 table_cache = 1

big (5000 to 6000)


 sort_buffer_size= 4M
 join_buffer_size= 4M
 read_buffer_size= 2M
 read_rnd_buffer_size= 4M
 myisam_sort_buffer_size = 128M
 query_cache_size= 750M


 query_cache_limit   = 16M

if the query result set is small change it between 1 to 3 mb


 thread_cache= 32
 thread_concurrency  = 16

 tmp_table_size  = 700M
 max_heap_table_size = 700M

 net_buffer_length = 16K

 skip-external-locking

 innodb_additional_mem_pool_size = 16M
 innodb_buffer_pool_size = 2G

too big can also be an issue


 innodb_thread_concurrency   = 16
 innodb_flush_log_at_trx_commit  = 2
 innodb_log_buffer_size  = 8M
 innodb_lock_wait_timeout= 120
 innodb_log_file_size= 256M
 innodb_log_files_in_group   = 3

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Re: A good US Hosting Site?

2009-04-20 Thread Claudio Nanni
Well,

not a joke for free hosting.

But it is, for me, by far the best hosting site.

Compleat, easy to use, five subdomains, and also mysql included.

Paid hosting is outstanding.

Cheers

Claudio

2009/4/20 Mark ad...@asarian-host.net

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 Sent: maandag 20 april 2009 10:28
 To: p...@pwilson.net
 Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com; Cameron Rogers; step...@kionic.com
 Subject: Re: A good US Hosting Site?

  www.awardspace.com
 
  I have both free and paid hosting and it is really really good, it has a
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Re: Sun bought by Oracle

2009-04-20 Thread Curtis Maurand
I figure that they'll either kill mysql or they'll limit the commnunity 
version in ways that will make you purchase a commercial version if you 
want to continue to use it.  I figure there will be heavy migrations to 
open source alternatives.


--C

Andy Shellam wrote:
I've just been made aware by a client that Oracle have purchased Sun 
Microsystems.  The article below on Sun's website mentions that Oracle 
are committed to Linux and other open platforms and mentions the 
fact that Java touches practically every business system around.


http://www.sun.com/third-party/global/oracle/index.jsp

I wonder what Oracle's plans are when it comes to MySQL?  There is no 
mention of MySQL in the above article.  Will it eventually come under 
the Oracle umbrella, much like BerkeleyDB did?





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Re: A good US Hosting Site?

2009-04-20 Thread John Meyer
I haven't had a problem with Hostgator yet. Prices are fair and
reasonable Also I've installed web apps through their portal and on my
own and haven't had a problem yet.

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Re: Sun bought by Oracle

2009-04-20 Thread mos

At 08:22 AM 4/20/2009, Krishna Chandra Prajapati wrote:

Whats the future of 'MySQL' under Oracle ?



Here is a blog on ZDNet in case anyone is interested.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=16598tag=nl.e539

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Re: Sun bought by Oracle

2009-04-20 Thread Arthur Fuller
I think that you'e being paranoid. IMO, Oracle will continue to support and
develop mySQL. Further, I think that these concerns about the future of
mySQL overlook the points behind the purchase:

1. To obtain the Sun hardware and thus provide a complete hardware and
software solution.
2. To further optimize Oracle to take full advantage of the Solaris OS.
3. To continue to support Linux.
4. To get Java and thus penetrate the mobile device marketplace.
5. And finally, to grow Oracle revenues by $1B+ a year and growing. Given
the purchase price, the acquisition will pay for itself within 5 years.

Compared to all these reasons, the mySQL part of the acquisition is small
potatoes.

Arthur

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Curtis Maurand cur...@maurand.com wrote:

 I figure that they'll either kill mysql or they'll limit the commnunity
 version in ways that will make you purchase a commercial version if you want
 to continue to use it.  I figure there will be heavy migrations to open
 source alternatives.

