Re: Video game programming????
On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 01:31:59AM +0530, Nilesh Parmar wrote: Hi I was just browsing thru the amazon.com site and just happened to read a customer review on the MySQL (other new riders) book by Paul DuBios and Michael Widenius. It has a wierd review from someone which says I was extremely dissapointed to say the least. This book doesn't even begin to cover **video game programming in mySQL**, not even the basics. In fact, it doesn't cover **video game programming at all**. . blah blah . The line that caught my attention was the one which are inside the ** symbols. Now, this was something new to me.So, i just thought if anyone could tell me more on this. What's video game programming got to do with MySQL ?? and what does he mean by this. Can anyone enlighten me on this ?? Ah, the Perl and MySQL for the Web book, I imagine. Whoever posted that review was an idiot. As one of the technical reviewers for the book, I bugs me to see that sort of comment there. I believe it's a really good book. I'm sure that others who have read it will agree. I've already recommended it to a few co-workers just for a few specific chapters. Jeremy -- Jeremy D. Zawodny, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Yahoo - Yahoo Finance Desk: (408) 349-7878 Fax: (408) 349-5454 Cell: (408) 685-5936 MySQL 3.23.41-max: up 6 days, processed 132,187,796 queries (248/sec. avg) - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: Video game programming????
It has a wierd review from someone which says I was extremely dissapointed to say the least. This book doesn't even begin to cover **video game programming in mySQL**, not even the basics. In fact, it doesn't cover **video game programming at all**. . blah blah . What's video game programming got to do with MySQL ?? Hi Nilesh, yes I saw that 'review' as well and my first thought was boy, what a class 1 jerk! (or a SQL Server advocate - same thing ;-) ! ). But then I got to thinking: 1. Two of MySQL's strengths are that it's small and fast - pre-requisites for video game work. 2. Most (and I would have thought all) games have pretty extensive data structures for player position, position of bad guys, ammo etc. Given this why couldn't MySQL be used as the data backend for a video game? In fact, once the geniuses at MySQL give us peer-to-peer replication then this would be ideal for some kind of MUD-type game, (each player would effectively have a local copy of the DB, transmit their moves out and receive other peoples moves). Even without this you could do a type of DOOM, where all the layout would be stored in the DB, heck, you could even have a leave-rejoin facility for multiple players, (single player game) since the DB could be used to store the users configuration, the same way it can be used to store personalised Web page configuration. Or maybe something similar to the old SGI flight/dog 'sims', (that was an ace timewaster and I sure wish someone would port it to Linux!) Further it occurs to my fevered imagination that you could use Blender to make the graphics bit for a DOOM clone, and link it to a MySQL backend, or embed it. AFAIK Blender uses Python and I seem to remember seeing a Python interface to MySQL. Ain't MySQL wonderful, and so flexible too! Bob Cross, rapidly turning into a major MySQL advocate. Disclaimer 1: The rabid dribblings above are personal to the author only, my employer has much more common sense. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or protected by other legal rules. It does not constitute an offer or acceptance of an offer, nor shall it form any part of a legally binding contract. If you have received this communication in error, please let us know by reply then destroy it. You should not use, print, copy the message or disclose its contents to anyone. E-mail is subject to possible data corruption, is not secure, and its content does not necessarily represent the opinion of this Company. No representation or warranty is made as to the accuracy or completeness of the information and no liability can be accepted for any loss arising from its use. This e-mail and any attachments are not guaranteed to be free from so-called computer viruses and it is recommended that you check for such viruses before down-loading it to your computer equipment. This Company has no control over other websites to which there may be hypertext links and no liability can be accepted in relation to those sites. Scottish Newcastle plc Registered in Scotland, Registered Number 16288 Registered Office: 33, Ellersly Road, Edinburgh, EH12 6HX * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
RE: Video game programming????
