RE: [mythtv-users] ALSA Sound and Video Modes

2005-08-01 Thread Brandon Rogers
Yup

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Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 9:34 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] ALSA Sound and Video Modes

Do you have 'IEC958 Output' turned on in Alsamixer?

Mike Ford

On Sunday 31 July 2005 8:21 pm, Brandon Rogers wrote:
> If this helps on the sound question, if I switch over to the standard
audio
> out jack, then I get sound as well.  Seems like the sound is being routed
> correctly over the SPDIF
>
> Thanks,
> Brandon
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brandon Rogers
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 7:16 PM
> To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
> Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] ALSA Sound and Video Modes
>
> Thanks everyone who replied on this and helped out.  The sound is still
not
> working, but holding my finger next to the optical out on the back of the
> card shows light, so I suppose that it is working from the point of view
of
> my computer, anyway.  My surround sound receiver isn't recognizing the
> signal unfortunately.  I guess the only three possible problems is that
the
> sound is being encoded in a way that the receiver doesn't understand, the
> light isn't actually carrying any sound and I still have a configuration
> problem, or the receiver has a broken optical in (which has never been
used
> before, so who knows...).  I think (hope) it is probably the second or
> first one, but I'll keep playing with it.  If you have ANY suggestions,
I'm
> pleased to receive them.
>
> Also, at first, I thought the clarity of the 1080i (540p in some cases) is
> actually better than the NTSC output.  However, after playing with things,
> I'm not sure this is the case.  Most of the clarity seems to come from
> simply having such a low resolution (the text is huge).  Sure, there is
> *some* clarity enhancements, but seeing as the resolution is so low, I
> wonder if it is really worth it.  I can crank my resolution up, modulate
it
> to NTSC, and I get more screen real estate, the picture quality (for an
> average video user) are very close (admittedly, the 1080i/540p is better),
> but by how much and is it really worth it?  What does everyone think?
>
> Thanks,
> Brandon
>
> PS. I am piping the video to an HDTV over DVI->HDMI.
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Ford
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 5:57 PM
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] ALSA Sound
>
> Create a .asoundrc file with the following and place it into the home
> directory of the myth user.   Then use ALSA:default or ALSA:spdif in
Mythtv
> and Mythmusic.  Also, make sure you turn off "Multi Track Rate Locking" if
> enabled or you will get sound output at the wrong speed.  This will
> effectively output all sound through your optical out so your
> receiver/processor can do all the work.
>
> pcm.!default {
> type plug
> slave.pcm "cards.pcm.iec958"
> }
>
> pcm.!spdif {
> type plug
> slave.pcm "cards.pcm.iec958"
> }
>
> pcm.!iec958 {
> type plug
> slave {
> pcm "hw:0,1"
> format S32_LE
> }
> }
>
> Mike Ford
>
> On Sunday 31 July 2005 1:41 pm, Brandon Rogers wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > I know this has probably been talked about before, but since
> > after 2 days of searching Google and trying "solutions" others have
>
> posted,
>
> > I will come back and ask a question (which has probably already been
> > asked 1000 times).  I have the Chaintech AV710 soundcard which seems
like
> > a popular card due to its price/performance.  How do I get this card's
> > optical out to work with my Surround Sound Amplifier?  Does it output
5.1
> > Surround? If so, what do I need to do to get it to work?  I've read the
> > MythTV Fedora HowTO and the links off that page in attempt to get the
>
> sound
>
> > to work.  I've replaced a zillion alsa sound files, but still doesn't
>
> work.
>
> >  If I route the sound to PCM out, I can hear it off the Line Out port.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for your help!
> >
> > Brandon
>
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Re: [mythtv-users] ALSA Sound and Video Modes

2005-07-31 Thread Michael Ford
Do you have 'IEC958 Output' turned on in Alsamixer?

