Using Open Source Database

2009-08-27 Thread Sameh Attia
Hi,
   Part of our road map is to use an open source database besides commercial
databases (oracle and sql server), we need to select an open source database
to build the necessary skills for administration and operation.

Then we would put guidelines on which applications should use open source
database and which to use Oracle.
Then migrate these applications to the new open source database.

 Part of this exercise is a financial exercise on the savings resulting from
this transformation (CAPEX  OPEX). So do you have any pointers, case
studies, and so on?
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Re: Fail to change MySQL data directory on ubuntu

2009-08-27 Thread Claudio Nanni
2009/8/26 chen jia chen.1...@gmail.com

 Hi there,

 I am using MySQL on ubuntu 8.04.

 I followed this link

 http://www.ubuntu-howto.info/howto/how-to-move-mysql-databases-to-another-location-partition-or-hard-drive
 to change the data directory of MySQL.

 After stopping MySQL: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop

 I make a new directory: sudo mkdir /media/disk/MySQL_data

 then change the ownership of new directory, sudo chown mysql:mysql
 /media/disk/MySQL_data

 and copy all data to the new directory, cp -r -p /var/lib/mysql/*
 /media/disk/MySQL_data/ and deleted all files like ibdata1,


Chen, Did you really delete ibdata1 ?







 ib_logfile0, and ib_logfile1.

 I then edit /etc/mysql/my.conf and update the datadir to my new
 directory. I also update /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysql so that news
 lines with /var/lib/mysql replaced by /media/disk/MySQL_data are
 added.

 However, after sudo /etc/init.d/apparmor reload

 I try sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start

 I got
 * Starting MySQL database server mysqld
[fail]

 If I change the datadir line in /etc/mysql/my.conf back to the
 original one, I can start MySQL successfully.

 I think I have done everything needed to change MySQL data directory.

 Why am I still getting this error?  Where can I start to look for the
 causes?

 Thanks.

 Jia

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XAMMP and Mysql error

2009-08-27 Thread TESSIER Gabriel

Hi,

From yesterday 2009-08-26 i have an error message when my computer 
start. The mysqld.exe crash blablabla


I search on g**gle 006B8853mysqld.exe and i find somebody in this 
mailing with this problem!!


I don't change anything in my mysql config file, cause i didn't use 
mysql during the last month.

I make some tests :

1- I lanch the mysql service --- ERROR
the service command launched :

C:\Program Files\Quiz\mysql\bin\mysqld --defaults-file=C:\Program 
Files\Quiz\mysql\bin\my.cnf mysql

The files mysqld and my.cnf are used bellow so the 2 files work fine.

2- I lanch the mysql in console : mysql\bin\mysqld 
--defaults-file=mysql\bin\my.cnf --standalone --console --- OK


I have the following version : MySQL 5.1.30 (Community Server)

Here the err file :

090827 10:26:54 - mysqld got exception 0xc005 ;
This could be because you hit a bug. It is also possible that this binary
or one of the libraries it was linked against is corrupt, improperly built,
or misconfigured. This error can also be caused by malfunctioning hardware.
We will try our best to scrape up some info that will hopefully help 
diagnose
the problem, but since we have already crashed, something is definitely 
wrong

and this may fail.

key_buffer_size=16777216
read_buffer_size=262144
max_used_connections=0
max_threads=151
threads_connected=0
It is possible that mysqld could use up to
key_buffer_size + (read_buffer_size + sort_buffer_size)*max_threads = 
133305 K

bytes of memory
Hope that's ok; if not, decrease some variables in the equation.

thd: 0x0
Attempting backtrace. You can use the following information to find out
where mysqld died. If you see no messages after this, something went
terribly wrong...
006B8853mysqld.exe!???
The manual page at http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/crashing.html contains
information that should help you find out what is causing the crash.


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Re: Using Open Source Database

2009-08-27 Thread Colin Streicher
On Thursday 27 August 2009 03:35:19 am Sameh Attia wrote:
 Hi,
Part of our road map is to use an open source database besides
 commercial databases (oracle and sql server), we need to select an open
 source database to build the necessary skills fo

I know this is a mysql mailing list, but I strongly encourage having a good 
look at Postgresql. In my opinion, it is better suited for a commercial 
database environment than mysql. 
If you are curious, join the Postgresql general mailing list and watch the 
traffic for a couple days, see what others are using it for. 

