Re: Oracle, Sun and MySQL
What I am more concerned about at the moment is how much the uncertainty over the deal is hurting MySQL? I was recently in a project planning meeting where MySQL was dismissed completely because nobody could give guarantees about where MySQL was going. There were a lot of concerns over where future development would go and a fear that when the deal goes through Oracle may slowly raise support and training costs to the sort of levels applicable to Oracle database products. These kind of arguments seem impossible to counter for as long as the uncertainty continues and I for one wish they would just resolve the situation either way very quickly because its hurting my business and open source software! regards John On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 23:50 -0600, Peter Brawley wrote: European regulators agree with Monty that the Oracle-Sun deal threatens database competition. Apparently Oracle means to play hardball. Meanwhile Sun revenue fell 25% in 3rd quarter 2009; who else but an anti-competitive giant would take a chance on buying Sun now? Story here: http://www.economist.com/businessfinance/displayStory.cfm?story_id=14840272; source=features_box1. PB -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql?unsub=arch...@jab.org
Re: Oracle, Sun and MySQL
I believe MySQL will still have great influence in Open Source area. The better is that MySQL will be a separate Company which has no relation to Sun and Oracle. Maybe Oracle can sell MySQL to a 3rd company. 2009/11/11 John Daisley john.dais...@butterflysystems.co.uk What I am more concerned about at the moment is how much the uncertainty over the deal is hurting MySQL? I was recently in a project planning meeting where MySQL was dismissed completely because nobody could give guarantees about where MySQL was going. There were a lot of concerns over where future development would go and a fear that when the deal goes through Oracle may slowly raise support and training costs to the sort of levels applicable to Oracle database products. These kind of arguments seem impossible to counter for as long as the uncertainty continues and I for one wish they would just resolve the situation either way very quickly because its hurting my business and open source software! regards John On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 23:50 -0600, Peter Brawley wrote: European regulators agree with Monty that the Oracle-Sun deal threatens database competition. Apparently Oracle means to play hardball. Meanwhile Sun revenue fell 25% in 3rd quarter 2009; who else but an anti-competitive giant would take a chance on buying Sun now? Story here: http://www.economist.com/businessfinance/displayStory.cfm?story_id=14840272; source=features_box1. PB -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql?unsub=hexi...@gmail.com -- Thanks Best regards, Xiong HE
Re: Oracle, Sun and MySQL
On Nov 11, 2009, at 9:34 AM, John Daisley wrote: On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 23:50 -0600, Peter Brawley wrote: European regulators agree with Monty that the Oracle-Sun deal threatens database competition. Apparently Oracle means to play hardball. Meanwhile Sun revenue fell 25% in 3rd quarter 2009; who else but an anti-competitive giant would take a chance on buying Sun now? Story here: http://www.economist.com/businessfinance/displayStory.cfm?story_id=14840272; source=features_box1. What I am more concerned about at the moment is how much the uncertainty over the deal is hurting MySQL? I was recently in a project planning meeting where MySQL was dismissed completely because nobody could give guarantees about where MySQL was going. There were a lot of concerns over where future development would go and a fear that when the deal goes through Oracle may slowly raise support and training costs to the sort of levels applicable to Oracle database products. These kind of arguments seem impossible to counter for as long as the uncertainty continues and I for one wish they would just resolve the situation either way very quickly because its hurting my business and open source software! Please remember that there are 3rd parties offering MySQL support already now, outside of MySQL AB. I'm pretty sure that should Oracle raise these prices, 3rd parties will take up that part of the market pretty quickly. Liz -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql?unsub=arch...@jab.org
Re: Oracle, Sun and MySQL
On Nov 11, 2009, at 9:34 AM, John Daisley wrote: On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 23:50 -0600, Peter Brawley wrote: European regulators agree with Monty that the Oracle-Sun deal threatens database competition. Apparently Oracle means to play hardball. Meanwhile Sun revenue fell 25% in 3rd quarter 2009; who else but an anti-competitive giant would take a chance on buying Sun now? Story here: http://www.economist.com/businessfinance/displayStory.cfm?story_id=14840272; source=features_box1. What I am more concerned about at the moment is how much the uncertainty over the deal is hurting MySQL? I was recently in a project planning meeting where MySQL was dismissed completely because nobody could give guarantees about where MySQL was going. There were a lot of concerns over where future development would go and a fear that when the deal goes through Oracle may slowly raise support and training costs to the sort of levels applicable to Oracle database products. These kind of arguments seem impossible to counter for as long as the uncertainty continues and I for one wish they would just resolve the situation either way very quickly because its hurting my business and open source software! Please remember that there are 3rd parties offering MySQL support already now, outside of MySQL AB. I'm pretty sure that should Oracle raise these prices, 3rd parties will take up that part of the market pretty quickly. Liz I am aware of this Liz but corporate customers like to see support coming from 'source'. There is also a bit of an unknown with 3rd party support whereas MySQL's own support has a very good reputation and from personal experience I know it to be second to none. Regards John -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/mysql?unsub=arch...@jab.org
