RE: [SPAM] - discuss: user management - Bayesian Filter detected spam
Danny, Although my experience with MySQL user management is limited to just maintaining a handful of users, I find it rather overly-complex because of the need to maintain a table of users and 'from where' they can have access, and to what databases they can have access to. For example, I just installed MySQL Administrator on my laptop and then I had to add rows allowing me to access MySQL from my laptop. The ODBC connection setup should suffice. For every instance of MySQL, you have to have an entry in the user table for every user from every access point. Then multiply that by the number of databases in each instance and you can see that administration of the users can get out of hand. If I had to choose between the 3 methods listed below, I would choose #2 if there was a large number of roles and users. I would definitely stay away from option #3 no matter what. HTH. Kevin Struckhoff Customer Analytics Mgr. NewRoads West Office 818.253.3819 Fax 818.834.8843 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Danny Stolle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 10:08 AM To: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: [SPAM] - discuss: user management - Bayesian Filter detected spam hi, i would like to discuss 'user management' in mysql. Working with Oracle you can assign users to roles giving them privileges provided by that role. MySql doesn't have Roles. I have read (Managing and Using MySql, O'Reilly) 3 options on managing users having multiple roles in a MySql environment: 1. Giving the user a Single user ID and assign the privileges to that user ID 2. Create role-bases users and have different people share the same user ID for a given role. 3. Create multiple user IDs for each role played by each user (dannys_arch as an architect, dannys_dev as a developer). Which of these 3 options is the most preferable one or are there more options which you can use. What are the advantages and disadvantages on working with one of these 3 options? how do you handle hostnames when working with random ip-addresses on your site. Or just plain simple (or stupid) what are your experiences on user management in a MySql environment. Best regards, Danny Stolle Netherlands -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: discuss: user management
Danny, I would stay away from option 3 for exactly the example you provided. You have 1 user with 2 roles. What if you had 30 users with 2 roles? I would choose option 2 because I would only have to maintain 2 users in MySQL, not 60 as you would in option 3. For option 1, you would have 30 users, but then you would to give them the 'most permissible' privileges of the 2 roles. What I don't know is why you need to have roles in the first place. Do you have a large number of users and a large number of roles? Kevin Struckhoff Customer Analytics Mgr. NewRoads West Office 818.253.3819 Fax 818.834.8843 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Danny Stolle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: Re: discuss: user management Hi Kevin, yes it is a complex matter, i agree completely. but how would you plan this as a dba or the person involved on administrating MySql. For instance: You would choose option 2 as the preferable one. But what would you do if somebody would change its role or that the person would get other privileges? he will get a new or already created role userID, but would still be able to logon using the previous user id. why wouldn't you choose for the 3th option or 1st option? what disadvantages do you think would option 1 and 3 have? Best regards, Danny Stolle EmoeSoft, Netherlands Kevin Struckhoff wrote: Danny, Although my experience with MySQL user management is limited to just maintaining a handful of users, I find it rather overly-complex because of the need to maintain a table of users and 'from where' they can have access, and to what databases they can have access to. For example, I just installed MySQL Administrator on my laptop and then I had to add rows allowing me to access MySQL from my laptop. The ODBC connection setup should suffice. For every instance of MySQL, you have to have an entry in the user table for every user from every access point. Then multiply that by the number of databases in each instance and you can see that administration of the users can get out of hand. If I had to choose between the 3 methods listed below, I would choose #2 if there was a large number of roles and users. I would definitely stay away from option #3 no matter what. HTH. Kevin Struckhoff Customer Analytics Mgr. NewRoads West Office 818.253.3819 Fax 818.834.8843 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Danny Stolle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 10:08 AM To: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: [SPAM] - discuss: user management - Bayesian Filter detected spam hi, i would like to discuss 'user management' in mysql. Working with Oracle you can assign users to roles giving them privileges provided by that role. MySql doesn't have Roles. I have read (Managing and Using MySql, O'Reilly) 3 options on managing users having multiple roles in a MySql environment: 1. Giving the user a Single user ID and assign the privileges to that user ID 2. Create role-bases users and have different people share the same user ID for a given role. 3. Create multiple user IDs for each role played by each user (dannys_arch as an architect, dannys_dev as a developer). Which of these 3 options is the most preferable one or are there more options which you can use. What are the advantages and disadvantages on working with one of these 3 options? how do you handle hostnames when working with random ip-addresses on your site. Or just plain simple (or stupid) what are your experiences on user management in a MySql environment. Best regards, Danny Stolle Netherlands -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [SPAM] - Unable to install mysql - Bayesian Filter detected spam