database, sql, query, table database, sql, query, table (I hate 123box.co.uk) Im not gonna go into long discussions of game programming in here. But the reason most people dont use a database backend for most modern games is more a matter of speed than anything else. You cant get an average of over 45fps in anything but a simple game, if you are storing the data in a database. Its much faster to use a c++ class, or good old c struct to store data than use an interface to a database. Im sure there are many types of games where a database would be suitable. But most 'video games' are all about high-speed constant action which require incredibly fast data processing. Im not against MySQL at all, its great for my work requirements, im just not sure its suitable for a 'video game'. Andrew -Original Message- From: Robert Cross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 September 2001 10:31 am To: Nilesh Parmar Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Video game programming It has a wierd review from someone which says I was extremely dissapointed to say the least. This book doesn't even begin to cover **video game programming in mySQL**, not even the basics. In fact, it doesn't cover **video game programming at all**. . blah blah . What's video game programming got to do with MySQL ?? Hi Nilesh, yes I saw that 'review' as well and my first thought was boy, what a class 1 jerk! (or a SQL Server advocate - same thing ;-) ! ). But then I got to thinking: 1. Two of MySQL's strengths are that it's small and fast - pre-requisites for video game work. 2. Most (and I would have thought all) games have pretty extensive data structures for player position, position of bad guys, ammo etc. Given this why couldn't MySQL be used as the data backend for a video game? In fact, once the geniuses at MySQL give us peer-to-peer replication then this would be ideal for some kind of MUD-type game, (each player would effectively have a local copy of the DB, transmit their moves out and receive other peoples moves). Even without this you could do a type of DOOM, where all the layout would be stored in the DB, heck, you could even have a leave-rejoin facility for multiple players, (single player game) since the DB could be used to store the users configuration, the same way it can be used to store personalised Web page configuration. Or maybe something similar to the old SGI flight/dog 'sims', (that was an ace timewaster and I sure wish someone would port it to Linux!) Further it occurs to my fevered imagination that you could use Blender to make the graphics bit for a DOOM clone, and link it to a MySQL backend, or embed it. AFAIK Blender uses Python and I seem to remember seeing a Python interface to MySQL. Ain't MySQL wonderful, and so flexible too! Bob Cross, rapidly turning into a major MySQL advocate. Disclaimer 1: The rabid dribblings above are personal to the author only, my employer has much more common sense. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This message is confidential. It may also be privileged or protected by other legal rules. It does not constitute an offer or acceptance of an offer, nor shall it form any part of a legally binding contract. If you have received this communication in error, please let us know by reply then destroy it. You should not use, print, copy the message or disclose its contents to anyone. E-mail is subject to possible data corruption, is not secure, and its content does not necessarily represent the opinion of this Company. No representation or warranty is made as to the accuracy or completeness of the information and no liability can be accepted for any loss arising from its use. This e-mail and any attachments are not guaranteed to be free from so-called computer viruses and it is recommended that you check for such viruses before down-loading it to your computer equipment. This Company has no control over other websites to which there may be hypertext links and no liability can be accepted in relation to those sites. Scottish Newcastle plc Registered in Scotland, Registered Number 16288 Registered Office: 33, Ellersly Road, Edinburgh, EH12 6HX * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: Video game programming????
At 1:31 AM +0530 9/12/01, Nilesh Parmar wrote: Hi I was just browsing thru the amazon.com site and just happened to read a customer review on the MySQL (other new riders) book by Paul DuBios and Michael Widenius. It has a wierd review from someone which says I was extremely dissapointed to say the least. This book doesn't even begin to cover **video game programming in mySQL**, not even the basics. In fact, it doesn't cover **video game programming at all**. . blah blah . The line that caught my attention was the one which are inside the ** symbols. Now, this was something new to me.So, i just thought if anyone could tell me more on this. What's video game programming got to do with MySQL ?? and what does he mean by this. Can anyone enlighten me on this ?? Thanx in advance. Nilesh Just a follow-up on the various theories that have been posted about this review. (It refers to MySQL and not MySQL and Perl for the Web, by the way.) Here's the review in its entirety: [1 star] Don't waste your time..., April 17, 2001 Reviewer: Joey Ramone (see more about me) from Loves Park, IL I was extremely dissapointed to say the least. This book doesn't even begin to cover video game programming in mySQL, not even the basics. In fact, it doesn't cover video game programming at all. The section on compiling for DOS must have been lost on the way to the printing press... While the plot had substance to it, the ending was predictable and unoriginal... The review is a satire. Note who it's by: Joey Ramone (of The Ramones). It was posted the day after Joey Ramone died, perhaps as some sort of weird tribute, and it's deliberately got nothing to do with what the book's really about. -- Paul DuBois, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
