Re: mysql/php on Win2000

2002-03-26 Thread jake williamson 28


i've got IIS (so i can do ASP), apache, php, mysql and darwin streaming
server all running on a w2k box that i use for web dev.

i've set the services to start manually and depending on what i'm doing for
the day i'll start them up individually.

all works, it's fast and rarely give me hassle - redhat on the overhand has
been a nightmare to set up but then again, i'm only starting out on it...

the main thing is windows offers so many other web technologies (plugin 'n
stuff) that i need it!

bloody microsoft!

cheers,

jake

on 25/3/02 18:33, Andrew Hazen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi, if you think that IIS and Apache are going to have problems
> co-habitating then, yes, please tell me which services to kill.  On the
> other hand, I'm not using IIS for anything else, maybe I should try to
> uninstall it before installing Apache???
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Andrew Hazen


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RE: mysql/php on Win2000

2002-03-25 Thread Andrew Hazen

Hi, if you think that IIS and Apache are going to have problems
co-habitating then, yes, please tell me which services to kill.  On the
other hand, I'm not using IIS for anything else, maybe I should try to
uninstall it before installing Apache???

Thanks.

Andrew Hazen

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-Original Message-
From: Todd Williamsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 1:29 PM
To: 'Andrew Hazen'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: mysql/php on Win2000

IIS:  Kill the services, and disable them  If you need to know which
ones let me know.

Oracle8i:  No, they use different ports.  I run Oracle8, mySQL, SQL
Server7 without any problems

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Hazen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 10:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: mysql/php on Win2000


Hi,
I want to set up my home computer (PIII,Win2000) for development and
testing of php/mysql work.

I know that both will install and work on a Win2000 box, my questions
are about potential conflicts:

My Win2000 came with IIS, are there any hitches to using php/mysql with
IIS? Should I install Apache, and if so, do I need to completely
uninstall IIS?

I have a development edition of Oracle 8i running on the box already.
Will this create conflicts with mysql?  Does mysql run as a service that
I can turn off like Oracle?(in other words, can I turn each on/off
depending which I'm working with? Or are they happy running side by side
on the same box?)

Any advice, or links to useful docs would be appreciated.

Andrew Hazen
Database Developer
Jatech Solutions Inc.
160 Bartley Drive
Toronto, ON
M4A 1E1
www.jatech.ca
416-288-9833





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RE: mysql/php on Win2000

2002-03-25 Thread Todd Williamsen

IIS Services to kill:

IIS Admin
FTP Publishing Service
World Wide Wb Publishing Service

If my memory serves me right, if you stop the IIS admin service the rest
will stop as well.  But remember to disable them by going into Start |
Admin Tools | Services

And right click on  them chose Properties and select "Disable" in the
drop down box

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Hazen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 12:34 PM
To: 'Todd Williamsen'
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: mysql/php on Win2000


Hi, if you think that IIS and Apache are going to have problems
co-habitating then, yes, please tell me which services to kill.  On the
other hand, I'm not using IIS for anything else, maybe I should try to
uninstall it before installing Apache???

Thanks.

Andrew Hazen

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-Original Message-
From: Todd Williamsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 1:29 PM
To: 'Andrew Hazen'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: mysql/php on Win2000

IIS:  Kill the services, and disable them  If you need to know which
ones let me know.

Oracle8i:  No, they use different ports.  I run Oracle8, mySQL, SQL
Server7 without any problems

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Hazen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 10:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: mysql/php on Win2000


Hi,
I want to set up my home computer (PIII,Win2000) for development and
testing of php/mysql work.

I know that both will install and work on a Win2000 box, my questions
are about potential conflicts:

My Win2000 came with IIS, are there any hitches to using php/mysql with
IIS? Should I install Apache, and if so, do I need to completely
uninstall IIS?

I have a development edition of Oracle 8i running on the box already.
Will this create conflicts with mysql?  Does mysql run as a service that
I can turn off like Oracle?(in other words, can I turn each on/off
depending which I'm working with? Or are they happy running side by side
on the same box?)

Any advice, or links to useful docs would be appreciated.

Andrew Hazen
Database Developer
Jatech Solutions Inc.
160 Bartley Drive
Toronto, ON
M4A 1E1
www.jatech.ca
416-288-9833





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RE: mysql/php on Win2000

2002-03-25 Thread Todd Williamsen

I have found Win2k completely stable with Apache/PHP/mySQL.  Not one
issue!

If you are talking IIS combo, then yes issues will arise.  I don't see
any performance hit on this setup as a CGI.  I think you are being a bit
bias towards Windoze.  Windows 2k is quite stable.  The thing about
win2k is that it is as stable as the person who built it.  

I prefer to run PHP/mysql on its native platform of linux, but it runs
great on both systems.  

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From: Curtis Maurand [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 11:34 AM
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Subject: Re: mysql/php on Win2000



The only problem with Win2K is that a lot of the components for PHP
aren't
there.  Also PHP will run as an ISAPI module, but its not recommended.
The
preferred method is as a CGI (read 25% performance hit).  Win2K doesn't
multi-task/multi-thread as well as either of the *nix's mentioned and
its
not as efficient with memory utilization/swap as any *nix on or off the
market.  Even OS/2 was better about it than Windoze is.

