Re: [mythtv-users] SVN mythtranscode

[Chris Pinkham]

> > compression or is it mpeg2 -> mpeg2 lossless only now. I ask as using the
> > -m switch (which should turn ON lossless) creates a file the same size as
> > without it. I'd expect a larger file with it.
> 
> Not an answer but another question, I'm afraid. From what you say am I
> right in thinking that the mythtranscode planned for 0.19 allows you
> to transcode large MPEG2 --> small MPEG2? That would be great as
> 0.18.1 doesn't let you do that.

Haven't seen anyone reply to this yet so I will.  Notice he said 'lossless'.
The MPEG2->MPEG2 transcoding in SVN is for cutting only, it does not
re-encode the frames (except around the cutpoints I believe).  So, the
space savings from using it are because you get to cut out those 20 minutes
of commercials out of every hour of show and if you're using TS files,
you may save space since the output format is PS.

-- 
Chris

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Re: [mythtv-users] Australian DVB-T resolution

[Phill Edwards]

> The output you're trying to get comes from the tzap command when you are
> creating a channels.conf.

Are you sure? When I run tzap like this:
#  tzap "ABC HDTV"

I get output like this:
using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
tuning to 22650 Hz
video pid 0x090a, audio pid 0x
status 1f | signal 2d4b | snr  | ber  | unc  | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal 2d4b | snr d1d1 | ber  | unc  | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal 2d4b | snr cfcf | ber  | unc  | FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal 2d4b | snr cfcf | ber  | unc  | FE_HAS_LOCK
...

So I still can't get the output that Eyal had in that earlier post -
but I'd really like to know how to do it.

Regards,
Phill
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Re: [mythtv-users] Revised MythTV Subversion ebuilds for Gentoo available

[W.Kenworthy]

On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 22:51 -0800, Scott Alfter wrote:
> Drew Tomlinson wrote:
> > On 1/11/2006 5:44 PM Scott Alfter wrote:
...
> I've not done much experimentation with it, but I'm currently using revision 
> 8444.  Whether that's really better or worse than other recent activity, I 
> couldn't say.  So far, it seems to be working OK.  8456 adds the ability to 
> schedule custom recordings through MythWeb; since that's something I recently 
> said would be a good idea, I should probably give that (or a later revision) 
> a 
> shot sometime.
> 

Is there a version that is generally accepted as functional with nothing
major broken?  i.e., I remember seeing some emails about the SVN live TV
being broken some weeks back.

BillK

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[mythtv-users] xv and dual display

[Marius Schrecker]

Hi, just read the last post about someone having trouble with xv and
multiple displays. Unfortunately I hit delete instead of reply, so please
excuse this new thread.

Just thought I'd mention that I have seen a workaround for this, allowing
xv to be switched easily between outputs. If you google a bit on "xv dual
display" or similar you'll probably find it. If not, post back and I'll
scratch my head a little more and try to find out where I've been in the
past month.

Cheers

Marius
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[mythtv-users] xv and dual display

[Marius Schrecker]

Hi, just read the last post about someone having trouble with xv and
multiple displays. Unfortunately I hit delete instead of reply, so please
excuse this new thread.

Just thought I'd mention that I have seen a workaround for this, allowing
xv to be switched easily between outputs. If you google a bit on "xv dual
display" or similar you'll probably find it. If not, post back and I'll
scratch my head a little more and try to find out where I've been in the
past month.

Cheers

Marius
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Re: [mythtv-users] Recordings filling disk, not showing up in list

[Tom E. Craddock Jr.]

Daniel Rischar wrote:
> For some reason, my recordings directory seems to to fill up my disk.  I 
> emptied the folder but a few minutes late, it started to fill again.   
> None of the files show up under recordings, and I have not been 
> recording anything so the folder should be empty.  I cannot figure out 
> where the files are coming from, or why they are not being deleted 
> automatically by mythtv.  Might somebody be able to shed some light on 
> this?
> 
> It adds a new one everytime I change the channel, and the longer I leave 
> it there the larger the file gets.  It is as if mythtv is always 
> recording, but never adds anything to the database.  This is becoming a 
> major problem as it is filling my disk every couple days or so.
> 
> -- 
> Daniel Rischar
> Computer Engineering
> Case Western Reserve University
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> 



OK Im not necessarily flaming ya hearbut that email (subject matter) 
with your sig at the bottom.that got me laughing so hard.  Great to 
see that the Institutes of Higher Learning are still raising the bar for 
future generations.


Anyways...since you run SVN, or at least something thats not the most 
recent stable release, you really should try and keep up with whats 
going on, hmmkay? Have fun readin -dev and -commits.



Tom
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Re: [mythtv-users] Revised MythTV Subversion ebuilds for Gentoo available

[Scott Alfter]

Drew Tomlinson wrote:
> On 1/11/2006 5:44 PM Scott Alfter wrote:
>> I've also made another change to the ebuilds.  The MythTV ebuild had an
>> override with which you could download and build a particular revision, but 
>> the
>> various plugins didn't have this capability.  I've pushed that override into
>> the mythtv-svn eclass, so your add-ons will come from the same revision.  Add
>> MYTHTV_SVN_REVISION=$num to /etc/make.conf and all of the ebuilds will pull
>> revision $num.  Leave it out and you'll get whatever is most recent.
> 
> This sounds like a nice feature.  Any recommendations for a stable 
> revision?  I would like the new features but am not skilled enough to 
> deal with weird breakage.  (I know, then I should just stay with stable 
> releases...)

I've not done much experimentation with it, but I'm currently using revision 
8444.  Whether that's really better or worse than other recent activity, I 
couldn't say.  So far, it seems to be working OK.  8456 adds the ability to 
schedule custom recordings through MythWeb; since that's something I recently 
said would be a good idea, I should probably give that (or a later revision) a 
shot sometime.

   _/_
  / v \ Scott Alfter
(IIGS( http://alfter.us/Top-posting!
  \_^_/ rm -rf /bin/laden>What's the most annoying thing on Usenet?

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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X & MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

[David Snider]

>>
>>
> I'm just glad it isn't just me! I will try to get you that info  
> tomorrow
> night, Dave.
>
Ok, there are now two new 0.18.1 versions at thesniderpad.com.  One  
is the vanilla 0.18.1 and the other is the 0.18.1-fixes branch from  
SVN.  Let me know if you try them and what your status is

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Re: [mythtv-users] Missing category colors in epg

[Korey Fort]

mythtv/themes/default/categories.xml
Does this file exist on your system?
This is where the category colors are and qtlook.txt. 

"Let ye without segmentation fault cast the first int!"

Korey Fort
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hans Hvelplund Odborg
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 8:44 PM
To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org
Subject: [mythtv-users] Missing category colors in epg

After resetting  my Program list and seting everything up again in the 
channeleditor of mythsetup I've now lost the colors in the epg.

This is both when accessed on tv and mythweb.
I can see in the database (program table) that most shows are categorized 
(such as news, kids, comedy, drama, etc.)

So how come there's no color?
I'm using 0.18.1
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Re: [mythtv-users] Hauppauge PVR Questions

[MagicITX]

On 1/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 20:51:16 +0100> From: MagicITX <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> The 250 is going away.Can you provide a cite for this?  I don't see anything about it goingaway on Hauppauge's website.___
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Communication with Hauppauge OEM Sales.  

They have been trying to phase out the 250 since middle of last year
but it is pretty popular.  Now though they have to comply with the
lead free legislation of the EU.  They don't want to redo the 250
manufacturing at this point.  I don't have a timeline for the
phase out but we are moving our products to the 150/500.-- Timwww.magicitx.com
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Re: [mythtv-users] Odds of Linux CableCARD support?

[Ross Campbell]

The whole HD thing is really starting to stink.

US government forcing adoption of HDTV due to all of the egg on their
face because of the lack of interest around their non-open standard.

US governemnt forced to subsidize TV upgrades for the masses so that
we can get this "superior" TV that is being mandated by the
government. Cost to taxpayers? 1.5 billion.

New TV buyers dissatisfied by the lack of HD programming.

Cable companies moving channels from basic cable or extended basic to
digital cable just to force people to rent their underpowered cable
boxes and pay more per month.

Eventually there will be a "CableCARD Jon" and we'll be in an awkward
position of having *hardware* that is legal to use under Windows and
illegal to use under Linux!

Then, I'm sure a new standard will be proposed and we'll need to buy
new TVs all over again.

When will this madness stop???

I think I'll stick with SDTV and use my government HDTV subsidy money
to buy another hard drive.


-Ross
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Re: [mythtv-users] plextor convertx audio trouble

[Jason]

Brian Wood ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Jan 11, 2006, at 9:58 PM, Jason wrote:
> > I received my Plextor ConvertX PX-TV402U this afternoon.  Other than
> > needing to force hotplug with 'make install USE_UDEV=n', the install
> > went smoothly. :)
> >
> > Recording with gorecord went well, I can see and hear the file.
> > gorecord reports using /dev/video and /dev/dsp1.
> >
> > I've used mythtv for over two years (well, since 0.7-8ish), never saw
> > anything like this.
> >
> > No matter what I try, mythbackend will only open /dev/sound/dsp.  I  
> > set
> > it everywhere to /dev/dsp1, and when I enter setup again, it's  
> > changed to
> > /dev/dsp... wtf?  So I went into mythconverg and changed the only
> > value='AudioDevice' I have in settings to /dev/dsp1.  That sticks.
> > Unfortunately, when mythfrontend is running remotely (the only way I
> > ever run it), I get no audio.  An 'lsof | grep myth | grep dsp' yields
> > only one line with mythbackend opening /dev/sound/dsp
> >
> > So I search the source (0.18.1), I can see some default values set to
> > '/dev/dsp', but I don't see any hard-coded lines.
> >
> > Right now, I'm re-merging (gentoo) mythtv with debugging support.  In
> > the meantime, any ideas?
> >
> If you're not using udev couldn't you just link /dev/dsp to /dev/ 
> dsp1? or is something else using /dev/dsp? If you use udev a straight  
> link wouldn't work (it would get hosed at every boot) but you could  
> re-write the rules/permissions to achieve the same thing.

No, I still use udev (plextor's driver can use hotplug (USE_UDEV=n) or
udev (USE_UDEV=y) to initiate to device), and /dev/dsp is my
soundcard... 

Remembered this error from the logs:

Starting up as the master server.
VIDIOC_S_CTRL:V4L2_CID_AUDIO_MUTE: Invalid argument

I had tried the v4lctl command from xawtv pkg, but that didn't help...

thx,

Jason.
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Re: [mythtv-users] plextor convertx audio trouble

[Brian Wood]

On Jan 11, 2006, at 9:58 PM, Jason wrote:

> I received my Plextor ConvertX PX-TV402U this afternoon.  Other than
> needing to force hotplug with 'make install USE_UDEV=n', the install
> went smoothly. :)
>
> Recording with gorecord went well, I can see and hear the file.
> gorecord reports using /dev/video and /dev/dsp1.
>
> I've used mythtv for over two years (well, since 0.7-8ish), never saw
> anything like this.
>
> No matter what I try, mythbackend will only open /dev/sound/dsp.  I  
> set
> it everywhere to /dev/dsp1, and when I enter setup again, it's  
> changed to
> /dev/dsp... wtf?  So I went into mythconverg and changed the only
> value='AudioDevice' I have in settings to /dev/dsp1.  That sticks.
> Unfortunately, when mythfrontend is running remotely (the only way I
> ever run it), I get no audio.  An 'lsof | grep myth | grep dsp' yields
> only one line with mythbackend opening /dev/sound/dsp
>
> So I search the source (0.18.1), I can see some default values set to
> '/dev/dsp', but I don't see any hard-coded lines.
>
> Right now, I'm re-merging (gentoo) mythtv with debugging support.  In
> the meantime, any ideas?
>
> thx,
>
If you're not using udev couldn't you just link /dev/dsp to /dev/ 
dsp1? or is something else using /dev/dsp? If you use udev a straight  
link wouldn't work (it would get hosed at every boot) but you could  
re-write the rules/permissions to achieve the same thing.
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[mythtv-users] plextor convertx audio trouble

[Jason]

I received my Plextor ConvertX PX-TV402U this afternoon.  Other than
needing to force hotplug with 'make install USE_UDEV=n', the install
went smoothly. :)

Recording with gorecord went well, I can see and hear the file.
gorecord reports using /dev/video and /dev/dsp1. 

I've used mythtv for over two years (well, since 0.7-8ish), never saw
anything like this.

No matter what I try, mythbackend will only open /dev/sound/dsp.  I set
it everywhere to /dev/dsp1, and when I enter setup again, it's changed to
/dev/dsp... wtf?  So I went into mythconverg and changed the only
value='AudioDevice' I have in settings to /dev/dsp1.  That sticks.
Unfortunately, when mythfrontend is running remotely (the only way I
ever run it), I get no audio.  An 'lsof | grep myth | grep dsp' yields 
only one line with mythbackend opening /dev/sound/dsp  

So I search the source (0.18.1), I can see some default values set to
'/dev/dsp', but I don't see any hard-coded lines.

Right now, I'm re-merging (gentoo) mythtv with debugging support.  In
the meantime, any ideas?

thx,

Jason.

btw - I checked permissions and symlinks on /dev/dsp and /dev/dsp1, both
appear correct.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Workaround for WM Focus Issues

[Michael T. Dean]

On 01/12/05 19:54, Michael Ford wrote:

>On Sunday 05 September 2004 10:46 pm, Michael T. Dean wrote:
>  
>
>>/me punts
>>
>>
>>If anyone knows of a solution to the problem or a less ugly workaround,
>>please let me know.
>>
>>
>I found a fix digging around the net.  There's  a section of Xine source code 
>that sets the focus to the root window upon exit (event.c line 1814-1819).   
>The attached patch comments out that section.  Apply to xine-ui-0.99 and 
>recompile.  This fixed it for me!
>  
>
For the archives...  I can confirm that this fix works (finally got 
around to testing it) and, as pointed out by Petr Stehlik in another 
thread, it's already applied to xine-ui 0.99.4 and above.  So the 
easiest fix is to upgrade xine.

Mike
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Re: [mythtv-users] Still Can't Get pcHDTV-3000 Installed

[Brian Wood]

On Jan 11, 2006, at 9:00 PM, Drew Tomlinson wrote:

>>
> I assume you mean this "How To"?
>
> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV

Correct, so you saw the portion I cited.
>
> I chose the same options for my kernel as shown under th "pcHDTV  
> HD-3000
> Card" heading.  The menuconfig automatically includes DVB_CX22702=m  
> and
> DVB_OR51132=m in your config file when you select:
>
> Multimedia devices --->
>  Video For Linux
> Video For Linux --->
>  Conexant 2388x (bt878 successor) support
>DVB Support for cx2388x based TV cards
>
> If you enter "Customize DVB Frontends --->" after selecting the above,
> you will see that you can not set options for
>
> [-] Conexant cx22702 demodulator (OFDM)
>
> Or
>
> [-] OR51132 based (pcHDTV HD3000 card)
>
> So as far as I can tell, I'm missing something else.  Any ideas?

Unfortunately no, but I have a HD-3000 card that I haven't got around  
to setting up yet, so I am very interested in this matter. I just  
remembered seeing that portion of the HT.

I'm not sure what version of the kernel the HowTo was written for,  
things seem to be changing even now with the video devices support.  
I'm not looking forward to the upcoming "merge", although I guess in  
the long run it will help.

Isn't "Customize DVB frontends" under DVB and not v4l? This would  
seem to mean that it should not be selected if you chose v4l conexant  
support. But I'm not anywhere near certain of this.

Unfortunately it will be a few days before I can play with my 3000  
card,  but I'll certainly pass along anything I figure out.
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[mythtv-users] Project Grayhem Wide weird font size issue...

[Steve Adeff]

I got my new system drive and have Myth setup, but now when I go into the 
Manage Recordings Screen "Schedule Recordings" and "Upcoming Recordings" have 
"Recordings" below Schedule/Upcoming and only showing the top half because 
the menu option below it is covering it...

I have no idea how to solve this, I tried changing the Appearance font sizes 
to no avail...

