Using RAND to get a unique ID that has not been used yet

2010-05-28 Thread Andre Matos
Hi All,

I have a table that uses auto_increment to generate the Id automatically 
working fine. However, I need to create a new table where the Id must be a 
number generated randomly, so I cannot use the auto_increment. 

MySQL has a function RAND. So I could use something like this:

SELECT FLOOR(RAND() * COUNT(*)) AS RandId FROM mytable

But, let's suppose that the RandId is a number that was already used in the 
table. Then I need to run the SELECT again and again until I find a number that 
hasn't been used.

Is there a way to have this SELECT to loop until it finds a number that hasn't 
been used?

The RandId must be only numbers and length of 6 (from 1 to 99). No other 
character is allowed.

Thanks for any help!

Andre

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Re: Using RAND to get a unique ID that has not been used yet

2010-05-28 Thread Jim Lyons
If your specs are that specific (IDs must be between 1 and 99)
then you could create a 99-row table with one integer column and
prefill it with the numbers 1 to 99 in random order.

Then you could write a function that would select and return the first
number in the table, then delete that record so you would not reuse
it.

Once you've done the work of sorting 99 numbers in random order
(which can be done anywhich way) it's easy and you don't have to loop
an indeterminant number of times.  You would be looping an increasing
number of times as you begin to fill up the table.

Jim

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Andre Matos andrema...@mineirinho.org wrote:
 Hi All,

 I have a table that uses auto_increment to generate the Id automatically 
 working fine. However, I need to create a new table where the Id must be a 
 number generated randomly, so I cannot use the auto_increment.

 MySQL has a function RAND. So I could use something like this:

 SELECT FLOOR(RAND() * COUNT(*)) AS RandId FROM mytable

 But, let's suppose that the RandId is a number that was already used in the 
 table. Then I need to run the SELECT again and again until I find a number 
 that hasn't been used.

 Is there a way to have this SELECT to loop until it finds a number that 
 hasn't been used?

 The RandId must be only numbers and length of 6 (from 1 to 99). No other 
 character is allowed.

 Thanks for any help!

 Andre

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RE: Using RAND to get a unique ID that has not been used yet

2010-05-28 Thread Steven Staples
If you wanted to use/go that route, then why not select a random limit 1
from that table, and then delete that row?

SELECT `column` FROM `table` ORDER BY RAND() LIMIT 1;


On a side note, I would use the auto-inc field still, and store this number
in another field.

Steven Staples



 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Lyons [mailto:jlyons4...@gmail.com]
 Sent: May 28, 2010 11:49 AM
 To: Andre Matos
 Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com
 Subject: Re: Using RAND to get a unique ID that has not been used yet
 
 If your specs are that specific (IDs must be between 1 and 99)
 then you could create a 99-row table with one integer column and
 prefill it with the numbers 1 to 99 in random order.
 
 Then you could write a function that would select and return the first
 number in the table, then delete that record so you would not reuse
 it.
 
 Once you've done the work of sorting 99 numbers in random order
 (which can be done anywhich way) it's easy and you don't have to loop
 an indeterminant number of times.  You would be looping an increasing
 number of times as you begin to fill up the table.
 
 Jim
 
 On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Andre Matos andrema...@mineirinho.org
 wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  I have a table that uses auto_increment to generate the Id automatically
 working fine. However, I need to create a new table where the Id must be a
 number generated randomly, so I cannot use the auto_increment.
 
  MySQL has a function RAND. So I could use something like this:
 
  SELECT FLOOR(RAND() * COUNT(*)) AS RandId FROM mytable
 
  But, let's suppose that the RandId is a number that was already used in
 the table. Then I need to run the SELECT again and again until I find a
 number that hasn't been used.
 
  Is there a way to have this SELECT to loop until it finds a number that
 hasn't been used?
 
  The RandId must be only numbers and length of 6 (from 1 to 99). No
 other character is allowed.
 
  Thanks for any help!
 
  Andre
 
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Re: Using RAND to get a unique ID that has not been used yet

2010-05-28 Thread Andre Matos
It seems to be a good approach, although I was trying to get this by querying 
the table without creating another table to keep the Ids.

Thanks,

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On 2010-05-28, at 12:15 PM, Steven Staples wrote:

 If you wanted to use/go that route, then why not select a random limit 1
 from that table, and then delete that row?
 
 SELECT `column` FROM `table` ORDER BY RAND() LIMIT 1;
 
 
 On a side note, I would use the auto-inc field still, and store this number
 in another field.
 
