Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone else having problems ripping new movies?

2005-03-17 Thread Peter Valdemar Morch
Andrew Gallatin gallatin-at-cs.duke.edu |Lists| wrote:
everything seems to work as it should.
Hurray! And thanks for letting us all know the end-result!
___
mythtv-users mailing list
mythtv-users@mythtv.org
http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users


Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone else having problems ripping new movies?

2005-03-17 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Andrew Gallatin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Peter Valdemar Morch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I can only repeat that it sure sounds to me like a hardware or 
> > DVD-burner-driver problem. But of course what you choose to spend your 
> > time on is up to you. And I might be wrong! :-D
> 
> I think I'll throw $25 at the problem and get cheap player, and
> hope I have more luck with that.

For the archives:

Yep, you were right.  I got a Toshiba branded DVD player, and 
everything seems to work as it should.   Thanks for the advice! 
 
Drew 

___
mythtv-users mailing list
mythtv-users@mythtv.org
http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users


Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone else having problems ripping new movies?

2005-03-09 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Peter Valdemar Morch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Andrew Gallatin gallatin-at-cs.duke.edu |Lists| wrote:
> > Xine does work though, exactly once per insertion of a DVD.  If I try
> > to use it a second time, it doesn't work.I don't think dd has a 
> > chance to work, since there was no dvdcss auth done...
> 
> dd doesn't use or need dvdcss. It creates a binary copy of the DVD. dd 
> doesn't care what is on it.
> 
> When dd has created a binary copy of the DVD in /tmp and xine runs that, 
> xine will call dvdcss to decrypt that binary image in /tmp.
> dd needs to work. Every time. Only then will you know that the OS can 
> get at your DVD drive reliably.

I think there are 2 layers of encryption.  Sector level, and file
level.   And I think the problem I'm having is with the first level.

To prove this to myself, I did an exeriment in another machine (Apple
G5, running SLES9) with a different DVD drive (hda: PIONEER DVD-RW
DVR-106D, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive)

If I attempt to dd the DVD straight off, then I get the same read
errors from dd that I get on my mythtv box.  However, if I run
anything which uses libdvdcss, then the DVD is "unlocked", and all
subsequent dd commands succeed.  The resulting image has VOBs which
are still encrypted.   

Whereas on my myth box, the drive doesn't stay unlocked, so after
the dvdcss-using app closes the drive,  dd's will fail because
the drive somehow re-locks itself.

I think the behaviour I see on the G5 is the "correct" behaviour that
all the myth transcoding stuff is designed to deal with.

> That fact the dd freezes your system is also an indication that 
> something bad is up with your DVD drive.

Again,  I'm pretty sure that was due to the ext2 oops.  

> I can only repeat that it sure sounds to me like a hardware or 
> DVD-burner-driver problem. But of course what you choose to spend your 
> time on is up to you. And I might be wrong! :-D

I think I'll throw $25 at the problem and get cheap player, and
hope I have more luck with that.

Drew
___
mythtv-users mailing list
mythtv-users@mythtv.org
http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users


Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone else having problems ripping new movies?

2005-03-08 Thread Scott Rowe
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 15:20:58 +, Ivor Hewitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I would expect it to prevent both, but not having a corrupt DVD to test
> can't be sure. Can someone with one try it out in Xine/Mplayer or
> somesuch. Is there a list of these corrupt DVD titles anywhere?
> 
> --
> Ivor
> http://www.ivor.it/goog - MSN Search unbiased?
> ___

I've got 'The Forgotten' to work fine with ogle. Mplayer gave me lots
of xrun errors tho. Haven't tried to rip it yet.
___
mythtv-users mailing list
mythtv-users@mythtv.org
http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users


Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone else having problems ripping new movies?

2005-03-08 Thread Dan Littlejohn
I have had very good success with dd -> .iso and then playing with
xine.  And it has worked with every disk except one odd problem.

The disk "Escape from New York"  fast forwards at almost every scene
change for no reason.  (you don't know how bummed I was that this
happens)  I can slow it down to regular speed after it does this, but
who wants to watch a movie like that.  Don't know if it is copy
protection related.

Also, I use to have a old teac cd-rom that would read disks that
others would not.  It was magic so I believe that hardware could a
solution.