-- 
Steve
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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X & MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

[Matt Hannan]

David Snider wrote:
> On Jan 10, 2006, at 6:17 PM, Jens Baumeister wrote:
>
>   
>> On 1/11/06, Jens Baumeister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> No, sorry, I don't, as I currently use the frontend build without the
>>> plugins. (IIRC it always crashed upon launch - I
>>>   
>> Clarifying myself here: The "thesniderpad.com" build *with* the
>> frontend crashes for me - that's why I use the one wihtout the
>> plugins.
>>
>> 
> Well, that's a bummer.  It sounds like we have a mixture of people  
> who it works for and who it doesn't.   I did compile a new 0.18.1  
> with plugins today.  I replaced the one on my site with that build.   
> I tested it on my Mac Mini and it worked like a charm.  That probably  
> doesn't say much though, since the last one did too..   For those of  
> you who can't get it working, let me know.  I'd be interested to see  
> the output of uname -a, env, set, contents of .profile and others...   
> The more information the better.
>
> Anyway, if anybody wants to try again, the new build of 0.18.1 is @  
> http://www.thesniderpad.com/index.php? 
> option=com_remository&Itemid=36&func=select&id=2 Feedback as usual is  
> always appreciated.
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I'm just glad it isn't just me! I will try to get you that info tomorrow 
night, Dave.

Thanks.
Matt
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Re: [mythtv-users] MythWeb returns blank pages

[Chris Petersen]

> Chris, I did this, and it helped me to figure out some things, but I'm
> still stuck with this in my error log:
> 
> [09-Jan-2006 09:10:46] PHP Fatal error:  Cannot redeclare setting()
> (previously declared in /var/www/localhost/htdocs/includes/utils.php:24)
> in /var/www/localhost/htdocs/includes/utils.php on line 24
> 
> Ever seen this before? Any ideas?

The only thing I can think of is if something is calling require instead 
of require_once.  I've checked my tree, and utils.php is called only 
from init.php and db.php, both via require_once.

 From your error message, yours is obviously pulling it twice, which 
means that your version of php is broken and not doing require_once 
properly, or something's messed up in your code.

I don't remember, have you done a complete clean install?

-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] Linux newbie strikes again... PVR-150 not outputting to X300...

[obscure information.]

Hello,

Thanks for the quick reply!

How do I rearrange my displays?  Is it as simple as changing


    Option  "MonitorLayout" "CRT,TV"


    Option  "ForceMonitors" "CRT,TV"

To


    Option  "MonitorLayout" "TV,CRT"


    Option  "ForceMonitors" "TV,CRT"

I apologize in advance for any dumb questions.  Thanks for the help.

~DrewOn 1/11/06, Michael T. Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
obscure information. wrote:> I've been working on my mythtv install for a bit now, but I've> encountered an issue now that everything is more-or-less configured.> I've got a PVR-150 that appears to be configured properly, based on
> the fact that I can tune in channels and view them on the monitor.  I> can also view the output from my ATI X300 video card using the> proprietary fglrx driver on my TV without issue.>> When I start the myth frontend, I can see my initial menu (
i.e. watch> tv, setup, etc.) on the TV and the CRT at the same time.  As soon as I> select "Watch TV", I get a blue screen on my TV and the output shifts> solely to my CRT.  Going back to the previous menu, bringing up the
> guide, and the like all result in the picture reappearing on the TV.Your video card's drivers--like all of them I've ever seen--onlysupports Xv on one display.  The other display shows the Xv color key.
To put the video on the TV (and the color key on your CRT), you need torearrange your displays.  If you don't want the color key on the CRT,you need to re-think your configuration.Mike

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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X & MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

[Brad DerManouelian]

On Jan 11, 2006, at 10:37 PM, David Snider wrote:

>
>> This didn't work for me. I'm running a straight-up 0.18.1 backend. It
>> looks like this was compiled with some other branch. Version claims
>> "0.18.2, MythTV project, www.mythtv.org"
>>
>> However, your 0.18.1 without plugins works ok for me.
> Yeah, it's the 0.18-fixes that were put in..  For some reason it
> lists as 0.18.2 even though there isn't an official 0.18.2 version.
> What didn't work?

Unfortunately, I didn't look much into it. I launched it and it  
immediately stopped. I've just install svn backend, so I'm afraid I  
won't be able to see the error message any more.
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Re: [mythtv-users] 1080i content and xv

[Steve Adeff]

On Wednesday 11 January 2006 22:46, Chris Ribe wrote:
> Minor success!
>
> If I make the window wider than my desktop, the video plays back normally.
> Of course, it has also crashed x once and hard frozen the computer another
> time.  Perhaps the -panscan option will help me out.
>
> On 1/11/06, Chris Ribe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The output from the cable box is an MPEG-TS stream over firewire.
> > Playback works fine for 720p channels.  The clip I am testing with was
> > captured off of PBS.
> >
> > I've tried playing the clip back at half size with VLC, and the results
> > were the same.  I'm having trouble figuring out how to do any scaling
> > with mplayer.
> >
> > The GPU is an old nVidia GeForce2 card w/ 32MB of ram. I don't know much
> > more than that.
> >
> >
> > Here is the current state of my xorg.conf (I switched to the xv driver
> > earlier this evening, disregard the monitor section as that is not
> > actually my monitor):
> >
> > # Xorg configuration created by system-config-display
> >
> > Section "ServerLayout"
> > Identifier "single head configuration"
> > Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
> > InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
> > InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "Files"
> >
> > # RgbPath is the location of the RGB database.  Note, this is the name of
> > the
> > # file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db").  There is normally
> > # no need to change the default.
> > # Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
> > # By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
> > # the X server to render fonts.
> > RgbPath  "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
> > ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/nvidia"
> > ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions"
> > ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
> > FontPath "unix/:7100"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "Module"
> > Load  "dbe"
> > Load  "extmod"
> > Load  "fbdevhw"
> > ##  Load  "glx"
> > Load  "record"
> > Load  "freetype"
> > Load  "type1"
> > Load  "dri"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "InputDevice"
> >
> > # Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
> > #   Option  "Xleds" "1 2 3"
> > # To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable.
> > #   Option  "XkbDisable"
> > # To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
> > # lines below (which are the defaults).  For example, for a non-U.S.
> > # keyboard, you will probably want to use:
> > #   Option  "XkbModel"  "pc102"
> > # If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
> > #   Option  "XkbModel"  "microsoft"
> > #
> > # Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
> > # For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
> > #   Option  "XkbLayout" "de"
> > # or:
> > #   Option  "XkbLayout" "de"
> > #   Option  "XkbVariant""nodeadkeys"
> > #
> > # If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
> > # control keys, use:
> > #   Option  "XkbOptions""ctrl:swapcaps"
> > # Or if you just want both to be control, use:
> > #   Option  "XkbOptions""ctrl:nocaps"
> > #
> > Identifier  "Keyboard0"
> > Driver  "kbd"
> > Option  "XkbModel" "pc105"
> > Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "InputDevice"
> > Identifier  "Mouse0"
> > Driver  "mouse"
> > Option  "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
> > Option  "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
> > Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
> > Option  "Emulate3Buttons" "yes"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "Monitor"
> > Identifier   "Monitor0"
> > VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
> > ModelName"Dell 1905FP (Analog)"
> > DisplaySize  370270
> > HorizSync30.0 - 81.0
> > VertRefresh  56.0 - 76.0
> > Option  "dpms"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "Device"
> > Identifier  "Videocard0"
> > Driver  "nv"
> > VendorName  "Videocard vendor"
> > BoardName   "NVIDIA GeForce 2 MX (generic)"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "Screen"
> > Identifier "Screen0"
> > Device "Videocard0"
> > Monitor"Monitor0"
> > DefaultDepth 24
> > SubSection "Display"
> > Viewport   0 0
> > Depth 16
> > Modes"800x600" "640x480"
> > EndSubSection
> > SubSection "Display"
> > Viewport   0 0
> > Depth 24
> > Modes"1600x1200" "1400x1050" "1280x960" "1280x800"
> > "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
> > EndSubSection
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "DRI"
> > Group0
> > Mode 066

Re: [mythtv-users] Slightly OT: receiver input buzzing/humming

[Steve Adeff]

On Wednesday 11 January 2006 22:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:11:05 -0500
> > From: Steve Adeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > you've obvously not deallt much with audio equipment ground problems.
>
> ...except, perhaps, in my days doing live audio work for theaters. :)
> [Aha!  I think you said this because I was careless in my phrasing;
> see a few paragraphs below.  No hard feelings. :) ]
>
> [I note that going into excruciatingly correct theory on audio signal
> handling is -way- beyond the scope of this list.  So I'm simplifying.
> (Ditto for how to design the grounds on sub-microvolt lab instruments.)
> There are actually some interestingly controversial theories about it
> in the audio field, too, some of which seem like total voodoo, and a
> lot of religious arguments over it; I prefer the lab-instrument people,
> who tend to be less argumentative as a rule.  And I'm especially glad
> that I no longer have to nail other peoples' hum problems, particularly
> during live events.]
>
> >   A 
> ground
> > loop hum/buzz will work its way from the input ground to the output
> > ground to the amp ground, etc, etc. causing hum in the output.
> > Usually the hum will increase in volume as the preamp volume is
> > turned up, depending on the topology, and can be a good way to tell
> > if its a ground hum or powerline hum.
>
> I never said it wouldn't.  ---oh wait, I see (now) how you read my
> reply.  I was answering the coax-bit-flipping case for the "shield
> missing" hypothesis, and you were thinking along the lines of "intact
> coax shield enables ground loops" hypothesis, which I didn't get into
> until the -next- paragraph about tying grounds together.  But I got
> careless and typed "ground hum" there instead of "signal hum".  Oops.
> Total change in meaning due to a braino on my part.  Sorry for the
> confusion.
>
> But my suspicion (as I said before) is that all this talk of ground
> loops is probably bogus.  I think he's got a bad signal shield
> somewhere, or a bad cap, or a bad design.
>
> > All good home theatre equipment will have at least 1 screw that is an
> > external ground point for helping to solve ground loop problems,
> > though really they are (or "were") there to ground record player arms
> > back when people knew what vinyl was.
>
> Yeah, but I'll bet his TV and his computer don't, unfortunately.
> And frankly, they shouldn't need it---the vast majority of stereos
> get along just fine with no more attention to grounding than "make
> sure you plug all the cables in all the way".
>
> > Yes, connecting both peices of equipment to a good filtered power
> > strip (Panamax, Belkin PureAV, NOT Monster) will be the best way to
> > solve the
>
> Maybe if it's powerline-induced ground hum, which I doubt.  I've
> typically found that concentrating on (and chasing) loops in powerline
> grounds is counterproductive; it's usually some screwup in the signal
> paths.  Everybody instantly leaps to "oh, it's a ground loop!" but it
> turns out to be pretty difficult to really get nailed by that sort of
> thing in audio work.  (I could tell you stories of truly bizarre
> all-analog line-level (thank god, not mic-level) whole-building
> distribution systems that, amazingly enough, functioned despite
> looking like the entire thing would be one giant hairball of loops,
> but nonetheless were fine if signal grounds were done right.  But
> I digress... :)
>
> > problem, but may not always work, if the hum is coming from, say, a
> > cable line, or failing capacitor...
>
> My current theories.  (Or just a crappy soundcard that -always- hums,
> but was only noticed because he's suddenly turning things up really
> load to hear unexpectedly faint output---it'd be good to know if he's
> really maxed out his soundcard outputs and mixers all along the way.
> Sure, they may distort, but he can back off from that and then see
> if he still has to turn up the amp so far that he hears hum.)
>
> I really think that the most productive next step in this discussion
> is not to have either one of us keep talking, but to have him start
> swapping cables (first), then soundcards (second), then maybe what
> outlets things are plugged into (distant third), but I think that
> without some experimental evidence, we've reached the end of what
> anyone can sensibly say might be wrong.  So I'll bow out now. :)

and thats how flame wars start...
in the end we agree, we just don't type the same langauge ;-)

I've actually seen ground loops with modern 2prong televisions. I never was 
able to figure out the problem exactly, but I got a case of beer for fixing 
the overall issue, so I was happy...

I've also had ground hum through coax digital on my own stereo before I 
purchased a line filter power strip. I could not connect a peice of equipment 
to my receiver in any fa

Re: [mythtv-users] Linux newbie strikes again... PVR-150 not outputting to X300...

[Michael T. Dean]

obscure information. wrote:

> I've been working on my mythtv install for a bit now, but I've 
> encountered an issue now that everything is more-or-less configured.  
> I've got a PVR-150 that appears to be configured properly, based on 
> the fact that I can tune in channels and view them on the monitor.  I 
> can also view the output from my ATI X300 video card using the 
> proprietary fglrx driver on my TV without issue.
>
> When I start the myth frontend, I can see my initial menu (i.e. watch 
> tv, setup, etc.) on the TV and the CRT at the same time.  As soon as I 
> select "Watch TV", I get a blue screen on my TV and the output shifts 
> solely to my CRT.  Going back to the previous menu, bringing up the 
> guide, and the like all result in the picture reappearing on the TV.

Your video card's drivers--like all of them I've ever seen--only 
supports Xv on one display.  The other display shows the Xv color key.  
To put the video on the TV (and the color key on your CRT), you need to 
rearrange your displays.  If you don't want the color key on the CRT, 
you need to re-think your configuration.

Mike
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[mythtv-users] PCI Express video card with picture controls

[Mike Morrison]

Hi all.  I'm looking for advice on a video card.

I recently purchased a new motherboard/processor that I'd hoped to use to
upgrade my mythtv system.  The new machine does everything I want it to
performance-wise -- i.e. playback HDTV video smoothly.  It has one major
flaw, though.  The video card is a PCI-e nvidia 6200-based card.  In their
infinite wisdom, nvidia removed some of the Xv hardware support that was
in all previous video cards.  Most importantly to me, it's no longer
possible to adjust color saturation and hue.  Since I'm connected to my
display through an RGB DVI connection, it's not possible to adjust these
controls on the display either.  The saturation setting the card uses has
the colors so blown out that it's unwatchable.

I posted to nvidia's forum and the reponse was that video overlay support
is gone and I should try using an application that has an opengl video
output driver.  Since that's not a practical solution, I'm looking for
other suggestions.  Does anyone know of a PCI-express video card that can
handle HDTV resolutions and has video overlay support? Nvidia used to sell
5300PCX cards, but those are no longer available.

Thanks,

-- Mike


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Re: [mythtv-users] Recordings filling disk, not showing up in list

[Michael T. Dean]

Daniel Rischar wrote:

> For some reason, my recordings directory seems to to fill up my disk.  
> I emptied the folder but a few minutes late, it started to fill 
> again.   None of the files show up under recordings, and I have not 
> been recording anything so the folder should be empty.  I cannot 
> figure out where the files are coming from, or why they are not being 
> deleted automatically by mythtv.  Might somebody be able to shed some 
> light on this?
>
> The directory looks like the following (this is after I cleared it out 
> once, the files had reach >2 gb each in size sometimes):
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /media/recordings $ ls -alh
> total 2.5G
> drwxrwxrwx  2 mythtv users 4.0K Jan 11 22:08 .
> drwxr-xr-x  9 mythtv users  120 Jan 11 19:27 ..
> -rw-r--r--  1 root   root   75M Jan 11 21:00 1004_20060111205759.mpg
> -rw-r--r--  1 root   root   35K Jan 11 21:00 1004_20060111205759.mpg.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 root   root  701M Jan 11 21:18 1005_20060111210004.mpg
> -rw-r--r--  1 root   root   22K Jan 11 21:18 1005_20060111210004.mpg.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 root   root  284M Jan 11 21:29 1005_20060111212140.mpg
> -rw-r--r--  1 root   root   27K Jan 11 21:29 1005_20060111212140.mpg.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 root   root  200M Jan 11 21:39 1005_20060111213349.mpg
> -rw-r--r--  1 root   root   23K Jan 11 21:39 1005_20060111213349.mpg.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 root   root  632M Jan 11 22:00 1005_20060111214301.mpg
> -rw-r--r--  1 root   root   23K Jan 11 22:00 1005_20060111214301.mpg.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 root   root  221M Jan 11 22:05 1005_20060111220001.mpg
> -rw-r--r--  1 root   root   23K Jan 11 22:05 1005_20060111220001.mpg.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 root   root   90M Jan 11 21:21 1007_20060111211914.mpg
> -rw-r--r--  1 root   root   31K Jan 11 21:21 1007_20060111211914.mpg.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 root   root  168M Jan 11 21:33 1007_20060111212919.mpg
> -rw-r--r--  1 root   root   28K Jan 11 21:33 1007_20060111212919.mpg.png
> -rw-r--r--  1 root   root  127M Jan 11 21:42 1007_20060111213911.mpg
> -rw-r--r--  1 root   root   28K Jan 11 21:42 
> 1007_20060111213911.mpg.png  
>
> It adds a new one everytime I change the channel, and the longer I 
> leave it there the larger the file gets.  It is as if mythtv is always 
> recording, but never adds anything to the database.  This is becoming 
> a major problem as it is filling my disk every couple days or so.

If you're using SVN it is *your* responsibility to keep up with the dev 
list...

SVN records LiveTV as regular recordings.  People got all bent out of 
shape over seeing the LiveTV recordings in the "All Recordings" list, so 
an option to hide LiveTV recordings from "All Recordings" was made.  You 
have the option set to hide LiveTV recordings.

