Re: GA download reverted back to 5.5.24?
Oracle have been quick to announce new releases of mysql, but failed to issue a notice saying uhoh, you better not use it instead, putting a small notice, where, on a fricken manual page FFS. who the hell reads that! and they say use version a which does not even exist, I'd hate to think of how many high profile sites are at risk of being screwed over by yet MORE oracle incompetence. No one would think any less of them if they sent that notice, many would be appreciative, but to hide such a serious issue that was enough for them to withdraw and remove that version, is outright despicable. I can't explain Oracle official behavior. It does seem odd when seen from the way you put it. And AFAICT you make great points. It's just that hostility makes it harder to hear the valid points, and also that when relative newbies like me see guys like (at least) Shawn Green post really coherent and helpful messages here (not to mention all the things we love and rely on about MySQL daily) then we have to assume (and hope) that there are great sincere people who actually do their level best when they work on MySQL... and the lack-of-appreciation tone does not do justice to the guys who are really trying, nor to us users who don't do anything but use the free stuff and contribute only by our comments. I don't want to give you a hard time either. I just desire some appreciation woven into the mix... enough to clutter this technical list with this. -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
Re: GA download reverted back to 5.5.24?
That was nice of oracle to announce this wasn't it ...(/sarcasm) I am not aligned with any side.. and I am also not known/qualified/respected in this group enough to make much of a statement... but: IMHO, In almost all matters, *appreciation* is the only approach that will serve... let alone sustain happiness... ...and especially when we consider what little we must give to have right to use MySQL. Sure, desire for better communication/usability makes total sense.. but I am just also observing/suggesting: please add (positively) to the atmosphere.. for everyones' sake. Just us humans under the hood. -Govinda -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
Re: MySQL Community Server 5.1.63 has been released
Bugs Fixed * Security Fix: Bug #64884 was fixed. * Security Fix: Bug #59387 was fixed. Anyone want to elaborate on the nature or severity of the security problem? Both are private / inaccessible to me. Bug #64884 was apparently also applicable to, and fixed in 5.5.24 - would be very good to know what the vulnerabilities were, so we know wether or not they apply to us. Not, it seems. Must've been some pretty ugly critters, to get the silent treatment. Thanks for at least saying this ^^^ . I was wondering too what was the nature of those vulnerabilities. Which reminds me... and maybe I am asking something obvious to others (?) - In the PHP circles, as soon as any newbie comes along and shows code that makes it evident they are not using prepared statements, or PDO, to talk to their MySQL db, then some expert yells at them to do so... citing that escaping (i.e. mysql_real_escape_string() ) is no longer valid/secure, etc. There was a famous talk by a security guy whose name I forget (Dan ___ ?) that bashed on the whole concept of escaping.. pointing out that now with UTF and code points one never knows what characters are going to be represented by escaped input, and so escape attempts might miss. There is that famous example of that charset (I forget, was it a Chinese charset?) where mysql_real_escape_string() would allow a code point to be represented as a single quote (right? I am not looking in my notes to be sure of these details,.. but you guys familiar with all this know very well and can correct me?). Anyway my understanding was that a MySQL patch came out to address that. True? When security patches come along (like the above 5.5.24), I wonder if they might have to do with addressing another example of where mysql_real_escape_string() may have failed. (?) 1.) Is anyone *who knows what he is doing* still using mysql_real_escape_string()? Ever? 2.) Can anyone get past the rhetoric/buzz and actually point out with authority a way to hack (SQL inject) past mysql_real_escape_string() with UTF-8 db/table/collation, from a UTF-8 PHP script? Or is the argument against escaping (in the case when using UTF-8) just only fear-based? 3.) Do we understand/expect that the MySQL team makes a point (and concerted effort) to keep mysql_real_escape_string() current, so that in case any new security holes are found, they are patched? Or have even the MySQL devs completely abandoned escaping in favor of prepared statements, along with all the buzzy articles and pseudo experts? I am not attached to escaping, just would like to know what is really going on behind the scenes, and also I have legacy code that uses escaping (and not prepared statements) and I want to get a sense of its shelf life. More than anything I would like to just shed light on this topic from those who KNOW. I have read a lot of rhetoric, but not seen much truly authoritative writing. Thanks, -Govinda -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