Colin

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Viable alternatives to SQL?

2009-08-27 Thread Kelly Jones
Many sites let you search databases of information, but the search
queries are very limited.

I'm creating a site that'll allow arbitrary SQL queries to my data (I
realize I'll need to handle injection attacks).

Are there other viable ways to query data? I read a little on
Business System 12 (BS12), Tutorial D, and even something called
T-SQL (I think), but they all seem theoretical and not fully
implemented.

I want a query language that non-techies can use easily, but also
supports arbitrarily complex queries. Does such a language exist?

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Re: Viable alternatives to SQL?

2009-08-27 Thread John Meyer

Kelly Jones wrote:

Many sites let you search databases of information, but the search
queries are very limited.

I'm creating a site that'll allow arbitrary SQL queries to my data (I
realize I'll need to handle injection attacks).

Are there other viable ways to query data? I read a little on
Business System 12 (BS12), Tutorial D, and even something called
T-SQL (I think), but they all seem theoretical and not fully
implemented.

  

T-SQL stands for Transact-SQL, which is Microsoft's implementation of SQL

I want a query language that non-techies can use easily, but also
supports arbitrarily complex queries. Does such a language exist?

  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL#Alternatives_to_SQL


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Re: Fail to change MySQL data directory on ubuntu

2009-08-27 Thread Jia Chen

 Chen, Did you really delete ibdata1 ?

Yes, I did.

Best,
Jia


Claudio Nanni wrote:



2009/8/26 chen jia chen.1...@gmail.com mailto:chen.1...@gmail.com

Hi there,

I am using MySQL on ubuntu 8.04.

I followed this link

http://www.ubuntu-howto.info/howto/how-to-move-mysql-databases-to-another-location-partition-or-hard-drive
to change the data directory of MySQL.

After stopping MySQL: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop

I make a new directory: sudo mkdir /media/disk/MySQL_data

then change the ownership of new directory, sudo chown mysql:mysql
/media/disk/MySQL_data

and copy all data to the new directory, cp -r -p /var/lib/mysql/*
/media/disk/MySQL_data/ and deleted all files like ibdata1,


Chen, Did you really delete ibdata1 ?



 




ib_logfile0, and ib_logfile1.

I then edit /etc/mysql/my.conf and update the datadir to my new
directory. I also update /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysql so that news
lines with /var/lib/mysql replaced by /media/disk/MySQL_data are
added.

However, after sudo /etc/init.d/apparmor reload

I try sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start

I got
* Starting MySQL database server mysqld
   [fail]

If I change the datadir line in /etc/mysql/my.conf back to the
original one, I can start MySQL successfully.

I think I have done everything needed to change MySQL data directory.

Why am I still getting this error?  Where can I start to look for
the causes?

Thanks.

Jia

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RE: Viable alternatives to SQL?

2009-08-27 Thread Jerry Schwartz
-Original Message-
From: Kelly Jones [mailto:kelly.terry.jo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:44 AM
To: mysql@lists.mysql.com
Subject: Viable alternatives to SQL?

Many sites let you search databases of information, but the search
queries are very limited.

I'm creating a site that'll allow arbitrary SQL queries to my data (I
realize I'll need to handle injection attacks).

[JS] Taking you literally, wouldn't that presume that your users have
knowledge of the underlying database structure?

If not, then I think you'll need to go with fill in the blanks type of
query form.

Regards,
 
Jerry Schwartz
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860.674.8796 / FAX: 860.674.8341
 
www.the-infoshop.com




Are there other viable ways to query data? I read a little on
Business System 12 (BS12), Tutorial D, and even something called
T-SQL (I think), but they all seem theoretical and not fully
implemented.

I want a query language that non-techies can use easily, but also
supports arbitrarily complex queries. Does such a language exist?

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RE: Viable alternatives to SQL?

2009-08-27 Thread Gavin Towey
Isn't that basically the same as pointing phpmyadmin at a read-only copy of the 
data?

There's a reason most searches are limited; when you most people too many 
options, it's confusing.  Good interfaces hide complexity from the end user.


