Re: [mythtv-users] Language on ripped dvd -- transcode -a switch
On 8/16/05, Allan Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just to make sure I wasn't crazy I just ran mplayer from the command line with the following command: mplayer -ao null -vo null -v BAD\ BOYS\ II.vob and it saw what looks like to me 3 audio channels. Searching demuxer type for filename BAD BOYS II.vob ext: .vob Trying demuxer 2 based on filename extension system stream synced at 0xD (0)! ==> Found video stream: 0 ==> Found audio stream: 129 ==> Found audio stream: 128 MPEG Stream reached EOF ds_fill_buffer: EOF reached (stream: video) MPEG-PS file format detected. Any ideas?On 8/15/05, Allan Wilson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am confused I was just doing some reading on transcode to see why the developers chose it over mencoder and came across the flag that selects the audio track to record. Below is an example of using transcode from the command line: transcode -i /space/tng-biggoodbye/vob/004 -w 4357,250,100 -a 1 -b 128,0,0 -s 3.311 -V -f 25 -B 12,10,8 -R 1 -x vob,null -o /dev/null -y xvidcvs,null Next is a copy of the audio track that is being used: -a 1 selects audio track number 1 (starting with 0). Is it possible that it is just grabbing the wrong audio track? I am thinking no because although Ryan you said that once you rip a movie you are stuck with that audio track, when I run the vob file from the command line using mplayer I can see where it has 3 audio tracks 0, 129, and 128. I am guessing that it is choosing 129 b/c it is in front of the 128 and the -aid 128 flag would fix this but it didn't. Any ideas I refuse to give up. I was able to rip about 70% of my movie collection and I would love to get the rest without having to do it by hand and if other people are having this problem maybe we can narrow it down to help the developers on this. Are they doing much work on this part of Myth? It seems kinda stable compared to other parts. Thanks for all the help so far and anyone else chime in if you have any ideas, at this point anything is helpful. Allan I should rephrase, once you transcode, you are stuck with that audio track unless you use a format like OGG that can allow multiple tracks. The VOB file is a container that is in (I think), the MPEG2/PS codec for region 1 dvds. There are other DVD formats, however. When you rip the vob, you get all the other languages, and DVD perfect video, but you also get a 4-6GB file. You lose the languages, however, when you convert to a smaller file, and from that point on there's nothing you can do about it. ** This is the part I could be totally wrong on and am just going off observation ** It appears that the -a switch to transcode tells transcode to use the default audio track. It does not appear to be language specific. If the audio track happens to be the same language, and the language you want, you are good to go. However, there are DVDs where the default language is the director's commentary, and of course others that default to other languages. The most frustrating being those that appear to have the default language change between chapters. It is possible that that you can set -a to the language track and fix this problem. I honestly don't know. I believe that mtd.log will contain the transcode line that it ran, you could try running it manually setting "-a 128" and see if that works. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Language on ripped dvd
Just to make sure I wasn't crazy I just ran mplayer from the command line with the following command: mplayer -ao null -vo null -v BAD\ BOYS\ II.vob and it saw what looks like to me 3 audio channels. Searching demuxer type for filename BAD BOYS II.vob ext: .vob Trying demuxer 2 based on filename extension system stream synced at 0xD (0)! ==> Found video stream: 0 ==> Found audio stream: 129 ==> Found audio stream: 128 MPEG Stream reached EOF ds_fill_buffer: EOF reached (stream: video) MPEG-PS file format detected. Any ideas?On 8/15/05, Allan Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am confused I was just doing some reading on transcode to see why the developers chose it over mencoder and came across the flag that selects the audio track to record. Below is an example of using transcode from the command line: transcode -i /space/tng-biggoodbye/vob/004 -w 4357,250,100 -a 1 -b 128,0,0 -s 3.311 -V -f 25 -B 12,10,8 -R 1 -x vob,null -o /dev/null -y xvidcvs,null Next is a copy of the audio track that is being used: -a 1 selects audio track number 1 (starting with 0). Is it possible that it is just grabbing the wrong audio track? I am thinking no because although Ryan you said that once you rip a movie you are stuck with that audio track, when I run the vob file from the command line using