Re: [mythtv-users] Q: Using MythTV as a router
I'll try to answer those: 1) firewall issue. Probably the best bet is to setup an ssh tunnel and pipe the mythtv port through it. You can setup the tunnel with compression which may or may not help with the streaming. 2) remote control. You install the frontend on your laptop or whatever you're watching it on. The frontend will take care of all the interface you need. If you're referring to IrDA remote and such things, you install it in addition to the frontend on your laptop. 3) resolution. You can configure those games to be recorded in low resolution in the first place if you don't plan on watching it again when you get back. You can also transcode to lower resolution, I believe, but I have no experience in that aspect. If I were in your situation, I'd just set it to record at lower bitrate in the first place. Also, since network bandwidth will be an issue, I'd be sure to encode it in MPEG4 rather than MPEG2. ___ John Prefer not to receive HTML mail? Click here. On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Arno Puder wrote: thanks for all your responses. The reason I am interested in realtime streaming is because I want to see live sport events that don't broadcast in my area (Americans don't care much for soccer; sigh). I'm willing to compromise on the quality if I get the feed in realtime. The frontend/backend thing sounds like a proper client/server architecture that does exactly what I'm looking for. What I'm not sure about is (1) firewall issues (2) remote control (3) reduce the resolution of the feed before streaming. Arno --- cfactor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As someone mentions later, it'd be best to pipe the stream through ssh compressed. And as Milos says, I think *streaming* over a dsl line would be pointless. Especially considering most US dsl customers have ADSL with much lower upstream bandwidth. It might be best to just setup a transcoding system so recorded shows automatically get transcoded to a smaller xvid/divx file that you grab over scp/rsync. I actually did this for daily show for nights that I couldn't watch it. It'd reencode at lower resolution and upload to my other machine, constantly keeping the last 5 days worth. ___ John Prefer not to receive HTML mail? Click here. On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Milos Prudek wrote: - run MythTV on a PC without a monitor - capture the video signal and stream it into the Internet. You can do that, but MythTV has no security. Anyone will be able to login (because there is no login) and watch and delete music and launch DoS. You could augment Myth security through firewall that would limit access to a certain IP. - use another machine as a client to watch the stream. The stream is pretty data intensive. 10 MBit is a must. -- Milos Prudek http://www.spoxdesign.com - your web usability testing ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Q: Using MythTV as a router
As someone mentions later, it'd be best to pipe the stream through ssh compressed. And as Milos says, I think *streaming* over a dsl line would be pointless. Especially considering most US dsl customers have ADSL with much lower upstream bandwidth. It might be best to just setup a transcoding system so recorded shows automatically get transcoded to a smaller xvid/divx file that you grab over scp/rsync. I actually did this for daily show for nights that I couldn't watch it. It'd reencode at lower resolution and upload to my other machine, constantly keeping the last 5 days worth. ___ John Prefer not to receive HTML mail? Click here. On Fri, 15 Jul 2005, Milos Prudek wrote: - run MythTV on a PC without a monitor - capture the video signal and stream it into the Internet. You can do that, but MythTV has no security. Anyone will be able to login (because there is no login) and watch and delete music and launch DoS. You could augment Myth security through firewall that would limit access to a certain IP. - use another machine as a client to watch the stream. The stream is pretty data intensive. 10 MBit is a must. -- Milos Prudek http://www.spoxdesign.com - your web usability testing ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Re: Pundit-R SATA drive speed
Even with two conversions, I don't think it'd account for ~75% speed loss. For now, I've put in a PATA drive and am getting 55MB/s. ___ John Prefer not to receive HTML mail? Click here. On Thu, 14 Jul 2005, belcampo wrote: SATA on the motherboard of the Pundit-R is acheived with a PATA2SATA converter, some SATA drives, surely the somewhat older ones use a SATA2PATA converter in which case you do have 2 conversions. The conversion-chip can be recognized by a big M near the SATA connector. Some older drives use the same chip. Henk Schoneveld ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] What's a good mini front-end-only box?