Also, it doesn't matter if your disk fills up.  That's what autoexpire 
is for.  Ah, ah, ah.  Don't say, "But I turned off autoexpire," because 
autoexpire is no longer an option--it's always turned on.

Now, please go read the last 4 months of posts on the dev list ( 
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/ )--especially before 
you post why you need the option to turn off autoexpire.

(Many of the "you's" in this message are not necessarily directed at the 
OP.)

Mike
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Re: [mythtv-users] Still Can't Get pcHDTV-3000 Installed

[Drew Tomlinson]

On 1/11/2006 6:39 PM Brian Wood said the following:

>On Jan 11, 2006, at 7:19 PM, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
>  
>
>>I've tried again and finally figured out that by selecting this:
>>
>>Device-drivers ->
>>
>>  Multimedia devices ->
>>
>>[-] Video for Linux ->
>>  Video for Linux ->
>>Video Adapters
>>[-] Conexant 2388x (bt878 successor) support
>>(CONFIG_VIDEO_CX88=m)
>>  [-] DVB support for cx2388x based TV Cards
>>(CONFIG_VIDEO_CX88_DVB=m)
>>
>>Digital Video Broadcasting Devices ->
>>  [-] DVB for Linux(DVB=m)
>>[-] DVB Core Support   (DVB_CORE=m)
>>
>>This is selected automatically:
>>
>>  Customize DVB Frontends ->
>>[-] Conexant cx22702 demodulator (OFDM)(DVB_CX22702=m)
>>[-] OR51132 based (pcHDTV HD3000 card) (DVB_OR51132=m)
>>
>>Now I finally have a cx88-dvb module to load.  However when I try  
>>using
>>'modprobe -v', I get a bunch of this:
>>
>>insmod
>>/lib/modules/2.6.13-gentoo-r5/kernel/drivers/media/dvb/frontends/ 
>>dvb-pll.ko
>>WARNING: Error inserting dvb_pll
>>(/lib/modules/2.6.13-gentoo-r5/kernel/drivers/media/dvb/frontends/ 
>>dvb-pll.ko):
>>Invalid module format
>>insmod
>>/lib/modules/2.6.13-gentoo-r5/kernel/drivers/media/dvb/frontends/ 
>>cx22702.ko
>>WARNING: Error inserting cx22702
>>(/lib/modules/2.6.13-gentoo-r5/kernel/drivers/media/dvb/frontends/ 
>>cx22702.ko):
>>Invalid module format
>>
>>So what am I missing now?
>>
>>
>>
>I thought I read somewhere that you couldn't have the v4l and the dvb  
>stuff at the same time. I think it's OK to have the "DVB for Linux"  
>and "DVB Core" as modules but the frontends will conflict, because  
>you have DVB from the cx2388x and from the DVB section.
>
>This may resolve when the v4l and DVB stuff is all merged into the  
>kernel but I'm sure you don't want to wait that long.
>
> From the Gentoo MythTV HowTo:
>
>"You can only load either the DVB or Video 4 Linux drivers, but not  
>both".
>
I assume you mean this "How To"?

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV

I chose the same options for my kernel as shown under th "pcHDTV HD-3000 
Card" heading.  The menuconfig automatically includes DVB_CX22702=m and 
DVB_OR51132=m in your config file when you select:

Multimedia devices --->
 Video For Linux
Video For Linux --->
 Conexant 2388x (bt878 successor) support
   DVB Support for cx2388x based TV cards

If you enter "Customize DVB Frontends --->" after selecting the above, 
you will see that you can not set options for

[-] Conexant cx22702 demodulator (OFDM)

Or

[-] OR51132 based (pcHDTV HD3000 card)

So as far as I can tell, I'm missing something else.  Any ideas?

Thanks,

Drew



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[mythtv-users] Linux newbie strikes again... PVR-150 not outputting to X300...

[obscure information.]

Hello,

I've been working on my mythtv install for a bit now, but I've
encountered an issue now that everything is more-or-less
configured.  I've got a PVR-150 that appears to be configured
properly, based on the fact that I can tune in channels and view them
on the monitor.  I can also view the output from my ATI X300 video
card using the proprietary fglrx driver on my TV without issue.

When I start the myth frontend, I can see my initial menu (i.e. watch
tv, setup, etc.) on the TV and the CRT at the same time.  As soon
as I select "Watch TV", I get a blue screen on my TV and the output
shifts solely to my CRT.  Going back to the previous menu,
bringing up the guide, and the like all result in the picture
reappearing on the TV.

I'm really not sure where to begin debugging this, but my modprobe.conf
and a snippet of my xorg.conf are pasted below for review.  If
anyone can assist me in shedding some light on what I've been doing
wrong here, I would greatly appreciate it.

modprobe.conf

alias char-major-61 lirc_i2c
alias eth0 tg3
alias scsi_hostadapter ata_piix
alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
options snd-card-0 index=0
options snd-intel8x0 index=0
remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 >/dev/null
2>&1 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0
alias usb-controller ehci-hcd
alias usb-controller1 uhci-hcd
alias tveeprom tveeprom-ivtv
alias tuner tuner-ivtv
alias tda9887 tda9887-ivtv
alias msp3400 msp3400-ivtv
alias char-major-81 ivtv
install lirc_i2c /sbin/modprobe ivtv; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install lirc_i2c

xorg.conf

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "Videocard0"
    Driver  "fglrx"
    VendorName  "Videocard vendor"
    BoardName   "ATI Radeon X300"
    Option        "VideoOverlay" "on"
    Option  "MonitorLayout" "CRT,TV"
    Option  "ForceMonitors" "CRT,TV"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier "Screen0"
    Device "Videocard0"
    Monitor    "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth 24
    SubSection "Display"
        Viewport   0 0
        Depth 16
        Modes    "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
        Viewport   0 0
        Depth 24
        Modes    "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
EndSection

Thanks,

~Drew
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[mythtv-users] Recordings filling disk, not showing up in list

[Daniel Rischar]

For some reason, my recordings directory seems to to fill up my disk.  I emptied the folder but a few minutes late, it started to fill again.   None of the files show up under recordings, and I have not been recording anything so the folder should be empty.  I cannot figure out where the files are coming from, or why they are not being deleted automatically by mythtv.  Might somebody be able to shed some light on this?
The directory looks like the following (this is after I cleared it out once, the files had reach >2 gb each in size sometimes):[EMAIL PROTECTED] /media/recordings $ ls -alhtotal 2.5Gdrwxrwxrwx  2 mythtv users 
4.0K Jan 11 22:08 .drwxr-xr-x  9 mythtv users  120 Jan 11 19:27 ..-rw-r--r--  1 root   root   75M Jan 11 21:00 1004_20060111205759.mpg-rw-r--r--  1 root   root   35K Jan 11 21:00 1004_20060111205759.mpg.png
-rw-r--r--  1 root   root  701M Jan 11 21:18 1005_20060111210004.mpg-rw-r--r--  1 root   root   22K Jan 11 21:18 1005_20060111210004.mpg.png-rw-r--r--  1 root   root  284M Jan 11 21:29 1005_20060111212140.mpg-rw-r--r--  1 root   root   27K Jan 11 21:29 1005_20060111212140.mpg.png
-rw-r--r--  1 root   root  200M Jan 11 21:39 1005_20060111213349.mpg-rw-r--r--  1 root   root   23K Jan 11 21:39 1005_20060111213349.mpg.png-rw-r--r--  1 root   root  632M Jan 11 22:00 1005_20060111214301.mpg
-rw-r--r--  1 root   root   23K Jan 11 22:00 1005_20060111214301.mpg.png-rw-r--r--  1 root   root  221M Jan 11 22:05 1005_20060111220001.mpg-rw-r--r--  1 root   root   23K Jan 11 22:05 1005_20060111220001.mpg.png
-rw-r--r--  1 root   root   90M Jan 11 21:21 1007_20060111211914.mpg-rw-r--r--  1 root   root   31K Jan 11 21:21 1007_20060111211914.mpg.png-rw-r--r--  1 root   root  168M Jan 11 21:33 1007_20060111212919.mpg-rw-r--r--  1 root   root   28K Jan 11 21:33 1007_20060111212919.mpg.png
-rw-r--r--  1 root   root  127M Jan 11 21:42 1007_20060111213911.mpg-rw-r--r--  1 root   root   28K Jan 11 21:42 1007_20060111213911.mpg.png    
It adds a new one everytime I change the channel, and the longer I leave it there the larger the file gets.  It is as if mythtv is always recording, but never adds anything to the database.  This is becoming a major problem as it is filling my disk every couple days or so.
-- Daniel RischarComputer EngineeringCase Western Reserve University[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [mythtv-users] 1080i content and xv

[Chris Ribe]

Minor success!

If I make the window wider than my desktop, the video plays back
normally.  Of course, it has also crashed x once and hard frozen
the computer another time.  Perhaps the -panscan option will help
me out.On 1/11/06, Chris Ribe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The output from the cable box is an MPEG-TS stream over firewire. 
Playback works fine for 720p channels.  The clip I am testing with
was captured off of PBS.  

I've tried playing the clip back at half size with VLC, and the results
were the same.  I'm having trouble figuring out how to do any
scaling with mplayer.  

The GPU is an old nVidia GeForce2 card w/ 32MB of ram. I don't know much more than that.  


Here is the current state of my xorg.conf (I switched to the xv driver
earlier this evening, disregard the monitor section as that is not
actually my monitor):

# Xorg configuration created by system-config-display

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier "single head configuration"
    Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"

# RgbPath is the location of the RGB database.  Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db").  There is normally
# no need to change the default.
# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
# By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
# the X server to render fonts.
    RgbPath  "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
    ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/nvidia"
    ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions"
    ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
    FontPath "unix/:7100"
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load  "dbe"
    Load  "extmod"
    Load  "fbdevhw"
##  Load  "glx"
    Load  "record"
    Load  "freetype"
    Load  "type1"
    Load  "dri"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
#   Option  "Xleds" "1 2 3"
# To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable.
#   Option  "XkbDisable"
# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults).  For example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
#   Option  "XkbModel"  "pc102"
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
#   Option  "XkbModel"  "microsoft"
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
#   Option  "XkbLayout" "de"
# or:
#   Option  "XkbLayout" "de"
#   Option  "XkbVariant"    "nodeadkeys"
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
#   Option  "XkbOptions"    "ctrl:swapcaps"
# Or if you just want both to be control, use:
#   Option  "XkbOptions"    "ctrl:nocaps"
#
    Identifier  "Keyboard0"
    Driver  "kbd"
    Option  "XkbModel" "pc105"
    Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "Mouse0"
    Driver  "mouse"
    Option  "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
    Option  "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
    Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
    Option  "Emulate3Buttons" "yes"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier   "Monitor0"
    VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
    ModelName    "Dell 1905FP (Analog)"
    DisplaySize  370    270
    HorizSync    30.0 - 81.0
    VertRefresh  56.0 - 76.0
    Option  "dpms"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "Videocard0"
    Driver  "nv"
    VendorName  "Videocard vendor"
    BoardName   "NVIDIA GeForce 2 MX (generic)"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier "Screen0"
    Device "Videocard0"
    Monitor    "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth 24
    SubSection "Display"
    Viewport   0 0
    Depth 16
   
Modes    "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
    Viewport   0 0
    Depth 24
   
Modes    "1600x1200" "1400x1050" "1280x960" "1280x800"
"1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
    Group    0
    Mode 0666
EndSection
On 1/11/06, Steve Adeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
On Wednesday 11 January 2006 21:11, Chris Ribe wrote:> Neither of them worked, unfortunately.>> Using the nv driver resulted in a slightly different version of the same> problem.>> Perhaps it is a peculiarity in the transport stream from the cable box,
> perhaps a newer video card would help.  I guess I'll just keep plugging> away and see if I can figure something out.  Thanks for your help.>> On 1/11/06, Brian Wood <

[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > On Jan 11, 2006, at 6:35 PM, Chris Ribe wrote:> > >

Re: [mythtv-users] OS X & MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

[David Snider]

> This didn't work for me. I'm running a straight-up 0.18.1 backend. It
> looks like this was compiled with some other branch. Version claims
> "0.18.2, MythTV project, www.mythtv.org"
>
> However, your 0.18.1 without plugins works ok for me.
Yeah, it's the 0.18-fixes that were put in..  For some reason it  
lists as 0.18.2 even though there isn't an official 0.18.2 version.   
What didn't work?
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[mythtv-users] Slightly OT: receiver input buzzing/humming

[f-myth-users]

> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:11:05 -0500
> From: Steve Adeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> you've obvously not deallt much with audio equipment ground problems.

...except, perhaps, in my days doing live audio work for theaters. :)
[Aha!  I think you said this because I was careless in my phrasing;
see a few paragraphs below.  No hard feelings. :) ]

[I note that going into excruciatingly correct theory on audio signal
handling is -way- beyond the scope of this list.  So I'm simplifying. 
(Ditto for how to design the grounds on sub-microvolt lab instruments.)
There are actually some interestingly controversial theories about it
in the audio field, too, some of which seem like total voodoo, and a
lot of religious arguments over it; I prefer the lab-instrument people,
who tend to be less argumentative as a rule.  And I'm especially glad
that I no longer have to nail other peoples' hum problems, particularly
during live events.]

> A 
ground 
> loop hum/buzz will work its way from the input ground to the output 
ground to 
> the amp ground, etc, etc. causing hum in the output. Usually the hum will 
> increase in volume as the preamp volume is turned up, depending on the 
> topology, and can be a good way to tell if its a ground hum or powerline 
hum.

I never said it wouldn't.  ---oh wait, I see (now) how you read my
reply.  I was answering the coax-bit-flipping case for the "shield
missing" hypothesis, and you were thinking along the lines of "intact
coax shield enables ground loops" hypothesis, which I didn't get into
until the -next- paragraph about tying grounds together.  But I got
careless and typed "ground hum" there instead of "signal hum".  Oops.
Total change in meaning due to a braino on my part.  Sorry for the
confusion.

But my suspicion (as I said before) is that all this talk of ground
loops is probably bogus.  I think he's got a bad signal shield
somewhere, or a bad cap, or a bad design.

> All good home theatre equipment will have at least 1 screw that is an 
external 
> ground point for helping to solve ground loop problems, though really 
they 
> are (or "were") there to ground record player arms back when people knew 
what 
> vinyl was.

Yeah, but I'll bet his TV and his computer don't, unfortunately.
And frankly, they shouldn't need it---the vast majority of stereos
get along just fine with no more attention to grounding than "make
sure you plug all the cables in all the way".

> Yes, connecting both peices of equipment to a good filtered power strip 
> (Panamax, Belkin PureAV, NOT Monster) will be the best way to solve the 

Maybe if it's powerline-induced ground hum, which I doubt.  I've
typically found that concentrating on (and chasing) loops in powerline
grounds is counterproductive; it's usually some screwup in the signal
paths.  Everybody instantly leaps to "oh, it's a ground loop!" but it
turns out to be pretty difficult to really get nailed by that sort of
thing in audio work.  (I could tell you stories of truly bizarre
all-analog line-level (thank god, not mic-level) whole-building
distribution systems that, amazingly enough, functioned despite
looking like the entire thing would be one giant hairball of loops,
but nonetheless were fine if signal grounds were done right.  But
I digress... :)

> problem, but may not always work, if the hum is coming from, say, a cable 
> line, or failing capacitor...

My current theories.  (Or just a crappy soundcard that -always- hums,
but was only noticed because he's suddenly turning things up really
load to hear unexpectedly faint output---it'd be good to know if he's
really maxed out his soundcard outputs and mixers all along the way.
Sure, they may distort, but he can back off from that and then see
if he still has to turn up the amp so far that he hears hum.)

I really think that the most productive next step in this discussion
is not to have either one of us keep talking, but to have him start
swapping cables (first), then soundcards (second), then maybe what
outlets things are plugged into (distant third), but I think that
without some experimental evidence, we've reached the end of what
anyone can sensibly say might be wrong.  So I'll bow out now. :)
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Re: [mythtv-users] 1080i content and xv

[Chris Ribe]

The output from the cable box is an MPEG-TS stream over firewire. 
Playback works fine for 720p channels.  The clip I am testing with
was captured off of PBS.  

I've tried playing the clip back at half size with VLC, and the results
were the same.  I'm having trouble figuring out how to do any
scaling with mplayer.  

The GPU is an old nVidia GeForce2 card w/ 32MB of ram. I don't know much more than that.  