Dan Littlejohn


On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 23:58:05 +0100, Peter Valdemar Morch
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Andrew Gallatin gallatin-at-cs.duke.edu |Lists| wrote:
> > Xine does work though, exactly once per insertion of a DVD.  If I try
> > to use it a second time, it doesn't work.I don't think dd has a
> > chance to work, since there was no dvdcss auth done...
> 
> dd doesn't use or need dvdcss. It creates a binary copy of the DVD. dd
> doesn't care what is on it.
> 
> When dd has created a binary copy of the DVD in /tmp and xine runs that,
> xine will call dvdcss to decrypt that binary image in /tmp.
> 
> dd needs to work. Every time. Only then will you know that the OS can
> get at your DVD drive reliably.
> 
> That fact the dd freezes your system is also an indication that
> something bad is up with your DVD drive.
> 
> I can only repeat that it sure sounds to me like a hardware or
> DVD-burner-driver problem. But of course what you choose to spend your
> time on is up to you. And I might be wrong! :-D
> 
> Peter
> 
> --
> Peter Valdemar Mørch
> http://www..
> ___
> mythtv-users mailing list
> mythtv-users@mythtv.org
> http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
>
___
mythtv-users mailing list
mythtv-users@mythtv.org
http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users


Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone else having problems ripping new movies?

2005-03-08 Thread Peter Valdemar Morch
Andrew Gallatin gallatin-at-cs.duke.edu |Lists| wrote:
Xine does work though, exactly once per insertion of a DVD.  If I try
to use it a second time, it doesn't work.I don't think dd has a 
chance to work, since there was no dvdcss auth done...
dd doesn't use or need dvdcss. It creates a binary copy of the DVD. dd 
doesn't care what is on it.

When dd has created a binary copy of the DVD in /tmp and xine runs that, 
xine will call dvdcss to decrypt that binary image in /tmp.

dd needs to work. Every time. Only then will you know that the OS can 
get at your DVD drive reliably.

That fact the dd freezes your system is also an indication that 
something bad is up with your DVD drive.

I can only repeat that it sure sounds to me like a hardware or 
DVD-burner-driver problem. But of course what you choose to spend your 
time on is up to you. And I might be wrong! :-D

Peter
--
Peter Valdemar Mørch
http://www..
___
mythtv-users mailing list
mythtv-users@mythtv.org
http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users


Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone else having problems ripping new movies?

2005-03-08 Thread Scot L. Harris
On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 04:49, Peter Valdemar Morch wrote:
> Scot L. Harris webid-at-cfl.rr.com |Lists| wrote:
> > I would settle for getting it to work on my older movies.  :)
> > 
> > One of the last major issues I have with my setup.  
> > 
> > Unable to play a DVD or import one.  
> 
> I most often do a binary copy of the DVDs rather than a "rip". And then 
> play the binary copy of the dvd. Something like:
> 
>  > dd if=/dev/dvd of=/tmp/copy_of.dvd bs=2048
>  > xinev --auto-scan dvd dvd:///tmp/copy_of.dvd/
> 
> Or you may do that at a friend's house where you know his setup works.
> 
> Can you play DVDs with just regular xine? Outside of Myth? With Mplayer?
> 
> That may help you separate whether it is a DVD hardware problem or a 
> xine software problem I actually had hardware problems that went 
> away when I replaced the physical DVD drive...
> 
> Peter

My first thought was to try xine.  Have used that previously on a laptop
just fine.  

On the MythTV box xine is currently not installed.  When I went to
install it I found that the repositories it points to do not list it. 
Appears that after following the guides the system only points to the
ATRPMS repository.  Will have to spend some time tonight figuring out
which repository I should point to and if that will cause me any
problems.

I think this will be the first step.  Then I can figure out how to get
mythtv to play the DVD.

-- 
Scot L. Harris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

So... did you ever wonder, do garbagemen take showers before they go to work? 

___
mythtv-users mailing list
mythtv-users@mythtv.org
http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users


Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone else having problems ripping new movies?

2005-03-08 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Peter Valdemar Morch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Andrew Gallatin gallatin-at-cs.duke.edu |Lists| wrote:
> > I just tried to dd the raw device, and that seemed to wedge the box
> > solid.
> 
> Ok, if dd won't do it, then I don't think you'll have a chance in hell 
> to get xine or mplayer to work - they can't read the disk! (The 
> exception being the DVD disks in this thread containing rip/copy 
> protection...)

