Re: MySQL book

2004-07-27 Thread Rory McKinley
Gerald Taylor wrote:
I totally recommend Paul Dubois's book.
Excellent book I own the first edition.
 I bet the second edition is just
as good and more up to date.
Paul DuBois wrote:
At 1:55 +0200 7/26/04, Schalk Neethling wrote:
Can anyone suggest o great book to learn MySQL inside out? I am 
thinking of getting: *MySQL By* Paul DuBois 
http://www.informit.com/safari/author_bio.asp?ISBN=0735709211 - 
New Riders Publishing

That's the first edition.  I would suggest getting the second edition
instead. :-)  (http://www.kitebird.com/mysql-book/)


I have both and the second edition is even better than the first. Highly 
recommended.

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Re: MySQL book

2004-07-26 Thread Gerald Taylor
I totally recommend Paul Dubois's book.
Excellent book I own the first edition.
 I bet the second edition is just
as good and more up to date.
Paul DuBois wrote:
At 1:55 +0200 7/26/04, Schalk Neethling wrote:
Can anyone suggest o great book to learn MySQL inside out? I am 
thinking of getting: *MySQL By* Paul DuBois 
http://www.informit.com/safari/author_bio.asp?ISBN=0735709211 - New 
Riders Publishing

That's the first edition.  I would suggest getting the second edition
instead. :-)  (http://www.kitebird.com/mysql-book/)

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RE: MySQL book

2004-07-25 Thread Schalk Neethling
Can anyone suggest o great book to learn MySQL inside out? I am thinking 
of getting: *MySQL By* Paul DuBois 
http://www.informit.com/safari/author_bio.asp?ISBN=0735709211 - New 
Riders Publishing

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RE: MySQL book

2004-07-25 Thread Paul DuBois
At 1:55 +0200 7/26/04, Schalk Neethling wrote:
Can anyone suggest o great book to learn MySQL inside out? I am 
thinking of getting: *MySQL By* Paul DuBois 
http://www.informit.com/safari/author_bio.asp?ISBN=0735709211 - 
New Riders Publishing
That's the first edition.  I would suggest getting the second edition
instead. :-)  (http://www.kitebird.com/mysql-book/)
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Re: MySQL book TOC

2003-02-11 Thread Michael T. Babcock
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 10:47:55PM -0800, Nasser Ossareh wrote:
 
 SQL in the What is SQL? phrase threw me... I thought
 you were talking about MS SQL..

SQL is and should be known as a query language, not a product.
It should be perhaps clarified the first time it is used as
not refering to the Microsoft SQL Server product often mis-
named as 'SQL' itself (by people who don't know what SQL is).

 If I were you, I would explain relational databases
 and normalization (at list to normal form III).

Very well described by many other books; especially Oracle
certification books.

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Re: MySQL book TOC

2003-02-10 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 03:20:47PM +0500, Vikram Vaswani wrote:
 
 My name is Vikram Vaswani, and I'm currently working on the outline for a
 MySQL reference book. This is supposed to be a comprehensive reference to
 MySQL 4, covering all aspects of the software, including the new
 transaction/subquery features.

Call me biased, but that and this...

 Since I'm not that experienced with MySQL

Don't seem like the right combination.  Did you mean not that
experienced writing about MySQL?  Or are you really new to MySQL and
trying to write a book about it?

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Re: MySQL book TOC

2003-02-10 Thread R. Hannes Niedner
On 2/7/03 2:20 AM, Vikram Vaswani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 My name is Vikram Vaswani, and I'm currently working on the outline for a
 MySQL reference book. This is supposed to be a comprehensive reference to
 MySQL 4, covering all aspects of the software, including the new
 transaction/subquery features.
 
 I have put together a draft table of contents (TOC), but am a little
 hesitant about some aspects of it. I have a nagging feeling that I'm
 missing out on a lot of things here, and also that it might bs structured
 better. Specifically, I was hoping that this list would help me in
 evaluating the structure and content of Section 2 below.
 
 Since I'm not that experienced with MySQL, I thought I'd open this up to
 the list and see if you guys could help me figure out what's bugging me :)
 I'd appreciate as much feedback as possible, since my aim here is to
 produce something that would hopefully be useful to you in your usage of
 MySQL (and also stand out from the crowd of other MySQL books in the market)
 
 Thanks! I look forward to hearing back.
 