Here is the current state of my xorg.conf (I switched to the xv driver
earlier this evening, disregard the monitor section as that is not
actually my monitor):

# Xorg configuration created by system-config-display

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier "single head configuration"
    Screen  0  "Screen0" 0 0
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"

# RgbPath is the location of the RGB database.  Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db").  There is normally
# no need to change the default.
# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
# By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
# the X server to render fonts.
    RgbPath  "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
    ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/nvidia"
    ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions"
    ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
    FontPath "unix/:7100"
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load  "dbe"
    Load  "extmod"
    Load  "fbdevhw"
##  Load  "glx"
    Load  "record"
    Load  "freetype"
    Load  "type1"
    Load  "dri"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
#   Option  "Xleds" "1 2 3"
# To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable.
#   Option  "XkbDisable"
# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults).  For example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
#   Option  "XkbModel"  "pc102"
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
#   Option  "XkbModel"  "microsoft"
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
#   Option  "XkbLayout" "de"
# or:
#   Option  "XkbLayout" "de"
#   Option  "XkbVariant"    "nodeadkeys"
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
#   Option  "XkbOptions"    "ctrl:swapcaps"
# Or if you just want both to be control, use:
#   Option  "XkbOptions"    "ctrl:nocaps"
#
    Identifier  "Keyboard0"
    Driver  "kbd"
    Option  "XkbModel" "pc105"
    Option  "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "Mouse0"
    Driver  "mouse"
    Option  "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
    Option  "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
    Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
    Option  "Emulate3Buttons" "yes"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier   "Monitor0"
    VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
    ModelName    "Dell 1905FP (Analog)"
    DisplaySize  370    270
    HorizSync    30.0 - 81.0
    VertRefresh  56.0 - 76.0
    Option  "dpms"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "Videocard0"
    Driver  "nv"
    VendorName  "Videocard vendor"
    BoardName   "NVIDIA GeForce 2 MX (generic)"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier "Screen0"
    Device "Videocard0"
    Monitor    "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth 24
    SubSection "Display"
    Viewport   0 0
    Depth 16
   
Modes    "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
    Viewport   0 0
    Depth 24
   
Modes    "1600x1200" "1400x1050" "1280x960" "1280x800"
"1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
    Group    0
    Mode 0666
EndSection
On 1/11/06, Steve Adeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wednesday 11 January 2006 21:11, Chris Ribe wrote:> Neither of them worked, unfortunately.>> Using the nv driver resulted in a slightly different version of the same> problem.>> Perhaps it is a peculiarity in the transport stream from the cable box,
> perhaps a newer video card would help.  I guess I'll just keep plugging> away and see if I can figure something out.  Thanks for your help.>> On 1/11/06, Brian Wood <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > On Jan 11, 2006, at 6:35 PM, Chris Ribe wrote:> > > Sorry, I need a little hand holding here.> > >> > > I assume I can unload the nVidia driver by issuing
> > >> > > #modprobe -r /lib/modules/2.6.14-1.1656_FC4smp/updates/drivers/> > > video/nvidia/nvidia-1_0-7676.ko> >> > Or just "rmmod nvidia", "lsmod" will tell you if 

[mythtv-users] Missing category colors in epg

[Hans Hvelplund Odborg]

After resetting  my Program list and seting everything up again in the 
channeleditor of mythsetup I've now lost the colors in the epg.

This is both when accessed on tv and mythweb.
I can see in the database (program table) that most shows are categorized 
(such as news, kids, comedy, drama, etc.)

So how come there's no color?
I'm using 0.18.1
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Re: [mythtv-users] [Fwd: [Lxmsuite-updates] Subscription notice]

[Chad]

On 12/29/05, Karl Grindley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> this sucks. :(
>
> So, what's the plan now?  revert back to old zap2it services?
>
> Karl
>

I guess I read about the boat long after it had left :)  I keep trying
to go to their website assuming it's just temporarily down, but I
guess it's not temp...

I guess I should be happy that I'm content with zap2it and was just
curious about the themes that were offered.

Oh well...

Chad
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Re: [mythtv-users] 1080i content and xv

[Steve Adeff]

On Wednesday 11 January 2006 21:11, Chris Ribe wrote:
> Neither of them worked, unfortunately.
>
> Using the nv driver resulted in a slightly different version of the same
> problem.
>
> Perhaps it is a peculiarity in the transport stream from the cable box,
> perhaps a newer video card would help.  I guess I'll just keep plugging
> away and see if I can figure something out.  Thanks for your help.
>
> On 1/11/06, Brian Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Jan 11, 2006, at 6:35 PM, Chris Ribe wrote:
> > > Sorry, I need a little hand holding here.
> > >
> > > I assume I can unload the nVidia driver by issuing
> > >
> > > #modprobe -r /lib/modules/2.6.14-1.1656_FC4smp/updates/drivers/
> > > video/nvidia/nvidia-1_0-7676.ko
> >
> > Or just "rmmod nvidia", "lsmod" will tell you if it's still there or
> > not.
> >
> > > but loading the nv driver, I'm not so sure about.
> > >
> > > Can I just replace the
> > >
> > > Driver "nvidia" line in xorg.conf with, Driver "xv" and restart x?
> >
> > Yes, normally, but I have heard tell of nVidia setups where it still
> > loads nVidia even if you do that. The actual X server is an
> > executable usually linked to "X" (note the cap) someplace like /usr/
> > X11R6/bin (seems like everybody puts it in a different place.
> >
> > That should be "nv" not "xv", I'm assuming that was a typo. "xv" is
> > something completely different.
> >
> > My guess is that if commenting out "load glx" does not work then
> > loading "nv" instead of nvidia will not work either, but you never know.

which GPU card?
whats your xorg.conf have for loading the nvidia driver?
does the issue occur when you playback 1080i content at 1/2 size?

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Re: [mythtv-users] Still Can't Get pcHDTV-3000 Installed

[Brian Wood]

On Jan 11, 2006, at 7:19 PM, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
>
>>
> I've tried again and finally figured out that by selecting this:
>
> Device-drivers ->
>
>   Multimedia devices ->
>
> [-] Video for Linux ->
>   Video for Linux ->
> Video Adapters
> [-] Conexant 2388x (bt878 successor) support
> (CONFIG_VIDEO_CX88=m)
>   [-] DVB support for cx2388x based TV Cards
> (CONFIG_VIDEO_CX88_DVB=m)
>
> Digital Video Broadcasting Devices ->
>   [-] DVB for Linux(DVB=m)
> [-] DVB Core Support   (DVB_CORE=m)
>
> This is selected automatically:
>
>   Customize DVB Frontends ->
> [-] Conexant cx22702 demodulator (OFDM)(DVB_CX22702=m)
> [-] OR51132 based (pcHDTV HD3000 card) (DVB_OR51132=m)
>
> Now I finally have a cx88-dvb module to load.  However when I try  
> using
> 'modprobe -v', I get a bunch of this:
>
> insmod
> /lib/modules/2.6.13-gentoo-r5/kernel/drivers/media/dvb/frontends/ 
> dvb-pll.ko
> WARNING: Error inserting dvb_pll
> (/lib/modules/2.6.13-gentoo-r5/kernel/drivers/media/dvb/frontends/ 
> dvb-pll.ko):
> Invalid module format
> insmod
> /lib/modules/2.6.13-gentoo-r5/kernel/drivers/media/dvb/frontends/ 
> cx22702.ko
> WARNING: Error inserting cx22702
> (/lib/modules/2.6.13-gentoo-r5/kernel/drivers/media/dvb/frontends/ 
> cx22702.ko):
> Invalid module format
>
> So what am I missing now?
>
I thought I read somewhere that you couldn't have the v4l and the dvb  
stuff at the same time. I think it's OK to have the "DVB for Linux"  
and "DVB Core" as modules but the frontends will conflict, because  
you have DVB from the cx2388x and from the DVB section.

This may resolve when the v4l and DVB stuff is all merged into the  
kernel but I'm sure you don't want to wait that long.

 From the Gentoo MythTV HowTo:

"You can only load either the DVB or Video 4 Linux drivers, but not  
both".

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Re: [mythtv-users] Questionaire: What do you have your casepowerbutton do?

[Steve Adeff]

On Wednesday 11 January 2006 18:01, James C. Dastrup wrote:
> >>Also, mythfrontend runs from a script which starts it in a loop. So if it
> >> ever crashes (which it rarely ever does), or if someone accidentally
> >> exits out of it (more likely), it starts right back up.
> >
> >Could you possibly post that script your're using to make the frontend
> > restart when exited/crashed? I've been just browsing around trying to
> > guess how to do it, but havn't really searched hard enough :). Thanks.
>
> Sure. Here it is.
>
> #!/bin/bash
> #myth.sh
> #This script starts the MythTranscode Daemon and
> #start mythfrontend in a loop, in case it closes
> #
> sudo mtd -d
> while [ /bin/true ]
> do
> sudo killall mythfrontend
> sudo mythfrontend
> sleep 2
> done

will this catch when mythfrontend crashes but X doesn't close out?

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Re: [mythtv-users] question about RAID

[Steve Adeff]

On Wednesday 11 January 2006 19:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 08:18:12AM +0900, David Bennett wrote:
> > Here here! I second that.,.. can -F be added after an array is created?
>
> The -F option isn't "added" to the array.  It's a mdadm run-time
> argument that tells it to check the array for errors.  The -F option
> isn't useful (and may even be illegal) during the array creation phase.
>
> You would typically either create a cron job that does
>   /sbin/mdadm -F -s -1
> periodically, or more typically you would have a system start-up script
> that runs
>   /sbin/mdadm -F -s -f -i /var/run/mdadm.pid -m root
>
> The first version tells mdadm to check the array only once, and output
> the status on stdout (which cron then emails to the crontab owner).  The
> second version tells mdadm to daemonize (-f) using the specified pidfile
> (-i /path/to/pidfile) and explicity provides an email address (-m root)
> for the resulting status messages.
>
> In both cases, the -s option tells mdadm to look for *all* RAID devices
> even if they aren't in the config file.

which would be why it wouldn't let me use it... and the Debian mdadm package 
comes with a init.d script for mdadm monitoring which makes all that stuff 
easy.

one thing I will note, is to remember to make the partition type "Linux raid 
autodetec" in cfdisk for the partitions you will use in the array.

and I logged my lessons to a RAID writeup on the wiki, 
http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/RAID

please look over it and make any corrections/changes that need to be done.

-- 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Still Can't Get pcHDTV-3000 Installed

[Drew Tomlinson]

On 1/8/2006 12:16 PM Drew Tomlinson wrote:

> On 1/1/2006 9:05 AM Drew Tomlinson said the following:
>
>> I have MythTV 0.18.1 running with a PVR-250 card.  About two months 
>> ago, I added a pcHDTV-3000 card but still can't figure out how it get 
>> it recognized by the OS.  I'm running 2.6.13-r5 on Gentoo.  At one 
>> point, someone here told me all I had to do was select the DVB 
>> modules and re-compile
>
>
>
> Thanks for all the suggestions.  I don't have time to work with this 
> right now but when I do, I'll post my results.  Hopefully in a week or 
> so.
>
I've tried again and finally figured out that by selecting this:

Device-drivers ->

  Multimedia devices ->

[-] Video for Linux ->
  Video for Linux ->
Video Adapters
[-] Conexant 2388x (bt878 successor) support   (CONFIG_VIDEO_CX88=m)
  [-] DVB support for cx2388x based TV Cards   
(CONFIG_VIDEO_CX88_DVB=m)

Digital Video Broadcasting Devices ->
  [-] DVB for Linux(DVB=m)
[-] DVB Core Support   (DVB_CORE=m)

This is selected automatically:

  Customize DVB Frontends ->
[-] Conexant cx22702 demodulator (OFDM)(DVB_CX22702=m)
[-] OR51132 based (pcHDTV HD3000 card) (DVB_OR51132=m)

Now I finally have a cx88-dvb module to load.  However when I try using 
'modprobe -v', I get a bunch of this:

insmod 
/lib/modules/2.6.13-gentoo-r5/kernel/drivers/media/dvb/frontends/dvb-pll.ko
WARNING: Error inserting dvb_pll 
(/lib/modules/2.6.13-gentoo-r5/kernel/drivers/media/dvb/frontends/dvb-pll.ko): 
Invalid module format
insmod 
/lib/modules/2.6.13-gentoo-r5/kernel/drivers/media/dvb/frontends/cx22702.ko
WARNING: Error inserting cx22702 
(/lib/modules/2.6.13-gentoo-r5/kernel/drivers/media/dvb/frontends/cx22702.ko): 
Invalid module format

So what am I missing now?

Thanks,

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Re: [mythtv-users] Revised MythTV Subversion ebuilds for Gentoo available

[Drew Tomlinson]

On 1/11/2006 5:44 PM Scott Alfter wrote:

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>
>Drew Tomlinson wrote:
>  
>
>>On 1/10/2006 9:59 AM Scott Alfter wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The MythTV Subversion ebuild I obtained from Gentoo Bugzilla won't build 
>>>MythTV
>>>with FireWire support because the dependencies are incorrect/outdated.  I 
>>>don't
>>>know if someone else has put up an updated ebuild somewhere else already, but
>>>here's what I'm now using:
>>>
>>>http://alfter.us/files/mythtv-svn-ebuilds.tar.bz2
>>>  
>>>
>>I'm currently running 0.18-r2 from the regular portage tree.  I also 
>>have MythDVD, MythGallery, MythWeather, MythMusic, MythWeb, & 
>>MythStreamTV plugins installed.  I'd like to try SVN as I've read about 
>>lots of nice features.  Do I need to unemerge the old before emerging 
>>your mythtv-svn?
>>
>>
>
>Yes.  You also need to have dev-util/subversion installed to fetch the files
>(but that should be obvious).
>  
>

Nothing is obvious to me.  :)  I'm glad you pointed that out.

>Another consideration is that once you upgrade, you won't be able to downgrade
>to 0.18 without dumping the database and restoring it from a backup made before
>the upgrade.  (Doing this, of course, will lose any activity since the
>upgrade.)  The behind-the-scenes tools that upgrade the database schema from
>one version to the next are one-way.
>  
>

Thank you again!  I'll be sure to dump MySQL before I upgrade.

>I've also made another change to the ebuilds.  The MythTV ebuild had an
>override with which you could download and build a particular revision, but the
>various plugins didn't have this capability.  I've pushed that override into
>the mythtv-svn eclass, so your add-ons will come from the same revision.  Add
>MYTHTV_SVN_REVISION=$num to /etc/make.conf and all of the ebuilds will pull
>revision $num.  Leave it out and you'll get whatever is most recent.
>  
>

This sounds like a nice feature.  Any recommendations for a stable 
revision?  I would like the new features but am not skilled enough to 
deal with weird breakage.  (I know, then I should just stay with stable 
releases...)

Thanks,

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Re: [mythtv-users] ALSA and onboard sound card (ASUS A8V Deluxe with VIA K8T800Pro)

[Steve Adeff]

On Wednesday 11 January 2006 16:21, Joacim J wrote:
> On 1/11/06, Steve Adeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wednesday 11 January 2006 15:49, Joacim J wrote:
> > > It has a onboard Realtek ALC850 8-channels CODEC with S/PDIF.
> > > When shutting down the sound server in FC4 as described in Jarods
> > > guide the 5.1 sound disappears.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have this motherboard and using ALSA with S/PDIF? If so
> > > can you post your .asoundrc file?
> > >
> > > My is taken from
> > > http://alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=VIA&card=
> > >VIA+
> > > southbridge+AC97+audio.&chip=VIA82C686%2C+VIA8233%2C+VIA8233A%2C+VIA823
> > >5%2C+ VIA8237&module=via82xx and looks like:
> > > pcm.via82xx {
> > >type hw
> > >card 0
> > > }
> > >
> > > ctl.via82xx {
> > >type hw
> > >card 0
> > > }
> > > --
> > > Regards
> > > Joacim
> >
> > http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Asoundrc_alc850
> >
>
> Thanks Steve, I will try it tomorrow when my children not are sleeping ;-)
> Best Regards
> Joacim

I don't really understand the problem, as far as shutting down the server, but 
that asound will work, and if you have further problems let the list know...

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Re: [mythtv-users] Gentoo, MythWeather, & 0.18-r2 (Was: Revised MythTV Subversion ebuilds for Gentoo available)

[Drew Tomlinson]

On 1/11/2006 5:11 PM W.Kenworthy wrote:

>Hi Drew, how did you get mythweather working with -r2?  I tried a couple
>of weeks ago and emerge didnt want to install mythweather etc.
>  
>

I didn't do anything special.  It was upgraded in an 'emerge --update 
world' run as I recall.

