RE: Central UDF project at mysql.com?

2005-03-30 Thread Tom Crimmins

I also think this would be a good idea. I have written some UDF's 
for specific internal use and often wondered if they would be useful 
to others. It would be nice if there was a centralized place to search 
for UDFs, so you don't have to re-invent the wheel everytime you need 
a function. I think that the community list may be the appropriate list 
for disscussion on how to get this going. I believe it is run by Arjen 
Lentz. I have CC'd him on this message. Maybe he can give some input.

Regards,

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Interface Specialist
Pottawattamie County, Iowa 

On Wednesday, March 30, 2005 09:12, Dan Bolser wrote:

> On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Mark Papadakis wrote:
> 
>> That is a really good idea - though I am not sure there is much of
>> those out there to justify the cause, nor many developers actually
>> using UDFs.
> 
> Cheers :)
> 
> I think with the right infra more people would start using and
> developing UDF's, especially if the work was a part of 'MySQL' proper
> and not just different groups of individuals. I know it wouldn't make
> any *real* difference, but it would make a psychological difference.
> Also a central project would be a way to boost visibility for
> different UDF projects, for example good (ongoing) work could be
> showcased in the MySQL news letter. 
> 
> 
>> Still, having them all in one place could be nothing but a good
>> thing. 
> 
> Yeah, I totally agree :) Especially if resources like the MySQL
> bugtracker and mailing lists could be shared.
> 
> Is this the right forum for requesting such things?
> 
> All the best,
> Dan.
> 
> 
>> 
>> MarkP
>> 
>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:39:11 +0100 (BST), Dan Bolser
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I searched for previous discussion on this topic, but didn't find
>>> any. 
>>> 
>>> I would like to see a centralized MySQL hosted UDF archive and
>>> development project. The only existing 'archives' seem to be
>>> somewhat poorly 
>>> maintained (sorry), and suffer for their duplicated efforts and
>>> being loosely distributed throughout the web.
>>> 
>>> The best I can find are here (ranked according to Google)...
>>> 
>>> http://empyrean.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/~nem/mysql/udf/
>>> http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/2292
>>> http://www.thecodeproject.com/Purgatory/mygroupconcat.asp
>>> http://mysql-udf.sourceforge.net/
>>> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6841
>>> 
>>> I think a centralized project would do wonders for the UDF
>>> community, allowing UDF's to be discussed, suggested and developed
>>> under one roof. A first step should be to create a
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. Without such a central list the
>>> UDF community can't communicate effectively. Who better than MySQL
>>> to organize the MySQL UDF community? 
>>> 
>>> A simple "not officially supported" statement is all that is
>>> needed. Good UDF's could become part of MySQL proper, and a UDF
>>> 'bundle' would be a 
>>> great development. MySQL programmers could help build UDF's, and the
>>> community could vote on 'wanted' functions.
>>> 
>>> You could probably guess where all this is going, and that is
>>> towards my 
>>> own UDF request (where to ask?), but I will leave that for later.
>>> 
>>> Any comments? Any postings that I have missed? Any reason that
>>> their is no udf mailing list? I think that their are tons of UDF's
>>> waiting to happen, given the right conditions. 
>>> 
>>> All the best,
>>> Dan.

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Re: Central UDF project at mysql.com?

2005-03-30 Thread Dan Bolser
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Mark Papadakis wrote:

>That is a really good idea - though I am not sure there is much of
>those out there to justify the cause, nor many developers actually
>using UDFs.

Cheers :)

I think with the right infra more people would start using and developing
UDF's, especially if the work was a part of 'MySQL' proper and not just
different groups of individuals. I know it wouldn't make any *real*
difference, but it would make a psychological difference. Also a central
project would be a way to boost visibility for different UDF projects, for
example good (ongoing) work could be showcased in the MySQL news letter.


>Still, having them all in one place could be nothing but a good thing.

Yeah, I totally agree :) Especially if resources like the MySQL bugtracker
and mailing lists could be shared. 

Is this the right forum for requesting such things?

All the best,
Dan. 


>
>MarkP
>
>On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:39:11 +0100 (BST), Dan Bolser
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I searched for previous discussion on this topic, but didn't find any.
>> 
>> I would like to see a centralized MySQL hosted UDF archive and development
>> project. The only existing 'archives' seem to be somewhat poorly
>> maintained (sorry), and suffer for their duplicated efforts and being
>> loosely distributed throughout the web.
>> 
>> The best I can find are here (ranked according to Google)...
>> 
>> http://empyrean.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/~nem/mysql/udf/
>> http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/2292
>> http://www.thecodeproject.com/Purgatory/mygroupconcat.asp
>> http://mysql-udf.sourceforge.net/
>> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6841
>> 
>> I think a centralized project would do wonders for the UDF community,
>> allowing UDF's to be discussed, suggested and developed under one roof. A
>> first step should be to create a [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. Without
>> such a central list the UDF community can't communicate effectively. Who
>> better than MySQL to organize the MySQL UDF community?
>> 
>> A simple "not officially supported" statement is all that is needed. Good
>> UDF's could become part of MySQL proper, and a UDF 'bundle' would be a
>> great development. MySQL programmers could help build UDF's, and the
>> community could vote on 'wanted' functions.
>> 
>> You could probably guess where all this is going, and that is towards my
>> own UDF request (where to ask?), but I will leave that for later.
>> 
>> Any comments? Any postings that I have missed? Any reason that their is no
>> udf mailing list? I think that their are tons of UDF's waiting to happen,
>> given the right conditions.
>> 
>> All the best,
>> Dan.
>> 
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Re: Central UDF project at mysql.com?

2005-03-30 Thread Mark Papadakis
That is a really good idea - though I am not sure there is much of
those out there to justify the cause, nor many developers actually
using UDFs.

Still, having them all in one place could be nothing but a good thing.

MarkP

On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 14:39:11 +0100 (BST), Dan Bolser
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I searched for previous discussion on this topic, but didn't find any.
> 
> I would like to see a centralized MySQL hosted UDF archive and development
> project. The only existing 'archives' seem to be somewhat poorly
> maintained (sorry), and suffer for their duplicated efforts and being
> loosely distributed throughout the web.
> 
> The best I can find are here (ranked according to Google)...
> 
> http://empyrean.lib.ndsu.nodak.edu/~nem/mysql/udf/
> http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/2292
> http://www.thecodeproject.com/Purgatory/mygroupconcat.asp
> http://mysql-udf.sourceforge.net/
> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6841
> 
> I think a centralized project would do wonders for the UDF community,
> allowing UDF's to be discussed, suggested and developed under one roof. A
> first step should be to create a [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. Without
> such a central list the UDF community can't communicate effectively. Who
> better than MySQL to organize the MySQL UDF community?
> 
> A simple "not officially supported" statement is all that is needed. Good
> UDF's could become part of MySQL proper, and a UDF 'bundle' would be a
> great development. MySQL programmers could help build UDF's, and the
> community could vote on 'wanted' functions.
> 
> You could probably guess where all this is going, and that is towards my
> own UDF request (where to ask?), but I will leave that for later.
> 
> Any comments? Any postings that I have missed? Any reason that their is no
> udf mailing list? I think that their are tons of UDF's waiting to happen,
> given the right conditions.
> 
> All the best,
> Dan.
> 
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