Xine does work though, exactly once per insertion of a DVD.  If I try
to use it a second time, it doesn't work.I don't think dd has a 
chance to work, since there was no dvdcss auth done...

I think dvdbackup seems to solve my "you can authenticate only one
time" problem with this dvd drive.  At least it seems to have made a
nice copy of the DVD I threw at it.  Now to see how to get myth (or
something else) to transcode from a directory tree rather than a
/dev/dvd device file.


Drew
___
mythtv-users mailing list
mythtv-users@mythtv.org
http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users


Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone else having problems ripping new movies?

2005-03-08 Thread Peter Valdemar Morch
Peter Valdemar Morch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> dd if=/dev/dvd of=/tmp/copy_of.dvd bs=2048
> xinev --auto-scan dvd dvd:///tmp/copy_of.dvd/
Andrew Gallatin gallatin-at-cs.duke.edu |Lists| wrote:
I just tried to dd the raw device, and that seemed to wedge the box
solid.
I just want to make sure you saw the "bs=2048" (blocksize) parameter to 
dd. Sometimes dd will fail for me unless its included...

Andrew Gallatin gallatin-at-cs.duke.edu |Lists| wrote:
> hda: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
This sure looks like a read error to me!!
Peter
___
mythtv-users mailing list
mythtv-users@mythtv.org
http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users


Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone else having problems ripping new movies?

2005-03-08 Thread Peter Valdemar Morch
Andrew Gallatin gallatin-at-cs.duke.edu |Lists| wrote:
I just tried to dd the raw device, and that seemed to wedge the box
solid.
Ok, if dd won't do it, then I don't think you'll have a chance in hell 
to get xine or mplayer to work - they can't read the disk! (The 
exception being the DVD disks in this thread containing rip/copy 
protection...)

Personally - I'd purchase a $20 no-name DVD read-only drive from my 
local shop and try that... For me such a DVD drive just *worked*...

Peter
___
mythtv-users mailing list
mythtv-users@mythtv.org
http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users


Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone else having problems ripping new movies?

2005-03-08 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Peter Valdemar Morch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Scot L. Harris webid-at-cfl.rr.com |Lists| wrote:
> > I would settle for getting it to work on my older movies.  :)
> > 
> > One of the last major issues I have with my setup.  
> > 
> > Unable to play a DVD or import one.  
> 
> I most often do a binary copy of the DVDs rather than a "rip". And then 
> play the binary copy of the dvd. Something like:
> 
>  > dd if=/dev/dvd of=/tmp/copy_of.dvd bs=2048
>  > xinev --auto-scan dvd dvd:///tmp/copy_of.dvd/
> 
> Or you may do that at a friend's house where you know his setup works.
> 
> Can you play DVDs with just regular xine? Outside of Myth? With Mplayer?
> 
> That may help you separate whether it is a DVD hardware problem or a 
> xine software problem I actually had hardware problems that went 
> away when I replaced the physical DVD drive...

I have a new "rosewill" dual-layer dvd burner in the myth box I just
built.  I seem to be able to play a dvd using xine the very first time
I insert a DVD.  If I quite xine and attempt to play it a second time,
dvdcss authorization fails.  It will work again if I eject the DVD and
re-insert it.  Mplayer plays the first track and exits, after that I
get dvdcss errors.

Note that I was not able to get xine to do anything but complain about
dvdcss before I popped the DVD drive into a windows box and played a
DVD there using the software that came with the DVD drive (perhaps it
set a region?).  After moving the dvd drive back to the linux machine,
xine at least worked once.

I have not been able to get myth transcoding to work, nor have I been
able to get vobcopy to work.  Both vobcopy and mtd complain of dvdcss
errors.  After mounting the dvd using udf, something like vobcopy will
say:

# vobcopy -i /tmp/mnt -m
<...>
path to dvd: /dev/hda
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.8 for DVD access
libdvdread: Could not open /dev/hda with libdvdcss.
libdvdread: Can't open /dev/hda for reading

Dmesg says things like:
  UDF-fs INFO UDF 0.9.8.1 (2004/29/09) Mounting volume 
'STARGATE_SG1_V1_R1_YR5', timestamp 2003/10/02 20:17 (1ed4)
hda: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hda: command error: error=0x50
ide: failed opcode was 100


I just tried to dd the raw device, and that seemed to wedge the box
solid.

