Re: GEMINI Table Type
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 03:29:00PM +0200, Henning Schroeder wrote: At 11:03 11.09.01, you wrote: does MYSQL.COM has a table type same as GEMINI ( GEMINI yes. MySQL contains support for BDB and InnoDB tables, that are transaction-safe. I don´t want to provoke any anger here, maybe i´m still too new on the list. But actually, i´m a bit sick of the current state of the gemini dispute. I have the feeling that you can´t even say the g-word loud here From the description on the mysql.org website, gemini tables look pretty good. But that´s maybe because they are not so easy on describing the problems with their tables as mysql.com on their website (with innodb and bdb tables). Also, it looks just like marketing talk so i refuse to form an opinion from that. I beta tested Gemini before things got interesting. The technology *is* good, but it's also rather controversial (as you've noticed). So could somebody more enlightened than me please fix us up on the technological benefits/drawbacks on these table types? Gemini provides crash recovery, record-level locking, and high levels of concurrency (as their documentation probably says). It really does work--or did when I last tried it. Also, I would very much love to hear about these legal problems. mysql.com still says But the products they [NuSphere] have shipped are and continue to be in GPL violation.. Nusphere gives you an Gemini GPL Source download. One of the two must be wrong :-)) Let's just say that it's rather complex. The mail archives for this list already contain a fair amount of information on the topic. And there's a lot of information that you simply won't get until the legal stuff is all over. I was about to type something to the effect please shake hands, stop sueing each other and live happily. but i see that i´m not clued enough about the situation to have a real opinion. I think that everyone involved would like it to be that simple and easy, but it's clearly not. Is somebody? Yes, but most of the folks who know the details really can't discuss them. Jeremy -- Jeremy D. Zawodny, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Yahoo - Yahoo Finance Desk: (408) 349-7878 Fax: (408) 349-5454 Cell: (408) 685-5936 MySQL 3.23.41-max: up 6 days, processed 132,326,734 queries (248/sec. avg) - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: GEMINI Table Type
Hi, does MYSQL.COM has a table type same as GEMINI ( GEMINI does not complies with GPL according to what I read) that support the ACID PROPERTIES ( TRANSACTIONS ) (MyIsam, Inodb ?) ... yes. MySQL contains support for BDB and InnoDB tables, that are transaction-safe. if you are downloading a binary distribution, you should download the MySQL-Max binary, that has BDB/InnoDB compiled in (the default MySQL does not). Rgds, Indrek -- For technical support contracts, goto https://order.mysql.com/ __ ___ ___ __ / |/ /_ __/ __/ __ \/ /Indrek Siitan [EMAIL PROTECTED] / /|_/ / // /\ \/ /_/ / /__ MySQL AB, The Web Guru /_/ /_/\_, /___/\___\_\___/ Tallinn, Estonia ___/ www.mysql.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: GEMINI Table Type
At 11:03 11.09.01, you wrote: does MYSQL.COM has a table type same as GEMINI ( GEMINI yes. MySQL contains support for BDB and InnoDB tables, that are transaction-safe. I don´t want to provoke any anger here, maybe i´m still too new on the list. But actually, i´m a bit sick of the current state of the gemini dispute. I have the feeling that you can´t even say the g-word loud here From the description on the mysql.org website, gemini tables look pretty good. But that´s maybe because they are not so easy on describing the problems with their tables as mysql.com on their website (with innodb and bdb tables). Also, it looks just like marketing talk so i refuse to form an opinion from that. So could somebody more enlightened than me please fix us up on the technological benefits/drawbacks on these table types? Also, I would very much love to hear about these legal problems. mysql.com still says But the products they [NuSphere] have shipped are and continue to be in GPL violation.. Nusphere gives you an Gemini GPL Source download. One of the two must be wrong :-)) I was about to type something to the effect please shake hands, stop sueing each other and live happily. but i see that i´m not clued enough about the situation to have a real opinion. Is somebody? Henning - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
GEMINI Table Type
Hi : First of all I've test for a short period MYSQL, I think is great ,,, recently I was navigating MYSQL.COM and I found and read about the dispute with MYSQL.ORG I enter the site to see what it was ... I notice they promote a type of table name GEMINI ... that support the ACID properties ... What I understand is that MYSQL.COM MYSQL.ORG, but does MYSQL.COM has a table type same as GEMINI ( GEMINI does not complies with GPL according to what I read) that support the ACID PROPERTIES ( TRANSACTIONS ) (MyIsam, Inodb ?) ... Sorry if someone already post this Question, and sounds like a echo to all of you, but I am really interest in using MYSQL to develop a project and I am evaluating it ... Thanks a lot - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: GEMINI Table Type
Hello. On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 09:20:55AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] What I understand is that MYSQL.COM MYSQL.ORG, but does MYSQL.COM has a table type same as GEMINI ( GEMINI does not complies with GPL according to what I read) that support the ACID PROPERTIES ( TRANSACTIONS ) (MyIsam, Inodb ?) ... MyISAM does not (fully), InnoDB and BDB do support ACID properties. Have a look at the documentation in the manual to learn more about these table types. Bye, Benjamin. PS: Why did you try mail this to the announce-list? It certainly doesn't belong there. - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: GEMINI Table Type
At 9:20 AM -0600 9/10/01, ROGGER ALEXIS VASQUEZ MARTINEZ wrote: Hi : First of all I've test for a short period MYSQL, I think is great ,,, recently I was navigating MYSQL.COM and I found and read about the dispute with MYSQL.ORG I enter the site to see what it was ... I notice they promote a type of table name GEMINI ... that support the ACID properties ... What I understand is that MYSQL.COM MYSQL.ORG, but Correct. does MYSQL.COM has a table type same as GEMINI ( GEMINI does not complies with GPL according to what I read) I think you may be referring to material that predates Gemini's release under GPL. that support the ACID PROPERTIES ( TRANSACTIONS ) (MyIsam, Inodb ?) ... The distributions available at mysql.com do not include code for the Gemini table type. The MySQL+Gemini distributions at mysql.org do. The distributions from both sites also support ISAM, MyISAM, BDB, and InnoDB table types. You may have to compile from source with the appropriate configure flags to enable support for the table types you want to evaluate. Sorry if someone already post this Question, and sounds like a echo to all of you, but I am really interest in using MYSQL to develop a project and I am evaluating it ... Thanks a lot -- Paul DuBois, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