 --C


 Andy Shellam wrote:

 I've just been made aware by a client that Oracle have purchased Sun
 Microsystems.  The article below on Sun's website mentions that Oracle are
 committed to Linux and other open platforms and mentions the fact that
 Java touches practically every business system around.

 http://www.sun.com/third-party/global/oracle/index.jsp

 I wonder what Oracle's plans are when it comes to MySQL?  There is no
 mention of MySQL in the above article.  Will it eventually come under the
 Oracle umbrella, much like BerkeleyDB did?



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Re: A good US Hosting Site?

2009-04-20 Thread PJ
I've been using www.host45.com for some years.
linux and they've always been reliable. :-)

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Re: Sun bought by Oracle

2009-04-20 Thread Peter Brawley

... the points behind the purchase:
1. To obtain the Sun hardware and thus provide a 
complete hardware and software solution.
2. To further optimize Oracle to take full advantage 
of the Solaris OS.

3. To continue to support Linux.
4. To get Java and thus penetrate the mobile device 
marketplace.
5. And finally, to grow Oracle revenues by $1B+ a 
year and growing. Given the purchase price, the 
acquisition will pay for itself within 5 years.


An optimist wrote that. A pessimist, Larry Dignan at 
http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=16598tag=nl.e539, wrote point six:


Oracle gets to kill MySQL. There's no way Ellison will let that
open source database mess with the margins of his database.
MySQL at best will wither from neglect. In any case, MySQL
is MyToast.

We ought to know who's right within half a year.

PB

-

Arthur Fuller wrote:

I think that you'e being paranoid. IMO, Oracle will continue to support and
develop mySQL. Further, I think that these concerns about the future of
mySQL overlook the points behind the purchase:

1. To obtain the Sun hardware and thus provide a complete hardware and
software solution.
2. To further optimize Oracle to take full advantage of the Solaris OS.
3. To continue to support Linux.
4. To get Java and thus penetrate the mobile device marketplace.
5. And finally, to grow Oracle revenues by $1B+ a year and growing. Given
the purchase price, the acquisition will pay for itself within 5 years.

Compared to all these reasons, the mySQL part of the acquisition is small
potatoes.

Arthur

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Curtis Maurand cur...@maurand.com wrote:

  

I figure that they'll either kill mysql or they'll limit the commnunity
version in ways that will make you purchase a commercial version if you want
to continue to use it.  I figure there will be heavy migrations to open
source alternatives.

--C


Andy Shellam wrote:



I've just been made aware by a client that Oracle have purchased Sun
Microsystems.  The article below on Sun's website mentions that Oracle are
committed to Linux and other open platforms and mentions the fact that
Java touches practically every business system around.

http://www.sun.com/third-party/global/oracle/index.jsp

I wonder what Oracle's plans are when it comes to MySQL?  There is no
mention of MySQL in the above article.  Will it eventually come under the
Oracle umbrella, much like BerkeleyDB did?


  

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UNIX_TIMESTAMP - Can anyone explain this behavior?

2009-04-20 Thread Keith Hughitt
Hi all,

Does anyone know what is going on here:

//Query:

select UNIX_TIMESTAMP(TIMESTAMP('2003-01-01 00:00:00')) as first,
UNIX_TIMESTAMP(TIMESTAMP('2003-10-05 00:00:00')) as second,
UNIX_TIMESTAMP(TIMESTAMP('2004-01-01 00:00:00')) as third;

++++
| first  | second | third  |
++++
| 1041400800 | 106533 | 1072936800 |
++++

// Converting timestamps to UTC using linux date command (could also use
http://www.4webhelp.net/us/timestamp.php)

$ date -u -d @1072936800
Thu Jan  1 06:00:00 UTC 2004

$ date -u -d @1041400800
Wed Jan  1 06:00:00 UTC 2003

$ date -u -d @1064984400
Wed Oct  1 05:00:00 UTC 2003

MySQL seems to treat the local time as being UTC -6 hours in the first two
cases but as UTC -5 in other cases. The system local time appears to be
UTC-5 (EST):

// Attempting to determine MySQL's timezone offset:

select UNIX_TIMESTAMP(UTC_TIMESTAMP()) - UNIX_TIMESTAMP(now()) as offset:

++
| offset |
++
|  18000 |
++

which is consistent with the last result, but not the first two.