mplayer I can see where it has 3 audio tracks 0, 129, and 128. I am guessing that it is choosing 129 b/c it is in front of the 128 and the -aid 128 flag would fix this but it didn't. Any ideas I refuse to give up. I was able to rip about 70% of my movie collection and I would love to get the rest without having to do it by hand and if other people are having this problem maybe we can narrow it down to help the developers on this. Are they doing much work on this part of Myth? It seems kinda stable compared to other parts. Thanks for all the help so far and anyone else chime in if you have any ideas, at this point anything is helpful. Allan On 8/15/05, Ryan Steffes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/15/05, Allan Wilson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks for all the help on this Ryan. Do you know how mtd rips a movie if it doesn't use mencoder. Has anyone run in to any documentation on how Myth rips movies in detail. Any other experiences from anyone would be helpful. Allan mtd uses transcode, with various flags depending on what you select in the menu. Oddly, it gives you the option for changing the command in settings, but there doesn't seem to be switches for other commands (such as mencode) so I'm not sure the purpose of it. ___mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Language on ripped dvd
I am confused I was just doing some reading on transcode to see why the developers chose it over mencoder and came across the flag that selects the audio track to record. Below is an example of using transcode from the command line: transcode -i /space/tng-biggoodbye/vob/004 -w 4357,250,100 -a 1 -b 128,0,0 -s 3.311 -V -f 25 -B 12,10,8 -R 1 -x vob,null -o /dev/null -y xvidcvs,null Next is a copy of the audio track that is being used: -a 1 selects audio track number 1 (starting with 0). Is it possible that it is just grabbing the wrong audio track? I am thinking no because although Ryan you said that once you rip a movie you are stuck with that audio track, when I run the vob file from the command line using mplayer I can see where it has 3 audio tracks 0, 129, and 128. I am guessing that it is choosing 129 b/c it is in front of the 128 and the -aid 128 flag would fix this but it didn't. Any ideas I refuse to give up. I was able to rip about 70% of my movie collection and I would love to get the rest without having to do it by hand and if other people are having this problem maybe we can narrow it down to help the developers on this. Are they doing much work on this part of Myth? It seems kinda stable compared to other parts. Thanks for all the help so far and anyone else chime in if you have any ideas, at this point anything is helpful. Allan On 8/15/05, Ryan Steffes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/15/05, Allan Wilson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks for all the help on this Ryan. Do you know how mtd rips a movie if it doesn't use mencoder. Has anyone run in to any documentation on how Myth rips movies in detail. Any other experiences from anyone would be helpful. Allan mtd uses transcode, with various flags depending on what you select in the menu. Oddly, it gives you the option for changing the command in settings, but there doesn't seem to be switches for other commands (such as mencode) so I'm not sure the purpose of it. ___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Language on ripped dvd
On 8/15/05, Allan Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks for all the help on this Ryan. Do you know how mtd rips a movie if it doesn't use mencoder. Has anyone run in to any documentation on how Myth rips movies in detail. Any other experiences from anyone would be helpful. Allan mtd uses transcode, with various flags depending on what you select in the menu. Oddly, it gives you the option for changing the command in settings, but there doesn't seem to be switches for other commands (such as mencode) so I'm not sure the purpose of it. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Language on ripped dvd