Re: Oracle, Sun and MySQL
Martin, What does monty say? Monty made a submission to EU regulators. I can't find the URL just now. One-line summary: Letting Oracle have MySQL is worse than putting the fox in charge of the henhouse... (Florian Mueller, http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10379870-38.html). Other URLs: http://monty-says.blogspot.com/2009/10/press-release-concerning-oraclesun.html http://monty-says.blogspot.com/ http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10379870-38.html PB http://www.artfulsoftware.com - Martin Gainty wrote: tendency to work normal working hours 7am-7pm PST which could be a problem for someone in Europe, Asia or even GMT+5 who needs an immediate answer and cant wait until 7am PST i too would like MySQL to stay OpenSource there is no better a feeling of applying a patch (for your own purposes) without having to wait for the corporate leviathans 6 month cycle to release a minor patch what does monty say? Martin Gainty __ Verzicht und Vertraulichkeitanmerkung/Note de déni et de confidentialité Diese Nachricht ist vertraulich. Sollten Sie nicht der vorgesehene Empfaenger sein, so bitten wir hoeflich um eine Mitteilung. Jede unbefugte Weiterleitung oder Fertigung einer Kopie ist unzulaessig. Diese Nachricht dient lediglich dem Austausch von Informationen und entfaltet keine rechtliche Bindungswirkung. Aufgrund der leichten Manipulierbarkeit von E-Mails koennen wir keine Haftung fuer den Inhalt uebernehmen. Ce message est confidentiel et peut être privilégié. Si vous n'êtes pas le destinataire prévu, nous te demandons avec bonté que pour satisfaire informez l'expéditeur. N'importe quelle diffusion non autorisée ou la copie de ceci est interdite. Ce message sert à l'information seulement et n'aura pas n'importe quel effet légalement obligatoire. Étant donné que les email peuvent facilement être sujets à la manipulation, nous ne pouvons accepter aucune responsabilité pour le contenu fourni. Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:48:28 + Subject: Re: Oracle, Sun and MySQL From: j...@butterflysystems.co.uk To: l...@dijkmat.nl CC: john.dais...@butterflysystems.co.uk; peter.braw...@earthlink.net; mysql@lists.mysql.com On Nov 11, 2009, at 9:34 AM, John Daisley wrote: On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 23:50 -0600, Peter Brawley wrote: European regulators agree with Monty that the Oracle-Sun deal threatens database competition. Apparently Oracle means to play hardball. Meanwhile Sun revenue fell 25% in 3rd quarter 2009; who else but an anti-competitive giant would take a chance on buying Sun now? Story here: http://www.economist.com/businessfinance/displayStory.cfm?story_id=14840272; source=features_box1. What I am more concerned about at the moment is how much the uncertainty over the deal is hurting MySQL? I was recently in a project planning meeting where MySQL was dismissed completely because nobody could give guarantees about where MySQL was going. There were a lot of concerns over where future development would go and a fear that when the deal goes through Oracle may slowly raise support and training costs to the sort of levels applicable to Oracle database products. These kind of arguments seem impossible to counter for as long as the uncertainty continues and I for one wish they would just resolve the situation either way very quickly because its hurting my business and open source software! Please remember that there are 3rd parties offering MySQL support already now, outside of MySQL AB. I'm pretty sure that should Oracle raise these prices, 3rd parties will take up that part of the market pretty quickly. Liz I am aware of this Liz but corporate customers like to see support coming from 'source'. There is also a bit of an unknown with 3rd party support whereas MySQL's own support has a very good reputation and from personal experience I know it to be second to none. Regards John -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql?unsub=mgai...@hotmail.com Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurantsform=MFESRPpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFESRP_Local_MapsMenu_Resturants_1x1 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.60/2496 - Release Date: 11/11/09 07:40:00
Oracle, Sun and MySQL
European regulators agree with Monty that the Oracle-Sun deal threatens database competition. Apparently Oracle means to play hardball. Meanwhile Sun revenue fell 25% in 3rd quarter 2009; who else but an anti-competitive giant would take a chance on buying Sun now? Story here: http://www.economist.com/businessfinance/displayStory.cfm?story_id=14840272; source=features_box1. PB