 Vikram Vaswani

Maybe you come a little bit late: First there is an excellent manual out
(referenced in every list message footer - and now even in print) and on top
of that we already have the great books from Paul DeBois.
http://www.kitebird.com/
http://www.mysql.com/doc/en/index.html
I would strongly recommend that you check out both sources before you start
writing. It might well be that topics such as subselects and other advanced
features  are not as well covered since they will be introduced in V 4.1 but
still there is plenty of general SQL books out here already.

But in any case I am as a single person don't define the market anyway thus
lets hear what others have to say. You certainly came to the right place to
find out.

Best/h


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Re: MySQL book TOC

2003-02-10 Thread Nasser Ossareh
my 2 cents:

SQL in the What is SQL? phrase threw me... I thought
you were talking about MS SQL..

If I were you, I would explain relational databases
and normalization (at list to normal form III).

Usage?? well whoever goes to buy your book, must have
some ideas in head for the usage.. I don't think you
should waste trees on telling people things that don't
help them.

One Question: What makes this book different from the
MySQL manual?

Another Question: Who is your intended audience?

A suggestion: Think of substantial examples

How about performance? and Performance tuning?

Good luck

--- Vikram Vaswani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 My name is Vikram Vaswani, and I'm currently working
 on the outline for a
 MySQL reference book. This is supposed to be a
 comprehensive reference to
 MySQL 4, covering all aspects of the software,
 including the new
 transaction/subquery features.
 
 I have put together a draft table of contents (TOC),
 but am a little
 hesitant about some aspects of it. I have a nagging
 feeling that I'm
 missing out on a lot of things here, and also that
 it might bs structured
 better. Specifically, I was hoping that this list
 would help me in
 evaluating the structure and content of Section 2
 below. 
 
 Since I'm not that experienced with MySQL, I thought
 I'd open this up to
 the list and see if you guys could help me figure
 out what's bugging me :)
 I'd appreciate as much feedback as possible, since
 my aim here is to
 produce something that would hopefully be useful to
 you in your usage of
 MySQL (and also stand out from the crowd of other
 MySQL books in the market)
 
 Thanks! I look forward to hearing back.
 
 Vikram Vaswani
 
 --
 TOC
 
 Section 1: Installation
 
 1.Introduction to MySQL   
 What is MySQL?
 History
 Features
 Future development
 
 2. Installing
 Linux
 Windows
 
 Section 2: Usage
 
 3.Introduction to Databases and SQL 
 What is SQL?
 SQL variants
 SQL features
 SQL syntax
 A sample SQL session
 
 4.MySQL Data Types
 Basic data types
   String and string variants
   Integer and integer variants
   Date and time types
   Boolean types
   Null type
 Advanced data types
   Enum (choice) type
   Binary object type
 
 
 5.MySQL Syntax (Working With Databases) - CREATE,
 DROP, SHOW
 Understanding how databases are stored on the file
 system
 Creating a database
 Viewing available databases
 Deleting a database
 
 Do I need to add info on the InnoDB/Berkelet/MyISAM
 types here? And
 how/when to select each?
 
 6.MySQL Syntax (Working With Tables) - DESCRIBE,
 SELECT, INSERT, UPDATE,
 DELETE, APPEND, joins
 Understanding how tables are stored on the file
 system 
 MySQL table types
 Creating a table
 Viewing available tables
 Creating table columns
 Inserting records
 Viewing table records
 Editing (updating) table records
 Joining tables
 Erasing records
 Altering columns
 Erasing columns
 Erasing tables
 
 What have I missed here?
 
 7.MySQL Syntax (Working With Tables - Advanced) -
 Indices, transactions and
 sub-queries 
 Advanced joins
 Sub-queries 
 Indices
 Transactions
 Stored procedures
 
 Do you think I need a separate chapter for each of
 the above?
 
 What have I missed here?
 
 Section 3: Administration
 
 Section 4: Development
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Re: MySQL book TOC

2003-02-10 Thread Vikram Vaswani
Jeremy - the first one ;)

Any comments on the TOC?