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From: Jerry Schwartz [mailto:jschwa...@the-infoshop.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:08 AM
To: 'Kelly Jones'; mysql@lists.mysql.com
Subject: RE: Viable alternatives to SQL?

-Original Message-
From: Kelly Jones [mailto:kelly.terry.jo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:44 AM
To: mysql@lists.mysql.com
Subject: Viable alternatives to SQL?

Many sites let you search databases of information, but the search
queries are very limited.

I'm creating a site that'll allow arbitrary SQL queries to my data (I
realize I'll need to handle injection attacks).

[JS] Taking you literally, wouldn't that presume that your users have
knowledge of the underlying database structure?

If not, then I think you'll need to go with fill in the blanks type of
query form.

Regards,

Jerry Schwartz
The Infoshop by Global Information Incorporated
195 Farmington Ave.
Farmington, CT 06032

860.674.8796 / FAX: 860.674.8341

www.the-infoshop.com




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Re: Fail to change MySQL data directory on ubuntu

2009-08-27 Thread Eric Bergen
That procedure is horribly incorrect. You should simply move the
ib_log and ibdata files with the rest of the datadir. The ibdata1 file
contains innodb's system tables and depending on your setting of
innodb_file_per_table it also contains your data!

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Jia Chenchen.1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Chen, Did you really delete ibdata1 ?

 Yes, I did.

 Best,
 Jia


 Claudio Nanni wrote:


 2009/8/26 chen jia chen.1...@gmail.com mailto:chen.1...@gmail.com

    Hi there,

    I am using MySQL on ubuntu 8.04.

    I followed this link

  http://www.ubuntu-howto.info/howto/how-to-move-mysql-databases-to-another-location-partition-or-hard-drive
    to change the data directory of MySQL.

    After stopping MySQL: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop

    I make a new directory: sudo mkdir /media/disk/MySQL_data

    then change the ownership of new directory, sudo chown mysql:mysql
    /media/disk/MySQL_data

    and copy all data to the new directory, cp -r -p /var/lib/mysql/*
    /media/disk/MySQL_data/ and deleted all files like ibdata1,


 Chen, Did you really delete ibdata1 ?






    ib_logfile0, and ib_logfile1.

    I then edit /etc/mysql/my.conf and update the datadir to my new
    directory. I also update /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysql so that news
    lines with /var/lib/mysql replaced by /media/disk/MySQL_data are
    added.

    However, after sudo /etc/init.d/apparmor reload

    I try sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start

    I got
    * Starting MySQL database server mysqld
           [fail]

    If I change the datadir line in /etc/mysql/my.conf back to the
    original one, I can start MySQL successfully.

    I think I have done everything needed to change MySQL data directory.

    Why am I still getting this error?  Where can I start to look for
    the causes?

    Thanks.

    Jia

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Re: Fail to change MySQL data directory on ubuntu

2009-08-27 Thread Jia Chen

Thanks for the tips. Where can I find more details about the ibdata file?

After I changed the data dir, hese file did get recreated. So far, I 
have not noticed any data loss yet.


Best,
Jia

Eric Bergen wrote:

That procedure is horribly incorrect. You should simply move the
ib_log and ibdata files with the rest of the datadir. The ibdata1 file
contains innodb's system tables and depending on your setting of
innodb_file_per_table it also contains your data!

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Jia Chenchen.1...@gmail.com wrote:
  

Chen, Did you really delete ibdata1 ?
  

Yes, I did.

Best,
Jia


Claudio Nanni wrote:


2009/8/26 chen jia chen.1...@gmail.com mailto:chen.1...@gmail.com

   Hi there,

   I am using MySQL on ubuntu 8.04.

   I followed this link

 
http://www.ubuntu-howto.info/howto/how-to-move-mysql-databases-to-another-location-partition-or-hard-drive
   to change the data directory of MySQL.

   After stopping MySQL: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop

   I make a new directory: sudo mkdir /media/disk/MySQL_data

   then change the ownership of new directory, sudo chown mysql:mysql
   /media/disk/MySQL_data

   and copy all data to the new directory, cp -r -p /var/lib/mysql/*
   /media/disk/MySQL_data/ and deleted all files like ibdata1,


Chen, Did you really delete ibdata1 ?






   ib_logfile0, and ib_logfile1.

