Re: MySQL Storage Engine

2010-03-20 Thread Tompkins Neil
Thanks for all the responses and useful information.

Cheers
Neil

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 6:35 PM, mos mo...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 At 04:18 AM 3/18/2010, Tompkins Neil wrote:

 Hi

 I'm currently looking to develop an on line web application - which is
 going
 to be used by around 200+ concurrent users at any one time.  Can
 you recommend to me the best/preferred MySQL database engine to use for
 example MyISAM ?

 Also, in your experiences, do you recommend that SELECT statements
 containing a number of INNER JOINS should be execute from a Stored
 procedure
 or purely from the webpage ?



 Neil,
  I would recommend using MyISAM if the queries where 90% reads and less
 than 10% writes.  Since you are running a webpage you will of course need to
 use parameterized queries to avoid sql injection attacks.  Innodb is fine if
 the table is small enough that it will fit into memory. If you don't have
 enough ram on your machine then innodb can be quite sluggish. If you need
 transactions, then Innodb is necessary.

 Mike


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MySQL Storage Engine

2010-03-18 Thread Tompkins Neil
Hi

I'm currently looking to develop an on line web application - which is going
to be used by around 200+ concurrent users at any one time.  Can
you recommend to me the best/preferred MySQL database engine to use for
example MyISAM ?

Also, in your experiences, do you recommend that SELECT statements
containing a number of INNER JOINS should be execute from a Stored procedure
or purely from the webpage ?

Cheers
Neil


Re: MySQL Storage Engine

2010-03-18 Thread Krishna Chandra Prajapati
Hi Neil,

Recommend : Innodb storage engine

Even, i would suggest inner join select query (if report query might takes
few seconds) should be executed on slave.

Before doing any thing. Plan out all the requirement.

Regards,
Krishna

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Tompkins Neil neil.tompk...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

 Hi

 I'm currently looking to develop an on line web application - which is
 going
 to be used by around 200+ concurrent users at any one time.  Can
 you recommend to me the best/preferred MySQL database engine to use for
 example MyISAM ?

 Also, in your experiences, do you recommend that SELECT statements
 containing a number of INNER JOINS should be execute from a Stored
 procedure
 or purely from the webpage ?

 Cheers
 Neil



Re: MySQL Storage Engine

2010-03-18 Thread Ian Simpson
Hi Neil,

As Krishna said, Innodb is generally always superior to MyISAM unless
you need full-text search (and even if you do there are alternatives to
MyISAMs full-text search, which I've often found to be lacking in
performance).

A poorly optimised query will be slow whether it is called from a
procedure or executed directly by the page. I'd advise analysing your
joined queries carefully, using the EXPLAIN tool in MySQL, and add
appropriate indexes to your tables.

Also, if you are developing in PHP, you may wish to look at the memcache
module, which can cache function results in memory in PHP. This can
often be helpful for storing results for very frequently called queries.

On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 09:18 +, Tompkins Neil wrote:
 Hi
 
 I'm currently looking to develop an on line web application - which is going
 to be used by around 200+ concurrent users at any one time.  Can
 you recommend to me the best/preferred MySQL database engine to use for
 example MyISAM ?
 
 Also, in your experiences, do you recommend that SELECT statements
 containing a number of INNER JOINS should be execute from a Stored procedure
 or purely from the webpage ?
 
 Cheers
 Neil


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Re: MySQL Storage Engine

2010-03-18 Thread Tompkins Neil
Hi

How do you mean executed on slave ?

Neil

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Krishna Chandra Prajapati 
prajapat...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Neil,

 Recommend : Innodb storage engine

 Even, i would suggest inner join select query (if report query might takes
 few seconds) should be executed on slave.

 Before doing any thing. Plan out all the requirement.

 Regards,
 Krishna


 On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Tompkins Neil 
 neil.tompk...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi

 I'm currently looking to develop an on line web application - which is
 going
 to be used by around 200+ concurrent users at any one time.  Can
 you recommend to me the best/preferred MySQL database engine to use for
 example MyISAM ?

 Also, in your experiences, do you recommend that SELECT statements
 containing a number of INNER JOINS should be execute from a Stored
 procedure
 or purely from the webpage ?

 Cheers
 Neil





Re: MySQL Storage Engine

2010-03-18 Thread Krishna Chandra Prajapati
Hi Neil,

Many times we need to generate reports (weekly, montly, yearly) from the
data we have. For detailed reports we have to use joins on many tables. So,
it takes time from 2 to 5. So these types of activities must be performed on
slave server.

If you need reports then you should have master - slave replication.

http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/replication-howto.html

_Krishna

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Tompkins Neil neil.tompk...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

 Hi

 How do you mean executed on slave ?

 Neil


 On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Krishna Chandra Prajapati 
 prajapat...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Neil,

 Recommend : Innodb storage engine

 Even, i would suggest inner join select query (if report query might takes
 few seconds) should be executed on slave.

 Before doing any thing. Plan out all the requirement.

 Regards,
 Krishna


 On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Tompkins Neil 
 neil.tompk...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi

 I'm currently looking to develop an on line web application - which is
 going
 to be used by around 200+ concurrent users at any one time.  Can
 you recommend to me the best/preferred MySQL database engine to use for
 example MyISAM ?

 Also, in your experiences, do you recommend that SELECT statements
 containing a number of INNER JOINS should be execute from a Stored
 procedure
 or purely from the webpage ?

 Cheers
 Neil






Re: MySQL Storage Engine

2010-03-18 Thread Tompkins Neil
Thanks for the useful information.  Can you let me know any other things I
need to consider ?

Regards
Neil

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Krishna Chandra Prajapati 
prajapat...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Neil,

 Many times we need to generate reports (weekly, montly, yearly) from the
 data we have. For detailed reports we have to use joins on many tables. So,
 it takes time from 2 to 5. So these types of activities must be performed on
 slave server.

 If you need reports then you should have master - slave replication.

 http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/replication-howto.html

 _Krishna


 On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Tompkins Neil 
 neil.tompk...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi

 How do you mean executed on slave ?

 Neil


 On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Krishna Chandra Prajapati 
 prajapat...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Neil,

 Recommend : Innodb storage engine

 Even, i would suggest inner join select query (if report query might
 takes few seconds) should be executed on slave.

 Before doing any thing. Plan out all the requirement.

 Regards,
 Krishna


 On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Tompkins Neil 
 neil.tompk...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi

 I'm currently looking to develop an on line web application - which is
 going
 to be used by around 200+ concurrent users at any one time.  Can
 you recommend to me the best/preferred MySQL database engine to use for
 example MyISAM ?

 Also, in your experiences, do you recommend that SELECT statements
 containing a number of INNER JOINS should be execute from a Stored
 procedure
 or purely from the webpage ?

 Cheers
 Neil







Re: MySQL Storage Engine

2010-03-18 Thread mos

At 04:18 AM 3/18/2010, Tompkins Neil wrote:

Hi

I'm currently looking to develop an on line web application - which is going
to be used by around 200+ concurrent users at any one time.  Can
you recommend to me the best/preferred MySQL database engine to use for
example MyISAM ?

Also, in your experiences, do you recommend that SELECT statements
containing a number of INNER JOINS should be execute from a Stored procedure
or purely from the webpage ?



Neil,
  I would recommend using MyISAM if the queries where 90% reads and 
less than 10% writes.  Since you are running a webpage you will of course 
need to use parameterized queries to avoid sql injection attacks.  Innodb 
is fine if the table is small enough that it will fit into memory. If you 
don't have enough ram on your machine then innodb can be quite sluggish. If 
you need transactions, then Innodb is necessary.


Mike  



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