 Steven Staples
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Lyons [mailto:jlyons4...@gmail.com]
 Sent: May 28, 2010 11:49 AM
 To: Andre Matos
 Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com
 Subject: Re: Using RAND to get a unique ID that has not been used yet
 
 If your specs are that specific (IDs must be between 1 and 99)
 then you could create a 99-row table with one integer column and
 prefill it with the numbers 1 to 99 in random order.
 
 Then you could write a function that would select and return the first
 number in the table, then delete that record so you would not reuse
 it.
 
 Once you've done the work of sorting 99 numbers in random order
 (which can be done anywhich way) it's easy and you don't have to loop
 an indeterminant number of times.  You would be looping an increasing
 number of times as you begin to fill up the table.
 
 Jim
 
 On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Andre Matos andrema...@mineirinho.org
 wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I have a table that uses auto_increment to generate the Id automatically
 working fine. However, I need to create a new table where the Id must be a
 number generated randomly, so I cannot use the auto_increment.
 
 MySQL has a function RAND. So I could use something like this:
 
 SELECT FLOOR(RAND() * COUNT(*)) AS RandId FROM mytable
 
 But, let's suppose that the RandId is a number that was already used in
 the table. Then I need to run the SELECT again and again until I find a
 number that hasn't been used.
 
 Is there a way to have this SELECT to loop until it finds a number that
 hasn't been used?
 
 The RandId must be only numbers and length of 6 (from 1 to 99). No
 other character is allowed.
 
 Thanks for any help!
 
 Andre
 
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RE: Using RAND to get a unique ID that has not been used yet

2010-05-28 Thread Jerry Schwartz
-Original Message-
From: Jim Lyons [mailto:jlyons4...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 11:49 AM
To: Andre Matos
Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com
Subject: Re: Using RAND to get a unique ID that has not been used yet

If your specs are that specific (IDs must be between 1 and 99)
then you could create a 99-row table with one integer column and
prefill it with the numbers 1 to 99 in random order.

Then you could write a function that would select and return the first
number in the table, then delete that record so you would not reuse
it.

Once you've done the work of sorting 99 numbers in random order
(which can be done anywhich way) it's easy and you don't have to loop
an indeterminant number of times.  You would be looping an increasing
number of times as you begin to fill up the table.

[JS] You don't have to go to the trouble of sorting the number table in any 
order, random or anything else. Just select a random record from that table. 
Since you'll have the number of that record, you can delete it.

Regards,

Jerry Schwartz
Global Information Incorporated
195 Farmington Ave.
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RE: Using RAND to get a unique ID that has not been used yet

2010-05-28 Thread Jerry Schwartz

-Original Message-
From: Andre Matos [mailto:andrema...@mineirinho.org]
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 1:44 PM
To: Steven Staples
Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com
Subject: Re: Using RAND to get a unique ID that has not been used yet

It seems to be a good approach, although I was trying to get this by querying
the table without creating another table to keep the Ids.

[JS] That would be a VERY bad idea. My predecessor designed our system that 
way: it would generate a random key, check to see if that key were in use, and 
either use it or try again.

As you would expect, the whole process get slower and slower as we ran out 
of unique keys. Eventually the whole application became unusable.

Regards,

Jerry Schwartz
Global Information Incorporated
195 Farmington Ave.
Farmington, CT 06032

860.674.8796 / FAX: 860.674.8341

www.the-infoshop.com




Thanks,

Andre

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On 2010-05-28, at 12:15 PM, Steven Staples wrote:

 If you wanted to use/go that route, then why not select a random limit 1
 from that table, and then delete that row?

 SELECT `column` FROM `table` ORDER BY RAND() LIMIT 1;


 On a side note, I would use the auto-inc field still, and store this number
 in another field.

 Steven Staples



 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Lyons [mailto:jlyons4...@gmail.com]
 Sent: May 28, 2010 11:49 AM
 To: Andre Matos
 Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com
 Subject: Re: Using RAND to get a unique ID that has not been used yet

 If your specs are that specific (IDs must be between 1 and 99)
 then you could create a 99-row table with one integer column and
 prefill it with the numbers 1 to 99 in random order.

 Then you could write a function that would select and return the first
 number in the table, then delete that record so you would not reuse
 it.

 Once you've done the work of sorting 99 numbers in random order
 (which can be done anywhich way) it's easy and you don't have to loop
 an indeterminant number of times.  You would be looping an increasing
 number of times as you begin to fill up the table.

 Jim

 On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Andre Matos andrema...@mineirinho.org
 wrote:
 Hi All,

 I have a table that uses auto_increment to generate the Id automatically
 working fine. However, I need to create a new table where the Id must be a
 number generated randomly, so I cannot use the auto_increment.