Yannick, MySQL is very picky in how it handles security, or at least different. It has an extra layer of complexity, compared to say, the Informix RDBMS, which uses the OS user/password and grant statements. With that being said, have you run the post-install steps to add users to the mysql database grant tables user db? Refer to section 2.9 of the MySQL Reference Manual, especially section 2.9.3. Good Luck. Kevin Struckhoff Customer Analytics Mgr. NewRoads West Office 818.253.3819 Fax 818.834.8843 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Yannick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:42 AM To: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: [SPAM] - Unable to install mysql - Bayesian Filter detected spam Hey guys, I am not able to install properly mysql. Please see below the technical details or the bug report. The installation goes well until I try to add the root user : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/bin mysqladmin -u root -h fujitsu password x mysqladmin: connect to server at 'fujitsu' failed error: 'Host 'fujitsu.local' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server' [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/bin mysqladmin -u root -h 192.168.234.2 password xx mysqladmin: connect to server at '192.168.234.2' failed error: 'Host '192.168.234.2' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server' [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/bin Continuously, and I've tried lots of combinations, he is failing to connect to the server. Please give me so hints for me to be able to install it. Best regards Yannick [EMAIL PROTECTED] SEND-PR: -*- send-pr -*- SEND-PR: Lines starting with `SEND-PR' will be removed automatically, as SEND-PR: will all comments (text enclosed in `' and `'). SEND-PR: From: yannick To: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: [50 character or so descriptive subject here (for reference)] Description: precise description of the problem (multiple lines) How-To-Repeat: code/input/activities to reproduce the problem (multiple lines) Fix: how to correct or work around the problem, if known (multiple lines) Submitter-Id: submitter ID Originator:Yannick Vauloup Organization: organization of PR author (multiple lines) MySQL support: [none | licence | email support | extended email support ] Synopsis: synopsis of the problem (one line) Severity: [ non-critical | serious | critical ] (one line) Priority: [ low | medium | high ] (one line) Category: mysql Class: [ sw-bug | doc-bug | change-request | support ] (one line) Release: mysql-4.0.15 (Source distribution) Server: /usr/bin/mysqladmin Ver 8.40 Distrib 4.0.15, for suse-linux on i686 Copyright (C) 2000 MySQL AB MySQL Finland AB TCX DataKonsult AB This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you are welcome to modify and redistribute it under the GPL license Server version 4.0.15-Max Protocol version10 Connection Localhost via UNIX socket UNIX socket /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock Uptime: 5 min 8 sec Threads: 1 Questions: 14 Slow queries: 0 Opens: 6 Flush tables: 1 Open tables: 0 Queries per second avg: 0.045 C compiler:gcc (GCC) 3.3.1 (SuSE Linux) C++ compiler: g++ (GCC) 3.3.1 (SuSE Linux) Environment: machine, os, target, libraries (multiple lines) System: Linux fujitsu 2.4.21-286-default #1 Sat Apr 2 08:57:10 UTC 2005 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux Architecture: i686 Some paths: /usr/bin/perl /usr/bin/make /usr/bin/gmake /usr/bin/gcc /usr/bin/cc GCC: Lecture des spécification à partir de /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-suse-linux/3.3.1/specs Configuré avec: ../configure --enable-threads=posix --prefix=/usr --with-local-prefix=/usr/l ocal --infodir=/usr/share/info --mandir=/usr/share/man --libdir=/usr/lib --e nable-languages=c,c++,f77,objc,java,ada --disable-checking --enable-libgcj - -with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/include/g++ --with-slibdir=/lib --with-system-zli b --enable-shared --enable-__cxa_atexit i586-suse-linux Modèle de thread: posix version gcc 3.3.1 (SuSE Linux) Compilation info: CC='gcc' CFLAGS='-O2 -march=i586 -mcpu=i686 -fmessage-length=0 -DPIC -fPIC' CXX='g++' FLAGS='-O2 -march=i586 -mcpu=i686 -fmessage-length=0 -felide-constructor s -fno-exceptions -fno-rtti -fPIC -DPIC' LDFLAGS='' ASFLAGS='' LIBC: -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 1469811 2003-09-24 01:05 /lib/libc.so.6 -rw-r--r--1 root root 13553180 2003-09-23 18:04 /usr/lib/libc.a -rw-r--r--1 root root 204 2003-09-23 18:04 /usr/lib/libc.so lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 20 2005-02-22 14:05 /usr/lib/libc-client.so - libc-client.so.2002d -rwxr-xr-x1 root root 770436 2003-09-23 20:29 /usr/lib/libc-client.so.2002d Configure command: ./configure '--disable-shared' '--enable-thread-safe-client' '--with-mysqld-ldflags=-static' '--with-client-ldflags=-static' '--without-berkeley-db' '--with-extra-tools' '--without-innodb' '--enable
mysql-administrator startup error
I just installed the administrator alpha binaries on my Sun Java Desktop system (SuSe 8 Linux), and I get the following error at startu: ./mysql-administrator-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libsigc-1.2.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I did a find from root and did not locate any file closely resembling the name 'libsigc*'. Does this mean I should download and build the source? TIA. = Thanks. Kevin -- Enjoy Life, Drink and Code Java! __ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
script to start mysql command center
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