I have not yet tested more dates throughout the year to see when the change
occurs, and if there is a pattern, but I though I'd ask first to see if
anyone else has either
encountered this before, or knows what is going on?

I would like to be able to store some UTC datetimes in a system that uses
localtime, and then extract them as UTC timestamps again, which is why I'm
trying to figure
out the proper offset. On this particular system I also do not have the
ability to change the default timezone (e.g. to UTC/GMT), so I'm stuck with
using local dates.

Any suggestions? Any help would be greatly appreciated :)

Thanks!
-Keith


RE: Sun bought by Oracle

2009-04-20 Thread Michael . Coll-Barth
 

 From: Peter Brawley [mailto:peter.braw...@earthlink.net] 
 
 An optimist wrote that. A pessimist, Larry Dignan at 
 http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=16598tag=nl.e539, wrote point six:
 
 Oracle gets to kill MySQL. There's no way Ellison will let that
 open source database mess with the margins of his database.
 MySQL at best will wither from neglect. In any case, MySQL
 is MyToast.
 
 We ought to know who's right within half a year.
 

Is MySQL not Open Source?  Heck, I'd love to help with that.  We would
just have to change the name to something befitting the product.  MySQL
still tickles my MS warning alerts; My Pictures, My Music, My Videos,
etc.  How about 'GNO', pronounced like 'Know', stands for GNO's Not
Oracle?


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Re: Sun bought by Oracle

2009-04-20 Thread Eric Bergen
I don't think the purchase was about MySQL at all. I'm sure Oracle is
far more interested in java, zfs, and solaris than they are MySQL.
MySQL is just an added bonus that will go well with their acquisition
of Innobase Oy a few years ago. Oracle didn't kill InnoDB and it's not
very likely that they will kill MySQL. If you walk around the user
conference this week you will see why it would be incredibly stupid
try to try kill MySQL. Not that companies like Percona would let that
happen anyway. After all it is GPL.

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:02 AM,
michael.coll-ba...@verizonwireless.com wrote:


 From: Peter Brawley [mailto:peter.braw...@earthlink.net]

 An optimist wrote that. A pessimist, Larry Dignan at
 http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=16598tag=nl.e539, wrote point six:

 Oracle gets to kill MySQL. There's no way Ellison will let that
 open source database mess with the margins of his database.
 MySQL at best will wither from neglect. In any case, MySQL
 is MyToast.

 We ought to know who's right within half a year.


 Is MySQL not Open Source?  Heck, I'd love to help with that.  We would
 just have to change the name to something befitting the product.  MySQL
 still tickles my MS warning alerts; My Pictures, My Music, My Videos,
 etc.  How about 'GNO', pronounced like 'Know', stands for GNO's Not
 Oracle?


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Re: Small InnoDB table with many concurrent queries

2009-04-20 Thread Brent Baisley
MyISAM should be fine with many SELECTs running at once. Tables are
only locked for INSERTs DELETEs and UPDATEs, and conditionally at
that. You can set MySQL to always append INSERTs to the end of the
file so you can insert while selecting.

What is the whole picture? If you were having locking problems, you
are doing more than just a lot of SELECTs. How many inserts, updates,
deletes are you doing? If you are doing a lot of updates, even InnoDB
will block if you are trying to update the same record across queries.

If you have a lot of querying in sending data state, check which
ones are in a different state. One of those may be the culprit.

Brent Baisley

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:28 AM, living liquid | Christian Meisinger
c.meisin...@livingliquid.com wrote:
 Hi there.