Vikram

At 02:46 PM 2/8/03 -0800, Jeremy Zawodny wrote:
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 03:20:47PM +0500, Vikram Vaswani wrote:
 
 My name is Vikram Vaswani, and I'm currently working on the outline for a
 MySQL reference book. This is supposed to be a comprehensive reference to
 MySQL 4, covering all aspects of the software, including the new
 transaction/subquery features.

Call me biased, but that and this...

 Since I'm not that experienced with MySQL

Don't seem like the right combination.  Did you mean not that
experienced writing about MySQL?  Or are you really new to MySQL and
trying to write a book about it?

Jeremy


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Re: MySQL book TOC

2003-02-10 Thread Vikram Vaswani
Hi Nasser,

Usage?? well whoever goes to buy your book, must have
some ideas in head for the usage.. I don't think you
should waste trees on telling people things that don't
help them.

One Question: What makes this book different from the
MySQL manual?

Well, it's not supposed to replace the manual by any means - it's just
supposed to offer novice-intermediate users a starting point to MySQL usage

Another Question: Who is your intended audience?

Novice to intermediate users

A suggestion: Think of substantial examples

How about performance? and Performance tuning?

I am planning to cover this, but in the latter sections of the book.
Fundamentally, my problem is with the Section 2 - I am not sure what level
of detail to go to in this section. Any assistance you or other list
members could provide would be very helpful :)

Thanks for your response,

Vikram

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Re: MySQL Book by Dubois - Pg. 63 Tutorial Question

2002-06-26 Thread DavidCraig


You are correct.  It was a typo on my part.  I forgot to copy the AND in
the AND event.event_id = score.event_id;  The problem is the same and I
still receive an empty set message.  You are also correct that there are
events with the date of 1999-09-23.  TIA for any assistance.

D. H. Craig, CSM


   
   
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At 19:40 -0400 6/25/02, John Coder wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


mysqlSELECT date, type, event_id
FROM event;

date  type  event_id
1999-09-03   Q  1
1999-09-03   Q  2
...  .

Your date shows 199-09-03


mysql  SELECT student_id, date, score, type
-FROM event, score
-WHERE date = 1999-09-23
-event.event_id = score.event_id;
Empty set  0.00 sec
mysql

You qre asking for dates = 1999-09-23
Hence nothing matches

Good try, but ... Bzzzt!  :-)

He only showed part of the table; there actually are records that
match 1999-09-23.

The real cause is more likely that there is a missing AND in the WHERE
clause, which should read:

WHERE date = 1999-09-23
AND event.event_id = score.event_id



Why doesn't the query show any records?  What am I doing wrong.   Why is
all I get an empty set?  Any help would be appreciated.

TIA

Dave Craig

D. H. Craig, CSM






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Re: MySQL Book

2002-04-05 Thread Christopher Thompson

On Friday 05 April 2002 10:29 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We are writing a book about MySQL. There will be emphasis on using MySQL
 with perl/php, .net  java. The publisher needs lots of emphasis on SPs and
 nested subqueries. We need to be able to write about implementing biz rules
 using table constraints, which means FKs. Your site says 4.1 is to have

I must say, I think this is rather short-sighted of your publisher.  I 
obviously do not speak for the MySQL folks but I don't think you should write 
a book on product features which do not exist yet.

That said, it is often a better idea to move business logic out of the 
database and into another layer instead.  At my previous job, we had to do 
this with MS SQL Server 2000 because the built-in triggers and foreign keys 
and the like were simply too slow so we did it programatically instead.  Of 
course, we still used tranactions to ensure things were either all committed 
or all rolled back.

In my opinion, this is the right approach to take with MySQL.

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RE: MySQL Book

2002-04-05 Thread Todd Williamsen

I agree with Chris...

Writing a book on features that do not exist yet is asking for trouble.


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From: Christopher Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MySQL Book


On Friday 05 April 2002 10:29 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 We are writing a book about MySQL. There will be emphasis on using
MySQL
 with perl/php, .net  java. The publisher needs lots of emphasis on
SPs and
 nested subqueries. We need to be able to write about implementing biz
rules
 using table constraints, which means FKs. Your site says 4.1 is to
have

I must say, I think this is rather short-sighted of your publisher.  I 
obviously do not speak for the MySQL folks but I don't think you should
write 
a book on product features which do not exist yet.