This is the first time I've ever tried to play a DVD on linux.  Is it
the hardware?  Is there a more linux friendly DVD drive I should buy?
I'm really looking forward to retiring my failing standalone DVD
player.

Thanks,

Drew
___
mythtv-users mailing list
mythtv-users@mythtv.org
http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users


Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone else having problems ripping new movies?

2005-03-08 Thread Ivor Hewitt
Peter Valdemar Morch wrote:
Peter Valdemar Morch wrote:
But, uhm, if libdvdcss fails, doesn't that affect playback as well 
as ripping? If not, how so?

Ivor Hewitt ivor-at-ivor.org |Lists| wrote:
This is NOT a new encryption system either. This is yet another way of 
producing corrupt discs that just happen to play on most consumer DVD 
players but break ripping software.

Again, in MythTV, does that affect "Play DVD" as well as "Rip DVD"? One
is nasty and ouch, the other is annoying...
I would expect it to prevent both, but not having a corrupt DVD to test 
can't be sure. Can someone with one try it out in Xine/Mplayer or 
somesuch. Is there a list of these corrupt DVD titles anywhere?

--
Ivor
http://www.ivor.it/goog - MSN Search unbiased?
___
mythtv-users mailing list
mythtv-users@mythtv.org
http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users


Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone else having problems ripping new movies?

2005-03-08 Thread john roberts

Not sure... I didn't attempt to play the movie with Myth. :(

An external DVD player worked fine.

- Original Message -
From: "Peter Valdemar Morch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone else having problems ripping new movies?
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 15:37:57 +0100

> 
> Peter Valdemar Morch wrote:
> >>>> But, uhm, if libdvdcss fails, doesn't that affect playback as well as 
> >>>> ripping? If not, how so?
> 
> Ivor Hewitt ivor-at-ivor.org |Lists| wrote:
> > This is NOT a new encryption system either. This is yet another way of 
> > producing corrupt discs that just happen to play on most consumer DVD 
> > players but break ripping software.
> 
> Again, in MythTV, does that affect "Play DVD" as well as "Rip DVD"? One
> is nasty and ouch, the other is annoying...
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> 
> -- Peter Valdemar Mørch
> http://www..
> ___
> mythtv-users mailing list
> mythtv-users@mythtv.org
> http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users

-- 
___
NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at 
once.
http://datingsearch.lycos.com

___
mythtv-users mailing list
mythtv-users@mythtv.org
http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users


Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone else having problems ripping new movies?

2005-03-08 Thread Peter Valdemar Morch
Peter Valdemar Morch wrote:
But, uhm, if libdvdcss fails, doesn't that affect playback as well 
as ripping? If not, how so?
Ivor Hewitt ivor-at-ivor.org |Lists| wrote:
This is NOT a new encryption system either. This is yet another way of 
producing corrupt discs that just happen to play on most consumer DVD 
players but break ripping software.
Again, in MythTV, does that affect "Play DVD" as well as "Rip DVD"? One
is nasty and ouch, the other is annoying...
Peter

--
Peter Valdemar Mørch
http://www..
___
mythtv-users mailing list
mythtv-users@mythtv.org
http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users


Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone else having problems ripping new movies?

2005-03-08 Thread Peter Valdemar Morch
Peter Valdemar Morch wrote:
But, uhm, if libdvdcss fails, doesn't that affect playback as well 
as ripping? If not, how so?
Ivor Hewitt ivor-at-ivor.org |Lists| wrote:
This is NOT a new encryption system either. This is yet another way of 
producing corrupt discs that just happen to play on most consumer DVD 
players but break ripping software.
Again, in MythTV, does that affect "Play DVD" as well as "Rip DVD"? One 
is nasty and ouch, the other is annoying...

Peter
___
mythtv-users mailing list
mythtv-users@mythtv.org
http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users


Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone else having problems ripping new movies?

2005-03-08 Thread Ivor Hewitt
James Armstrong wrote:

Ivor Hewitt wrote:
Peter Valdemar Morch wrote:
john roberts homepagez-at-lycos.com |Lists| wrote:
I'm surprised I haven't seen this posted yet - but from google-ing
around I found there is a new encryption method being used on some of
the latest movies.  This seems to prevent libdvdcss (1.2.8) from
working.
Just thought you might want to know why "MythDVD/Rip" doesn't work on
some of the latest movies.
-John


But, uhm, if libdvdcss fails, doesn't that affect playback as well as 
ripping? If not, how so?