 I've a small table with my daily banner hits.
 1. version was with myisam but with a lot of concurrent queries (all SELECTs) 
 i get too many table locks.
 so i changed it to an innodb table.
 works great most of the time.

 sometimes it seems to be too much, starting at about 500 concurrent queries i 
 see a huge amount of processes
 taking about 3 minutes to finish 'sending data'.

 the SELECT queries use the correct index and data returned is small (2 
 integers).

 the table has only 4MB and about 35000 rows.
 it can't be the size of the table...

 mysql server is connected with a 1G switch.
 so i don't think it's network related.

 mysql server is a dual xeon 2,3GHz with 8G ram and SCSI disk RAID5.

 did i hit a innodb limit with this server configuration?
 or is my my.cnf bad?

 my.cnf ---

 key_buffer              = 750M
 max_allowed_packet      = 32M
 table_cache             = 1
 sort_buffer_size        = 4M
 join_buffer_size        = 4M
 read_buffer_size        = 2M
 read_rnd_buffer_size    = 4M
 myisam_sort_buffer_size = 128M
 query_cache_size        = 750M
 query_cache_limit       = 16M
 thread_cache            = 32
 thread_concurrency      = 16

 tmp_table_size          = 700M
 max_heap_table_size     = 700M

 net_buffer_length = 16K

 skip-external-locking

 innodb_additional_mem_pool_size = 16M
 innodb_buffer_pool_size         = 2G
 innodb_thread_concurrency       = 16
 innodb_flush_log_at_trx_commit  = 2
 innodb_log_buffer_size          = 8M
 innodb_lock_wait_timeout        = 120
 innodb_log_file_size            = 256M
 innodb_log_files_in_group       = 3

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Re: Sun bought by Oracle

2009-04-20 Thread John Meyer
I'm wondering what the DOJ is going to think of that deal.

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Re: Sun bought by Oracle

2009-04-20 Thread Kaushal Shriyan
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 11:14 PM, John Meyer john.l.me...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm wondering what the DOJ is going to think of that deal.

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Re: Sun bought by Oracle

2009-04-20 Thread Claudio Nanni

We are talking of financial moves here.
I think nothing will be touched at least for first years, I don't see 
product or services overlapping.

Oracle is one thing, MySQL another.
If they are so crazy to 'shut-down' MySQL, the second after there would 
be the fork,

MySQL could be 'closed', but the community is and will always be open.
I, myself, I would stop using MySQL immediately and switch to drizzle or 
any other fork, or any other open project.


Cheers
Claudio


Eric Bergen wrote:

I don't think the purchase was about MySQL at all. I'm sure Oracle is
far more interested in java, zfs, and solaris than they are MySQL.
MySQL is just an added bonus that will go well with their acquisition
of Innobase Oy a few years ago. Oracle didn't kill InnoDB and it's not
very likely that they will kill MySQL. If you walk around the user
conference this week you will see why it would be incredibly stupid
try to try kill MySQL. Not that companies like Percona would let that
happen anyway. After all it is GPL.

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:02 AM,
michael.coll-ba...@verizonwireless.com wrote:
  


From: Peter Brawley [mailto:peter.braw...@earthlink.net]

An optimist wrote that. A pessimist, Larry Dignan at
http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=16598tag=nl.e539, wrote point six:

Oracle gets to kill MySQL. There's no way Ellison will let that
open source database mess with the margins of his database.
MySQL at best will wither from neglect. In any case, MySQL
is MyToast.

We ought to know who's right within half a year.

  

Is MySQL not Open Source?  Heck, I'd love to help with that.  We would
just have to change the name to something befitting the product.  MySQL
still tickles my MS warning alerts; My Pictures, My Music, My Videos,
etc.  How about 'GNO', pronounced like 'Know', stands for GNO's Not
Oracle?


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RE: A good US Hosting Site?