 MySQL has a function RAND. So I could use something like this:

 SELECT FLOOR(RAND() * COUNT(*)) AS RandId FROM mytable

 But, let's suppose that the RandId is a number that was already used in
 the table. Then I need to run the SELECT again and again until I find a
 number that hasn't been used.

 Is there a way to have this SELECT to loop until it finds a number that
 hasn't been used?

 The RandId must be only numbers and length of 6 (from 1 to 99). No
 other character is allowed.

 Thanks for any help!

 Andre

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Re: Using RAND to get a unique ID that has not been used yet

2010-05-28 Thread Andre Matos
When I mentioned having everything in the Query, I was thinking about this. I 
don't want to have a loop repeating the query until I get a unique Id. This is 
ridicules and imagine how many queries I might end up running. No way!

Thanks for the warning and feedback!

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On 2010-05-28, at 1:51 PM, Jerry Schwartz wrote:

 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andre Matos [mailto:andrema...@mineirinho.org]
 Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 1:44 PM
 To: Steven Staples
 Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com
 Subject: Re: Using RAND to get a unique ID that has not been used yet
 
 It seems to be a good approach, although I was trying to get this by querying
 the table without creating another table to keep the Ids.
 
 [JS] That would be a VERY bad idea. My predecessor designed our system that 
 way: it would generate a random key, check to see if that key were in use, 
 and 
 either use it or try again.
 
 As you would expect, the whole process get slower and slower as we ran out 
 of unique keys. Eventually the whole application became unusable.
 
 Regards,
 
 Jerry Schwartz
 Global Information Incorporated
 195 Farmington Ave.
 Farmington, CT 06032
 
 860.674.8796 / FAX: 860.674.8341
 
 www.the-infoshop.com
 
 
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Andre
 
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 On 2010-05-28, at 12:15 PM, Steven Staples wrote:
 
 If you wanted to use/go that route, then why not select a random limit 1
 from that table, and then delete that row?
 
 SELECT `column` FROM `table` ORDER BY RAND() LIMIT 1;
 
 
 On a side note, I would use the auto-inc field still, and store this number
 in another field.
 
 Steven Staples
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Lyons [mailto:jlyons4...@gmail.com]
 Sent: May 28, 2010 11:49 AM
 To: Andre Matos
 Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com
 Subject: Re: Using RAND to get a unique ID that has not been used yet
 
 If your specs are that specific (IDs must be between 1 and 99)
 then you could create a 99-row table with one integer column and
 prefill it with the numbers 1 to 99 in random order.
 
 Then you could write a function that would select and return the first
 number in the table, then delete that record so you would not reuse
 it.
 
 Once you've done the work of sorting 99 numbers in random order
 (which can be done anywhich way) it's easy and you don't have to loop
 an indeterminant number of times.  You would be looping an increasing
 number of times as you begin to fill up the table.
 
 Jim
 
 On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Andre Matos andrema...@mineirinho.org
 wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I have a table that uses auto_increment to generate the Id automatically
 working fine. However, I need to create a new table where the Id must be a
 number generated randomly, so I cannot use the auto_increment.
 
 MySQL has a function RAND. So I could use something like this:
 
 SELECT FLOOR(RAND() * COUNT(*)) AS RandId FROM mytable
 
 But, let's suppose that the RandId is a number that was already used in
 the table. Then I need to run the SELECT again and again until I find a
 number that hasn't been used.
 
 Is there a way to have this SELECT to loop until it finds a number that
 hasn't been used?
 
 The RandId must be only numbers and length of 6 (from 1 to 99). No
 other character is allowed.
 
 Thanks for any help!
 
 Andre
 
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Re: Using RAND to get a unique ID that has not been used yet

2010-05-28 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Andre Matos andrema...@mineirinho.org wrote:
 I have a table that uses auto_increment to generate the Id automatically 
 working fine.
 However, I need to create a new table where the Id must be a number generated
 randomly, so I cannot use the auto_increment.

You'd be better off using UUID in my opinion.

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Re: Using RAND to get a unique ID that has not been used yet

2010-05-28 Thread Kevin (Gmail)
The separate table for the IDs is probably best solution, maybe counting on 
caching of the table with an index on the id value to speed up the 'where' 
clause; this checks what numbers are left instead of what numbers have been 
used; the disadvantage is that you have to manage a second table with a 
million rows!
You could generate a memory table when you open the session, populate it 
with all possible values and then delete all already assigned values.
You would have to do this only once and then all possible unused values 
would be available.
It shouldn't get slower with time (in fact it might speed up as the used 
rows are progressively deleted).
It has the advantage that the random function is called only once: whereas 
using a single table requires looping until a unique random value is found, 
and as the table fills this will get really slow.