Do you have a link or two to the story? What did you search for?
Is this just the new Macrovision RipGuard protection you are talking 
about? Link: 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/15/macrovision_ripguard/

This is not a "new encryption" system. They would not be able to 
change encryption algorithms otherwise all existing players would stop 
working.

There is a new Sony encryption. It started around The Forgotten movie 
release, I think there was one movie right before that. It has been 
cracked on the Windows platform already. Don't know anything about 
Linux.  http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/154963

This is NOT a new encryption system either. This is yet another way of 
producing corrupt discs that just happen to play on most consumer DVD 
players but break ripping software.

--
Ivor
http://www.ivor.it/goog - MSN Search unbiased?
___
mythtv-users mailing list
mythtv-users@mythtv.org
http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users


Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone else having problems ripping new movies?

2005-03-08 Thread James Armstrong

Ivor Hewitt wrote:
Peter Valdemar Morch wrote:
john roberts homepagez-at-lycos.com |Lists| wrote:
I'm surprised I haven't seen this posted yet - but from google-ing
around I found there is a new encryption method being used on some of
the latest movies.  This seems to prevent libdvdcss (1.2.8) from
working.
Just thought you might want to know why "MythDVD/Rip" doesn't work on
some of the latest movies.
-John

But, uhm, if libdvdcss fails, doesn't that affect playback as well as 
ripping? If not, how so?

Do you have a link or two to the story? What did you search for?
Is this just the new Macrovision RipGuard protection you are talking 
about? Link: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/15/macrovision_ripguard/

This is not a "new encryption" system. They would not be able to change 
encryption algorithms otherwise all existing players would stop working.

There is a new Sony encryption. It started around The Forgotten movie 
release, I think there was one movie right before that. It has been 
cracked on the Windows platform already. Don't know anything about 
Linux.  http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/154963

- James
___
mythtv-users mailing list
mythtv-users@mythtv.org
http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users


Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone else having problems ripping new movies?

2005-03-08 Thread john roberts

Ah - I think you have it correct.  This would make sense.

One of the many links which discusses such issues with the new DVD's can be 
found at:

http://www.videohelp.com/forum/archive/t253624.html

So - am I incorrect in thinking this will need to be addressed in libdvdcss?

Thanks,

-John

- Original Message -
From: "Ivor Hewitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Discussion about mythtv" 
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone else having problems ripping new movies?
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 09:46:49 +

> 
> Peter Valdemar Morch wrote:
> > john roberts homepagez-at-lycos.com |Lists| wrote:
> >
> >> I'm surprised I haven't seen this posted yet - but from google-ing
> >> around I found there is a new encryption method being used on some of
> >> the latest movies.  This seems to prevent libdvdcss (1.2.8) from
> >> working.
> >>
> >> Just thought you might want to know why "MythDVD/Rip" doesn't work on
> >> some of the latest movies.
> >>
> >> -John
> >
> >
> > But, uhm, if libdvdcss fails, doesn't that affect playback as well as 
> > ripping? If not, how so?
> >
> > Do you have a link or two to the story? What did you search for?
> >
> 
> Is this just the new Macrovision RipGuard protection you are talking about? 
> Link: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/15/macrovision_ripguard/
> 
> This is not a "new encryption" system. They would not be able to change 
> encryption algorithms otherwise all existing players would stop working.
> 
> Basically this is the same as the CD protection they introduced where they 
> fill the DVD with artificial errors in an attempt to confuse PC ripping 
> software, although (hopefully) consumer players will be able to ignore the 
> faults.
> 
> Obviously introducing all these errors will reduce the life of the disc since 
> the existing error correction capabilities will be severely reduced... and  
> you'll have to buy replacement discs more often, and you won't have been able 
> to take a backup copy... and... hold on... it's as if they want you to have 
> to keep buying the same disc over and over. :-)
> 
> -- Ivor
> http://www.ivor.it/goog - MSN Search unbiased?
> ___
> mythtv-users mailing list
> mythtv-users@mythtv.org
> http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users

-- 
___
NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at 
once.
http://datingsearch.lycos.com

___
mythtv-users mailing list
mythtv-users@mythtv.org
http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users


Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone else having problems ripping new movies?

2005-03-08 Thread Peter Valdemar Morch
Scot L. Harris webid-at-cfl.rr.com |Lists| wrote:
I would settle for getting it to work on my older movies.  :)
One of the last major issues I have with my setup.  