Re: [First email] Problem with backup and ID's for a Database with INNODB
Hello, I'm new here, so since this is my first question email, I'm looking for an advice/help a way to do it or a link which can explain me more about my related question. [snip] Carlos, you might have better luck if you break the problem down into smaller pieces.. both to make it easier for you to debug, and also easier to ask one small thing at a time on this list. -Govinda -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
Re: delete all hosts using a wildcard
I think what Paul (who wrote a book on MySQL, by the way) was getting at was that you risk what database folk call referential integrity issues if you mess with *any* data without knowing where else it is used. [snip]... that was really an important post, excellently written! -Govinda -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
Re: Date and Time
What's your problem/reason with how it is? I assume Andy means: leave it stored as a timestamp type or datetime type, and when you need to display it otherwise.. then covert with date() -G -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
Re: Date and Time
leave it stored as a timestamp type or datetime type, and when you need to display it otherwise.. then covert with date() oops, Paul's post reminded me I was suggesting a PHP function here ^^^ ... and this is the MySQL list. -G -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
Re: why does basic MySQLdump on db table fail with Permission denied, or else it creates a zero KB file
..which I just (earlier this morning) changed to this: export PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/mysql/bin:/usr/local/mysql/bin/mysqldump:$PATH You are missing a point, that the proper thing for PATH is directory (or effective directory), not runfile in directory. This, therefore, is more right: PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/mysql/bin:/usr/local/mysql/bin:$PATH After this, surely, you can run mysqldump or mysql or mysqlbinlog or OK, yes, that makes sense. Thanks. Note though, then that '/usr/local/mysql/bin' path is redundant; it was already there (the preceding path). I also discovered from researching the '/etc/paths.d' dir... where one can store files named after commands one wants to run, whose contents is the paths to those commands. I am now able to run mysqldump or mysql directly. Thanks to everyone who replied! For the archives, should any newbie actually find this thread on topic for where he/she is stuck, please note this (another great resource for driving mysql, and everything else CL related) - http://superuser.com/ -Govinda -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
Re: why does basic MySQLdump on db table fail with Permission denied, or else it creates a zero KB file
/bin Govind% ls -al total 251832 drwxr-xr-x 44 root wheel 1496 Dec 29 09:57 . drwxr-xr-x 16 root wheel 544 Jul 13 16:23 .. -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 14656 Jul 13 15:44 innochecksum -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1424 Jul 13 15:43 msql2mysql [snip] -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4202416 Jul 13 15:49 mysql -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 4220112 Jul 13 15:49 mysql_client_test [snip] -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3895272 Jul 13 15:49 mysqldump -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7402 Jul 13 15:43 mysqldumpslow [snip] -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 2952616 Jul 13 15:44 resolveip How about echo $PATH? Govind% echo $PATH /usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/git/bin:/usr/X11/bin I don't have the official binary distribution in front of me, but once you get locate working, you can add the path of your MySQL binaries to the $PATH variable by appending it (preceded by a colon) to the $PATH declaration in your shell's startup script. If I follow your directions to the letter, then I would make my ~/.profile contents this: export PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/mysql/bin:/usr/local/mysql-5.5.15-osx10.6-x86_64/bin/mysqldump:$PATH ..but I instead tried this: export PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/mysql/bin:/usr/local/mysql/bin/mysqldump:$PATH ...and then when i attempt the same mysqldump as I successfully do, but with the shortcut path to mysqldump, like so: Govind% mysqldump -uroot -p myDBname myTableName /Users/Govind/myTestDumpedTable.sql ..then it still gives me: mysqldump: Command not found. Whatever is the thorough answer here, I assume it