Re: Deployment of Database in a DEB package.
Thanks. On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Micah Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: It's a package for Debian based systems, which include Ubuntu and a few others.. It's like an RPM for Fedora/Redhat linux. -Micah On 10/27/2008 06:39 PM, Moon's Father wrote: I'm sorry that if I can ask a question.What is DEB? On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 9:49 PM, US Data Export[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: -Original Message- From: Ellison, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 2:35 AM To: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: RE: Deployment of Database in a DEB package. That's true, you would need to consider that risk. Can a DEB package ask for information before deployment? If so you could ask for the username/password and run the mysql command using the provided info. Therefore not risking the problem of having a username/password within the files. Although I am making a big assumption on whether you can grab input and use that in scripts of course :) [JS] Bash, ksh, and other shells have a read command that can be used to take input from the console (or other sources). Regards, Jerry Schwartz The Infoshop by Global Information Incorporated 195 Farmington Ave. Farmington, CT 06032 860.674.8796 / FAX: 860.674.8341 www.the-infoshop.comwww.giiexpress.comwww.etudes-marche.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I'm a MySQL DBA in china. More about me just visit here: http://yueliangdao0608.cublog.cn
Re: Deployment of Database in a DEB package.
It's a package for Debian based systems, which include Ubuntu and a few others.. It's like an RPM for Fedora/Redhat linux. -Micah On 10/27/2008 06:39 PM, Moon's Father wrote: I'm sorry that if I can ask a question.What is DEB? On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 9:49 PM, US Data Export [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: -Original Message- From: Ellison, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 2:35 AM To: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: RE: Deployment of Database in a DEB package. That's true, you would need to consider that risk. Can a DEB package ask for information before deployment? If so you could ask for the username/password and run the mysql command using the provided info. Therefore not risking the problem of having a username/password within the files. Although I am making a big assumption on whether you can grab input and use that in scripts of course :) [JS] Bash, ksh, and other shells have a read command that can be used to take input from the console (or other sources). Regards, Jerry Schwartz The Infoshop by Global Information Incorporated 195 Farmington Ave. Farmington, CT 06032 860.674.8796 / FAX: 860.674.8341 www.the-infoshop.com www.giiexpress.com www.etudes-marche.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Deployment of Database in a DEB package.
I'm sorry that if I can ask a question.What is DEB? On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 9:49 PM, US Data Export [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: -Original Message- From: Ellison, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 2:35 AM To: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: RE: Deployment of Database in a DEB package. That's true, you would need to consider that risk. Can a DEB package ask for information before deployment? If so you could ask for the username/password and run the mysql command using the provided info. Therefore not risking the problem of having a username/password within the files. Although I am making a big assumption on whether you can grab input and use that in scripts of course :) [JS] Bash, ksh, and other shells have a read command that can be used to take input from the console (or other sources). Regards, Jerry Schwartz The Infoshop by Global Information Incorporated 195 Farmington Ave. Farmington, CT 06032 860.674.8796 / FAX: 860.674.8341 www.the-infoshop.com www.giiexpress.com www.etudes-marche.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I'm a MySQL DBA in china. More about me just visit here: http://yueliangdao0608.cublog.cn
RE: Deployment of Database in a DEB package.