Cheers,

Drew


>On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 16:14 -0800, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
>...
>  
>
>>I'm currently running 0.18-r2 from the regular portage tree.  I also 
>>have MythDVD, MythGallery, MythWeather, MythMusic, MythWeb, & 
>>MythStreamTV plugins installed.  I'd like to try SVN as I've read about 
>>
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Re: [mythtv-users] 1080i content and xv

[Chris Ribe]

Neither of them worked, unfortunately.  

Using the nv driver resulted in a slightly different version of the same problem.  

Perhaps it is a peculiarity in the transport stream from the cable box,
perhaps a newer video card would help.  I guess I'll just keep
plugging away and see if I can figure something out.  Thanks for
your help. On 1/11/06, Brian Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Jan 11, 2006, at 6:35 PM, Chris Ribe wrote:> Sorry, I need a little hand holding here.>> I assume I can unload the nVidia driver by issuing>> #modprobe -r /lib/modules/2.6.14-1.1656_FC4smp/updates/drivers/
> video/nvidia/nvidia-1_0-7676.koOr just "rmmod nvidia", "lsmod" will tell you if it's still there ornot.>> but loading the nv driver, I'm not so sure about.>
> Can I just replace the>> Driver "nvidia" line in xorg.conf with, Driver "xv" and restart x?Yes, normally, but I have heard tell of nVidia setups where it stillloads nVidia even if you do that. The actual X server is an
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Re: [mythtv-users] Slightly OT: receiver input buzzing/humming

[Steve Adeff]

On Wednesday 11 January 2006 16:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 12:38:56 -0500
> > From: Steve Adeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > On Wednesday 11 January 2006 10:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > After I posted the message, however, I started reading about SPDIF
> > > and digital audio IO.  Looks like my 7NIF2 lacks the SPDIF header
> > > on the motherboard.  But I *do* have a Creative SoundBlaster Live
> > > in my pile of old components.  It's pretty old, but it does have
> > > digital out.
> > >
> > > I'm guessing that a digital cable would not be affected by
> > > grounding problems, right?  Or at least any grounding effects would
> > > not be audible?
> >
> > optical connection yes, coaxial no, since coax still uses a ground
> > which would link the two grounds together. I'd also suggest using a
> > smaller ground wire, 14 or 16, so that if there is a ground fault it
> > will want to travel down the components natural ground instead of
> > flowing through the other component. As well, if you receiver does
> > not have a ground prong then definitely ground it manually with a 12g
> > to the wall socket ground!
>
> Eh?  If he's sending digital information down the coax, then no amount
> of ground hum will be audible at the receiver, until the hum is so bad
> it starts flipping bits in the data stream (at which point, he'll hear
> either silence or godawful artifacts, depending on the protocol---but
> it sure won't be 60 Hz hum).
>
> Sure, if the problem is ground loops, then anything which can
> spuriously tie grounds together is a problem. But given the
> randomly-interconnected nature of computer hardware (much less stereo
> hardware), trying for a true single-point ground as it done in, e.g.,
> lab instrumentation amps is infeasible.  If the coax is supposedly the
> -only- source of ground interconnection, then going to an optical
> interconnect might help, but that's a fragile solution.
>
> It's ambiguous from the original poster's comment whether the problem
> is new, or he's just started noticing it.  My guess, if the latter, is
> that the shield on some cable got damaged, or something was recently
> changed in the hardware configuration elsewhere (new component? new
> cable?), and certainly replacing cables is the easier & quickest way
> to debug that.  If he has another way of producing audio, I'd also try
> substituting that at the end of the cable, once the cable is known
> good.  (After all, it -could- be that some filter cap in the sound
> board on the computer blew or is getting leaky; such things do
> happen.)
>
> While experimenting with tying chassis grounds together might be
> interesting, not all components use that as their signal-ground
> reference (though most do).  It might make more sense to try, just as
> an experiment, putting all components on a single outlet strip, so you
> know they're on the same phase and circuit.  (I've seen strange currents
> induced on so-called power grounds when different phases meet through
> equipment, especially in older structures with poor wiring [which is
> one reason why certain lab and audio gear keep chassis ("power") and
> signal grounds rigorously separate], and it's always possible that a
> ground or connection somewhere has gotten ohmic and therefore there's
> a voltage difference around that, in theory, can't exist.)

you've obvously not deallt much with audio equipment ground problems. A ground 
loop hum/buzz will work its way from the input ground to the output ground to 
the amp ground, etc, etc. causing hum in the output. Usually the hum will 
increase in volume as the preamp volume is turned up, depending on the 
topology, and can be a good way to tell if its a ground hum or powerline hum.

All good home theatre equipment will have at least 1 screw that is an external 
ground point for helping to solve ground loop problems, though really they 
are (or "were") there to ground record player arms back when people knew what 
vinyl was.

Yes, connecting both peices of equipment to a good filtered power strip 
(Panamax, Belkin PureAV, NOT Monster) will be the best way to solve the 
problem, but may not always work, if the hum is coming from, say, a cable 
line, or failing capacitor...

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Re: [mythtv-users] Partly OT - recording DCT-6412 content via firewire onto Linux box.

[N Dugas]

N Dugas wrote:
> N Dugas wrote:
> 
>>Steve Adeff wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Wednesday 11 January 2006 12:19, N Dugas wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
Steve Adeff wrote:



>On Tuesday 10 January 2006 22:39, N Dugas wrote:
>
>
>
>>Steve Adeff wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>On Monday 09 January 2006 22:03, N Dugas wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
Hi all,

I've managed to get my Gentoo box (new Myth box in process of being
built) to be able to see my DCT-6412.  Recently, I recorded a PPV and
would like to x-fer it to my PC to offload some PVR content (to make
space for my series recordings).  Until now, I've been able to play
back the content and use test-mpeg2 to record it.  With this PPV, I
get a 0 length file.  For fun, I stoped playback of my PPV recording
and changed channel.  The file size started increasing.  Is there a
way for me to tell if my recording is protected and therefore will not
play over the firewire port?

On the same note, could I record a PPV when I order it with Myth
instead of on my 6412?

Thanks,
Norm
>>>
>>>Have the channel/recording you want to extract playing, Power off, hit
>>>select immediately, go to d11 and see what 5C is set to, only 0 will let
>>>you transfer over firewire to a PC. You might be able to transfer a live
>>>PPV while a recorded one you can't as well...
>>>
>>>You won't be able to take advantage of dual tuner over firewire, as all
>>>firewire does it output what you send to the TV, so your best off with a
>>>single tuner HDTV cablebox and no DVR functionality for Myth use.
>>
>>I tried the process you mentionned but it only works when I'm using the
>>tuners.  When using the PVR, nothing happens when  I press select.  I'm
>>going to assume that I can't transfer it to my linux box and press on
>>with my myth install.
>>
>>One thing I've noticed is the same thing that others have reported...
>>inconsistent captures using test-mpeg2.  Sometimes it works, somtimes
>>not.  Something else to look at but only after I get myth running (most
>>likely tomorrow night I'll have more time to set it up).
>
>so when you play back a recording you get no stream via firewire? sounds
>like it enabled 5C for recorded shows.
>
>as for the inconsistency, does it quit randomly while transfering data or
>you loose connection randomly between trasnfers?

What I've noticed is that it either works or it doesn't.  There's not
stopping in mid-capture unless I try to play back the PPV in question.
I've started verifying the oPCR setting and I'll be keeping track of
them to see when it captures and doesn't capture.

I tried to capture again with the test-mpeg2 from libiec61883 0.1.0
tarball and I ran into the same "File size limit exceeded" issue.  I'm
now thinking it's not a filesystem issue but a header file definition
setting the file size limit to 32 bits.  I did some digging around and I
may need to enable largefile via a CFLAG option.

Norm
>>>
>>>
>>>strange, someone else mentioned more than one version of test-mpeg2, this 
>>>may 
>>>be it too, using different versions...
>>>
>>>So it sounds like your having the same issue with capturing as other DCT 
>>>users. As soon as I can get a dev to help me write a test patch for us we 
>>>may 
>>>be able to test a fix for this...
>>>
>>
>>I don't know if this has any bearing but from memory, lspci reports that 
>>my firewire card is an Agere FW623 (rev 61).  I may be slightly off on 
> 
> Oops, make that FW323.  I'll include an lspci tonight.
> 
> 
>>the revision number though.  I'll have to check tonight.  It's a 3 port 
>>firewire card.  On a reboot, my DCT-6412 always reports on node 1 but if 
>>I unplug and replug it, it will show up on node 0 depending on which 
>>port I am using on the PC (I'm trying to see if there is any impact on 
>>operation with different ports).
>>
>>Is there any additional info I can provide that may help with 
>>development of a patch?

Here's an lspci:
# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AGP (different version?) 
(rev a2)
00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 1 (rev a2)
00:00.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 4 (rev a2)
00:00.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 3 (rev a2)
00:00.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 2 (rev a2)
00:00.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 5 (rev a2)
00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 ISA Bridge (rev a4)
00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller (rev a4)
00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller (rev a4)
00:02.2 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller (rev a4)
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Re: [mythtv-users] Hauppauge PVR Questions

[Steve Adeff]

On Wednesday 11 January 2006 16:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:31:36 -0500
> > From: "Michael T. Dean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > The 150 is a better card (it even has a potential to give a better
> > picture quality than the 250) and saves you money.
>
> bmayland (CC'ed) started a thread on 15 June 2005 showing dramatic
> differences in sharpness between the two cards, with the 250 winning.
> He also said he'd do some more experimentation; Bryan, did you come
> up any any further results?  (I'm particularly interested in RF-in,
> but I also use composite-in.)
>
> Also, ivtv can't do NTSC sliced VBI closed-captioning on the 150/500
> yet, because Hans and the rest of the ivtv crew haven't been able to
> reverse-engineer that part so far.  The 250/350 do it just fine.
>
> (If the sharpness and CC differences between the 250/350 series and
> the 150/500 series get resolved, then my next purchase will be a 500,
> but until then, I'm going to waste PCI slots and get 250's since
> they'll work better for me.  Assuming, of course, they're still being
> made at that point---I sure hope so.)

is the sharpness issue with the tuner or do the svideo/component inputs have 
the same issue?

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Re: [mythtv-users] How to KEEP mythtv running when user exits

[John Biundo]

Brad Fuller wrote:
>>All you need to do is tell the front end that the key to quit the front
>>end is different from the "exit" key. This is done by going to
>>Settings->General, and on the 4th screen, the top item ("System Exit
>>Key"), change the key that is used to exit the front end to something
>>other than Esc.

Yup, this one did it for me.  Don't know how I ran by that setting so 
many times!

Thanks.
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Re: [mythtv-users] 1080i content and xv

[Brian Wood]

On Jan 11, 2006, at 6:35 PM, Chris Ribe wrote:

> Sorry, I need a little hand holding here.
>
> I assume I can unload the nVidia driver by issuing
>
> #modprobe -r /lib/modules/2.6.14-1.1656_FC4smp/updates/drivers/ 
> video/nvidia/nvidia-1_0-7676.ko

Or just "rmmod nvidia", "lsmod" will tell you if it's still there or  
not.
>
> but loading the nv driver, I'm not so sure about.
>
> Can I just replace the
>
> Driver "nvidia" line in xorg.conf with, Driver "xv" and restart x?

Yes, normally, but I have heard tell of nVidia setups where it still  
loads nVidia even if you do that. The actual X server is an  
executable usually linked to "X" (note the cap) someplace like /usr/ 
X11R6/bin (seems like everybody puts it in a different place.

That should be "nv" not "xv", I'm assuming that was a typo. "xv" is  
something completely different.

My guess is that if commenting out "load glx" does not work then  
loading "nv" instead of nvidia will not work either, but you never know.
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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X & MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

[Brad DerManouelian]

On Jan 11, 2006, at 8:22 PM, David Snider wrote:

>
> On Jan 10, 2006, at 6:17 PM, Jens Baumeister wrote:
>
>> On 1/11/06, Jens Baumeister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> No, sorry, I don't, as I currently use the frontend build without  
>>> the
>>> plugins. (IIRC it always crashed upon launch - I
>>
>> Clarifying myself here: The "thesniderpad.com" build *with* the
>> frontend crashes for me - that's why I use the one wihtout the
>> plugins.
>>
> Well, that's a bummer.  It sounds like we have a mixture of people
> who it works for and who it doesn't.   I did compile a new 0.18.1
> with plugins today.  I replaced the one on my site with that build.
> I tested it on my Mac Mini and it worked like a charm.  That probably
> doesn't say much though, since the last one did too..   For those of
> you who can't get it working, let me know.  I'd be interested to see
> the output of uname -a, env, set, contents of .profile and others...
> The more information the better.
>
> Anyway, if anybody wants to try again, the new build of 0.18.1 is @
> http://www.thesniderpad.com/index.php?
> option=com_remository&Itemid=36&func=select&id=2 Feedback as usual is
> always appreciated.

This didn't work for me. I'm running a straight-up 0.18.1 backend. It  
looks like this was compiled with some other branch. Version claims  
"0.18.2, MythTV project, www.mythtv.org"

However, your 0.18.1 without plugins works ok for me.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Hauppauge PVR Questions

[John Biundo]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> bmayland (CC'ed) started a thread on 15 June 2005 showing dramatic
> differences in sharpness between the two cards, with the 250 winning.
> He also said he'd do some more experimentation; Bryan, did you come
> up any any further results?  (I'm particularly interested in RF-in,
> but I also use composite-in.)
> 
This is a timely thread for me.

I've monitored this list for a while, and the two conflicting, generally 
prevailing, opinions I've picked up are summarized neatly in this thread as:

- The 150/250/500 exhibit indistinguishable picture quality
- The 250 has noticeably better picture quality than the 150

I've just deployed my first myth (FE/BE) box, with much joy, 
congratulations and success.  Two things have become immediately obvious 
to us:

- We need a second tuner
- Out of the box, the picture quality from my PVR-150 system doesn't 
equal broadcast quality (of my SD analog cable system) for "fast moving" 
TV, most notably sports.  Emphasis on "out of the box", since I've done 
almost nothing to try to improve the quality.

So I'm trying to learn more than I ever thought I'd need to know about 
how to tune the picture.  I've got a lot to learn: interlacing, filters, 
and a slew of other knobs and buttons to tweak.

In the meantime, I'm anxious to order a second tuner, since we suddenly 
have all kinds of conflicts between live TV and programs we want to 
record, that we never had before.

Sorry for the long-winded background.

Bottom line, I too would be very glad to hear more input on the quality 
of the various cards available, and keenly interested in comments 
relative to "fast moving" scenes.

I'd also be very happy to discover the definitive "How to tune your 
PVR-150 based MythTV system for Dummies" reference!  As usual with this 
stuff (and it *is* both the allure and the curse), it seems like you've 
got to dig down to bedrock before you can work your way back up to the 
surface and figure out which settings to tweak.  I sure wish there were 
"recipes" with cross referenced background material.

Cheers,
john


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Re: [mythtv-users] Revised MythTV Subversion ebuilds for Gentoo available

[Scott Alfter]

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Drew Tomlinson wrote:
> On 1/10/2006 9:59 AM Scott Alfter wrote:
>>The MythTV Subversion ebuild I obtained from Gentoo Bugzilla won't build 
>>MythTV
>>with FireWire support because the dependencies are incorrect/outdated.  I 
>>don't
>>know if someone else has put up an updated ebuild somewhere else already, but
>>here's what I'm now using:
>>
>>http://alfter.us/files/mythtv-svn-ebuilds.tar.bz2
> 
> I'm currently running 0.18-r2 from the regular portage tree.  I also 
> have MythDVD, MythGallery, MythWeather, MythMusic, MythWeb, & 
> MythStreamTV plugins installed.  I'd like to try SVN as I've read about 
> lots of nice features.  Do I need to unemerge the old before emerging 
> your mythtv-svn?

Yes.  You also need to have dev-util/subversion installed to fetch the files
(but that should be obvious).

Another consideration is that once you upgrade, you won't be able to downgrade
to 0.18 without dumping the database and restoring it from a backup made before
the upgrade.  (Doing this, of course, will lose any activity since the
upgrade.)  The behind-the-scenes tools that upgrade the database schema from
one version to the next are one-way.

I've also made another change to the ebuilds.  The MythTV ebuild had an
override with which you could download and build a particular revision, but the
various plugins didn't have this capability.  I've pushed that override into
the mythtv-svn eclass, so your add-ons will come from the same revision.  Add
MYTHTV_SVN_REVISION=$num to /etc/make.conf and all of the ebuilds will pull
revision $num.  Leave it out and you'll get whatever is most recent.

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Re: [mythtv-users] 1080i content and xv

[Chris Ribe]

Sorry, I need a little hand holding here.  

I assume I can unload the nVidia driver by issuing 

#modprobe -r /lib/modules/2.6.14-1.1656_FC4smp/updates/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidia-1_0-7676.ko

but loading the nv driver, I'm not so sure about.