That's why I was specifically mentioning the older Pundit, not the -R. The older Pundit also has better/easier support for the onboard video card and such. It only supports only up to 533MHz FSB, but if you're only using it for frontend, it'll be plenty. If you're in US, I believe zipzoomfly.com still has some in stock. Get the CPU elsewhere, though. I don't know the exact size difference, but I was able to fit in AverMedia M179(PVR 250 clone) and an older bttv card in my Pundit-R. Took about 20 minutes and stubbed fingers, but it's in there. ___ John Prefer not to receive HTML mail? Click here. On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Mark Knecht wrote: On 7/13/05, Reza Naima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i'm currently using an x-box which seems grossly underpowered. does anyone have any suggestions for a good cheap front-end-only box? Something that's good looking. I've got an hdtv w/ vga&dvi inputs. thanks, reza As John mentioned I like my Pundit-Rs. I have 4 of them. Very nice. Reasonable quiet, but not silent. The only problem I'm having with MythTV right now is that I cannot keep the StreamZap remotes I bought working with Myth. The work for a day and then stop. I think this is more an lirc problem but it's an issue you might want to think about before you buy. Anyway, I own 4 and I'd buy 4 more today if I needed to, but ONLY for frontend ONLY. The PVR-xxx cards do not fit in them easily so they are of no value to me as backend machines. SATA performance is low right now. Cheers, Mark ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] What's a good mini front-end-only box?
I'm still battling with the SATA performance with Pundit-R, but you should be able to get an older Pundit barebone for about $130 + cpu/ram/hd. I believe many people here are very satisfied with the older Pundit. ___ John Prefer not to receive HTML mail? Click here. On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Reza Naima wrote: i'm currently using an x-box which seems grossly underpowered. does anyone have any suggestions for a good cheap front-end-only box? Something that's good looking. I've got an hdtv w/ vga&dvi inputs. thanks, reza ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Pundit-R SATA drive speed
I've noticed that as well. I'm also suspecting driver issues, but there
doesn't seem to be a whole lot of information regarding the SATA
controller on this board with linux out there. I'll probably try
downloading the latest vanilla kernel later today to see if they have any
updates.
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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Mark Knecht wrote:
On 7/12/05, cfactor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi all. I'm building a new myth backend. I just got a pundit-r box. I
have a WD SATA HD and IDE CD-ROM connected to it. Running hdparm, I'm
only getting about 14MB/s. DMA is turned on, different multcount options
don't seem to do much. I've seen few reports of it online, but no
solution. What kind of speed are other Pundit-R/SATA users getting?
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John,
I'm getting about the same thing. 12MB/S if I don't mess with
settings. Up to about 14MB/S if I do.
I did notice that my SATA drive doesn't report as many udma modes
as my other drives and is hence set to a slower mode:
myth12 ~ # hdparm -i /dev/hdc
/dev/hdc:
Model=WDC WD1600JD-00HBB0, FwRev=08.02D08, SerialNo=WD-WMAL93597321
Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw>15uSec SpinMotCtl Fixed DTR>5Mbs FmtGapReq }
RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=57600, SectSize=600, ECCbytes=74
BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=8192kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=268435455
IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
DMA modes: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2
UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 *udma2
AdvancedPM=no WriteCache=enabled
Drive conforms to: device does not report version:
* signifies the current active mode
myth12 ~ #
Maybe there's somethign about the current ATI IGP chipset driver that
doesn't do the best at getting speed out of the drives?
- Mark
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Re: [mythtv-users] Pundit-R SATA drive speed
Most documents don't mention it, but Pundit-R supports 1 SATA device as well. The two IDE ports are on the same channel as master and slave(hda and hdb) and the SATA port is on hdc. ___ John Prefer not to receive HTML mail? Click here. On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, John Hanauer wrote: Everything I look at says Pundit-R only supports up to ATA100. On 7/12/05, cfactor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all. I'm building a new myth backend. I just got a pundit-r box. I have a WD SATA HD and IDE CD-ROM connected to it. Running hdparm, I'm only getting about 14MB/s. DMA is turned on, different multcount options don't seem to do much. I've seen few reports of it online, but no solution. What kind of speed are other Pundit-R/SATA users getting? ___ John Prefer not to receive HTML mail? Click here. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
[mythtv-users] Pundit-R SATA drive speed
Hi all. I'm building a new myth backend. I just got a pundit-r box. I have a WD SATA HD and IDE CD-ROM connected to it. Running hdparm, I'm only getting about 14MB/s. DMA is turned on, different multcount options don't seem to do much. I've seen few reports of it online, but no solution. What kind of speed are other Pundit-R/SATA users getting? ___ John Prefer not to receive HTML mail? Click here. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