That's true, you would need to consider that risk. Can a DEB package ask for information before deployment? If so you could ask for the username/password and run the mysql command using the provided info. Therefore not risking the problem of having a username/password within the files. Although I am making a big assumption on whether you can grab input and use that in scripts of course :) Dave -Original Message- From: Andre Matos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 October 2008 17:51 To: Heston James - Cold Beans Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: Re: Deployment of Database in a DEB package. Just be aware about the security. I use shell or perl scripts to make automatic dumps (backups) or updates/changes in the database. Unfortunately, because they are automatic scripts, I need to add the username and password inside the scripts and if someone else have access to these scripts (e.g., read access), he/she will see this information. Andre On 2-Oct-08, at 11:57 AM, Heston James - Cold Beans wrote: Dave, This looks like a perfect solution. We can indeed use a shell script for the task in hand and knowing that we an action the .sql script so simply from the command line like that makes life very simple indeed :-) I can't see this will cause too many challenges. Thanks Dave, I appreciate it a great deal. Heston -Original Message- From: Ellison, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 October 2008 07:24 To: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: RE: Deployment of Database in a DEB package. I know nothing of DEB packages. However, when we need to change / make a database etc on automatic scripts. We would write the script and save it to a .sql file on console. We would then create a shell script that had something like: mysql -u username -p etc yourinsertsql.sql Essentially the username would have the ability to create tables/ db's if the DB does not exist already, so make sure the user exists first. If you wanted to remove the DB afterwards, although if a DEB can do it, ask first if you want to remove the DB. Have another .sql script with essentially dropping the database. Then same again a shell that: mysql -u username -p etc yourremovesql.sql This is of course assuming you can refer to a shell script in a DEB package. But from what I have seen when using them, I would guess they are used. Hope this helped. Dave -Original Message- From: Heston James - Cold Beans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 October 2008 15:22 To: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: Deployment of Database in a DEB package. Afternoon All, I'm hoping you'll have some recommendations for me on this little challenge. I have an application which we're preparing to deploy in a DEB package using APT on Debian based systems, although I would imagine this very same rule/process applies to other packaging methods. On the back end of my application we have a MySQL Database which needs to be created as part of the deployment process, which is automated in a script, usually SHELL or Perl, something like that. How would you deploy the database using an automated script? Would you have a SQL script which you action through the console to create the database? What's the simplest way to action a SQL script to run on the local server? Do we need to keep in mind what permissions/users are assigned to the database? In addition to this create script, we'll also need to have an automated, scripted process for removing the database if the package is removed, I'd be interested to get your thoughts on that too. Thanks in advance for any suggestions guys, Heston This message has been scanned for viruses by MailControl - (see http://bluepages.wsatkins.co.uk/?6875772) This email and any attached files are confidential and copyright protected. If you are not the addressee, any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. Unless otherwise expressly agreed in writing, nothing stated in this communication shall be legally binding. The ultimate parent company of the Atkins Group is WS Atkins plc. Registered in England No. 1885586. Registered Office Woodcote Grove, Ashley Road, Epsom, Surrey KT18 5BW. A list of wholly owned Atkins Group companies registered in the United Kingdom can be found at http://www.atkinsglobal.com/terms_and_conditions/index.aspx Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dr. André Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL
RE: Deployment of Database in a DEB package.
Andre, Dave, Thanks for pointing this out guys. I would certainly like to think about this and see what the best option is. Dave, we can effectively have the scripts do anything we like in the DEB package so we could certainly have it request the username and password from somewhere, either the user or a remote server. In all honest though, the data which is kept in the database, or the database itself is of no real consequence at all and if it call hot destroyed it really wouldnt matter in the slightest, it merely serves as a basic storage mechanism for an application. Cheers, Heston -Original Message- From: Ellison, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 October 2008 07:35 To: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: RE: Deployment of Database in a DEB package. That's true, you would need to consider that risk. Can a DEB package ask for information before deployment? If so you could ask for the username/password and run the mysql command using the provided info. Therefore not risking the problem of having a username/password within the files. Although I am making a big assumption on whether you can grab input and use that in scripts of course :) Dave -Original Message- From: Andre Matos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 October 2008 17:51 To: Heston James - Cold Beans Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: Re: Deployment of Database in a DEB package. Just be aware about the security. I use shell or perl scripts to make automatic dumps (backups) or updates/changes in the database. Unfortunately, because they are automatic scripts, I need to add the username and password inside the scripts and if someone else have access to these scripts (e.g., read access), he/she will see this information. Andre On 2-Oct-08, at 11:57 AM, Heston James - Cold Beans wrote: Dave, This looks like a perfect solution. We can indeed use a shell script for the task in hand and knowing that we an action the .sql script so simply from the command line like that makes life very simple indeed :-) I can't see this will cause too many challenges. Thanks Dave, I appreciate it a great deal. Heston -Original Message- From: Ellison, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 October 2008 07:24 To: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: RE: Deployment of Database in a DEB package. I know nothing of DEB packages. However, when we need to change / make a database etc on automatic scripts. We would write the script and save it to a .sql file on console. We would then create a shell script that had something like: mysql -u username -p etc yourinsertsql.sql Essentially the username would have the ability to create tables/ db's if the DB does not exist already, so make sure the user exists first. If you wanted to remove the DB afterwards, although if a DEB can do it, ask first if you want to remove the DB. Have another .sql script with essentially dropping the database. Then same again a shell that: mysql -u username -p etc yourremovesql.sql This is of course assuming you can refer to a shell script in a DEB package. But from what I have seen when using them, I would guess they are used. Hope this helped. Dave -Original Message- From: Heston James - Cold Beans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 October 2008 15:22 To: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: Deployment of Database in a DEB package. Afternoon All, I'm hoping you'll have some recommendations for me on this little challenge. I have an application which we're preparing to deploy in a DEB package using APT on Debian based systems, although I would imagine this very same rule/process applies to other packaging methods. On the back end of my application we have a MySQL Database which needs to be created as part of the deployment process, which is automated in a script, usually SHELL or Perl, something like that. How would you deploy the database using an automated script? Would you have a SQL script which you action through the console to create the database? What's the simplest way to action a SQL script to run on the local server? Do we need to keep in mind what permissions/users are assigned to the database? In addition to this create script, we'll also need to have an automated, scripted process for removing the database if the package is removed, I'd be interested to get your thoughts on that too. Thanks in advance for any suggestions guys, Heston This message has been scanned for viruses by MailControl - (see http://bluepages.wsatkins.co.uk/?6875772) This email and any attached files are confidential and copyright protected. If you are not the addressee, any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. Unless otherwise expressly agreed in writing, nothing stated in this communication shall be legally binding. The ultimate parent company of the Atkins Group is WS Atkins plc. Registered in England No. 1885586
RE: Deployment of Database in a DEB package.