Can I just replace the 

Driver "nvidia" line in xorg.conf with, Driver "xv" and restart x?  On 1/11/06, Chad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:On 1/11/06, Chris Ribe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:> I'll give xine a try, but I'd still like to get playback working with MythTV> (not MythVideo).>> I'm fairly certain the problem isn't with my display. (480i content works> fine, FWIW).  I'm using the VGA out to my computer monitor, running at a
> resolution of 1600x1200.>> I'll give xine a try, but I believe the problem is with the nVidia driver.You could always unload the driver, load the xorg 'nv' driver, andthen try xv.  It would help you to narrow down your problem.
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[mythtv-users] Washed out colours.

[Joseph Faisal Nusairat]

I noticed the colours seem pretty washed out.

Is that because of the video card more or the PVR-150??
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Re: [mythtv-users] Odds of Linux CableCARD support?

[Joe Votour]

--- H P Ladds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Would it read "DENIED" and "thank you for your
> $100,000.00"
> application fee? Or is that a bogus tale I heard
> about the cost of
> application.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/11/06, Joe Votour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > --- H P Ladds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > " The cable companies will wind up killing
> shooting
> > >  themselves in the foot if they're not careful.
> > > IPTV
> > >  over DSL using MPEG-4 is steadily catching up."
> > >
> > > Will IPTV help us? The consortium of content
> > > producers (CableLabs)
> > > will still demand that the content be encrypted.
> > > Linux and Open Source need not apply for
> approval?
> > >
> > > Still, I'm with you, someone shot has themselves
> in
> > > the foot. The
> > > content producers just handed control of a large
> > > portion of their
> > > distribution channel to Microsoft -- I wish them
> the
> > > best of luck in
> > > trying to get it back.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > 
> >


Most likely.

I don't know what the fees are for CableCARD (I
couldn't find them in the price list), but I would
guess somewhere between $50,000 to $100,000 based on
the other prices (which have come down from previous
years).

Check out the application fees yourself (no
CableCARD):
http://www.cablemodem.com/downloads/2006Pricing.pdf

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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X & MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

[Michael Fox]

On 1/12/06, David Snider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Anyway, if anybody wants to try again, the new build of 0.18.1 is @
> http://www.thesniderpad.com/index.php?
> option=com_remository&Itemid=36&func=select&id=2 Feedback as usual is
> always appreciated.
>

I'll make a note to check it out when time permits and let you know
how I go with your build. I just got a 2nd twinhan chipset dvb-t tuner
here in oz, so tonight I am going home to install it and tinker some
more with 2 tuner setup. These cards work so well and for $90.20 AU
each its not bad.
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Re: [mythtv-users] -[S]- mythtvsetup on debian (ubuntu) missing

[John Biundo]

Bret Schuhmacher wrote:
> You sure?  Do
> Find / -name mythtv-setup 
> 
> Should be at /usr/bin/mythtv-setup.
> 

That's where mine is.

Here's what's installed:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-cache policy mythtv
mythtv:
   Installed: 0.18.1-5
   Candidate: 0.18.1-5
   Version table:
  *** 0.18.1-5 0
 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
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Re: [mythtv-users] Revised MythTV Subversion ebuilds for Gentoo available

[Chad]

On 1/11/06, Chad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/11/06, Scott Alfter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Chad wrote:
> > > On 1/10/06, Scott Alfter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> The MythTV Subversion ebuild I obtained from Gentoo Bugzilla won't build
> > >> MythTV with FireWire support because the dependencies are
> > >> incorrect/outdated. I don't know if someone else has put up an updated
> > >> ebuild somewhere else already, but here's what I'm now using:
> > >>
> > >> http://alfter.us/files/mythtv-svn-ebuilds.tar.bz2
> > >
> > > Excellent.  If you reply to that bug report and attach your fix, it
> > > will be more centralized.
> >
> > I considered doing that, but the bug-wranglers apparently have their 
> > panties in
> > a bunch over continued activity on a bug that's marked RESOLVED WONTFIX.
> >
>
> If the myth community wants an SVN ebuild, then they can either
> provide one, or deal with the traffic, IMHO.  I don't see the problem,
> unless it's mis-communication?  If there is anything I (we as a
> group?) can do, I think we should.  Gentoo is a community driven
> distro, not a dictated or corporate driven one.
>
> Chad
>

Ok, this started to bug me a little too much, so I started a thread
over on the Gentoo forums to see if anyone had any input on it:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-422062.html


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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X & MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

[David Snider]

On Jan 10, 2006, at 6:17 PM, Jens Baumeister wrote:

> On 1/11/06, Jens Baumeister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> No, sorry, I don't, as I currently use the frontend build without the
>> plugins. (IIRC it always crashed upon launch - I
>
> Clarifying myself here: The "thesniderpad.com" build *with* the
> frontend crashes for me - that's why I use the one wihtout the
> plugins.
>
Well, that's a bummer.  It sounds like we have a mixture of people  
who it works for and who it doesn't.   I did compile a new 0.18.1  
with plugins today.  I replaced the one on my site with that build.   
I tested it on my Mac Mini and it worked like a charm.  That probably  
doesn't say much though, since the last one did too..   For those of  
you who can't get it working, let me know.  I'd be interested to see  
the output of uname -a, env, set, contents of .profile and others...   
The more information the better.

Anyway, if anybody wants to try again, the new build of 0.18.1 is @  
http://www.thesniderpad.com/index.php? 
option=com_remository&Itemid=36&func=select&id=2 Feedback as usual is  
always appreciated.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Revised MythTV Subversion ebuilds for Gentoo available

[Chad]

On 1/11/06, Scott Alfter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Chad wrote:
> > On 1/10/06, Scott Alfter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> The MythTV Subversion ebuild I obtained from Gentoo Bugzilla won't build
> >> MythTV with FireWire support because the dependencies are
> >> incorrect/outdated. I don't know if someone else has put up an updated
> >> ebuild somewhere else already, but here's what I'm now using:
> >>
> >> http://alfter.us/files/mythtv-svn-ebuilds.tar.bz2
> >
> > Excellent.  If you reply to that bug report and attach your fix, it
> > will be more centralized.
>
> I considered doing that, but the bug-wranglers apparently have their panties 
> in
> a bunch over continued activity on a bug that's marked RESOLVED WONTFIX.
>

If the myth community wants an SVN ebuild, then they can either
provide one, or deal with the traffic, IMHO.  I don't see the problem,
unless it's mis-communication?  If there is anything I (we as a
group?) can do, I think we should.  Gentoo is a community driven
distro, not a dictated or corporate driven one.

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Re: [mythtv-users] -[S]- mythtvsetup on debian (ubuntu) missing

[Bret Schuhmacher]

You sure?  Do
Find / -name mythtv-setup 

Should be at /usr/bin/mythtv-setup.

Rgds,

Bret

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To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: -[S]- [mythtv-users] mythtvsetup on debian (ubuntu) missing

WTFrunning .18 on Ubuntu 5.10 and there is no mythtvsetp.  I need to
change back to zap2it since the pay service went teats up.

?

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Re: [mythtv-users] 1080i content and xv

[Chad]

On 1/11/06, Chris Ribe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'll give xine a try, but I'd still like to get playback working with MythTV
> (not MythVideo).
>
> I'm fairly certain the problem isn't with my display. (480i content works
> fine, FWIW).  I'm using the VGA out to my computer monitor, running at a
> resolution of 1600x1200.
>
> I'll give xine a try, but I believe the problem is with the nVidia driver.

You could always unload the driver, load the xorg 'nv' driver, and
then try xv.  It would help you to narrow down your problem.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Revised MythTV Subversion ebuilds for Gentoo available

[W.Kenworthy]

Hi Drew, how did you get mythweather working with -r2?  I tried a couple
of weeks ago and emerge didnt want to install mythweather etc.

BillK


On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 16:14 -0800, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
...
> I'm currently running 0.18-r2 from the regular portage tree.  I also 
> have MythDVD, MythGallery, MythWeather, MythMusic, MythWeb, & 
> MythStreamTV plugins installed.  I'd like to try SVN as I've read about 
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[mythtv-users] mythtvsetup on debian (ubuntu) missing

[Bill Bradley]

WTFrunning .18 on Ubuntu 5.10 and there is no mythtvsetp.  I
need to change back to zap2it since the pay service went teats up.

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Re: [mythtv-users] 1080i content and xv

[Chris Ribe]

I'll give xine a try, but I'd still like to get playback working with MythTV (not MythVideo).

I'm fairly certain the problem isn't with my display. (480i content
works fine, FWIW).  I'm using the VGA out to my computer monitor,
running at a resolution of 1600x1200.  

I'll give xine a try, but I believe the problem is with the nVidia driver.  

   


On 1/11/06, Brian Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Jan 11, 2006, at 5:08 PM, Chris Ribe wrote:> Can anybody out there playback 1080i content (captured over> Firewire from a DCT-62xx) to a VGA monitor using xv?  I have tried> three different NVidia driver versions, (7667,7676, and 8174) and
> all three exhibit slightly different versions of the same problem.> When playing back 1080i content, the image is split into two - like> having double vision.  It is almost as if one field is being played
> on the left side of the frame while the next plays on the right side.>> The problem is duplicated whether I use VLC, mplayer, or MythTV for> playback.  I can get normal playback if I use the " -vo x11" option
> with mplayer, but then my CPU can't keep up.>> My specs:>> - P4 630> - FC4 w/  smp kernel.> - DCT-620x Firewire capture> - old 32MB GeForce3 video card>
> If anybody has had experience with this problem, any feedback would> be greatly appreciated.  Searching has so far yeilded few results.1080i is an interlaced format (that what the "i" stands for). What
you describe sounds like a progressive display trying to deal withthe interlace and doing a poor job of it. Which output of your nVidiacard are you using (VGA or SVIDEO/Composite)? Does it look OK with 720p?
I know pcHDTV suggests using xine for playback, and I notice that'snot one that you mentioned.I've had good luck with 720p HD video but around here we have onlyone digital OA channel and they don't transmit 1080i very often.
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Re: [mythtv-users] 1080i content and xv

[Brian Wood]

On Jan 11, 2006, at 5:08 PM, Chris Ribe wrote:

> Can anybody out there playback 1080i content (captured over  
> Firewire from a DCT-62xx) to a VGA monitor using xv?  I have tried  
> three different NVidia driver versions, (7667,7676, and 8174) and  
> all three exhibit slightly different versions of the same problem.   
> When playing back 1080i content, the image is split into two - like  
> having double vision.  It is almost as if one field is being played  
> on the left side of the frame while the next plays on the right side.
>
> The problem is duplicated whether I use VLC, mplayer, or MythTV for  
> playback.  I can get normal playback if I use the " -vo x11" option  
> with mplayer, but then my CPU can't keep up.
>
> My specs:
>
> - P4 630
> - FC4 w/  smp kernel.
> - DCT-620x Firewire capture
> - old 32MB GeForce3 video card
>
> If anybody has had experience with this problem, any feedback would  
> be greatly appreciated.  Searching has so far yeilded few results.


1080i is an interlaced format (that what the "i" stands for). What  
you describe sounds like a progressive display trying to deal with  
the interlace and doing a poor job of it. Which output of your nVidia  
card are you using (VGA or SVIDEO/Composite)? Does it look OK with 720p?

I know pcHDTV suggests using xine for playback, and I notice that's  
not one that you mentioned.

I've had good luck with 720p HD video but around here we have only  
one digital OA channel and they don't transmit 1080i very often.

Maybe I'll stay up late and check it out when "Letterman" airs in  
1080i :-)
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Re: [mythtv-users] Revised MythTV Subversion ebuilds for Gentoo available

[Drew Tomlinson]

On 1/10/2006 9:59 AM Scott Alfter wrote:

>-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>
>The MythTV Subversion ebuild I obtained from Gentoo Bugzilla won't build MythTV
>with FireWire support because the dependencies are incorrect/outdated.  I don't
>know if someone else has put up an updated ebuild somewhere else already, but
>here's what I'm now using:
>
>http://alfter.us/files/mythtv-svn-ebuilds.tar.bz2
>
>To enable FireWire support, make sure ieee1394 is among your USE flags.  The
>ebuild pulls in the latest versions of libraw1394, libavc1394, and libiec61883,
>so you'll need to tag them with ~x86 or ~amd64 (as appropriate) in
>/etc/portage/package.keywords.  Unpack the tarball to /usr/local/portage, and
>make sure "PORTDIR_OVERLAY=/usr/local/portage" is in /etc/make.conf.
>  
>

I'm currently running 0.18-r2 from the regular portage tree.  I also 
have MythDVD, MythGallery, MythWeather, MythMusic, MythWeb, & 
MythStreamTV plugins installed.  I'd like to try SVN as I've read about 
lots of nice features.  Do I need to unemerge the old before emerging 
your mythtv-svn?  Would you please provide a brief list of steps for 
this noob?  I'd really appreciate it as I do not want to break my system 
by doing something stupid.

Thanks,

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[mythtv-users] 1080i content and xv

[Chris Ribe]

Can anybody out there playback 1080i content (captured over Firewire
from a DCT-62xx) to a VGA monitor using xv?  I have tried three
different NVidia driver versions, (7667,7676, and 8174) and all three
exhibit slightly different versions of the same problem.  When
playing back 1080i content, the image is split into two - like having
double vision.  It is almost as if one field is being played on
the left side of the frame while the next plays on the right
side.  

The problem is duplicated whether I use VLC, mplayer, or MythTV for
playback.  I can get normal playback if I use the " -vo x11"
option with mplayer, but then my CPU can't keep up.  

My specs:  

- P4 630 
- FC4 w/  smp kernel. 
- DCT-620x Firewire capture
- old 32MB GeForce3 video card 

If anybody has had experience with this problem, any feedback would be
greatly appreciated.  Searching has so far yeilded few results.

Thank You,
Chris

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[mythtv-users] Slightly OT: receiver input buzzing/humming

[f-myth-users]

Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 17:11:10 -0600
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 04:58:36PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> Eh?  If he's sending digital information down the coax, then no
> amount of ground hum will be audible at the receiver, until the
> hum is so bad it starts flipping bits in the data stream (at which
> point, he'll hear either silence or godawful artifacts, depending
> on the protocol---but it sure won't be 60 Hz hum).

How bad is "bad"?  :)  I mean, there's definately noise between the
computer and the receiver.  Will I hear random bits being flipped (I
assume that noise will cause SOME flippage)?  Although I suppose
there's some kind of parity or error correction built in to the
protocol...

If the hum is enough to flip bits (and I doubt it would be), you'd
either hear nothing at all (if the protocol suppresses packets with
errors) or perhaps fuzz (like clipped square waves or a fuzzbox on a
guitar) or perhaps white noise (hiss).  Or all kinds of other things.
But it's very unlikely to sound like hum.  If you take a random MP3
(say) or WAV file and start flipping 1% of the bits, what do you hear?

> supposedly the -only- source of ground interconnection, then going
> to an optical interconnect might help, but that's a fragile
> solution.

What makes it fragile?  Is it because of the point above, that I
might be close to enough bit flipping that I hear garbage?

It's fragile because if the only thing keeping the system working is
keeping two dissimilar grounds separate, then all it takes is one wire
between two components that didn't used to be connected to possibly
connect those grounds and give you your hum back.  That might amount
to adding hardware, or changing what outlet something's plugged into,
or even someone touching the cases of both components simultaneously.
There are loads of sneak paths, and it only takes one.  Better to
eliminate the problem at the source than depend on isolating grounds.

> It's ambiguous from the original poster's comment whether the
> problem is new, or he's just started noticing it.  My guess, if
> the latter, is that the shield on some cable got damaged, or
> something was recently changed in the hardware configuration
> elsewhere (new component? new cable?), and certainly replacing

I *think* it's new.  If it's not, then it's definately worse than it
used to be.  And yes, there were *major* changes---I got a new TV,
and got rid of the VCR and DVD (mythtv makes them obsolete).

Then lots of things might have changed in your cabling, and maybe a
bad shield that was papered-over by some -other-, good shield (hence
good ground) being connected between two things isn't connected any
more---so maybe the problem is that you used to have a better ground
connection between one place and another, and now you don't.

Or maybe the physical strain of unplugging a cable or plugging it back
in broke a marginal solder joint in a shield somewhere.  You see the
point---you're going to have to start swapping cables & so forth
around and see if you can get the hum to move around or vanish.

(You might also try turning off the TV and seeing if you still hear
hum from the stereo.  Instead of being induced ambient powerline hum,
you -could- be getting hum from the flyback transformer or something
else coupling into a signal line somewhere that runs too close to the
TV (and has a bad shield).  This used to be an issue with power supply
transformers, but modern electronics doesn't use transformers in its
power supplies any more.  And if this TV is in fact not a CRT, there's
no flyback, so that's not it either...)