Unable to play a DVD or import one.  
I most often do a binary copy of the DVDs rather than a "rip". And then 
play the binary copy of the dvd. Something like:

> dd if=/dev/dvd of=/tmp/copy_of.dvd bs=2048
> xinev --auto-scan dvd dvd:///tmp/copy_of.dvd/
Or you may do that at a friend's house where you know his setup works.
Can you play DVDs with just regular xine? Outside of Myth? With Mplayer?
That may help you separate whether it is a DVD hardware problem or a 
xine software problem I actually had hardware problems that went 
away when I replaced the physical DVD drive...

Peter
--
Peter Valdemar Mørch
http://www..
___
mythtv-users mailing list
mythtv-users@mythtv.org
http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users


Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone else having problems ripping new movies?

2005-03-08 Thread Ivor Hewitt
Peter Valdemar Morch wrote:
john roberts homepagez-at-lycos.com |Lists| wrote:
I'm surprised I haven't seen this posted yet - but from google-ing
around I found there is a new encryption method being used on some of
the latest movies.  This seems to prevent libdvdcss (1.2.8) from
working.
Just thought you might want to know why "MythDVD/Rip" doesn't work on
some of the latest movies.
-John

But, uhm, if libdvdcss fails, doesn't that affect playback as well as 
ripping? If not, how so?

Do you have a link or two to the story? What did you search for?
Is this just the new Macrovision RipGuard protection you are talking 
about? Link: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/15/macrovision_ripguard/

This is not a "new encryption" system. They would not be able to change 
encryption algorithms otherwise all existing players would stop working.

Basically this is the same as the CD protection they introduced where 
they fill the DVD with artificial errors in an attempt to confuse PC 
ripping software, although (hopefully) consumer players will be able to 
ignore the faults.

Obviously introducing all these errors will reduce the life of the disc 
since the existing error correction capabilities will be severely 
reduced... and  you'll have to buy replacement discs more often, and you 
won't have been able to take a backup copy... and... hold on... it's as 
if they want you to have to keep buying the same disc over and over. :-)

--
Ivor
http://www.ivor.it/goog - MSN Search unbiased?
___
mythtv-users mailing list
mythtv-users@mythtv.org
http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users


Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone else having problems ripping new movies?

2005-03-08 Thread Peter Valdemar Morch
john roberts homepagez-at-lycos.com |Lists| wrote:
I'm surprised I haven't seen this posted yet - but from google-ing
around I found there is a new encryption method being used on some of
the latest movies.  This seems to prevent libdvdcss (1.2.8) from
working.
Just thought you might want to know why "MythDVD/Rip" doesn't work on
some of the latest movies.
-John
But, uhm, if libdvdcss fails, doesn't that affect playback as well as 
ripping? If not, how so?

Do you have a link or two to the story? What did you search for?
Peter
--
Peter Valdemar Mørch
http://www..
___
mythtv-users mailing list
mythtv-users@mythtv.org
http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users


Re: [mythtv-users] Anyone else having problems ripping new movies?

2005-03-07 Thread Scot L. Harris
On Mon, 2005-03-07 at 17:47, john roberts wrote:
> I'm surprised I haven't seen this posted yet - but from google-ing around I 
> found there is a new encryption method being used on some of the latest 
> movies.  This seems to prevent libdvdcss (1.2.8) from working.
> 
> Just thought you might want to know why "MythDVD/Rip" doesn't work on some of 
> the latest movies.
> 
> -John

I would settle for getting it to work on my older movies.  :)

One of the last major issues I have with my setup.  

Unable to play a DVD or import one.  

-- 
Scot L. Harris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

About the only thing we have left that actually discriminates in favor of
the plain people is the stork. 

___
mythtv-users mailing list
mythtv-users@mythtv.org
http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users


[mythtv-users] Anyone else having problems ripping new movies?

2005-03-07 Thread john roberts

I'm surprised I haven't seen this posted yet - but from google-ing around I 
found there is a new encryption method being used on some of the latest movies. 
 This seems to prevent libdvdcss (1.2.8) from working.

Just thought you might want to know why "MythDVD/Rip" doesn't work on some of 
the latest movies.

-John
-- 
___
NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at 
once.
http://datingsearch.lycos.com

___
mythtv-users mailing list
mythtv-users@mythtv.org
http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users