will allow me to also log into mysql without using a full path (as I currently have to do) Anyway, I would just make my ~/.profile contents this: export PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/mysql/bin:/usr/local/mysql-5.5.15-osx10.6-x86_64/bin/mysqldump:$PATH ..but I am hesitant to tread much further without understanding why my ~/.profile contents is currently this: export PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/mysql/bin:/usr/local/mysql/bin/mysqldump:$PATH ..but I do not see that new path to mysqldump here: Govind% echo $PATH /usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/git/bin:/usr/X11/bin ...nor here: Govind% printenv PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/git/bin:/usr/X11/bin [snip] I use git commands without full path, from any directory, successfully, so I know this is right: Govind% echo $PATH /usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/git/bin:/usr/X11/bin ..so then why is there no mention of git in ~/.profile ? Again, I sincerely appreciate your time and efforts on my behalf Jan!! And I will not feel disappointed in the least if you do not reply, as I KNOW this whole thread is not deep into the territory of: NOT a direct MySQL question, and RTFM. :-) -Govinda -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
Re: why does basic MySQLdump on db table fail with Permission denied, or else it creates a zero KB file
So then I try (in Mac OS X Terminal, while logged in as me (not root)): mysqldump -uroot -p myDBname myTableName ~/myTestDumpedTable.sql ...and again it produces: sh: mysqldump: command not found.. that is because Mac OSX is missing a package-managment and so you need a little knowledge about your OS to fix the PATH or you have to use full-qualified calls or configure/install your software to locations. How did you get your copy of MySQL? I don't remember for sure.. but think I just went to the MySQL site and downloaded whatever looked like the right version for my environment. I used to use the one included with Mac OS 10.5, but when I upgraded to 10.6, then it no longer worked.. so I had to re-install MySQL. If you're using MacOS X Server, it should be in /usr/bin, which should be in your default $PATH, or else you couldn't do ANYTHING, including ls. And for the record, there are at least two excellent package managers available for Mac OS, and either MacPorts or Fink should append the proper path to their binaries to the $PATH variable so they can be found. (Although you need to log out and log back in to have your shell's .rc file executed.) Or else you built from source, in which case, you should know how to fix your $PATH. You may have guessed I am pretty much in over my head with running servers.. so I am just glad I have so far managed to do everything I need to develop, if not look smart on lists like this ;-) I have notes somewhere in my stuff about how to get $PATH to include where mysql actually lives, but once I realized what the issue was (in my OP this thread) then I was fine with just using a full path for now. The convenience of a 'fixed' $PATH will be nice, sooner or later (when I get to it), but for now it is just as well that I let it beat into my head how the CL is actually working (working out the full paths) What does locate mysqldump tell you? Govind% locate mysqldump WARNING: The locate database (/var/db/locate.database) does not exist. To create the database, run the following command: sudo launchctl load -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.locate.plist Please be aware that the database can take some time to generate; once the database has been created, this message will no longer appear. Govind% sudo launchctl load -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.locate.plist Password: Govind% locate mysqldump WARNING: The locate database (/var/db/locate.database) does not exist. To create the database, run the following command: sudo launchctl load -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.locate.plist Please be aware that the database can take some time to generate; once the database has been created, this message will no longer appear. Huh? Password was right.. but 'sudo launchctl load -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.locate.plist' seemed to have no effect. (Again, way over my head for now). How about echo $PATH? Govind% echo $PATH /usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/git/bin:/usr/X11/bin Thanks for poking :-) -Govinda -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
Re: why does basic MySQLdump on db table fail with Permission denied, or else it creates a zero KB file
