Re: [linux-lvm] System Suggestions

2002-03-07 Thread Anthony W. Marino


 We have 10 of the 3ware cards, and while the drive is GPLd and in
 the kernel, we have not been satisfied with the stability of the
 system

Is there anything that I can avoid while still using the card (ie; specific 
RAID config)?



 We haven't had a chance yet to qual the latest firmware, etc., but
 we went with dumb IDE expansion cards (we're only using 4 ide drives
 per system) and we're getting better speed (RAID0 or 1+0 depending)
 than we were off the 3ware card.

 We are not using XFS, so no comments there.

 We're also having some problems with Mysql that people keep pointing
 fingers at LVM for, but at this time we're point right back and
 saying No! in a firm voice...

What kind of problems with MySQL, if you don't mind to summarize?
Thank You,
Anthony

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Re: [linux-lvm] System Suggestions

2002-03-06 Thread Petro

On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:52:30AM -0500, Anthony W. Marino wrote:
 Could someone, please, provide me with a link and/or facilitate some 
 suggestons for configuration of the following components for a new DB server 
 hosting MySQL 4.01MAX?  I'm only looking to get a start and don't expect 
 THE answer since all things are relative and I will have to further test 
 the various scenarios.
 SuSE 7.3-2.4.18
 512MB RAM
 4x40GB Maxtor IDE (7200RPM) drives
 3Ware 7800 RAID Controller
 LVM
 XFS

You really don't provide us with enough information here. 

How big is your database, both in total size and in number of
tables. How are those tables utilized, when they get used do you
primarily open one table, manipulate it, then close it, or do you go
across a bunch of tables? 

All of these, and more will have a dramatic impact on how you set
this stuff up. 



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Re: [linux-lvm] System Suggestions

2002-03-06 Thread Anthony W. Marino

On Wednesday 06 March 2002 02:40 pm, Petro wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:52:30AM -0500, Anthony W. Marino wrote:
  Could someone, please, provide me with a link and/or facilitate some
  suggestons for configuration of the following components for a new DB
  server hosting MySQL 4.01MAX?  I'm only looking to get a start and don't
  expect THE answer since all things are relative and I will have to
  further test the various scenarios.
  SuSE 7.3-2.4.18
  512MB RAM
  4x40GB Maxtor IDE (7200RPM) drives
  3Ware 7800 RAID Controller
  LVM
  XFS

 You really don't provide us with enough information here.

 How big is your database, both in total size and in number of
 tables. How are those tables utilized, when they get used do you
 primarily open one table, manipulate it, then close it, or do you go
 across a bunch of tables?

 All of these, and more will have a dramatic impact on how you set
 this stuff up.

Thanks.  I'm more concerned about any specifics as it applies to MySQL Max 
and XFS, RAID and LVM as a whole.  Are there any nuances as it applies to the 
whole?

Anthony

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re[2]: [linux-lvm] System Suggestions

2002-03-06 Thread Greg Freemyer

Anthony,

I'd be careful with the IDE Raid controller.

We just built a lab machine with a Promise IDE Raid controller and the assumption that 
we could get it and XFS to co-exist.

I'm not doing the work, but the engineer that is tells me that the Promise Patch Kit 
only works with a very limited number of stock Redhat Kernels, and that we are NOT 
free to add the XFS patch.  Even worse, promise does not supply their patch in source, 
so we are not free to tweak it ourselves.

I'm not sure I really believe that, but that is what I'm told.

If you do get the 3Ware IDE RAID controller to work with XFS, please let me know.

Greg Freemyer
Internet Engineer
Deployment and Integration Specialist
The Norcross Group
www.NorcrossGroup.com

   On Wednesday 06 March 2002 02:40 pm, Petro wrote:
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:52:30AM -0500, Anthony W. Marino wrote:
 Could someone, please, provide me with a link and/or facilitate some
 suggestons for configuration of the following components for a new DB
 server hosting MySQL 4.01MAX?  I'm only looking to get a start and
   don't
 expect THE answer since all things are relative and I will have to
 further test the various scenarios.
 SuSE 7.3-2.4.18
 512MB RAM
 4x40GB Maxtor IDE (7200RPM) drives
 3Ware 7800 RAID Controller
 LVM
 XFS
   
You really don't provide us with enough information here.
   
How big is your database, both in total size and in number of
tables. How are those tables utilized, when they get used do you
primarily open one table, manipulate it, then close it, or do you go
across a bunch of tables?
   
All of these, and more will have a dramatic impact on how you set
this stuff up.

   Thanks.  I'm more concerned about any specifics as it applies to MySQL Max
   
   and XFS, RAID and LVM as a whole.  Are there any nuances as it applies to
   the 
   whole?

   Anthony



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Re: [linux-lvm] System Suggestions

2002-03-06 Thread Petro

On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 04:11:30PM -0500, Theo Van Dinter wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 03:59:50PM -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:
  If you do get the 3Ware IDE RAID controller to work with XFS, please let me know.
 Works beautifully.  Have RH7.2, XFS, LVM, and a 3Ware 7410 running the
 box that I'm sending this from. :)
 The Promise RAID cards are cute but crappy from what I've heard.
 The 3ware cards seem to be excellent quality so far, and the driver (as
 far as I can tell) was GPLed and is standard in the 2.4 kernel series
 (well, it's in 2.4.9 anyway...)

We have 10 of the 3ware cards, and while the drive is GPLd and in
the kernel, we have not been satisfied with the stability of the
system 

We haven't had a chance yet to qual the latest firmware, etc., but
we went with dumb IDE expansion cards (we're only using 4 ide drives
per system) and we're getting better speed (RAID0 or 1+0 depending)
than we were off the 3ware card. 

We are not using XFS, so no comments there. 

We're also having some problems with Mysql that people keep pointing
fingers at LVM for, but at this time we're point right back and
saying No! in a firm voice...


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Re: [linux-lvm] System Suggestions

2002-03-06 Thread Maurice Aubrey

On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 07:40:09PM -0800, Petro wrote:
[snip]
 We have 10 of the 3ware cards, and while the drive is GPLd and in
 the kernel, we have not been satisfied with the stability of the
 system 

What were the stability problems?

 We haven't had a chance yet to qual the latest firmware, etc., but
 we went with dumb IDE expansion cards (we're only using 4 ide drives
 per system) and we're getting better speed (RAID0 or 1+0 depending)
 than we were off the 3ware card. 

So you're doing software RAID now?

Some more specifics would be appreciated.  What 3ware cards?  7410s?
What type of drives?  What motherboard?  Were you doing RAID 1+0?

Do you run your application-specific benchmarks, or general benchmarks?
Have any actual numbers?

Thanks,

Maurice
sql, query

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