2009-04-20 Thread Mark
-Original Message-
From: Claudio Nanni [mailto:claudio.na...@gmail.com] 
Sent: maandag 20 april 2009 17:22
To: Mark
Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com
Subject: Re: A good US Hosting Site?

 Well,
 
 not a joke for free hosting.
 
 But it is, for me, by far the best hosting site.
 
 Compleat, easy to use, five subdomains, and also mysql included.
 
 Paid hosting is outstanding.

Yeah, but a Maximum file size limit 500 KB, what can you do with that??
Your average background image is bigger! Not to mention my MySQL
databases. Sorry to say, but a 500KB file limit makes hosting there
useless, IMHO.

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Re: A good US Hosting Site?

2009-04-20 Thread David Giragosian
I would recommend PilotPig  http://www.pilotpig.net/ 

Good service, good support, reasonably priced, and integrity to boot.

David


Re: Sun bought by Oracle

2009-04-20 Thread Michael Backhaus
Quite frankly, if MySQL gets neglected in the future, I'll switch to  
PostgreSQL, as simple as that.
However, the acquisition of Sun does place Oracle in an interesting  
market position - the enterprise Apple as mentioned in the ZDNet  
article. Let's see and hope the best.


Cheers,
Michael

On 21/04/2009, at 6:16 AM, Claudio Nanni wrote:


We are talking of financial moves here.
I think nothing will be touched at least for first years, I don't  
see product or services overlapping.

Oracle is one thing, MySQL another.
If they are so crazy to 'shut-down' MySQL, the second after there  
would be the fork,

MySQL could be 'closed', but the community is and will always be open.
I, myself, I would stop using MySQL immediately and switch to  
drizzle or any other fork, or any other open project.


Cheers
Claudio


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Re: A good US Hosting Site?

2009-04-20 Thread Claudio Nanni

Mark wrote:



Yeah, but a Maximum file size limit 500 KB, what can you do with that??
Your average background image is bigger! Not to mention my MySQL
  
really? you use background images bigger than 500kb? lucky if you get a 
second visit!

mysql database of course has nothing to do with that limit.


databases. Sorry to say, but a 500KB file limit makes hosting there
useless, IMHO.

- Mark


  



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RE: A good US Hosting Site?

2009-04-20 Thread Mark
-Original Message-
From: Claudio Nanni [mailto:claudio.na...@gmail.com] 
Sent: maandag 20 april 2009 22:29
To: Mark
Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com
Subject: Re: A good US Hosting Site?

 Mark wrote:

  Yeah, but a Maximum file size limit 500 KB, what can you do with
  that?? Your average background image is bigger! Not to mention my
  MySQL
   
 really? you use background images bigger than 500kb? lucky if you
 get a second visit! mysql database of course has nothing to do with
 that limit.

Yes, really. :) Besides, it's not just images, also all kinds of data
files, like .swf and such: 500KB is just ridiculously small. I have a
client here with an elegant photo gallery, and a quick 'find' shows that
13% of all its files are  500KB.

Fortunately, it seems that absurd limit just exists for the free hosting.
So, I may consider them after all, as there's no such thing as a free
lunch, and their paid plans seem very reasonable.

And, indeed, looks like their MySQL databases were never included in
said limit to begin with.

- Mark


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Re: Sun bought by Oracle

2009-04-20 Thread John Meyer
Yep. In particular the anti-trust division of the DOJ.
Kaushal Shriyan wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 11:14 PM, John Meyer john.l.me...@gmail.com
 mailto:john.l.me...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm wondering what the DOJ is going to think of that deal.

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Re: Sun bought by Oracle

2009-04-20 Thread Manish Gupta
http://www.sun.com/third-party/global/oracle/

anyone saw this ??

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 2:54 AM, John Meyer john.l.me...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yep. In particular the anti-trust division of the DOJ.
 Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
 
  On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 11:14 PM, John Meyer john.l.me...@gmail.com
  mailto:john.l.me...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I'm wondering what the DOJ is going to think of that deal.
 
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