That said, it is often a better idea to move business logic out of the 
database and into another layer instead.  At my previous job, we had to
do 
this with MS SQL Server 2000 because the built-in triggers and foreign
keys 
and the like were simply too slow so we did it programatically instead.
Of 
course, we still used tranactions to ensure things were either all
committed 
or all rolled back.

In my opinion, this is the right approach to take with MySQL.

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Re: MySQL Book

2002-04-05 Thread Heikki Tuuri

Hi!

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Subject: MySQL Book


 We are writing a book about MySQL. There will be emphasis on using MySQL
with perl/php, .net  java. The publisher needs lots of emphasis on SPs and
nested subqueries. We need to be able to write about implementing biz rules
using table constraints, which means FKs. Your site says 4.1 is to have
support for nested subQs, SPs and FKs with an alpha in early 2002, which
is now but 4.0 is still alpha!

 1. When can we have a 4.1 supporting nested subqueries, SPs  FKs?

InnoDB type tables support foreign keys already in MySQL-3.23. See
http://www.innodb.com/ibman.html#InnoDB_foreign_keys and
http://www.innodb.com/todo.html.

The current source tree of 4.1 already does some SQL subqueries.

An inofficial timetable for stored procedures is 1 year.

 2. What would be a good way for us to be in your devel/test loop?

Simply download new versions from www.mysql.com, and test the features
mentioned in the changelog in the manuals at
http://www.mysql.com/doc/N/e/News-4.0.x.html and
http://www.innodb.com/ibman.html#InnoDB_history.

 Peter Brawley
 Arthur Fuller

Best regards,

Heikki Tuuri
Innobase Oy




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Re: MySQL Book

2002-02-22 Thread BD

At 04:38 PM 2/21/2002 , you wrote:
At 22:15 + 2/21/02, DL Neil wrote:
  MySQL by Paul DuBoise

Paul monitors this mailing list, so if you have questions concerning what
you've read, he may answer.

You added an e to my name deliberately just to see if I'd reply,
didn't you!  :-)

Not really, but because he thinks you are Paul of Idaho!
=dn

I ain't ne'er been to Idaho even once!

I guess Paul doesn't like potatoes. lol

Brent

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RE: MySQL Book

2002-02-21 Thread Rick Emery

MySQL by Paul DuBoise

Paul monitors this mailing list, so if you have questions concerning what
you've read, he may answer.

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Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 1:08 PM
To: Mysql (E-mail)
Subject: MySQL Book


Any book you guys recommend for learning the specific strenght of MySQL, I'm
have a Oracle background and would like to learn more on MySQL.

Stephane

SQL, Query

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RE: MySQL Book

2002-02-21 Thread Gurhan Ozen

The bible is MySQL by PAul DuBois

ISBN: 0735709211

homepage: http://www.kitebird.com/mysql-book/

Gurhan

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Any book you guys recommend for learning the specific strenght of MySQL, I'm
have a Oracle background and would like to learn more on MySQL.

Stephane

SQL, Query

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RE: MySQL Book

2002-02-21 Thread Paul DuBois

At 13:25 -0600 2/21/02, Rick Emery wrote:
MySQL by Paul DuBoise

Paul monitors this mailing list, so if you have questions concerning what
you've read, he may answer.

You added an e to my name deliberately just to see if I'd reply,
didn't you!  :-)


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Subject: MySQL Book


Any book you guys recommend for learning the specific strenght of MySQL, I'm
have a Oracle background and would like to learn more on MySQL.

Stephane

SQL, Query


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RE: MySQL Book

2002-02-21 Thread Rick Emery

oops...

Do I get credit for capitalizing the B in DuBois?  GRIN

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At 13:25 -0600 2/21/02, Rick Emery wrote:
MySQL by Paul DuBoise

Paul monitors this mailing list, so if you have questions concerning what
you've read, he may answer.

You added an e to my name deliberately just to see if I'd reply,
didn't you!  :-)


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Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 1:08 PM
To: Mysql (E-mail)
Subject: MySQL Book


Any book you guys recommend for learning the specific strenght of MySQL,
I'm
have a Oracle background and would like to learn more on MySQL.

Stephane

SQL, Query

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Re: MySQL Book

2002-02-21 Thread DL Neil

MySQL by Paul DuBoise

Paul monitors this mailing list, so if you have questions concerning what
you've read, he may answer.

