Re: [mythtv-users] Bad Tuner? Ati TV Wonder VE

2005-02-22 Thread Fred Squires
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 00:41:13 -0500, Daniel L. Appleget
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have an ATI TV Wonder VE for my capture card.  The tuning seems to be
> way off i.e. if I set it to channel 22 I see channel 20.  I do have the
> setting right for the tuning types NTSC and USCable.  I also get the same
> results from Xawtv.  I can use the fine-tune in Xawtv to get the picture
> stronger but it is way off like two whole channels.  I am thinking that the
> used tuner card I have is bad but I wanted to ask since I have no experience
> with TV capture or MythTV. I have the current build of KnoppMyth (5A10) and
> a P3 733 with 512Mb ram.
> 
> Another unrelated easy question I had for the experienced.  Do I need a
> faster video card for live TV, if I run the front end and back end on the
> same box?  Do I need a more powerful capture card for live TV, if I run the
> front end and back end on the same box?  Because Live TV is very choppy.

Here is what I did to get this card working (keep in mind that things
might be different with the 2.6 kernel and modprobe.conf):

Here are the configuration for files I used to get everything working
on boot. Please note that these are ADDED to the files, not the entire
files.
/etc/modules.conf

alias char-major-81 bttv
options bttv card=1 autoload=0 radio=0
post-install bttv insmod tuner type=2

This cam from the following site:
http://www.linuxlogin.com/linux/ati_tv.php

Also on the subject of performance, the TV Wonder cards use software
encoding.  Basically you should be able to record or watch your
recording fine with the 733 but not at the same time.  This is because
your processor has to both encode (record) and decode (play) the
video.  A hardware encoder like the PVR 250 would be a better idea for
that processor (or a faster processor, though the 250 has better image
quality as well).

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Re: [mythtv-users] Bad Tuner? Ati TV Wonder VE

2005-02-22 Thread Loren H. Burlingame
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 00:41:13 -0500, Daniel L. Appleget
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have an ATI TV Wonder VE for my capture card.  The tuning seems to be
> way off i.e. if I set it to channel 22 I see channel 20.  I do have the

http://tvtime.sourceforge.net/problems.html#tvwonder

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Re: [mythtv-users] Bad Tuner? Ati TV Wonder VE

2005-02-22 Thread Rick Ingersoll
I had this same problem with that card.  Make sure you get all the bttv 
settings correct in your modprobe.conf file.  I believe that the 
cardtype is 64 and tuner is 2

I hope this helps
Rick
Eric Hattemer wrote:
Daniel L. Appleget wrote:
   I have an ATI TV Wonder VE for my capture card.  The tuning seems 
to be
way off i.e. if I set it to channel 22 I see channel 20.  I do have the
setting right for the tuning types NTSC and USCable.  I also get the 
same
results from Xawtv.  I can use the fine-tune in Xawtv to get the picture
stronger but it is way off like two whole channels.  I am thinking 
that the
used tuner card I have is bad but I wanted to ask since I have no 
experience
with TV capture or MythTV. I have the current build of KnoppMyth 
(5A10) and
a P3 733 with 512Mb ram.

 

The problem is that bt878 and tuner are picking the wrong tuner.  You 
will have to use the tuner= or card= kernel parameters for that card.  
After that it will go into the correct tuning automatically.  Mandrake 
has a control panel for that.  Otherwise, its kind of tricky because 
they changed the parameters recently.  Try
modprobe tuner type=2
modprobe bttv gbuffers=4

See how that works.  Otherwise you need to figure out what parameters 
are right.  If it tells you to use card=, I think its a card=64.

   Another unrelated easy question I had for the experienced.  Do I 
need a
faster video card for live TV, if I run the front end and back end on 
the
same box?  Do I need a more powerful capture card for live TV, if I 
run the
front end and back end on the same box?  Because Live TV is very choppy.
 

Use gkrellm to see what cpu % you are using when just recording.  See 
what % it is when you are watching TV (in a window).  If the % jumps, 
your display is probably too dependent on the cpu.  Make sure you are 
using an accelerated driver for your graphics card.
-Eric Hattemer

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Re: [mythtv-users] Bad Tuner? Ati TV Wonder VE

2005-02-21 Thread Eric Hattemer
Daniel L. Appleget wrote:
   I have an ATI TV Wonder VE for my capture card.  The tuning seems to be
way off i.e. if I set it to channel 22 I see channel 20.  I do have the
setting right for the tuning types NTSC and USCable.  I also get the same
results from Xawtv.  I can use the fine-tune in Xawtv to get the picture
stronger but it is way off like two whole channels.  I am thinking that the
used tuner card I have is bad but I wanted to ask since I have no experience
with TV capture or MythTV. I have the current build of KnoppMyth (5A10) and
a P3 733 with 512Mb ram.
 

The problem is that bt878 and tuner are picking the wrong tuner.  You 
will have to use the tuner= or card= kernel parameters for that card.  
After that it will go into the correct tuning automatically.  Mandrake 
has a control panel for that.  Otherwise, its kind of tricky because 
they changed the parameters recently.  Try
modprobe tuner type=2
modprobe bttv gbuffers=4

See how that works.  Otherwise you need to figure out what parameters 
are right.  If it tells you to use card=, I think its a card=64. 

   Another unrelated easy question I had for the experienced.  Do I need a
faster video card for live TV, if I run the front end and back end on the
same box?  Do I need a more powerful capture card for live TV, if I run the
front end and back end on the same box?  Because Live TV is very choppy.
 

Use gkrellm to see what cpu % you are using when just recording.  See 
what % it is when you are watching TV (in a window).  If the % jumps, 
your display is probably too dependent on the cpu.  Make sure you are 
using an accelerated driver for your graphics card. 

-Eric Hattemer
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[mythtv-users] Bad Tuner? Ati TV Wonder VE

2005-02-21 Thread Daniel L. Appleget
I have an ATI TV Wonder VE for my capture card.  The tuning seems to be
way off i.e. if I set it to channel 22 I see channel 20.  I do have the
setting right for the tuning types NTSC and USCable.  I also get the same
results from Xawtv.  I can use the fine-tune in Xawtv to get the picture
stronger but it is way off like two whole channels.  I am thinking that the
used tuner card I have is bad but I wanted to ask since I have no experience
with TV capture or MythTV. I have the current build of KnoppMyth (5A10) and
a P3 733 with 512Mb ram.


Another unrelated easy question I had for the experienced.  Do I need a
faster video card for live TV, if I run the front end and back end on the
same box?  Do I need a more powerful capture card for live TV, if I run the
front end and back end on the same box?  Because Live TV is very choppy.


Daniel Appleget
Chattanooga, TN

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