RE: An Idea (really: MySQL and Perl for the Web)

2002-12-29 Thread JamesD
we are all in sales, 24/7. :-)

Jim

-Original Message-
From: Paul DuBois [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 9:24 PM
To: JamesD; Peter Lovatt; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: An Idea (really: MySQL and Perl for the Web)


At 17:35 -0800 12/29/02, JamesD wrote:
while Paul probably wouldnt say it, I would:

Well, I *have* been known to make shameless plugs from time to time, but
of course it's better if readers make them for me. :-)  So, thanks, I
appreciate it.


his book: MySql and Perl for the Web ISBN 0-7357-1054-6 New Riders
Publishing
answers the questions you are getting at below, and
IMHO the book is excellent as a how do i get started... and more...

$44.99 SRP  - a low cost compared to the 'deep breath below :-)

I of course appreciate it when people purchase a copy of the book,
but for those who prefer to take a look at part of it first,
I will point out that there is a sample chapter available online
at:

http://www.kitebird.com/mysql-perl/

It's a 78-page PDF, and it deals with a number of questions that probably
would come up in a FAQ, but in more detail.  For example, it answers the
oft-posed questions: how do I store images in MySQL? and how do I retrieve
images from MySQL for display in a Web page?  The sample code that
implements
the answers to these questions is also available at the URL above, as are
some sample applications. (One of which is an e-card thing that demonstrates
image retrieval and display.)

I guess that's enough shameless plugging for now. :-)


like any book, to drive through it all the way, inch
by inch, and learn, takes some time and focus.

James Danforth,COO
Neovi Data Corp
www.qchex.com


-Original Message-
From: Peter Lovatt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 4:18 PM
To: Stefan Hinz, iConnect (Berlin); Cal Evans; Paul DuBois; Adam
Wi´ckowski; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: An Idea


Hi

My first thought was that the docs on mysql.com should do the job, but,
although they answer most technical questions, often more down to earth
stuff like 'How do I store images' or 'how do I get started with SQL' isn't
there, or it is difficult to find.

The other problem is that the documentation is often technical to point
that
it is difficult to understand, even as a reasonably competent database
programmer. I think newbies (and not so newbies) could feel totally
overwhelmed by much of it.

So (taking a deep breath !) I would be prepared to lay the foundations for
a
faq / knowledge base aimed specifically at this type of questions and to
manage it.

So, any thoughts? Where do we go from here?

Peter

---
Excellence in internet and open source software
---
Sunmaia
Birmingham
UK
www.sunmaia.net
tel. 0121-242-1473
International +44-121-242-1473
---



-
Before posting, please check:
   http://www.mysql.com/manual.php   (the manual)
   http://lists.mysql.com/   (the list archive)

To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php




RE: An Idea (really: MySQL and Perl for the Web)

2002-12-29 Thread Paul DuBois
At 17:35 -0800 12/29/02, JamesD wrote:

while Paul probably wouldnt say it, I would:


Well, I *have* been known to make shameless plugs from time to time, but
of course it's better if readers make them for me. :-)  So, thanks, I
appreciate it.



his book: MySql and Perl for the Web ISBN 0-7357-1054-6 New Riders
Publishing
answers the questions you are getting at below, and
IMHO the book is excellent as a how do i get started... and more...

$44.99 SRP  - a low cost compared to the 'deep breath below :-)


I of course appreciate it when people purchase a copy of the book,
but for those who prefer to take a look at part of it first,
I will point out that there is a sample chapter available online
at:

http://www.kitebird.com/mysql-perl/

It's a 78-page PDF, and it deals with a number of questions that probably
would come up in a FAQ, but in more detail.  For example, it answers the
oft-posed questions: how do I store images in MySQL? and how do I retrieve
images from MySQL for display in a Web page?  The sample code that implements
the answers to these questions is also available at the URL above, as are
some sample applications. (One of which is an e-card thing that demonstrates
image retrieval and display.)

I guess that's enough shameless plugging for now. :-)



like any book, to drive through it all the way, inch
by inch, and learn, takes some time and focus.

James Danforth,COO
Neovi Data Corp
www.qchex.com


-Original Message-
From: Peter Lovatt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 4:18 PM
To: Stefan Hinz, iConnect (Berlin); Cal Evans; Paul DuBois; Adam
Wi´ckowski; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: An Idea


Hi

My first thought was that the docs on mysql.com should do the job, but,
although they answer most technical questions, often more down to earth
stuff like 'How do I store images' or 'how do I get started with SQL' isn't
there, or it is difficult to find.

The other problem is that the documentation is often technical to point that
it is difficult to understand, even as a reasonably competent database
programmer. I think newbies (and not so newbies) could feel totally
overwhelmed by much of it.

So (taking a deep breath !) I would be prepared to lay the foundations for a
faq / knowledge base aimed specifically at this type of questions and to
manage it.

So, any thoughts? Where do we go from here?

Peter

---
Excellence in internet and open source software
---
Sunmaia
Birmingham
UK
www.sunmaia.net
tel. 0121-242-1473
International +44-121-242-1473
---




-
Before posting, please check:
  http://www.mysql.com/manual.php   (the manual)
  http://lists.mysql.com/   (the list archive)

To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php




MySQL and Perl for the Web now available in Dutch

2002-04-19 Thread Paul DuBois

I'm pleased to announce that MySQL and Perl for the Web (New Riders,
by me) is now available in a Dutch translation (MySQL en Perl voor
het web).  Not that I can read a word of it ... :-)

Information is available on the translations page at the book's
Web site: http://www.kitebird.com/mysql-perl/

-
Before posting, please check:
   http://www.mysql.com/manual.php   (the manual)
   http://lists.mysql.com/   (the list archive)

To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php




MySQL and Perl for the Web

2001-09-07 Thread Paul DuBois

I've been mildly scolded for not announcing this somewhere,
so, on the better late than never principle, here goes. :-)

New Riders has published a new book called MySQL and Perl for the Web
(by me).  It focuses on using MySQL together with the Perl DBI and CGI.pm
modules to perform various kinds of Web-related tasks.  It's also got
some stuff on using mod_perl.  The book's home page is at:

 http://www.kitebird.com/mysql-perl/

where you can also find a pointer to the New Riders listing. That
listing provides access to a PDF version of one of the chapters,
which you can read to get some idea of what the rest of the book is
like.

I'll point out that there's a review of the book on Amazon.  It's
negative.  From my point of view, the review is unsatisfactory, not
because it's negative, but because it doesn't really say what the reader
found wrong with it in any specific manner. That doesn't help me know
how it could have been improved. (Feedback that I've received privately
has been much more positive.)

I should also point out that some of the online booksellers have a
table of contents posted that is inaccurate.  Specifically, such TOCs
list a chapter on XML, but there is no such chapter. (Had one planned,
but ran out of time and energy.)

-- 
Paul DuBois, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-
Before posting, please check:
   http://www.mysql.com/manual.php   (the manual)
   http://lists.mysql.com/   (the list archive)

To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php