Mike Ford

On Sunday 31 July 2005 8:21 pm, Brandon Rogers wrote:
> If this helps on the sound question, if I switch over to the standard audio
> out jack, then I get sound as well.  Seems like the sound is being routed
> correctly over the SPDIF
>
> Thanks,
> Brandon
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brandon Rogers
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 7:16 PM
> To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
> Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] ALSA Sound and Video Modes
>
> Thanks everyone who replied on this and helped out.  The sound is still not
> working, but holding my finger next to the optical out on the back of the
> card shows light, so I suppose that it is working from the point of view of
> my computer, anyway.  My surround sound receiver isn't recognizing the
> signal unfortunately.  I guess the only three possible problems is that the
> sound is being encoded in a way that the receiver doesn't understand, the
> light isn't actually carrying any sound and I still have a configuration
> problem, or the receiver has a broken optical in (which has never been used
> before, so who knows...).  I think (hope) it is probably the second or
> first one, but I'll keep playing with it.  If you have ANY suggestions, I'm
> pleased to receive them.
>
> Also, at first, I thought the clarity of the 1080i (540p in some cases) is
> actually better than the NTSC output.  However, after playing with things,
> I'm not sure this is the case.  Most of the clarity seems to come from
> simply having such a low resolution (the text is huge).  Sure, there is
> *some* clarity enhancements, but seeing as the resolution is so low, I
> wonder if it is really worth it.  I can crank my resolution up, modulate it
> to NTSC, and I get more screen real estate, the picture quality (for an
> average video user) are very close (admittedly, the 1080i/540p is better),
> but by how much and is it really worth it?  What does everyone think?
>
> Thanks,
> Brandon
>
> PS. I am piping the video to an HDTV over DVI->HDMI.
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Ford
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 5:57 PM
> To: Discussion about mythtv
> Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] ALSA Sound
>
> Create a .asoundrc file with the following and place it into the home
> directory of the myth user.   Then use ALSA:default or ALSA:spdif in Mythtv
> and Mythmusic.  Also, make sure you turn off "Multi Track Rate Locking" if
> enabled or you will get sound output at the wrong speed.  This will
> effectively output all sound through your optical out so your
> receiver/processor can do all the work.
>
> pcm.!default {
> type plug
> slave.pcm "cards.pcm.iec958"
> }
>
> pcm.!spdif {
> type plug
> slave.pcm "cards.pcm.iec958"
> }
>
> pcm.!iec958 {
> type plug
> slave {
> pcm "hw:0,1"
> format S32_LE
> }
> }
>
> Mike Ford
>
> On Sunday 31 July 2005 1:41 pm, Brandon Rogers wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > I know this has probably been talked about before, but since
> > after 2 days of searching Google and trying "solutions" others have
>
> posted,
>
> > I will come back and ask a question (which has probably already been
> > asked 1000 times).  I have the Chaintech AV710 soundcard which seems like
> > a popular card due to its price/performance.  How do I get this card's
> > optical out to work with my Surround Sound Amplifier?  Does it output 5.1
> > Surround? If so, what do I need to do to get it to work?  I've read the
> > MythTV Fedora HowTO and the links off that page in attempt to get the
>
> sound
>
> > to work.  I've replaced a zillion alsa sound files, but still doesn't
>
> work.
>
> >  If I route the sound to PCM out, I can hear it off the Line Out port.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for your help!
> >
> > Brandon
>
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RE: [mythtv-users] ALSA Sound and Video Modes

2005-07-31 Thread Brandon Rogers
If this helps on the sound question, if I switch over to the standard audio
out jack, then I get sound as well.  Seems like the sound is being routed
correctly over the SPDIF

Thanks,
Brandon

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brandon Rogers
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 7:16 PM
To: 'Discussion about mythtv'
Subject: RE: [mythtv-users] ALSA Sound and Video Modes

Thanks everyone who replied on this and helped out.  The sound is still not
working, but holding my finger next to the optical out on the back of the
card shows light, so I suppose that it is working from the point of view of
my computer, anyway.  My surround sound receiver isn't recognizing the
signal unfortunately.  I guess the only three possible problems is that the
sound is being encoded in a way that the receiver doesn't understand, the
light isn't actually carrying any sound and I still have a configuration
problem, or the receiver has a broken optical in (which has never been used
before, so who knows...).  I think (hope) it is probably the second or first
one, but I'll keep playing with it.  If you have ANY suggestions, I'm
pleased to receive them.

Also, at first, I thought the clarity of the 1080i (540p in some cases) is
actually better than the NTSC output.  However, after playing with things,
I'm not sure this is the case.  Most of the clarity seems to come from
simply having such a low resolution (the text is huge).  Sure, there is
*some* clarity enhancements, but seeing as the resolution is so low, I
wonder if it is really worth it.  I can crank my resolution up, modulate it
to NTSC, and I get more screen real estate, the picture quality (for an
average video user) are very close (admittedly, the 1080i/540p is better),
but by how much and is it really worth it?  What does everyone think?