Also bear in mind that I've never found Windows to be anywhere near as
stable as Unix, though its gotten better.

Curtis

Chris Hedemark said:
>> Any advice, or links to useful docs would be appreciated.
>
> You did say *any* advice.  Keep that in mind...
>
> My advice to you is to load some popular flavor of UNIX on that
> machine, such as Linux or OpenBSD, in order to have a more standard
> environment for this.  Windows may work, but you're going to be very
> lonely finding help for that combination of OS and software.  But on
> the UNIX side you can't throw a rock without hitting someone who is
> effectively running the combination of UNIX/Apache/MySQL/PHP.
>
>
>
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RE: mysql/php on Win2000

2002-03-25 Thread Todd Williamsen

IIS:  Kill the services, and disable them  If you need to know which
ones let me know.

Oracle8i:  No, they use different ports.  I run Oracle8, mySQL, SQL
Server7 without any problems

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Hazen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 10:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: mysql/php on Win2000


Hi,
I want to set up my home computer (PIII,Win2000) for development and
testing of php/mysql work.

I know that both will install and work on a Win2000 box, my questions
are about potential conflicts:

My Win2000 came with IIS, are there any hitches to using php/mysql with
IIS? Should I install Apache, and if so, do I need to completely
uninstall IIS?

I have a development edition of Oracle 8i running on the box already.
Will this create conflicts with mysql?  Does mysql run as a service that
I can turn off like Oracle?(in other words, can I turn each on/off
depending which I'm working with? Or are they happy running side by side
on the same box?)

Any advice, or links to useful docs would be appreciated.

Andrew Hazen
Database Developer
Jatech Solutions Inc.
160 Bartley Drive
Toronto, ON
M4A 1E1
www.jatech.ca
416-288-9833





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RE: mysql/php on Win2000

2002-03-25 Thread Alexander, Chris

As far as OS's are concerned, I'm an equal opportunity bigot, I hate them
all.  :)

Using these tools on your home PC running some flavour of Windows will work
fine. That's the way I work, devel on the WinXP box, ftp the files/changes
to my Linux web server. Everything seems to work - excepting the weirdness I
am currently having with Slowaris. I don't recommend a production
environment using Windows though...

Everything will co-exist (I think). I haven't run IIS with Apache at the
same time, although I don't see why they would conflict as long as they are
both not trying to use port 80. I've run Oracle and Mysql at the same time,
works fine if slow (Oracle is a pig on Windoze, er, is a pig).

Everything runs as a service, you can up and down them at will if you
want/need.

HTH

 |  I want to set up my home computer (PIII,Win2000) for development and
 |  testing of php/mysql work.
 |  
 |  I know that both will install and work on a Win2000 box, my 
 |  questions
 |  are about potential conflicts:
 |  
 |  My Win2000 came with IIS, are there any hitches to using 
 |  php/mysql with
 |  IIS? Should I install Apache, and if so, do I need to completely
 |  uninstall IIS?
 |  
 |  I have a development edition of Oracle 8i running on the 
 |  box already.
 |  Will this create conflicts with mysql?  Does mysql run as a 
 |  service that
 |  I can turn off like Oracle?(in other words, can I turn each on/off
 |  depending which I'm working with? Or are they happy running 
 |  side by side
 |  on the same box?)
 |  

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Re: mysql/php on Win2000

2002-03-25 Thread Curtis Maurand


The only problem with Win2K is that a lot of the components for PHP aren't
there.  Also PHP will run as an ISAPI module, but its not recommended.  The
preferred method is as a CGI (read 25% performance hit).  Win2K doesn't
multi-task/multi-thread as well as either of the *nix's mentioned and its
not as efficient with memory utilization/swap as any *nix on or off the
market.  Even OS/2 was better about it than Windoze is.

Also bear in mind that I've never found Windows to be anywhere near as
stable as Unix, though its gotten better.

Curtis

Chris Hedemark said:
>> Any advice, or links to useful docs would be appreciated.
>
> You did say *any* advice.  Keep that in mind...
>
> My advice to you is to load some popular flavor of UNIX on that
> machine, such as Linux or OpenBSD, in order to have a more standard
> environment for this.  Windows may work, but you're going to be very
> lonely finding help for that combination of OS and software.  But on
> the UNIX side you can't throw a rock without hitting someone who is
> effectively running the combination of UNIX/Apache/MySQL/PHP.
>
>
>
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Re: mysql/php on Win2000

2002-03-25 Thread Chris Hedemark

> Any advice, or links to useful docs would be appreciated.

You did say *any* advice.  Keep that in mind...

My advice to you is to load some popular flavor of UNIX on that machine,
such as Linux or OpenBSD, in order to have a more standard environment for
this.  Windows may work, but you're going to be very lonely finding help
for that combination of OS and software.  But on the UNIX side you can't
throw a rock without hitting someone who is effectively running the
combination of UNIX/Apache/MySQL/PHP.




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