-Original Message- From: Ellison, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 2:35 AM To: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: RE: Deployment of Database in a DEB package. That's true, you would need to consider that risk. Can a DEB package ask for information before deployment? If so you could ask for the username/password and run the mysql command using the provided info. Therefore not risking the problem of having a username/password within the files. Although I am making a big assumption on whether you can grab input and use that in scripts of course :) [JS] Bash, ksh, and other shells have a read command that can be used to take input from the console (or other sources). Regards, Jerry Schwartz The Infoshop by Global Information Incorporated 195 Farmington Ave. Farmington, CT 06032 860.674.8796 / FAX: 860.674.8341 www.the-infoshop.com www.giiexpress.com www.etudes-marche.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Deployment of Database in a DEB package.
I know nothing of DEB packages. However, when we need to change / make a database etc on automatic scripts. We would write the script and save it to a .sql file on console. We would then create a shell script that had something like: mysql -u username -p etc yourinsertsql.sql Essentially the username would have the ability to create tables/db's if the DB does not exist already, so make sure the user exists first. If you wanted to remove the DB afterwards, although if a DEB can do it, ask first if you want to remove the DB. Have another .sql script with essentially dropping the database. Then same again a shell that: mysql -u username -p etc yourremovesql.sql This is of course assuming you can refer to a shell script in a DEB package. But from what I have seen when using them, I would guess they are used. Hope this helped. Dave -Original Message- From: Heston James - Cold Beans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 October 2008 15:22 To: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: Deployment of Database in a DEB package. Afternoon All, I'm hoping you'll have some recommendations for me on this little challenge. I have an application which we're preparing to deploy in a DEB package using APT on Debian based systems, although I would imagine this very same rule/process applies to other packaging methods. On the back end of my application we have a MySQL Database which needs to be created as part of the deployment process, which is automated in a script, usually SHELL or Perl, something like that. How would you deploy the database using an automated script? Would you have a SQL script which you action through the console to create the database? What's the simplest way to action a SQL script to run on the local server? Do we need to keep in mind what permissions/users are assigned to the database? In addition to this create script, we'll also need to have an automated, scripted process for removing the database if the package is removed, I'd be interested to get your thoughts on that too. Thanks in advance for any suggestions guys, Heston This message has been scanned for viruses by MailControl - (see http://bluepages.wsatkins.co.uk/?6875772) This email and any attached files are confidential and copyright protected. If you are not the addressee, any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. Unless otherwise expressly agreed in writing, nothing stated in this communication shall be legally binding. The ultimate parent company of the Atkins Group is WS Atkins plc. Registered in England No. 1885586. Registered Office Woodcote Grove, Ashley Road, Epsom, Surrey KT18 5BW. A list of wholly owned Atkins Group companies registered in the United Kingdom can be found at http://www.atkinsglobal.com/terms_and_conditions/index.aspx Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Deployment of Database in a DEB package.