> cables is the easier & quickest way to debug that.  If he has
> another way of producing audio, I'd also try substituting that at
> the end of the cable, once the cable is known good.  (After all,
> it -could- be that some filter cap in the sound board on the
> computer blew or is getting leaky; such things do happen.)

Hmmm... it seems like my sound card is unusually quiet.  Part of the
reason I even noticed this problem is that I have to turn up the
receiver louder than I do for anything else when using my HTPC
(mythtv, xmms, whatever).  Even with PCM cranked, I still have to
turn the volume more than I usually do.

It's possible you're just hearing hum from the soundcard that no
amount of cabling can get rid of---the card itself just might be
hummy, and you never noticed it at lower volumes.  I'd try swapping
cables first, then any other sound output your machine can generate,
including perhaps a different soundcard if you don't have any other
audio outputs available.  (You might also make sure that aslamixer
claims that all your masters are up, and so forth.)

> (I've seen strange currents induced on so-called power grounds
> when different phases meet through equipment, especially in older
   

Re: [mythtv-users] question about RAID

[chris]

On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 08:18:12AM +0900, David Bennett wrote:
> Here here! I second that.,.. can -F be added after an array is created?

The -F option isn't "added" to the array.  It's a mdadm run-time
argument that tells it to check the array for errors.  The -F option
isn't useful (and may even be illegal) during the array creation phase.

You would typically either create a cron job that does
/sbin/mdadm -F -s -1
periodically, or more typically you would have a system start-up script
that runs
/sbin/mdadm -F -s -f -i /var/run/mdadm.pid -m root

The first version tells mdadm to check the array only once, and output
the status on stdout (which cron then emails to the crontab owner).  The
second version tells mdadm to daemonize (-f) using the specified pidfile
(-i /path/to/pidfile) and explicity provides an email address (-m root)
for the resulting status messages.

In both cases, the -s option tells mdadm to look for *all* RAID devices
even if they aren't in the config file.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Hauppauge PVR Questions

[chris]

On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 04:34:09PM -0600, Carl Fongheiser wrote:
> That's not quite true.  You only use the second external slot position if you
> use the extra bracket to get an additional composite/S-video input.  For those
> who are using the tuners, that's not an issue at all.

In addition to which, many generic cases have more PCI blanks than the
mobo will need, and you can put the extra connections in those empty
slots.  The newer AGP design has also moved the AGP slot farther away
from PCI slot #1, so most cases now have a usable blank between them.

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Re: [mythtv-users] support for FusionHDTV5 Lite?

[Mudit Wahal]

Google for "recording high definition from dish". You will get several
website which sell you modified dish boxes. There is a firewire output
port which you can use for recording purposes.

I like to watch "169" format tv in my "time" ;-)

On 1/11/06, Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> QAM tuning for Fusion lite works fine with Myth.  You most likely will not
> pull ESPNHD from it though as that is not a broadcast channel and is
> encrypted.Only way that is happening is with a CableCARD tuner and that
> will probably be so DRMified that Myth support seems unlikely.
>
>
>
>  
>
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Kovacs
>  Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:54 PM
>  To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org
>  Subject: [mythtv-users] support for FusionHDTV5 Lite?
>
>
>
>
> Is there support for QAM tuning using the FusionHDTV5 Lite (or any other
> product like that, which allows for recording channels like ESPN HD)?
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Re: [mythtv-users] question about RAID

[David Bennett]

Here here! I second that.,.. can -F be added after an array is created?


On 1/12/06, Steve Adeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > If you decide to go raid5 then you *must* use mdadm -F (otherwise you
> > may well miss a disk failure - it's easy to do). Of course if you use
> > raid0 this isn't important since you'll spot a drive failure as soon as
> > the system crashes ;)

> David, does add -F after an array is created?
>
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Re: [mythtv-users] SVN mythtranscode

[Byron Poland]

On 1/11/06, Robert Tsai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 11:09:38AM +1300, Robin Gilks wrote:
> > Does Mythtranscode from SVN still support mpeg2 -> mpeg4 (xvid)
> > compression or is it mpeg2 -> mpeg2 lossless only now. I ask as
> > using the -m switch (which should turn ON lossless) creates a file
> > the same size as without it. I'd expect a larger file with it.
>
> I've been using CVS/SVN for almost a year, and have been transcoding
> OTA HD from MPEG2 to MP4. At my settings, my MP4 files are about 25%
> the size of the original MPEG2 file.
>
> > I STILL can't find a way of setting the profile of an EXISTING
> > recording to determine how it gets transcoded using the 'x' command
> > from the playback edit screen.
>
> You're out of luck; there's no UI for it. You could use the MySQL
> command-line or some GUI/web frontend (like phpMyAdmin) to manipulate
> the "transcoder" column of the "recorded" table.
>
> --Rob
>
>
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>
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Hi.. could you share your settings?
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Re: [mythtv-users] support for FusionHDTV5 Lite?

[Rob]

QAM tuning for Fusion lite works fine with
Myth.  You most likely will not pull ESPNHD from it though as that is not a
broadcast channel and is encrypted.    Only way that is happening is with a
CableCARD tuner and that will probably be so DRMified that Myth support seems
unlikely.  

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Kovacs
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006
2:54 PM
To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org
Subject: [mythtv-users] support
for FusionHDTV5 Lite?



 



Is there support for QAM tuning using the FusionHDTV5 Lite (or any
other product like that, which allows for recording channels like ESPN HD)?








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Re: [mythtv-users] Slightly OT: receiver input buzzing/humming

[matthew . garman]

On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 04:58:36PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> Eh?  If he's sending digital information down the coax, then no
> amount of ground hum will be audible at the receiver, until the
> hum is so bad it starts flipping bits in the data stream (at which
> point, he'll hear either silence or godawful artifacts, depending
> on the protocol---but it sure won't be 60 Hz hum).

How bad is "bad"?  :)  I mean, there's definately noise between the
computer and the receiver.  Will I hear random bits being flipped (I
assume that noise will cause SOME flippage)?  Although I suppose
there's some kind of parity or error correction built in to the
protocol...

> supposedly the -only- source of ground interconnection, then going
> to an optical interconnect might help, but that's a fragile
> solution.

What makes it fragile?  Is it because of the point above, that I
might be close to enough bit flipping that I hear garbage?

> It's ambiguous from the original poster's comment whether the
> problem is new, or he's just started noticing it.  My guess, if
> the latter, is that the shield on some cable got damaged, or
> something was recently changed in the hardware configuration
> elsewhere (new component? new cable?), and certainly replacing

I *think* it's new.  If it's not, then it's definately worse than it
used to be.  And yes, there were *major* changes---I got a new TV,
and got rid of the VCR and DVD (mythtv makes them obsolete).

> cables is the easier & quickest way to debug that.  If he has
> another way of producing audio, I'd also try substituting that at
> the end of the cable, once the cable is known good.  (After all,
> it -could- be that some filter cap in the sound board on the
> computer blew or is getting leaky; such things do happen.)

Hmmm... it seems like my sound card is unusually quiet.  Part of the
reason I even noticed this problem is that I have to turn up the
receiver louder than I do for anything else when using my HTPC
(mythtv, xmms, whatever).  Even with PCM cranked, I still have to
turn the volume more than I usually do.

> (I've seen strange currents induced on so-called power grounds
> when different phases meet through equipment, especially in older
> structures with poor wiring [which is one reason why certain lab
> and audio gear keep chassis ("power") and signal grounds
> rigorously separate]

In my embedded systems class in college, my professor had this great
analogy of why you ground signal and power separately: think of
indoor plumbing, and how the toilet output is generally routed
separately from every other drain.  In the case of a backup, you
DON'T want stuff from the toilet coming up!

Thanks!
Matt

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Re: [mythtv-users] Questionaire: What do you have your casepowerbutton do?

[James C. Dastrup]

>>Also, mythfrontend runs from a script which starts it in a loop. So if it 
>>ever crashes
>>(which it rarely ever does), or if someone accidentally exits out of it (more 
>>likely), it 
>>starts right back up.
>
>Could you possibly post that script your're using to make the frontend restart 
>when 
>exited/crashed? I've been just browsing around trying to guess how to do it, 
>but 
>havn't really searched hard enough :). Thanks.
>
 
Sure. Here it is.

#!/bin/bash
#myth.sh
#This script starts the MythTranscode Daemon and
#start mythfrontend in a loop, in case it closes
#
sudo mtd -d
while [ /bin/true ]
do
sudo killall mythfrontend
sudo mythfrontend
sleep 2
done

 
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] SVN mythtranscode

[Robert Tsai]

On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 11:09:38AM +1300, Robin Gilks wrote:
> Does Mythtranscode from SVN still support mpeg2 -> mpeg4 (xvid)
> compression or is it mpeg2 -> mpeg2 lossless only now. I ask as
> using the -m switch (which should turn ON lossless) creates a file
> the same size as without it. I'd expect a larger file with it.

I've been using CVS/SVN for almost a year, and have been transcoding
OTA HD from MPEG2 to MP4. At my settings, my MP4 files are about 25%
the size of the original MPEG2 file.

> I STILL can't find a way of setting the profile of an EXISTING
> recording to determine how it gets transcoded using the 'x' command
> from the playback edit screen.

You're out of luck; there's no UI for it. You could use the MySQL
command-line or some GUI/web frontend (like phpMyAdmin) to manipulate
the "transcoder" column of the "recorded" table.

--Rob


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[mythtv-users] support for FusionHDTV5 Lite?

[Greg Kovacs]

Is there support for QAM tuning using the FusionHDTV5 Lite (or any other product like that, which allows for recording channels like ESPN HD)?
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Re: [mythtv-users] Questionaire: What do you have your case powerbutton do?

[Steve]

Also, mythfrontend runs from a script which starts it in a loop. So if it ever crashes(which it rarely ever does), or if someone accidentally exits out of it (more likely), it
starts right back up.
 
Could you possibly post that script your're using to make the frontend restart when exited/crashed? I've been just browsing around trying to guess how to do it, but havn't really searched hard enough :). Thanks.
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Odds of Linux CableCARD support?

[H P Ladds]

Would it read "DENIED" and "thank you for your $100,000.00"
application fee? Or is that a bogus tale I heard about the cost of
application.





On 1/11/06, Joe Votour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> --- H P Ladds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > " The cable companies will wind up killing shooting
> >  themselves in the foot if they're not careful.
> > IPTV
> >  over DSL using MPEG-4 is steadily catching up."
> >
> > Will IPTV help us? The consortium of content
> > producers (CableLabs)
> > will still demand that the content be encrypted.
> > Linux and Open Source need not apply for approval?
> >
> > Still, I'm with you, someone shot has themselves in
> > the foot. The
> > content producers just handed control of a large
> > portion of their
> > distribution channel to Microsoft -- I wish them the
> > best of luck in
> > trying to get it back.
> >
> >
> >
>
> 
>
> You've got the purpose of CableLabs confused.  When
> they're not accepting kickbacks, charging a fortune
> for product certification, and constantly changing
> their specifications without incrementing version
> numbers, they are supposed to be the unified voice of
> the cable operators.  They have nothing to do with the
> content producers.
>
> IPTV is not subject to CableLabs approval, at least
> not in it's current incarnation.  In fact, nothing is
> really subject to CableLabs approval (see the number
> of uncertified DOCSIS 1.0 cable modems about five
> years ago), but if you don't get your products
> CableLabs certified, then you likely won't be allowed
> to bid on contracts put forth by the cable operators.
>
> (Yes, I dislike CableLabs, and I don't hide it.  In my
> view, they really are an incompetent and corrupt
> organization.)
>
> That said, open source hardware or software will never
> get CableLabs approval.  CableLabs reserves the right
> to revoke encryption keys on devices if they are
> compromised (and I'm surprised they didn't revoke
> Motorola's keys when a bunch of their modems were
> cracked - but, Motorola is one of the key players in
> CableLabs).
>
> CableLabs is now much more open than it used to be -
> previously the submission documents required
> membership to view, but they are now freely available
> on the CableLabs website.  These documents show some
> of the requirements for security that CableCARD will
> have to meet:
> http://www.opencable.com/downloads/Host_2.0_DCAA.pdf
> http://www.opencable.com/downloads/CHILA.pdf
>
> From the second document:
> As to each of the Host Devices made under this
> Agreement, Licensee covenants to CableLabs as follows:
> (i) The Host Device, at the time manufactured,
> contains no integrated circuit, ROM, RAM, software or
> other device or functionality that:
>   (1) enables copying or recording of Controlled
> Content, other
> than as permitted by the Compliance Rules or
>   (2) interferes with or disables the ability of a
> Cable Operator to communicate with or disable a
> CableCARD or services being transmitted through a
> CableCARD.
> (ii) At the time of manufacture, it will maintain
> control of content copies consistent with copy control
> instructions or the encryption mode indicator bits
> transmitted with digital signals as specified in the
> OpenCable Specifications.
> (iii) At the time of manufacture, it is designed to
> effectively frustrate tampering and reverse
> engineering directed towards defeating copy protection
> requirements in accordance with the Robustness Rules.
> (iv) At the time of manufacture, it will not transmit
> or decode
> Controlled Content received from the cable television
> transmission without proper authorization from the
> Cable Operator.
> (v) As used in this section 9.2(c), "at the time of
> manufacture" shall mean at the time of manufacture
> of the Host Device and shall also include, but is not
> limited to, any subsequent modifications, upgrades,
> downloads, modules, plug-ins, or attachments to such
> Host Device made by or at the direction of Licensee or
> its Affiliates, or otherwise specifically promoted,
> marketed, distributed by or at the direction of
> Licensee or its Affiliates.
> (vi) Licensee shall not service any licensed product
> that it determines to have been modified after
> manufacture to be non-Compliant.
> << End of CableLabs document>>
>
> So, in short, Open Source will get the big red
> "DENIED" stamp on CableCARD.  Our only hope is reverse
> engineering outside of North America where the patents
> and DMCA don't apply.
>
> -- Joe
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Re: [mythtv-users] Fedora-based diskless frontends -- anybody have one working?

[Joel Anderson]

>> So -- any diskless Fedora success stories?  If so, could you describe what's
> in your pxelinux.cfg, dhcpd.conf, and initrd -- or what else you did to get
> it working?

Pre-FC4 I ended up doing the custom nfsroot capable kernel compile
thing because the RH/FC stuff was pretty much useless, but makes a lot
of extra work overall.  Recently I did have success using
system-config-netboot on FC4, so they seem to have fixed at least the
major issues.  Sorry I don't have any config stuff left, had to scrap
it to rearrange some hardware, but at least there is hope!
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Re: [mythtv-users] Hauppauge PVR Questions

[Carl Fongheiser]

On 1/11/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The 500 will still take up the external slot positionsof 2 PCI slots, even though it only plugs into 1 PCI
slot _per_se_.  So, is it really such an advantage?That's not quite true.  You only use the second external slot position if you use the extra bracket to get an additional composite/S-video input.  For those who are using the tuners, that's not an issue at all.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Static, static, static on every channel

[H P Ladds]

On 1/11/06, Wendy Seltzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/11/06, H P Ladds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Installing Mythtv for the first time -- G.
> >
> > 1st Problem (as indicated by my mythbackend error messages below)
> > seems to be that I don't have the correct encoding set up or the
> > correct codec for my ATI Wonder VE card:
> >
> > 2006-01-11 13:23:35.164 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV
> > 2006-01-11 13:23:35.224 Unknown video codec
> > 2006-01-11 13:23:35.224 Please go into the TV Settings, Recording Profiles
> > and
> > 2006-01-11 13:23:35.224 setup the four 'Software Encoders' profiles.
> > 2006-01-11 13:23:35.224 Assuming RTjpeg for now.
> > 2006-01-11 13:23:35.224 NVR: Error, unknown audio codec
> > 2006-01-11 13:24:16.996 Changing from WatchingLiveTV to None
>
>
> I think these are harmless error messages (not in front of the box right
> now, but I know at least the '...video codec' is).  You can set up the
> profiles under Settings ->TV
>
> Do you get a picture with xawtv?  You might have to tell the card PAL/NTSC,
> easily configured in xawtv.
>
> --Wendy
> --
> http://wendy.seltzer.org/blog/
>
>
Can't get xawtv to run, but tvtime (FC#3) works like a charm.

Truly it seems as if my capture card is not receiving a signal. 
Everything else seems to be great: listing are fine, channels change,
etc.  Oddly I even occasionally get a picture if I run tvtime prior to
running Mythtv. The picture is only of the last station viewed with
Tvtime.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Questionaire: What do you have your case powerbutton do?