[snip] that is because Mac OSX is missing a package-managment and so you need a little knowledge about your OS to fix the PATH or you have to use full-qualified calls or configure/install your software to locations which are already in the path which mysqldump as normal user wil tell you where it is really [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ which mysqldump /usr/bin/mysqldump Thank you Richard, Andy, and Reindl ! Of course you all nailed it. Reindl, I especially appreciate you addressing each point, as it pointed me in the right direction to fill in the understanding-holes on all those topics! Some things I (partially) knew, but did not remember today because I don't have to deal in these areas much. For right now, I just used full paths both for the command and for the output. Just a side note, that: Govind% which mysqldump mysqldump: Command not found. Govind% which /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysqldump /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysqldump kind of defeats the purpose of having to know the path in advance in order to use the command to detect the path ;-) -Govinda -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
why does basic MySQLdump on db table fail with Permission denied, or else it creates a zero KB file
Hi Everyone This should be quick and simple, but after researching on Google quite a bit I am still stumped. I am mostly newbie with: server admin, CLI, MySQL. I am developing my PHP site locally, and now need to move some new MySQL tables from my local dev setup to the remote testing site. First step for me is just to dump the tables, one at a time. I successfully login to my local MySQL like so: Govind% /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysql -uroot but while in this dir (and NOT logged into MySQL): /usr/local/mysql/bin ...when I try this: mysqldump -uroot -p myDBname myTableName myTestDumpedTable.sql ..then I keep getting this: myTestDumpedTable.sql: Permission denied. Same result if I do any variation on that (try to dump the whole db, drop the '-p', etc.) On StackOverflow I asked this question [1], and replies there led me to trying being logged in as root user, and then (the same): mysqldump -uroot -p myDBname myTableName myTestDumpedTable.sql produces: sh: mysqldump: command not found ...which is odd because it does produce a zero-KB file named myTestDumpedTable.sql in that dir. So then I try (in Mac OS X Terminal, while logged in as me (not root)): mysqldump -uroot -p myDBname myTableName ~/myTestDumpedTable.sql ...and again it produces: sh: mysqldump: command not found... and again a zero-KB file named myTestDumpedTable.sql, in ~/ I am embarrassed as I am sure this is going to be incredibly simple, or just reveal a gaping (basic) hole in my knowledge. .. but I would appreciate any help ;-) [1] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8663454/why-does-basic-mysqldump-on-db-table-fail-with-permission-denied Thanks -Govinda -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
Re: delete syntax
well, i am using delete/insert-statements since 10 years to maintain users since you only have to know the tables in the database mysql and use flush privileges after changes The privileges should be maintained only using the designated commands. You cannot rely on the knowledge you have of the underlying implementation which can change anytime , while the privileges command are standard. do what you think is good for you if YOU can't be sure what you do [snip] so please do not tell other peopole on what knowledge they can rely *all* the back and forth in these threads is good.. is susses out all the knowledge for everyone to see. Sincerely thanks to everyone who chimes in from all perspectives, -Govinda -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql
Re: Inserting a new row
Hi, I'm a novice to MySQL and am currently facing the following difficulty. I'm trying to update a table with a row of data the primary key of which is an ID which I believe is an auto incrementing serial number. My first question is how to check if this is the case. Hi Toni from the command line (or else how are you using mysql?), type this: mysql desc yourTableName; ..which will give you back a description of your table, something like this: ++---+--+-+-+-+ | Field | Type | Null | Key | Default | Extra | ++---+--+-+-+-+ | userID | mediumint(9) | NO | PRI | NULL| auto_increment | | firstname | varchar(100) | NO | | NULL | | | lastname | varchar(100) | NO | | NULL | | | primaryEmail | varchar(100) | NO | | NULL | | ++---+--+-+-+-+ 4 rows in set (0.00 sec) See in my case it is telling me that userID is an integer type, a primary key (or has a primary key, however we say that), and that it is set to auto_increment. Secondly while trying to insert such a row leaving out this column mySql is inserting the row at ID 0 (the previous ID's in the table are from 1 to 9), but then will not take further inserts. hmmm... I am also relative newbie with mysql, but I am guessing this means that your ID field is not set to auto_increment. FIx that, and then test. -Govinda -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql?unsub=arch...@jab.org