Thanks,
Brandon

PS. I am piping the video to an HDTV over DVI->HDMI.  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Ford
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 5:57 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] ALSA Sound

Create a .asoundrc file with the following and place it into the home 
directory of the myth user.   Then use ALSA:default or ALSA:spdif in Mythtv 
and Mythmusic.  Also, make sure you turn off "Multi Track Rate Locking" if 
enabled or you will get sound output at the wrong speed.  This will 
effectively output all sound through your optical out so your 
receiver/processor can do all the work.

pcm.!default {
type plug
slave.pcm "cards.pcm.iec958"
}

pcm.!spdif {
type plug
slave.pcm "cards.pcm.iec958"
}

pcm.!iec958 {
type plug
slave {
pcm "hw:0,1"
format S32_LE
}
}

Mike Ford


On Sunday 31 July 2005 1:41 pm, Brandon Rogers wrote:
> All,
>
> I know this has probably been talked about before, but since
> after 2 days of searching Google and trying "solutions" others have
posted,
> I will come back and ask a question (which has probably already been asked
> 1000 times).  I have the Chaintech AV710 soundcard which seems like a
> popular card due to its price/performance.  How do I get this card's
> optical out to work with my Surround Sound Amplifier?  Does it output 5.1
> Surround? If so, what do I need to do to get it to work?  I've read the
> MythTV Fedora HowTO and the links off that page in attempt to get the
sound
> to work.  I've replaced a zillion alsa sound files, but still doesn't
work.
>  If I route the sound to PCM out, I can hear it off the Line Out port.
>
>
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Brandon
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RE: [mythtv-users] ALSA Sound and Video Modes

2005-07-31 Thread Brandon Rogers
Thanks everyone who replied on this and helped out.  The sound is still not
working, but holding my finger next to the optical out on the back of the
card shows light, so I suppose that it is working from the point of view of
my computer, anyway.  My surround sound receiver isn't recognizing the
signal unfortunately.  I guess the only three possible problems is that the
sound is being encoded in a way that the receiver doesn't understand, the
light isn't actually carrying any sound and I still have a configuration
problem, or the receiver has a broken optical in (which has never been used
before, so who knows...).  I think (hope) it is probably the second or first
one, but I'll keep playing with it.  If you have ANY suggestions, I'm
pleased to receive them.

Also, at first, I thought the clarity of the 1080i (540p in some cases) is
actually better than the NTSC output.  However, after playing with things,
I'm not sure this is the case.  Most of the clarity seems to come from
simply having such a low resolution (the text is huge).  Sure, there is
*some* clarity enhancements, but seeing as the resolution is so low, I
wonder if it is really worth it.  I can crank my resolution up, modulate it
to NTSC, and I get more screen real estate, the picture quality (for an
average video user) are very close (admittedly, the 1080i/540p is better),
but by how much and is it really worth it?  What does everyone think?

Thanks,
Brandon

PS. I am piping the video to an HDTV over DVI->HDMI.  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Ford
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 5:57 PM
To: Discussion about mythtv
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] ALSA Sound

Create a .asoundrc file with the following and place it into the home 
directory of the myth user.   Then use ALSA:default or ALSA:spdif in Mythtv 
and Mythmusic.  Also, make sure you turn off "Multi Track Rate Locking" if 
enabled or you will get sound output at the wrong speed.  This will 
effectively output all sound through your optical out so your 
receiver/processor can do all the work.

pcm.!default {
type plug
slave.pcm "cards.pcm.iec958"
}

pcm.!spdif {
type plug
slave.pcm "cards.pcm.iec958"
}

pcm.!iec958 {
type plug
slave {
pcm "hw:0,1"
format S32_LE
}
}

Mike Ford


On Sunday 31 July 2005 1:41 pm, Brandon Rogers wrote:
> All,
>
> I know this has probably been talked about before, but since
> after 2 days of searching Google and trying "solutions" others have
posted,
> I will come back and ask a question (which has probably already been asked
> 1000 times).  I have the Chaintech AV710 soundcard which seems like a
> popular card due to its price/performance.  How do I get this card's
> optical out to work with my Surround Sound Amplifier?  Does it output 5.1
> Surround? If so, what do I need to do to get it to work?  I've read the
> MythTV Fedora HowTO and the links off that page in attempt to get the
sound
> to work.  I've replaced a zillion alsa sound files, but still doesn't
work.
>  If I route the sound to PCM out, I can hear it off the Line Out port.
>
>
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Brandon
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Re: [mythtv-users] ALSA Sound

2005-07-31 Thread Michael Ford
Create a .asoundrc file with the following and place it into the home 
directory of the myth user.   Then use ALSA:default or ALSA:spdif in Mythtv 
and Mythmusic.  Also, make sure you turn off "Multi Track Rate Locking" if 
enabled or you will get sound output at the wrong speed.  This will 
effectively output all sound through your optical out so your 
receiver/processor can do all the work.