   I then edit /etc/mysql/my.conf and update the datadir to my new
   directory. I also update /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysql so that news
   lines with /var/lib/mysql replaced by /media/disk/MySQL_data are
   added.

   However, after sudo /etc/init.d/apparmor reload

   I try sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start

   I got
   * Starting MySQL database server mysqld
  [fail]

   If I change the datadir line in /etc/mysql/my.conf back to the
   original one, I can start MySQL successfully.

   I think I have done everything needed to change MySQL data directory.

   Why am I still getting this error?  Where can I start to look for
   the causes?

   Thanks.

   Jia

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Getting mySQL to ignore case sensitivity of field names

2009-08-27 Thread Adrian Aitken
Hi, Google isn't my friend :-(
How can I tell mySQL 5.0 to ignore the case of field names i.e. FullName 
should also be able to be referenced as fullname,fullNAME etc ?
I'm running it on a linux box at home but my copy at work (running on 
Windows 2000 server) has this by default - I certainly set any options.
When I Google all I seem to get are hits about ignoring case in select query 
values not field names.

Many thanks
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Re: Getting mySQL to ignore case sensitivity of field names

2009-08-27 Thread Scott Haneda

http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/case-sensitivity.html
You need to set the field format to a non binary one, and case  
insensitive will be the default.


On Aug 27, 2009, at 2:57 PM, Adrian Aitken wrote:


Hi, Google isn't my friend :-(
How can I tell mySQL 5.0 to ignore the case of field names i.e.  
FullName

should also be able to be referenced as fullname,fullNAME etc ?
I'm running it on a linux box at home but my copy at work (running on
Windows 2000 server) has this by default - I certainly set any  
options.
When I Google all I seem to get are hits about ignoring case in  
select query

values not field names.


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Re: Getting mySQL to ignore case sensitivity of field names

2009-08-27 Thread Adrian Aitken
Hi Scott, it's not the values I have a problem with, it's the fieldnames 
themselves. As an example the mysql.user table has 'Host' but when I do an 
update setting 'host' to a value it fails to update. I have to enter 'Host'. 
The mysql.com link seems to only talk about field values.

Regards
Adrian

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http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/case-sensitivity.html
You need to set the field format to a non binary one, and case
insensitive will be the default.


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Re: Getting mySQL to ignore case sensitivity of field names

2009-08-27 Thread Scott Haneda

Oops, sorry about that.  My understanding is this is OS dependent:
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/identifier-case-sensitivity.html

You may be able to set lowercase tables names, but would always have  
to use lowercase.  I would just stick to entering in the correct case,  
as the other methods seem prone to trouble.


On Aug 27, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Scott Haneda wrote:


http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/case-sensitivity.html
You need to set the field format to a non binary one, and case  
insensitive will be the default.


On Aug 27, 2009, at 2:57 PM, Adrian Aitken wrote:


Hi, Google isn't my friend :-(
How can I tell mySQL 5.0 to ignore the case of field names i.e.  
FullName

should also be able to be referenced as fullname,fullNAME etc ?
I'm running it on a linux box at home but my copy at work (running on
Windows 2000 server) has this by default - I certainly set any  
options.
When I Google all I seem to get are hits about ignoring case in  
select query

values not field names.




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Re: Getting mySQL to ignore case sensitivity of field names

2009-08-27 Thread Paul DuBois


On Aug 27, 2009, at 5:11 PM, Adrian Aitken wrote:

Hi Scott, it's not the values I have a problem with, it's the  
fieldnames
themselves. As an example the mysql.user table has 'Host' but when I  
do an
update setting 'host' to a value it fails to update. I have to enter  
'Host'.

The mysql.com link seems to only talk about field values.


That should not happen. Column names are not case sensitive in MySQL.

http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/identifier-case-sensitivity.html:

Column, index, and stored routine names are not case sensitive on any  
platform, nor are column aliases.


Can we see your query?



Regards
Adrian

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Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com
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Subject: Re: Getting mySQL to ignore case sensitivity of field names


http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/case-sensitivity.html
You need to set the field format to a non binary one, and case
insensitive will be the default.


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