- Original Message - 
From: Jerry Schwartz je...@gii.co.jp
To: 'Andre Matos' andrema...@mineirinho.org; 'Steven Staples' 
sstap...@mnsi.net

Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 6:51 PM
Subject: RE: Using RAND to get a unique ID that has not been used yet





-Original Message-
From: Andre Matos [mailto:andrema...@mineirinho.org]
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 1:44 PM
To: Steven Staples
Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com
Subject: Re: Using RAND to get a unique ID that has not been used yet

It seems to be a good approach, although I was trying to get this by 
querying

the table without creating another table to keep the Ids.

[JS] That would be a VERY bad idea. My predecessor designed our system 
that
way: it would generate a random key, check to see if that key were in use, 
and

either use it or try again.

As you would expect, the whole process get slower and slower as we ran 
out

of unique keys. Eventually the whole application became unusable.

Regards,

Jerry Schwartz
Global Information Incorporated
195 Farmington Ave.
Farmington, CT 06032

860.674.8796 / FAX: 860.674.8341

www.the-infoshop.com





Thanks,

Andre

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On 2010-05-28, at 12:15 PM, Steven Staples wrote:


If you wanted to use/go that route, then why not select a random limit 1
from that table, and then delete that row?

SELECT `column` FROM `table` ORDER BY RAND() LIMIT 1;


On a side note, I would use the auto-inc field still, and store this 
number

in another field.

Steven Staples




-Original Message-
From: Jim Lyons [mailto:jlyons4...@gmail.com]
Sent: May 28, 2010 11:49 AM
To: Andre Matos
Cc: mysql@lists.mysql.com
Subject: Re: Using RAND to get a unique ID that has not been used yet

If your specs are that specific (IDs must be between 1 and 99)
then you could create a 99-row table with one integer column and
prefill it with the numbers 1 to 99 in random order.

Then you could write a function that would select and return the first
number in the table, then delete that record so you would not reuse
it.

Once you've done the work of sorting 99 numbers in random order
(which can be done anywhich way) it's easy and you don't have to loop
an indeterminant number of times.  You would be looping an increasing
number of times as you begin to fill up the table.

Jim

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Andre Matos 
andrema...@mineirinho.org

wrote:

Hi All,

I have a table that uses auto_increment to generate the Id 
automatically
working fine. However, I need to create a new table where the Id must 
be a

number generated randomly, so I cannot use the auto_increment.


MySQL has a function RAND. So I could use something like this:

SELECT FLOOR(RAND() * COUNT(*)) AS RandId FROM mytable

But, let's suppose that the RandId is a number that was already used 
in

the table. Then I need to run the SELECT again and again until I find a
number that hasn't been used.


Is there a way to have this SELECT to loop until it finds a number 
that

hasn't been used?


The RandId must be only numbers and length of 6 (from 1 to 99). No

other character is allowed.


Thanks for any help!

Andre

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Using RAND()

2002-05-07 Thread Cummings, Shawn (GNAPs)



The RAND() syntax does not appear to be working for me.

What version mySQL is required?


At 04:43 PM 1/29/2002 +0200, Michael Widenius wrote:

Hi!

  Ulf == Ulf Harnhammar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Ulf On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, Michael Widenius wrote:
  One way to do this is to do as follows:
  SELECT something FROM sometable WHERE somevar=somevalue ORDER BY
  RAND() LIMIT 10


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RE: Using RAND()

2002-05-07 Thread Gurhan Ozen

You have to have MySQL 3.23 or greater..

http://www.mysql.com/doc/M/a/Mathematical_functions.html

Gurhan

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The RAND() syntax does not appear to be working for me.

What version mySQL is required?


At 04:43 PM 1/29/2002 +0200, Michael Widenius wrote:

Hi!