pcm.!default {
type plug
slave.pcm "cards.pcm.iec958"
}

pcm.!spdif {
type plug
slave.pcm "cards.pcm.iec958"
}

pcm.!iec958 {
type plug
slave {
pcm "hw:0,1"
format S32_LE
}
}

Mike Ford


On Sunday 31 July 2005 1:41 pm, Brandon Rogers wrote:
> All,
>
> I know this has probably been talked about before, but since
> after 2 days of searching Google and trying "solutions" others have posted,
> I will come back and ask a question (which has probably already been asked
> 1000 times).  I have the Chaintech AV710 soundcard which seems like a
> popular card due to its price/performance.  How do I get this card's
> optical out to work with my Surround Sound Amplifier?  Does it output 5.1
> Surround? If so, what do I need to do to get it to work?  I've read the
> MythTV Fedora HowTO and the links off that page in attempt to get the sound
> to work.  I've replaced a zillion alsa sound files, but still doesn't work.
>  If I route the sound to PCM out, I can hear it off the Line Out port.
>
>
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Brandon
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Re: [mythtv-users] ALSA Sound

2005-07-31 Thread David ellis
I'm not familiar with the Chaintech AV710 - but I'm assuming it has alsa drivers?There are two ways to get alsa sound out your digital SPDIG plug in MythTV.1) If you have OSS compatibility turned on change your myth output device to /dev/adsp - this will use the OSS mixer to output PCM sound via the SPDIF Plug (this has worked for me on two via motherboards, a SIS based board and a PCI based MIDI/Sound Card)2. If you don't want OSS (pure alsa) change your Myth audio device to ALSA: iec958. This will not have a mixer (myth audio controls won't work), but you will get audio - change your volume on the receiver.DavidOn 31-Jul-05, at 1:41 PM, Brandon Rogers wrote: All,    I know this has probably been talked about before, but since after 2 days of searching Google and trying “solutions” others have posted, I will come back and ask a question (which has probably already been asked 1000 times).  I have the Chaintech AV710 soundcard which seems like a popular card due to its price/performance.  How do I get this card’s optical out to work with my Surround Sound Amplifier?  Does it output 5.1 Surround?  If so, what do I need to do to get it to work?  I’ve read the MythTV Fedora HowTO and the links off that page in attempt to get the sound to work.  I’ve replaced a zillion alsa sound files, but still doesn’t work.  If I route the sound to PCM out, I can hear it off the Line Out port. Thanks for your help!Brandon   ___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.orghttp://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___
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Re: [mythtv-users] ALSA Sound

2005-07-31 Thread Rion Odenbach
Funny, that was one of the least painless parts for me.  I got it
working quickly and it worked great when I used that card.  Look in
Jarod's guide for some tips.  But here are some rough tips.  Make sure
you disabled ARTS in KDE.  Download gnome-alsamixer.  Run
gnome-alsamixer.  Make sure the IEC958 box is checked.  Adjust the
volume control all the way up or all the way down for the IEC958
mixer.  Test with aplay.  Test with xine using the -aALSA and -HWAC3,
flags (thats probably not the exact syntax read the man page).  If you
are using HDTV enable AC3 out in the mythfrontend setup screen.  If
you want to get more advanced follow the Mythtv WIKI howto for digital
sound.  When IEC958 is enabled you should see the port on the card
light up.


On 7/31/05, Brandon Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> All,
> 
> I know this has probably been talked about before, but since
> after 2 days of searching Google and trying "solutions" others have posted,
> I will come back and ask a question (which has probably already been asked
> 1000 times).  I have the Chaintech AV710 soundcard which seems like a
> popular card due to its price/performance.  How do I get this card's optical
> out to work with my Surround Sound Amplifier?  Does it output 5.1 Surround? 
> If so, what do I need to do to get it to work?  I've read the MythTV Fedora
> HowTO and the links off that page in attempt to get the sound to work.  I've
> replaced a zillion alsa sound files, but still doesn't work.  If I route the
> sound to PCM out, I can hear it off the Line Out port.
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks for your help!
> 
> Brandon
> 
>  
> 
>  
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[mythtv-users] ALSA Sound

2005-07-31 Thread Brandon Rogers








All,

    I know this has probably been talked about
before, but since after 2 days of searching Google and trying “solutions”
others have posted, I will come back and ask a question (which has probably
already been asked 1000 times).  I have the Chaintech AV710 soundcard which
seems like a popular card due to its price/performance.  How do I get this card’s
optical out to work with my Surround Sound Amplifier?  Does it output 5.1
Surround?  If so, what do I need to do to get it to work?  I’ve read the
MythTV Fedora HowTO and the links off that page in attempt to get the sound to
work.  I’ve replaced a zillion alsa sound files, but still doesn’t
work.  If I route the sound to PCM out, I can hear it off the Line Out port.