Re: New-be: problem installing on Mac SO10.6
...as Brandon said.. from terminal you have to type something to get into mysql, and if you are like me, then that is: /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysql -Govinda I installed Mysql using the .dmg package. I can use System Preferences to start and stop the program. When I open a terminal window, I think this is the way to us the program, any Mysql command I inter is not recognized. Thanks Roger -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql?unsub=arch...@jab.org
Re: New-be: problem installing on Mac SO10.6
...as Brandon said.. from terminal you have to type something to get into mysql, and if you are like me, then that is: /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysql Oh, I forgot to add - but you might need to be super user first. su (input pass..) -Govinda I installed Mysql using the .dmg package. I can use System Preferences to start and stop the program. When I open a terminal window, I think this is the way to us the program, any Mysql command I inter is not recognized. Thanks Roger -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql?unsub=arch...@jab.org
Re: New-be: problem installing on Mac SO10.6
...as Brandon said.. from terminal you have to type something to get into mysql, and if you are like me, then that is: /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysql Oh, I forgot to add - but you might need to be super user first. su (input pass..) why in the world should someone call the mysql-cli as root? answer: just because he (I) was developing locally (and so was not worried about it), is newbie, and because it worked - so he did not pursue learning further how to get into mysql without being su. NEVER call anything as root if not really needed, NEVER [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ mysql -u root -p Enter password: Welcome to the MySQL monitor. Commands end with ; or \g. Your MySQL connection id is 715 Server version: 5.5.17-log thelounge.net build anyway, now I discovered this works (when there is no pass set up yet, apparently) - /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysql -u root (my mentioning this ^^^ is not for the benefit of my saying something smarter (is it?), nor for you guys who know what you are doing (obviously).. but just for you Roger, in case it helps you (who seem to be even more newbie than me). and also in case Reindl wants to teach us/comment some more (please do!) :-) (coming from a developer who only learns the minimum (server admin skills) that he has to; I like to focus on *development*. I mean I would like to be expert in everything.. only minus extra reading ;-) -Govinda -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql?unsub=arch...@jab.org
Re: New-be: problem installing on Mac SO10.6
Roger, 2 mins. of Google turned up these (just f.y.i.): http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/mysql-change-root-password/ http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/recover-mysql-root-password.html -G -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql?unsub=arch...@jab.org
Re: DBA Mentor?
Folks, I have no skin in this game whatsoever same with me ^^^ . ...but I was just never sure what the OP meant by mentor. [...] take me under his or her wing [...] ...seemed to imply wanting to hire someone to soften/expedite the $free self-study process. When I really look into people's motivation, I never find real mal intentions.. I just have to look deep enough; Everyone seemed innocent here (not deserving of any flippant remarks). Communication is the trick, eh? Are we surprised? ;-) - Govinda -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql?unsub=arch...@jab.org
what outputs/illustrates a table's structure? - WAS: Re: Hard? query to with group order by group head's name
My table group_member looks like this: +---+---+-+ | member_id | name | head_id | +---+---+-+ | 1 | Elim |NULL | | 2 | Ann | 1 | | 3 | David |NULL | | 4 | John | 3 | | 5 | Jane | 3 | +---+---+-+ I see such nice formated text output serving to illustrate people's tables and I think it must be due to some code which is spitting that out, rather than people typing so painstakingly. What is that function/MySQL/code? -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql?unsub=arch...@jab.org
Re: what outputs/illustrates a table's structure? - WAS: Re: Hard? query to with group order by group head's name
I see such nice formated text output serving to illustrate people's tables and I think it must be due to some code which is spitting that out, rather than people typing so painstakingly. What is that function/MySQL/code? It's the default output format of the mysql command line client, nothing special. Marcus -- Meaning that on a shared hosting situation, without ssh, then I cannot do that, right? -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql?unsub=arch...@jab.org