Dave, This looks like a perfect solution. We can indeed use a shell script for the task in hand and knowing that we an action the .sql script so simply from the command line like that makes life very simple indeed :-) I can't see this will cause too many challenges. Thanks Dave, I appreciate it a great deal. Heston -Original Message- From: Ellison, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 October 2008 07:24 To: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: RE: Deployment of Database in a DEB package. I know nothing of DEB packages. However, when we need to change / make a database etc on automatic scripts. We would write the script and save it to a .sql file on console. We would then create a shell script that had something like: mysql -u username -p etc yourinsertsql.sql Essentially the username would have the ability to create tables/db's if the DB does not exist already, so make sure the user exists first. If you wanted to remove the DB afterwards, although if a DEB can do it, ask first if you want to remove the DB. Have another .sql script with essentially dropping the database. Then same again a shell that: mysql -u username -p etc yourremovesql.sql This is of course assuming you can refer to a shell script in a DEB package. But from what I have seen when using them, I would guess they are used. Hope this helped. Dave -Original Message- From: Heston James - Cold Beans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 October 2008 15:22 To: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: Deployment of Database in a DEB package. Afternoon All, I'm hoping you'll have some recommendations for me on this little challenge. I have an application which we're preparing to deploy in a DEB package using APT on Debian based systems, although I would imagine this very same rule/process applies to other packaging methods. On the back end of my application we have a MySQL Database which needs to be created as part of the deployment process, which is automated in a script, usually SHELL or Perl, something like that. How would you deploy the database using an automated script? Would you have a SQL script which you action through the console to create the database? What's the simplest way to action a SQL script to run on the local server? Do we need to keep in mind what permissions/users are assigned to the database? In addition to this create script, we'll also need to have an automated, scripted process for removing the database if the package is removed, I'd be interested to get your thoughts on that too. Thanks in advance for any suggestions guys, Heston This message has been scanned for viruses by MailControl - (see http://bluepages.wsatkins.co.uk/?6875772) This email and any attached files are confidential and copyright protected. If you are not the addressee, any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. Unless otherwise expressly agreed in writing, nothing stated in this communication shall be legally binding. The ultimate parent company of the Atkins Group is WS Atkins plc. Registered in England No. 1885586. Registered Office Woodcote Grove, Ashley Road, Epsom, Surrey KT18 5BW. A list of wholly owned Atkins Group companies registered in the United Kingdom can be found at http://www.atkinsglobal.com/terms_and_conditions/index.aspx Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Deployment of Database in a DEB package.
Just be aware about the security. I use shell or perl scripts to make automatic dumps (backups) or updates/changes in the database. Unfortunately, because they are automatic scripts, I need to add the username and password inside the scripts and if someone else have access to these scripts (e.g., read access), he/she will see this information. Andre On 2-Oct-08, at 11:57 AM, Heston James - Cold Beans wrote: Dave, This looks like a perfect solution. We can indeed use a shell script for the task in hand and knowing that we an action the .sql script so simply from the command line like that makes life very simple indeed :-) I can't see this will cause too many challenges. Thanks Dave, I appreciate it a great deal. Heston -Original Message- From: Ellison, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 October 2008 07:24 To: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: RE: Deployment of Database in a DEB package. I know nothing of DEB packages. However, when we need to change / make a database etc on automatic scripts. We would write the script and save it to a .sql file on console. We would then create a shell script that had something like: mysql -u username -p etc yourinsertsql.sql Essentially the username would have the ability to create tables/ db's if the DB does not exist already, so make sure the user exists first. If you wanted to remove the DB afterwards, although if a DEB can do it, ask first if you want to remove the DB. Have another .sql script with essentially dropping the database. Then same again a shell that: mysql -u username -p etc yourremovesql.sql This is of course assuming you can refer to a shell script in a DEB package. But from what I have seen when using them, I would guess they are used. Hope this helped. Dave -Original Message- From: Heston James - Cold Beans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 October 2008 15:22 To: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: Deployment of Database in a DEB package. Afternoon All, I'm hoping you'll have some recommendations for me on this little challenge. I have an application which we're preparing to deploy in a DEB package using APT on Debian based systems, although I would imagine this very same rule/process applies to other packaging methods. On the back end of my application we have a MySQL Database which needs to be created as part of the deployment process, which is automated in a script, usually SHELL or Perl, something like that. How would you deploy the database using an automated script? Would you have a SQL script which you action through the console to create the database? What's the simplest way to action a SQL script to run on the local server? Do we need to keep in mind what permissions/users are assigned to the database? In addition to this create script, we'll also need to have an automated, scripted process for removing the database if the package is removed, I'd be interested to get your thoughts on that too. Thanks in advance for any suggestions guys, Heston This message has been scanned for viruses by MailControl - (see http://bluepages.wsatkins.co.uk/?6875772) This email and any attached files are confidential and copyright protected. If you are not the addressee, any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. Unless otherwise expressly agreed in writing, nothing stated in this communication shall be legally binding. The ultimate parent company of the Atkins Group is WS Atkins plc. Registered in England No. 1885586. Registered Office Woodcote Grove, Ashley Road, Epsom, Surrey KT18 5BW. A list of wholly owned Atkins Group companies registered in the United Kingdom can be found at http://www.atkinsglobal.com/terms_and_conditions/index.aspx Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dr. André Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
