Re: I heard that MySQL 4.01 supports Views?

2002-02-28 Thread BD

At 03:31 PM 2/27/2002 , you wrote:
Does MySQL 4.01 support Views? And if so, how?

Stephen Cox
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Stephen,
 Views were on the list for the 4.1 release so your friend may have 
accidentally transposed the .01 and the .1. However this feature, like air 
travellers, may get bumped, to a later release like 4.1x.  :-)

Brent

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Re: I heard that MySQL 4.01 supports Views?

2002-02-27 Thread Paul DuBois

At 16:31 -0500 2/27/02, Stephen Cox wrote:
Does MySQL 4.01 support Views? And if so, how?

Ask the person who told you that it does to substantiate the assertion.


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Re: I heard that MySQL 4.01 supports Views?

2002-02-27 Thread Paul DuBois

At 17:09 -0500 2/27/02, Anthony W. Marino wrote:
On Wednesday 27 February 2002 04:59 pm, Paul DuBois wrote:
   Does MySQL 4.01 support Views? And if so, how?

   Ask the person who told you that it does to substantiate the assertion.


Can't you just say NO or just don't respond?

Sure.  But why should this question have even been posted?  Isn't it
reasonable that if someone told him that views are supported, he could
have asked that person, how do you know?  Or maybe looked in the manual?


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Re: I heard that MySQL 4.01 supports Views?

2002-02-27 Thread Anthony W. Marino

On Wednesday 27 February 2002 05:16 pm, you wrote:
 At 17:09 -0500 2/27/02, Anthony W. Marino wrote:
 On Wednesday 27 February 2002 04:59 pm, Paul DuBois wrote:
Does MySQL 4.01 support Views? And if so, how?
   
Ask the person who told you that it does to substantiate the
assertion.
 
 Can't you just say NO or just don't respond?

 Sure.  But why should this question have even been posted?  Isn't it
 reasonable that if someone told him that views are supported, he could
 have asked that person, how do you know?  Or maybe looked in the manual?

Paul,

My point is that you are EXTREMELY well versed with MySQL and the current 
status.  I could just imagine at how easy it is to become very annoyed at 
some of the questions that arrive.

We shoudn't stifle interest in this list.  We should offer guidance and 
direction and thus help them help themselves (ie; Please follow the 
yellowbrick road...)

Great '99 book can't wait for more!!!

Thank You,
Anthony


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RE: I heard that MySQL 4.01 supports Views?

2002-02-27 Thread Charles Little


We shoudn't stifle interest in this list.  We should offer guidance and

direction and thus help them help themselves (ie; Please follow the 
yellowbrick road...)

I don't think that was his intent... It's just that this is in the .sig
for the list...

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Just an observation...

Charles


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Re: I heard that MySQL 4.01 supports Views?

2002-02-27 Thread DL Neil

 On Wednesday 27 February 2002 05:16 pm, you wrote:
  At 17:09 -0500 2/27/02, Anthony W. Marino wrote:
  On Wednesday 27 February 2002 04:59 pm, Paul DuBois wrote:
 Does MySQL 4.01 support Views? And if so, how?

 Ask the person who told you that it does to substantiate the
 assertion.
  
  Can't you just say NO or just don't respond?
 
  Sure.  But why should this question have even been posted?  Isn't it
  reasonable that if someone told him that views are supported, he could
  have asked that person, how do you know?  Or maybe looked in the manual?

 Paul,

 My point is that you are EXTREMELY well versed with MySQL and the current
 status.  I could just imagine at how easy it is to become very annoyed at
 some of the questions that arrive.

 We shoudn't stifle interest in this list.  We should offer guidance and
 direction and thus help them help themselves (ie; Please follow the
 yellowbrick road...)


I disagree somewhat! I agree that politeness should prevail, also that knowledgeable 
people should endeavor to
be helpful and exercise forbearance towards learners...
(just who is in which category will vary over time and according to topic, so today's 
JOIN-expert might ask
tomorrow's question of the day in privileges/control (for example) - so it pays to be 
'nice')

However if we're (all) going to be polite to each other, then why ask questions that 
waste everyone's time (not
even just those who make the effort to answer the question), when a quick 'flip 
through' the manual and/or the
web site would throw up the answer? [effect: devaluation of, disrespect for others' 
time/efforts/kindness]

If you want an 'expert' to demonstrate his/her knowledge, then how about providing as 
much information as might
be relevant, eg I found this statement ... on ... web site/newsgroup/page of the 
manual...
- or in the case of query problems, how about the 'current best' version that isn't 
quite working, and some
sample data that is formatted so that it can be quickly thrown at a MySQL client/tool 
so that the 'expert' can
test/debug and quality check advice before launching into 'print' on the list? [help 
others to help you]

The exercise of freedom is a two-way street!
=dn
MD of soapboxes unlimited


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