Sun and mysql
I am still amazed by the fact that youtube is worth 1.5 billion and MySQL AB barely 1 billion. Did they sell under price? Or does Google just have way to much many to spend/waste? Greetings from the just wondering... Olaf - Confidentiality Notice: The following mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. The recipient is responsible to maintain the confidentiality of this information and to use the information only for authorized purposes. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), you are hereby notified that any review, use, disclosure, distribution, copying, printing, or action taken in reliance on the contents of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Thank you. -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sun and mysql
[snip] I am still amazed by the fact that youtube is worth 1.5 billion and MySQL AB barely 1 billion. Did they sell under price? Or does Google just have way to much many to spend/waste? [/snip] Or that Facebook is 'worth' multiple billions when they do not really have a way to make money yet. -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sun and mysql
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:07:19 -0500 Olaf Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am still amazed by the fact that youtube is worth 1.5 billion and MySQL AB barely 1 billion. Did they sell under price? Or does Google just have way to much many to spend/waste? On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 10:14:36 -0600 Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or that Facebook is 'worth' multiple billions when they do not really have a way to make money yet. Uh, you both have to be kidding comparing MySQL with Youtube and Facebook, right? I'm not saying the $1 billion for MySQL was the right price, I believe it was a bargain for Sun but you are comparing apples and oranges. Go out on the street and ask people if they ever heard of these three. I bet you a few people will know MySQL, a lot will know Facebook and everybody will know Youtube. Youtube and Facebook are websites, visited by millions of people every day. That's what makes it it's value, future and present advertisements. YouTube was even used by CNN for the Republican and Democratic debates. Did you ever hear of MySQL on TV, anywhere? -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sun and mysql
Olaf Stein wrote: I am not judging this move by mysql, as long as it stays open source, this is probably good for the product itself. I just think it is weird that a pure entertainment website (admittedly with lots of users) is estimated at so much more than a software company. Two words: Marketing Potential. :) -- Mark Leith, Manager of Support, Americas MySQL AB, www.mysql.com Are you MySQL certified? www.mysql.com/certification -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sun and mysql
I am not judging this move by mysql, as long as it stays open source, this is probably good for the product itself. I just think it is weird that a pure entertainment website (admittedly with lots of users) is estimated at so much more than a software company. Olaf On 1/17/08 12:10 PM, Barry Newton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Olaf Stein wrote: I am still amazed by the fact that youtube is worth 1.5 billion and MySQL AB barely 1 billion. Did they sell under price? Or does Google just have way to much many to spend/waste? Greetings from the just wondering... Olaf MySQL A.B., so far as I know, derives income from training, pubs sales, and enterprise support, with expense for salaries, space leases (at least some staff work from home), and equipment. The value of such an organization is inevitably based on somebody's best guess about future revenues. I'm encouraged about the prospects of MySQL when I remember that Sun is a major sponsor of open source application software. - Confidentiality Notice: The following mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. The recipient is responsible to maintain the confidentiality of this information and to use the information only for authorized purposes. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), you are hereby notified that any review, use, disclosure, distribution, copying, printing, or action taken in reliance on the contents of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Thank you. -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sun and mysql
Olaf Stein wrote: I am still amazed by the fact that youtube is worth 1.5 billion and MySQL AB barely 1 billion. Did they sell under price? Or does Google just have way to much many to spend/waste? Greetings from the just wondering... Olaf MySQL A.B., so far as I know, derives income from training, pubs sales, and enterprise support, with expense for salaries, space leases (at least some staff work from home), and equipment. The value of such an Don't forget licensing MySQL. organization is inevitably based on somebody's best guess about future revenues. I'm encouraged about the prospects of MySQL when I remember that Sun is a major sponsor of open source application software. Martijn Tonies Database Workbench - tool for InterBase, Firebird, MySQL, NexusDB, Oracle MS SQL Server Upscene Productions http://www.upscene.com My thoughts: http://blog.upscene.com/martijn/ Database development questions? Check the forum! http://www.databasedevelopmentforum.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
