Re: Auto_increment or manual??

2001-05-03 Thread lists


Personnaly, i have found autoincrement fields to be rock solid.
I use'em all over the place on a 1 Gb database, web based.
Don't do it manually .  You'll end up doing the same thing 
that mysql gives you for free.   
 
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On 5/3/2001 15:57:38, you said:
Hello!
I have a database with about 10 tables in it. In every table I have a
RECORD_ID
field so that I can at least uniquely identify a row if I need to, also its
used in relationships. The question is should I use the AUTO_INCREMENT for
this, or should I manually generate this value, getting the next highest
number, then putting it in there. Is there any known replication problems if
I use AUTO_INCREMENT??? Would I be safer in just doing this manually myself
in my code?? This is going to be a web-based app, so many users will be
using the db at the same time.
Thanks!

Patrick

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RE: Auto_increment or manual??

2001-05-03 Thread Patrick Calkins

This sounds encouraging, but are there any known problems with the MySQL
replication model currently available?? Would the slave servers have the
same auto_inc column attributes? Could this conflict somehow with the master
server??

Thanks for the quick reply!
Patrick

# Personnaly, i have found autoincrement fields to be rock solid.
# I use'em all over the place on a 1 Gb database, web based.
# Don't do it manually .  You'll end up doing the same thing 
# that mysql gives you for free.   
#  
# Christopher Lambrou,
# CGL Computer Services, Inc.
# Empire State Building, 
# PMB 16J Suite 3304 
# New York, NY 10118
# Tel: (212) 971-9723
# Fax: (212) 564-1135
# URL: http://www.cglcomputer.com
# Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# 
# On 5/3/2001 15:57:38, you said:
# Hello!
# I have a database with about 10 tables in it. In every table I have a
# RECORD_ID
# field so that I can at least uniquely identify a row if I 
# need to, also its
# used in relationships. The question is should I use the 
# AUTO_INCREMENT for
# this, or should I manually generate this value, getting the 
# next highest
# number, then putting it in there. Is there any known 
# replication problems if
# I use AUTO_INCREMENT??? Would I be safer in just doing this 
# manually myself
# in my code?? This is going to be a web-based app, so many 
# users will be
# using the db at the same time.
# Thanks!
# 
# Patrick
# 
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Re: RE: Auto_increment or manual??

2001-05-03 Thread Chris Lambrou [CGL]


For replication, yes, there will be a problem, but 
this has anything to do with mysql. You'd have the same 
problem with a Sybase identity field replicated to another 
database server. 

A possible solution is this:
1. have a separate table for generating counter fields.

2. make the replicated table's primary key char

3. Identify each replicated server with a character. 
For example, we have a server in NY that's identified 
with an 'N' and one in Miami, that's an 'M'.

4. When inserting a record get the next counter 
value from the counter table, concatenate it with 
the server identifier and voila, a key that's unique 
across replicated servers. NY server ids will look like
N1000, N1001, N1002 and Miami M1000, M1001, M1002 and so on.

The downside: you have a char field to index and that 
ain't as fast as an index on a numeric field.

Christopher Lambrou,
CGL Computer Services, Inc.
Empire State Building, 
PMB 16J Suite 3304 
New York, NY 10118
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On 5/3/2001 18:03:17, you said:
This sounds encouraging, but are there any known problems with the MySQL
replication model currently available?? Would the slave servers have the
same auto_inc column attributes? Could this conflict somehow with the master
server??

Thanks for the quick reply!
Patrick

# Personnaly, i have found autoincrement fields to be rock solid.
# I use'em all over the place on a 1 Gb database, web based.
# Don't do it manually .  You'll end up doing the same thing 
# that mysql gives you for free.   
#  
# Christopher Lambrou,
# CGL Computer Services, Inc.
# Empire State Building, 
# PMB 16J Suite 3304 
# New York, NY 10118
# Tel: (212) 971-9723
# Fax: (212) 564-1135
# URL: http://www.cglcomputer.com
# Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# 
# On 5/3/2001 15:57:38, you said:
# Hello!
# I have a database with about 10 tables in it. In every table I have a
# RECORD_ID
# field so that I can at least uniquely identify a row if I 
# need to, also its
# used in relationships. The question is should I use the 
# AUTO_INCREMENT for
# this, or should I manually generate this value, getting the 
# next highest
# number, then putting it in there. Is there any known 
# replication problems if
# I use AUTO_INCREMENT??? Would I be safer in just doing this 
# manually myself
# in my code?? This is going to be a web-based app, so many 
# users will be
# using the db at the same time.
# Thanks!
# 
# Patrick
# 
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RE: Auto_increment or manual??

2001-05-03 Thread Chris Bolt

http://www.mysql.com/doc/R/e/Replication_Features.html

Replication will be done correctly with AUTO_INCREMENT, LAST_INSERT_ID, and
TIMESTAMP values.

 This sounds encouraging, but are there any known problems with the MySQL
 replication model currently available?? Would the slave servers have the
 same auto_inc column attributes? Could this conflict somehow with
 the master
 server??


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RE: Auto_increment or manual??

2001-05-03 Thread Patrick Calkins

Thank you Chris with this info! This will greatly help me out, so as I see
it now, there is absolutely no advantage to generating your own unique
numbers manually - just let MySQL do it for you am I correct in this
assumption?

Again, thanks!
Patrick

# http://www.mysql.com/doc/R/e/Replication_Features.html
# 
# Replication will be done correctly with AUTO_INCREMENT, 
# LAST_INSERT_ID, and
# TIMESTAMP values.
# 
#  This sounds encouraging, but are there any known problems 
# with the MySQL
#  replication model currently available?? Would the slave 
# servers have the
#  same auto_inc column attributes? Could this conflict somehow with
#  the master
#  server??
# 
# 
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RE: Auto_increment or manual??

2001-05-03 Thread Chris Bolt

Yes, I know from experience, it's the best way to do it.

And if you need to get the number generated by an auto_increment column in
an insert, you can use last_insert_id() (or mysql_insert_id() with php).

 Thank you Chris with this info! This will greatly help me out, so as I see
 it now, there is absolutely no advantage to generating your own unique
 numbers manually - just let MySQL do it for you am I correct in this
 assumption?


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