 

Thanks for your help!

Brandon

 

 






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Re: [mythtv-users] ALSA Sound Problem

2005-04-09 Thread Larry K
Yes, Jarod has a fix for this in his guide:  http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.phpOn Apr 9, 2005 8:31 PM, Michael Cheshire (Mailing Lists) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:






Howdy,
 
I'm using fedora core 3 on one of my frontend boxes 
(an athalon 2800+ in a shuttle n-force box).
 
Whenever you start playing something (video, mp3 
whatever) it appears to default all the mixer volumes.
 
This is quite anoying as each time I have to 
manually turn up the mixers as the output of the shuttle box is very 
low.
 
I have tried doing an alsactl store - this doesnt 
help. 
Anyone else seen this before?
M.

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[mythtv-users] ALSA Sound Problem

2005-04-09 Thread Michael Cheshire (Mailing Lists)



Howdy,
 
I'm using fedora core 3 on one of my frontend boxes 
(an athalon 2800+ in a shuttle n-force box).
 
Whenever you start playing something (video, mp3 
whatever) it appears to default all the mixer volumes.
 
This is quite anoying as each time I have to 
manually turn up the mixers as the output of the shuttle box is very 
low.
 
I have tried doing an alsactl store - this doesnt 
help. 
Anyone else seen this before?
M.
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Re: [mythtv-users] ALSA Sound Problem

2005-04-09 Thread Stuart Morgan
On Saturday 09 Apr 2005 12:31, Michael Cheshire (Mailing Lists) wrote:
> Whenever you start playing something (video, mp3 whatever) it appears to
> default all the mixer volumes.
>
> This is quite anoying as each time I have to manually turn up the mixers as
> the output of the shuttle box is very low.

In the frontend settings - Under 'General' - you can set the default volume 
levels.
-- 
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[mythtv-users] ALSA Sound Problem

2005-04-09 Thread Michael Cheshire (Mailing Lists)



Howdy,
 
I'm using fedora core 3 on one of my frontend boxes 
(an athalon 2800+ in a shuttle n-force box).
 
Whenever you start playing something (video, mp3 
whatever) it appears to default all the mixer volumes.
 
This is quite anoying as each time I have to 
manually turn up the mixers as the output of the shuttle box is very 
low.
 
I have tried doing an alsactl store - this doesnt 
help. 
Anyone else seen this before?
M.
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Re: [mythtv-users] ALSA Sound question

2004-12-30 Thread Michael T. Dean
On 12/13/2004 08:15 PM, Schwarz, Robert P wrote:
Running FC3, with ALSA!  How can I make sure that after bootup the
alsamixer settings are correct?
I have played with /etc/asound.state! No effect!
So I played with /etc/int.d/alsasound (added "set -x") and see that alsa
is already loaded. So the asound.state is never processed.
I have played with /etc/modprobe.conf adding the install and remove
lines!  No effect!
mythbackend starts from /etc/rc5.d! How can I (or better yet what is the
proper way to) guarantee that the capture and volume settings are
correct?  My system defaults to Line for Capture and I need CD, and
Capture also needs capture on.  I have also tried "/etc/profile.d" as
with the MYKERNEL postings, but that only effects post logon shells.  I
have also considered adding the amixer lines to the S86mythbackend
startup script. 
 

alsactl store
in shutdown scripts, and
alsactl restore
in startup scripts.
(In theory...  I don't use FC3.)
Mike
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[mythtv-users] ALSA Sound question

2004-12-13 Thread Schwarz, Robert P
Running FC3, with ALSA!  How can I make sure that after bootup the
alsamixer settings are correct?

I have played with /etc/asound.state! No effect!

So I played with /etc/int.d/alsasound (added "set -x") and see that alsa
is already loaded. So the asound.state is never processed.

I have played with /etc/modprobe.conf adding the install and remove
lines!  No effect!

mythbackend starts from /etc/rc5.d! How can I (or better yet what is the
proper way to) guarantee that the capture and volume settings are
correct?  My system defaults to Line for Capture and I need CD, and
Capture also needs capture on.  I have also tried "/etc/profile.d" as
with the MYKERNEL postings, but that only effects post logon shells.  I
have also considered adding the amixer lines to the S86mythbackend
startup script. 

Thanks
Bob 


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