You added an e to my name deliberately just to see if I'd reply,
didn't you!  :-)

Not really, but because he thinks you are Paul of Idaho!
=dn



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Re: MySQL Book

2002-02-21 Thread Paul DuBois

At 22:15 + 2/21/02, DL Neil wrote:
  MySQL by Paul DuBoise

Paul monitors this mailing list, so if you have questions concerning what
you've read, he may answer.

You added an e to my name deliberately just to see if I'd reply,
didn't you!  :-)

Not really, but because he thinks you are Paul of Idaho!
=dn


I ain't ne'er been to Idaho even once!

Are there any baseball teams there?  Maybe I should go visit...

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Re: MySQL Book

2002-01-08 Thread Dr. Frank Ullrich

I prefer 

'MySQL' by Michael Kofler (Apres ISBN 1893115577)


D Bamud wrote:
 
 Which is the **best, easy, compact** book available on MySQL. Delhi India.
 
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RE: MySQL Book

2002-01-07 Thread Simon Green

MySQL by Paul DuBois
www.newriders.com
ISBN 0-7357-0921-1

This book is easy to use. 
It gets it right when it commes to newuser V olduser.
Its not that compact but it is to the pont.

Simon
PS you also helps on the list some times..

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RE: MySQL Book

2002-01-07 Thread John Lodge

MySql  mSQL O'Reilly press isbn 1-56592-434-7

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RE: MySQL Book

2002-01-07 Thread bill


 MySql  mSQL O'Reilly press isbn 1-56592-434-7
is probably the worst book about mysql.

Please note that the O'Reilly book was originally suppose to be about msql
but near the end of the project they noticed that mysql was gaining
popularity on msql so they threw in some information on
mysql.  Unfortunately it was too little, too late and didn't go through a
proper review cycle.

The second edition of the O'Reilly book is exclusively mysql and O'Reilly
has acknowledged the problems with the first book.  The 2nd edition should
be out sometime soon with a new title.

The best reference book on MySQL is still MySQL by Paul Dubois.


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Re: MySQL Book

2002-01-07 Thread mle

D Bamud wrote:

 Which is the **best, easy, compact** book available on MySQL. Delhi India.

I found that MySQL by Michael Kofler (Apress, ISBN 1-893115-57-7) was a
rather good and informative book.

Cheers,
Markus


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Re: MySQL Book

2002-01-07 Thread Doug Poland

 D Bamud wrote:
 
  Which is the **best, easy, compact** book available on MySQL. Delhi India.
 
MySQL by Paul Dubois,  New Riders Publishing, ISBN 0-7357-0921-1

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Re: MySQL Book

2002-01-07 Thread D Bamud

Ok. So majority is towards Paul DuBois. I went to the
http://www.newriders.com/  to see about this book and found that this book
was published in Dec 1999. Is new edition out. Is it good enough for new
version of MySQL 3.23.39 / MySQL 4.0.x. I do not want to buy a book that is
outdated or going to be outdated. Please comment.



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  D Bamud wrote:
 
   Which is the **best, easy, compact** book available on MySQL. Delhi
India.
 
 MySQL by Paul Dubois,  New Riders Publishing, ISBN 0-7357-0921-1

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Re: MySQL Book

2002-01-07 Thread Zu Zhihui

suitable for 3.22.x  3.23.x, but not enough good for 4.x

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 Ok. So majority is towards Paul DuBois. I went to the
 http://www.newriders.com/  to see about this book and found that this book
 was published in Dec 1999. Is new edition out. Is it good enough for new
 version of MySQL 3.23.39 / MySQL 4.0.x. I do not want to buy a book that
is
 outdated or going to be outdated. Please comment.



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   D Bamud wrote:
  
Which is the **best, easy, compact** book available on MySQL. Delhi
 India.
  
  MySQL by Paul Dubois,  New Riders Publishing, ISBN 0-7357-0921-1
 
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Re: MySQL Book

2002-01-07 Thread Count Schemula


--- D Bamud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 version of MySQL 3.23.39 / MySQL 4.0.x. I do not
 want to buy a book that is
 outdated or going to be outdated. Please comment.

Yes, but good books are good books. This is a good
book.

I use SuSE 7.3, but get a lot of information from 2
books I favor written for SuSE 6.3.



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