valuation tangent (was Re: Sun and mysql)
Olaf Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It will be interesting to see if facebook, youtube and alike websites will ever generate enough earnings to cover the costs they were bought for. Just because 50 million people know a website, it does not mean it makes money automatically. The Google model shows that if you can get huge numbers of people to visit your web site(s) *repeatedly*, and target advertising well, you can make gigantic gobs of money. Facebook in particular clearly has the first part down: they've got millions of members who visit the site several times a day every day (and millions more who visit several times a week). I think some of their ways of targeting ads may work out, and their potential for revenue is far more than MySQL's. YouTube... got folded into the existing Google. Google's just trying to make sure every single one of us visits their sites multiple times every single time we get online :) nuts. Maybe I am too old with 30, but I have never even been to facebook. I think that puts you near the current median age on Facebook. The net moves fast! Facebook as a site mainly for 20-somethings is so 2006 :) -- Cos -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sun and mysql
You have a point. But, facebook makes NO money at this time, has about 400 employees and Microsoft estimates its values at 15 billion dollars. I simply think this is nuts. Maybe I am too old with 30, but I have never even been to facebook. It will be interesting to see if facebook, youtube and alike websites will ever generate enough earnings to cover the costs they were bought for. Just because 50 million people know a website, it does not mean it makes money automatically. Olaf On 1/17/08 11:37 AM, Peter (MySQL List) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:07:19 -0500 Olaf Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am still amazed by the fact that youtube is worth 1.5 billion and MySQL AB barely 1 billion. Did they sell under price? Or does Google just have way to much many to spend/waste? On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 10:14:36 -0600 Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or that Facebook is 'worth' multiple billions when they do not really have a way to make money yet. Uh, you both have to be kidding comparing MySQL with Youtube and Facebook, right? I'm not saying the $1 billion for MySQL was the right price, I believe it was a bargain for Sun but you are comparing apples and oranges. Go out on the street and ask people if they ever heard of these three. I bet you a few people will know MySQL, a lot will know Facebook and everybody will know Youtube. Youtube and Facebook are websites, visited by millions of people every day. That's what makes it it's value, future and present advertisements. YouTube was even used by CNN for the Republican and Democratic debates. Did you ever hear of MySQL on TV, anywhere? - Confidentiality Notice: The following mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. The recipient is responsible to maintain the confidentiality of this information and to use the information only for authorized purposes. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), you are hereby notified that any review, use, disclosure, distribution, copying, printing, or action taken in reliance on the contents of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Thank you. -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sun and mysql
Olaf Stein wrote: I am still amazed by the fact that youtube is worth 1.5 billion and MySQL AB barely 1 billion. Did they sell under price? Or does Google just have way to much many to spend/waste? Greetings from the just wondering... Olaf MySQL A.B., so far as I know, derives income from training, pubs sales, and enterprise support, with expense for salaries, space leases (at least some staff work from home), and equipment. The value of such an organization is inevitably based on somebody's best guess about future revenues. I'm encouraged about the prospects of MySQL when I remember that Sun is a major sponsor of open source application software. -- Barry -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sun and mysql
I am not judging this move by mysql, as long as it stays open source, this is probably good for the product itself. I just think it is weird that a pure entertainment website (admittedly with lots of users) is estimated at so much more than a software company. Much bigger market :-) Ability to hype something? Martijn Tonies Database Workbench - tool for InterBase, Firebird, MySQL, NexusDB, Oracle MS SQL Server Upscene Productions http://www.upscene.com My thoughts: http://blog.upscene.com/martijn/ Database development questions? Check the forum! http://www.databasedevelopmentforum.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sun and mysql
