RE: 4.0.15 skip-external-locking

2003-10-15 Thread Dathan Vance Pattishall



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-->From: Jeremy Zawodny [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-->To: Dathan Vance Pattishall
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-->On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 10:49:16AM -0700, Dathan Vance Pattishall
wrote:
-->> I wrote a quick PERL script to give me the status of a table of a
-->> particular database or queries in general on a db server.
-->>
-->> 71 | 2958  |   System lock   |  e115   | messages
|
-->> REPLACE INTO antispam (code) values
('521.25624894_50628.1066152283')
-->>
-->> For 71 seconds show full processlist is reporting that the database
-->> messages  and table antispam has a system lock for 71 seconds YET
-->> skip-external-locking is on in my my.cnf file and  the command
"show
-->> variables" shows that skip external locking is on.
-->>
-->> | skip_external_locking   | ON
-->
-->What makes you think those are related?

System Lock is caused by an external lock as in the description of show
process list, yet skip external locks is set.

http://www.mysql.com/doc/en/SHOW_PROCESSLIST.html
System lock The thread is waiting for getting to get a external system
lock for the table. If you are not using multiple mysqld servers that
are accessing the same tables, you can disable system locks with the
--skip-external-locking option.


-->
-->External locking is that which allows seprate MySQL servers to share
a
-->data directory.
-->
-->> What is going on?
-->
-->Lock contention, I'd guess.  But having only seen one particular
-->thread, it's hard to know.
-->
-->What do the Table_locks_* values in SHOW STATUS look like?

I graph these with RRD, and find that table_locks_wait is huge compared
to data from a previous day, yet the query nor data has changed much for
this server.

-->
-->> I also notice some long waiting for tables even though the table
with
-->> this status is not being flushed, altered etc.
-->
-->Is the CPU busy?  Or the disks?

Neither. This is what is troubling. I actually removed the largest query
off of this server which btw hits a different table. After this action
was performed the system was fine. I wonder if there is some sort of
thread starvation/deadlock problem in mySQL exposed during lock
contention.


- Dathan Vance Pattishall
  - Sr. Programmer and mySQL DBA for FriendFinder Inc.
  - http://friendfinder.com/go/p40688




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Re: 4.0.15 skip-external-locking

2003-10-15 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 10:49:16AM -0700, Dathan Vance Pattishall wrote:
> I wrote a quick PERL script to give me the status of a table of a
> particular database or queries in general on a db server.
>  
> 71 | 2958  |   System lock   |  e115   | messages   |
> REPLACE INTO antispam (code) values ('521.25624894_50628.1066152283')
>  
> For 71 seconds show full processlist is reporting that the database
> messages  and table antispam has a system lock for 71 seconds YET
> skip-external-locking is on in my my.cnf file and  the command "show
> variables" shows that skip external locking is on.
>  
> | skip_external_locking   | ON

What makes you think those are related?

External locking is that which allows seprate MySQL servers to share a
data directory.

> What is going on?

Lock contention, I'd guess.  But having only seen one particular
thread, it's hard to know.

> This same behavior has not been observed in 3.23.57.  Unfortunately
> it's not easy to downgrade a mysql server as I have it setup in this
> environment. So, maybe this can be a fix forward with some simple
> setting.

What do the Table_locks_* values in SHOW STATUS look like?

> I also notice some long waiting for tables even though the table with
> this status is not being flushed, altered etc.

Is the CPU busy?  Or the disks?

Jeremy
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4.0.15 skip-external-locking

2003-10-14 Thread Dathan Vance Pattishall
I wrote a quick PERL script to give me the status of a table of a
particular database or queries in general on a db server.
 
71 | 2958  |   System lock   |  e115   | messages   |
REPLACE INTO antispam (code) values ('521.25624894_50628.1066152283')
 
For 71 seconds show full processlist is reporting that the database
messages  and table antispam has a system lock for 71 seconds YET
skip-external-locking is on in my my.cnf file and  the command "show
variables" shows that skip external locking is on.
 
| skip_external_locking   | ON
 
 
What is going on? This same behavior has not been observed in 3.23.57.
Unfortunately it's not easy to downgrade a mysql server as I have it
setup in this environment. So, maybe this can be a fix forward with some
simple setting.
 
I also notice some long waiting for tables even though the table with
this status is not being flushed, altered etc.
 
 
- Dathan Vance Pattishall
  - Sr. Programmer and mySQL DBA for FriendFinder Inc.
  - http://friendfinder.com/go/p40688