  Ulf == Ulf Harnhammar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Ulf On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, Michael Widenius wrote:
  One way to do this is to do as follows:
  SELECT something FROM sometable WHERE somevar=somevalue ORDER BY
  RAND() LIMIT 10


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Re: Using RAND()

2002-05-07 Thread webmaster

Hi

When I used the RAND() function (MySQL 3.23.45) I found the results were not
very random, instead I use an extra bit of php code to make sure the results
are more random.

mt_srand((double)microtime()*100);
$sql = select  order by RAND(.mt_rand(0,32767).) limit 50
$rs = mysql_query($sql);
$num=mysql_num_rows($rs);
if($num1) mysql_data_seek($rs,mt_rand(0,$num-1));
$row=mysql_fetch_array($rs);

To get a random record from earlier versions of MySQL you could do something
like this.

mt_srand((double)microtime()*100);
$sql = select... ..where  limit 0,50
$rs = mysql_query($sql);
$num=mysql_num_rows($rs);
if($num1) mysql_data_seek($rs,mt_rand(0,$num-1));
$row=mysql_fetch_array($rs);

if you have a lot of records you can always put random numbers in the limit
clause,  (select ... where ...limit  random_number, random_number + 50) this
will return a random block of records, then use the seek functions to
randomly pick a record from the record block, just make sure random_number
isn't greater than the total records in your recordset.


Pete Kelly


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From: Gurhan Ozen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Cummings, Shawn (GNAPs) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 5:11 PM
Subject: RE: Using RAND()


 You have to have MySQL 3.23 or greater..

 http://www.mysql.com/doc/M/a/Mathematical_functions.html

 Gurhan

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 From: Cummings, Shawn (GNAPs) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 11:33 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ulf Harnhammar
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 Subject: Using RAND()




 The RAND() syntax does not appear to be working for me.

 What version mySQL is required?


 At 04:43 PM 1/29/2002 +0200, Michael Widenius wrote:

 Hi!
 
   Ulf == Ulf Harnhammar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Ulf On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, Michael Widenius wrote:
   One way to do this is to do as follows:
   SELECT something FROM sometable WHERE somevar=somevalue ORDER BY
   RAND() LIMIT 10


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Re: Using RAND()

2002-05-07 Thread Paul DuBois

At 11:32 -0400 5/7/02, Cummings, Shawn (GNAPs) wrote:
The RAND() syntax does not appear to be working for me.

What version mySQL is required?

3.23.2.  Prior to that, use

SELECT something, any_col*0+RAND() AS r FROM sometable
WHERE ... ORDER BY r LIMIT 10



At 04:43 PM 1/29/2002 +0200, Michael Widenius wrote:

Hi!

  Ulf == Ulf Harnhammar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Ulf On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, Michael Widenius wrote:
  One way to do this is to do as follows:
  SELECT something FROM sometable WHERE somevar=somevalue ORDER BY
   RAND() LIMIT 10


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RE: Using RAND()

2002-05-07 Thread Gurhan Ozen

Quoted from the manual page I have given below is:

RAND() is not meant to be a perfect random generator, but instead a fast
way to generate ad hoc random numbers that will be portable between
platforms for the same MySQL version.

So it was intentionally built so...

Gurhan


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Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 12:55 PM
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Subject: Re: Using RAND()


Hi

When I used the RAND() function (MySQL 3.23.45) I found the results were not
very random, instead I use an extra bit of php code to make sure the results
are more random.

mt_srand((double)microtime()*100);
$sql = select  order by RAND(.mt_rand(0,32767).) limit 50
$rs = mysql_query($sql);
$num=mysql_num_rows($rs);
if($num1) mysql_data_seek($rs,mt_rand(0,$num-1));
$row=mysql_fetch_array($rs);

To get a random record from earlier versions of MySQL you could do something
like this.

mt_srand((double)microtime()*100);
$sql = select... ..where  limit 0,50
$rs = mysql_query($sql);
$num=mysql_num_rows($rs);
if($num1) mysql_data_seek($rs,mt_rand(0,$num-1));
$row=mysql_fetch_array($rs);

if you have a lot of records you can always put random numbers in the limit
clause,  (select ... where ...limit  random_number, random_number + 50) this
will return a random block of records, then use the seek functions to
randomly pick a record from the record block, just make sure random_number
isn't greater than the total records in your recordset.


Pete Kelly


- Original Message -
From: Gurhan Ozen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Cummings, Shawn (GNAPs) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 5:11 PM
Subject: RE: Using RAND()


 You have to have MySQL 3.23 or greater..

 http://www.mysql.com/doc/M/a/Mathematical_functions.html

 Gurhan

 -Original Message-
 From: Cummings, Shawn (GNAPs) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 11:33 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ulf Harnhammar
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Using RAND()




 The RAND() syntax does not appear to be working for me.

 What version mySQL is required?


 At 04:43 PM 1/29/2002 +0200, Michael Widenius wrote:

 Hi!
 
   Ulf == Ulf Harnhammar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Ulf On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, Michael Widenius wrote:
   One way to do this is to do as follows:
   SELECT something FROM sometable WHERE somevar=somevalue ORDER BY
   RAND() LIMIT 10


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