I understand the marketing and hype thing. I still have a hard time believing that the net worth is actually that high. I guess we will see in 10 years or so... Maybe facebook should by GM, Ford can use some of that hype On 1/17/08 12:19 PM, Mark Leith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Olaf Stein wrote: I am not judging this move by mysql, as long as it stays open source, this is probably good for the product itself. I just think it is weird that a pure entertainment website (admittedly with lots of users) is estimated at so much more than a software company. Two words: Marketing Potential. :) - Confidentiality Notice: The following mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. The recipient is responsible to maintain the confidentiality of this information and to use the information only for authorized purposes. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), you are hereby notified that any review, use, disclosure, distribution, copying, printing, or action taken in reliance on the contents of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Thank you. -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sun and mysql - sorry
I guess Ford is not a GM brand. Just substitute Ford with a GM brand On 1/17/08 12:23 PM, Olaf Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand the marketing and hype thing. I still have a hard time believing that the net worth is actually that high. I guess we will see in 10 years or so... Maybe facebook should by GM, Ford can use some of that hype On 1/17/08 12:19 PM, Mark Leith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Olaf Stein wrote: I am not judging this move by mysql, as long as it stays open source, this is probably good for the product itself. I just think it is weird that a pure entertainment website (admittedly with lots of users) is estimated at so much more than a software company. Two words: Marketing Potential. :) - Confidentiality Notice: The following mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. The recipient is responsible to maintain the confidentiality of this information and to use the information only for authorized purposes. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), you are hereby notified that any review, use, disclosure, distribution, copying, printing, or action taken in reliance on the contents of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Thank you. -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [SPAM] - Re: Sun and mysql - Email found in subject
-Original Message- From: Olaf Stein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 12:13 PM To: Peter (MySQL List); MySql Subject: [SPAM] - Re: Sun and mysql - Email found in subject You have a point. But, facebook makes NO money at this time, has about 400 employees and Microsoft estimates its values at 15 billion dollars. I simply think this is nuts. Maybe I am too old with 30, but I have never even been to facebook. It will be interesting to see if facebook, youtube and alike websites will ever generate enough earnings to cover the costs they were bought for. With a perfect business plan I bet it will. Just because 50 million people know a website, it does not mean it makes money automatically. Yes, I agree but once this 50 million visits the website and it would be a different story. Olaf On 1/17/08 11:37 AM, Peter (MySQL List) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:07:19 -0500 Olaf Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am still amazed by the fact that youtube is worth 1.5 billion and MySQL AB barely 1 billion. Did they sell under price? Or does Google just have way to much many to spend/waste? On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 10:14:36 -0600 Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or that Facebook is 'worth' multiple billions when they do not really have a way to make money yet. Uh, you both have to be kidding comparing MySQL with Youtube and Facebook, right? I'm not saying the $1 billion for MySQL was the right price, I believe it was a bargain for Sun but you are comparing apples and oranges. Go out on the street and ask people if they ever heard of these three. I bet you a few people will know MySQL, a lot will know Facebook and everybody will know Youtube. Youtube and Facebook are websites, visited by millions of people every day. That's what makes it it's value, future and present advertisements. YouTube was even used by CNN for the Republican and Democratic debates. Did you ever hear of MySQL on TV, anywhere? - Confidentiality Notice: The following mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. The recipient is responsible to maintain the confidentiality of this information and to use the information only for authorized purposes. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), you are hereby notified that any review, use, disclosure, distribution, copying, printing, or action taken in reliance on the contents of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Thank you. -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. It may contain sensitive and private proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. FXDirectDealer, LLC reserves the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorized to state them. Unless otherwise stated, any pricing information given in this message is indicative only, is subject to change and does not constitute an offer to deal at any price quoted. Any reference to the terms of executed transactions should be treated as preliminary only and subject to our formal confirmation. FXDirectDealer, LLC is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http
Sun and MySQL
Hello: Does this mean that MySQL is headed for closed source? re: Sun buys MySQL. And does it mean that someone may be wanting back licensing fees? Just curious, and too lazy to chase down links and stories. Jeff K -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