[James C. Dastrup]

 
>> But I was wondering, what do other folks use their power button for if not to
>> turn off/suspend their machine?
>
>Mine does a controlled shutdown of the whole machine.
>
 
You must not have small children.  My power and reset button just make a 
clicking sound - cause I disconnected the wires to it! Even my littlest figured 
out 
how to hold the button for 4 seconds to power it off.

It turns on by IR remote, and shuts down cleanly by IR remote. If I have to 
force
it off, I pull the plug.

Also, mythfrontend runs from a script which starts it in a loop. So if it ever 
crashes
(which it rarely ever does), or if someone accidentally exits out of it (more 
likely), it 
starts right back up.
 
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] Has somebody got a *complete* list of dependencies for mythburn?

[Sdk]

On 1/11/06, Thomas R. Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Crew:
>
> I've been trying to get mythburn running.  This appears to be a matter
> of getting it from CVS and then trying to follow a progression of
> bug-stomps reported via various discussion spaces.  I'm having trouble
> doing this, for a couple of reasons strongly tied to my own ignorance
> about how transcoding and DVD burning work, made worse by the scattered
> nature of information about mythburn.
>
> First, which packages/software does mythburn require as prerequisites
> for installation?  Which version of ProjectX, for example? Does someone
> have a comprehensive list, including further dependencies by required
> packages? (for example, ProjectX is either bitching that it needs more
> java libraries from somewhere or other, or it's bitching that it needs
> the means to get them itself, I can't tell which).  I'm installing on
> top of FC4.
>
> Second, can someone briefly describe for me, step-by-step, the process
> that mythburn is implementing?  It would be very useful to know what
> sort of intermediate files/outputs it's expecting from one stage to the
> next, as I have no conceptual map of what series of transformations it's
> trying to make.
>
> Just trying to catch a clue here, but lacking a net.
>
> Best,
> Tb.
>
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This really may not be complete. I'm doing this mostly off the top of
my head and this is my experience with mythburn CVS installing on
Fedora Core 3 as of about 3 weeks ago.
This is the howto I loosely followed when installing.

http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=MythTVBurn_Scripts_HowTo


1) ProjectX .82 ( You may be able to use .90 but youll have to muck
around with the mythburn scripts.
2) Xvfb
3) dvdauthor
4) mjpegtools
5) ImageMagic


For projectx, I made a shell script called /usr/local/bin/projectx
containing the following:
#!/bin/bash
java -jar /usr/local/bin/projectx_dir/ProjectX.jar $@


The projectx_dir above is just a directory where I untarred projectx .82 into.

I followed the instructions on pulling down the latest from CVS, but
instead of mkdir /myth/mythburn, I just did mkdir /myth because I had
trouble with the install script looking for files it couldnt find.

Thats all I remember now.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Hauppauge PVR Questions

[zoiks2004-ivtv]

The 500 will still take up the external slot positions
of 2 PCI slots, even though it only plugs into 1 PCI
slot _per_se_.  So, is it really such an advantage?

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:31:36 -0500
> > From: "Michael T. Dean"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > The 150 is a better card (it even has a
> potential to give a better 
> > picture quality than the 250) and saves you
> money.
> 
> bmayland (CC'ed) started a thread on 15 June 2005
> showing dramatic
> differences in sharpness between the two cards, with
> the 250 winning.
> He also said he'd do some more experimentation;
> Bryan, did you come
> up any any further results?  (I'm particularly
> interested in RF-in,
> but I also use composite-in.)
> 
> Also, ivtv can't do NTSC sliced VBI
> closed-captioning on the 150/500
> yet, because Hans and the rest of the ivtv crew
> haven't been able to
> reverse-engineer that part so far.  The 250/350 do
> it just fine.
> 
> (If the sharpness and CC differences between the
> 250/350 series and
> the 150/500 series get resolved, then my next
> purchase will be a 500,
> but until then, I'm going to waste PCI slots and get
> 250's since
> they'll work better for me.  Assuming, of course,
> they're still being
> made at that point---I sure hope so.)
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Re: [mythtv-users] SVN mythtranscode

[Phill Edwards]

> Does Mythtranscode from SVN still support mpeg2 -> mpeg4 (xvid)
> compression or is it mpeg2 -> mpeg2 lossless only now. I ask as using the
> -m switch (which should turn ON lossless) creates a file the same size as
> without it. I'd expect a larger file with it.

Not an answer but another question, I'm afraid. From what you say am I
right in thinking that the mythtranscode planned for 0.19 allows you
to transcode large MPEG2 --> small MPEG2? That would be great as
0.18.1 doesn't let you do that.

Regards,
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Re: [mythtv-users] Fedora-based diskless frontends -- anybody have oneworking?

[John P. Mitchell]

>
> So -- any diskless Fedora success stories?  If so, could you describe
> what's
> in your pxelinux.cfg, dhcpd.conf, and initrd -- or what else you did to
> get
> it working?

   I have had very recent build of Ubuntu booting diskless with an NFS
root. I will go back and look at my notes and see what I can find and
post it to the list. I cant see why Fedora would be much different. If
I recall correctly, I did have to build a custom kernel with a certain
set of modules compiled into the kernel to make it work.

>
> -spc
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Re: [mythtv-users] Questionaire: What do you have your case power button do?

[Phill Edwards]

> But I was wondering, what do other folks use their power button for if not to
> turn off/suspend their machine?

Mine does a controlled shutdown of the whole machine.
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[mythtv-users] SVN mythtranscode

[Robin Gilks]

Greetings

Does Mythtranscode from SVN still support mpeg2 -> mpeg4 (xvid)
compression or is it mpeg2 -> mpeg2 lossless only now. I ask as using the
-m switch (which should turn ON lossless) creates a file the same size as
without it. I'd expect a larger file with it.

I STILL can't find a way of setting the profile of an EXISTING recording
to determine how it gets transcoded using the 'x' command from the
playback edit screen.

Thanks...

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[mythtv-users] Slightly OT: receiver input buzzing/humming

[f-myth-users]

> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 12:38:56 -0500
> From: Steve Adeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> On Wednesday 11 January 2006 10:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > After I posted the message, however, I started reading about SPDIF
> > and digital audio IO.  Looks like my 7NIF2 lacks the SPDIF header on
> > the motherboard.  But I *do* have a Creative SoundBlaster Live in my
> > pile of old components.  It's pretty old, but it does have digital
> > out.
> >
> > I'm guessing that a digital cable would not be affected by grounding
> > problems, right?  Or at least any grounding effects would not be
> > audible?

> optical connection yes, coaxial no, since coax still uses a ground which 
would 
> link the two grounds together. I'd also suggest using a smaller ground 
wire, 
> 14 or 16, so that if there is a ground fault it will want to travel down 
the 
> components natural ground instead of flowing through the other component. 
As 
> well, if you receiver does not have a ground prong then definitely ground 
it 
> manually with a 12g to the wall socket ground!

Eh?  If he's sending digital information down the coax, then no amount
of ground hum will be audible at the receiver, until the hum is so bad
it starts flipping bits in the data stream (at which point, he'll hear
either silence or godawful artifacts, depending on the protocol---but
it sure won't be 60 Hz hum).

Sure, if the problem is ground loops, then anything which can
spuriously tie grounds together is a problem. But given the
randomly-interconnected nature of computer hardware (much less stereo
hardware), trying for a true single-point ground as it done in, e.g.,
lab instrumentation amps is infeasible.  If the coax is supposedly the
-only- source of ground interconnection, then going to an optical
interconnect might help, but that's a fragile solution.

It's ambiguous from the original poster's comment whether the problem
is new, or he's just started noticing it.  My guess, if the latter, is
that the shield on some cable got damaged, or something was recently
changed in the hardware configuration elsewhere (new component? new
cable?), and certainly replacing cables is the easier & quickest way
to debug that.  If he has another way of producing audio, I'd also try
substituting that at the end of the cable, once the cable is known
good.  (After all, it -could- be that some filter cap in the sound
board on the computer blew or is getting leaky; such things do
happen.)

While experimenting with tying chassis grounds together might be
interesting, not all components use that as their signal-ground
reference (though most do).  It might make more sense to try, just as
an experiment, putting all components on a single outlet strip, so you
know they're on the same phase and circuit.  (I've seen strange currents
induced on so-called power grounds when different phases meet through
equipment, especially in older structures with poor wiring [which is
one reason why certain lab and audio gear keep chassis ("power") and
signal grounds rigorously separate], and it's always possible that a
ground or connection somewhere has gotten ohmic and therefore there's
a voltage difference around that, in theory, can't exist.)
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[mythtv-users] Unpredictable Skip/Fast Forward/Rewind behavior

[David Abrahams]

When I use the fast forward, rewind, skip forward, or skip backward
keys while watching a recording, it's as likely as not that I'll end
up back at the beginning, which makes navigation quite difficult.  Is
this just a plain bug or is there some "technique" I need to learn in
order to make it work better?  I'm running the MacOS frontend built
from SVN, for what it's worth.

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[mythtv-users] Hauppauge PVR Questions

[f-myth-users]

> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:31:36 -0500
> From: "Michael T. Dean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> The 150 is a better card (it even has a potential to give a better 
> picture quality than the 250) and saves you money.

bmayland (CC'ed) started a thread on 15 June 2005 showing dramatic
differences in sharpness between the two cards, with the 250 winning.
He also said he'd do some more experimentation; Bryan, did you come
up any any further results?  (I'm particularly interested in RF-in,
but I also use composite-in.)

Also, ivtv can't do NTSC sliced VBI closed-captioning on the 150/500
yet, because Hans and the rest of the ivtv crew haven't been able to
reverse-engineer that part so far.  The 250/350 do it just fine.

(If the sharpness and CC differences between the 250/350 series and
the 150/500 series get resolved, then my next purchase will be a 500,
but until then, I'm going to waste PCI slots and get 250's since
they'll work better for me.  Assuming, of course, they're still being
made at that point---I sure hope so.)
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[mythtv-users] Hauppauge PVR Questions

[f-myth-users]

> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 20:51:16 +0100
> From: MagicITX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> The 250 is going away.

Can you provide a cite for this?  I don't see anything about it going
away on Hauppauge's website.
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Re: [mythtv-users] ALSA and onboard sound card (ASUS A8V Deluxe with VIA K8T800Pro)

[Joacim J]

Thanks Steve, I will try it tomorrow when my children not are sleeping ;-)
Best Regards
Joacim

On 1/11/06, Steve Adeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wednesday 11 January 2006 15:49, Joacim J wrote:
> > It has a onboard Realtek ALC850 8-channels CODEC with S/PDIF.
> > When shutting down the sound server in FC4 as described in Jarods
> > guide the 5.1 sound disappears.
> >
> > Does anyone have this motherboard and using ALSA with S/PDIF? If so
> > can you post your .asoundrc file?
> >
> > My is taken from
> > http://alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=VIA&card=VIA+
> >southbridge+AC97+audio.&chip=VIA82C686%2C+VIA8233%2C+VIA8233A%2C+VIA8235%2C+
> >VIA8237&module=via82xx and looks like:
> > pcm.via82xx {
> >type hw
> >card 0
> > }
> >
> > ctl.via82xx {
> >type hw
> >card 0
> > }
> > --
> > Regards
> > Joacim
>
> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Asoundrc_alc850
>
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Re: [mythtv-users] ATA 33 fast enough?

[Lonnie Borntreger]

On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 15:50 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have an old P 3 @ 450 mhz slot 1 cpu and an ATA 33 IDE / motherboard
> laying around.  Is this fast enough for PVR 150?  I am considering
> making it a backend with an AMD 1.2 ghz PVR 350 frontend.

I'm running a P3-500 for a backend.  It can record both tuners of a
PVR-500 and stream a recording to a frontend all at the same time with
no problem.  You should have no problem with a single PVR-150.  The PVR
cards do most of the work for you.

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Re: [mythtv-users] ATA 33 fast enough?

[Tom Lichti]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have an old P 3 @ 450 mhz slot 1 cpu and an ATA 33 IDE / motherboard laying 
> around.  Is this fast enough for PVR 150?  I am considering making it a 
> backend with an AMD 1.2 ghz PVR 350 frontend.
>
>
>   
That should work OK for a backend only. I think my original combined 
FE/BE was only a P3 800 with dual 250's.

Tom
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Re: [mythtv-users] Odds of Linux CableCARD support?

[Joe Votour]

--- H P Ladds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> " The cable companies will wind up killing shooting
>  themselves in the foot if they're not careful. 
> IPTV
>  over DSL using MPEG-4 is steadily catching up."
> 
> Will IPTV help us? The consortium of content
> producers (CableLabs)
> will still demand that the content be encrypted. 
> Linux and Open Source need not apply for approval?
> 
> Still, I'm with you, someone shot has themselves in
> the foot. The
> content producers just handed control of a large
> portion of their
> distribution channel to Microsoft -- I wish them the
> best of luck in
> trying to get it back.
> 
> 
> 



You've got the purpose of CableLabs confused.  When
they're not accepting kickbacks, charging a fortune
for product certification, and constantly changing
their specifications without incrementing version
numbers, they are supposed to be the unified voice of
the cable operators.  They have nothing to do with the
content producers.

IPTV is not subject to CableLabs approval, at least
not in it's current incarnation.  In fact, nothing is
really subject to CableLabs approval (see the number
of uncertified DOCSIS 1.0 cable modems about five
years ago), but if you don't get your products
CableLabs certified, then you likely won't be allowed
to bid on contracts put forth by the cable operators.

(Yes, I dislike CableLabs, and I don't hide it.  In my
view, they really are an incompetent and corrupt
organization.)

That said, open source hardware or software will never
get CableLabs approval.  CableLabs reserves the right
to revoke encryption keys on devices if they are
compromised (and I'm surprised they didn't revoke
Motorola's keys when a bunch of their modems were
cracked - but, Motorola is one of the key players in
CableLabs).

CableLabs is now much more open than it used to be -
previously the submission documents required
membership to view, but they are now freely available
on the CableLabs website.  These documents show some
of the requirements for security that CableCARD will
have to meet:
http://www.opencable.com/downloads/Host_2.0_DCAA.pdf
http://www.opencable.com/downloads/CHILA.pdf

>From the second document:
As to each of the Host Devices made under this
Agreement, Licensee covenants to CableLabs as follows:
(i) The Host Device, at the time manufactured,
contains no integrated circuit, ROM, RAM, software or
other device or functionality that:
  (1) enables copying or recording of Controlled
Content, other
than as permitted by the Compliance Rules or
  (2) interferes with or disables the ability of a
Cable Operator to communicate with or disable a
CableCARD or services being transmitted through a
CableCARD.
(ii) At the time of manufacture, it will maintain
control of content copies consistent with copy control
instructions or the encryption mode indicator bits
transmitted with digital signals as specified in the
OpenCable Specifications.
(iii) At the time of manufacture, it is designed to
effectively frustrate tampering and reverse
engineering directed towards defeating copy protection
requirements in accordance with the Robustness Rules.
(iv) At the time of manufacture, it will not transmit
or decode
Controlled Content received from the cable television
transmission without proper authorization from the
Cable Operator.
(v) As used in this section 9.2(c), “at the time of
manufacture” shall mean at the time of manufacture
of the Host Device and shall also include, but is not
limited to, any subsequent modifications, upgrades,
downloads, modules, plug-ins, or attachments to such
Host Device made by or at the direction of Licensee or
its Affiliates, or otherwise specifically promoted,
marketed, distributed by or at the direction of
Licensee or its Affiliates.
(vi) Licensee shall not service any licensed product
that it determines to have been modified after
manufacture to be non-Compliant.
<< End of CableLabs document>>

So, in short, Open Source will get the big red
"DENIED" stamp on CableCARD.  Our only hope is reverse
engineering outside of North America where the patents
and DMCA don't apply.

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Re: [mythtv-users] ALSA and onboard sound card (ASUS A8V Deluxe with VIA K8T800Pro)

[Steve Adeff]

On Wednesday 11 January 2006 15:49, Joacim J wrote:
> It has a onboard Realtek ALC850 8-channels CODEC with S/PDIF.
> When shutting down the sound server in FC4 as described in Jarods
> guide the 5.1 sound disappears.
>
> Does anyone have this motherboard and using ALSA with S/PDIF? If so
> can you post your .asoundrc file?
>
> My is taken from
> http://alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=VIA&card=VIA+
>southbridge+AC97+audio.&chip=VIA82C686%2C+VIA8233%2C+VIA8233A%2C+VIA8235%2C+
>VIA8237&module=via82xx and looks like:
> pcm.via82xx {
>type hw
>card 0
> }
>
> ctl.via82xx {
>type hw
>card 0
> }
> --
> Regards
> Joacim

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Asoundrc_alc850

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