Thanks for all the help on this Ryan. Do you know how mtd rips a movie if it doesn't use mencoder. Has anyone run in to any documentation on how Myth rips movies in detail. Any other experiences from anyone would be helpful. Allan On 8/15/05, Ryan Steffes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/14/05, dan trevino < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 2005-08-14 at 20:35 -0500, Allan Wilson wrote:> Thanks for the link to the article to ripping manually. I am going to> play with it to see if I can do it manually. Is anyone else having> this problem or am I the only one? Since I am not finding that much > about this problem I am leaning towards it being my system but I can't> see where I have setup anything incorrectly. Thanks for the help.>>I had the same problem ripping one dvd (Bride and Prejudice...dont ask). Then tonight while watching (not ripping) Alexander from Myth, the 2ndDVD automagically started playing with French language. I was able todrop out and manually 'mplayer dvd:// -alang en ...' and everything was fine. After the it was over, I checked the 'Import DVD' option, and thedefault track shows up as 'en ac3 6ch', so I assume I woulda had thesame problem with that disc as well.My default play command is: 'mplayer dvd:// -fs -ao alsa -vo xv' dan The problem "seems" to be that transcode operates "dumbly" off audio tracks, and the default language can switch between chapters. For ripping, I don't know if there's anything you can really do about it. There doesn't currently seem to be any way to have mtd use mencoder, and I don't see anyway to set the language as opposed to the audio track for transcode. The only good solution I know is to run mencoder manually and specify the language you want via -alang or -aid. Also, if you use mplayer, using -alang or -aid may prevent the problem when you are just watching and not ripping. It certianly won't hurt anything to add it to your default command line, unless of course you are multilingual and don't always want to watch in the same language. (If you watch many foreign films, it wouldn't hurt to add in a -sid or -slang for subtitles either, just make sure you have a button on your remote set to turn them off!) -Ryan ___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Language on ripped dvd
On 8/14/05, dan trevino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, 2005-08-14 at 20:35 -0500, Allan Wilson wrote:> Thanks for the link to the article to ripping manually. I am going to> play with it to see if I can do it manually. Is anyone else having> this problem or am I the only one? Since I am not finding that much > about this problem I am leaning towards it being my system but I can't> see where I have setup anything incorrectly. Thanks for the help.>>I had the same problem ripping one dvd (Bride and Prejudice...dont ask). Then tonight while watching (not ripping) Alexander from Myth, the 2ndDVD automagically started playing with French language. I was able todrop out and manually 'mplayer dvd:// -alang en ...' and everything was fine. After the it was over, I checked the 'Import DVD' option, and thedefault track shows up as 'en ac3 6ch', so I assume I woulda had thesame problem with that disc as well.My default play command is: 'mplayer dvd:// -fs -ao alsa -vo xv' dan The problem "seems" to be that transcode operates "dumbly" off audio tracks, and the default language can switch between chapters. For ripping, I don't know if there's anything you can really do about it. There doesn't currently seem to be any way to have mtd use mencoder, and I don't see anyway to set the language as opposed to the audio track for transcode. The only good solution I know is to run mencoder manually and specify the language you want via -alang or -aid. Also, if you use mplayer, using -alang or -aid may prevent the problem when you are just watching and not ripping. It certianly won't hurt anything to add it to your default command line, unless of course you are multilingual and don't always want to watch in the same language. (If you watch many foreign films, it wouldn't hurt to add in a -sid or -slang for subtitles either, just make sure you have a button on your remote set to turn them off!) -Ryan ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Language on ripped dvd
On Sun, 2005-08-14 at 20:35 -0500, Allan Wilson wrote: > Thanks for the link to the article to ripping manually. I am going to > play with it to see if I can do it manually. Is anyone else having > this problem or am I the only one? Since I am not finding that much > about this problem I am leaning towards it being my system but I can't > see where I have setup anything incorrectly. Thanks for the help. > > I had the same problem ripping one dvd (Bride and Prejudice...dont ask). Then tonight while watching (not ripping) Alexander from Myth, the 2nd DVD automagically started playing with French language. I was able to drop out and manually 'mplayer dvd:// -alang en ...' and everything was fine. After the it was over, I checked the 'Import DVD' option, and the default track shows up as 'en ac3 6ch', so I assume I woulda had the same problem with that disc as well. My default play command is: 'mplayer dvd:// -fs -ao alsa -vo xv' dan ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Language on ripped dvd
Thanks for the link to the article to ripping manually. I am going to play with it to see if I can do it manually. Is anyone else having this problem or am I the only one? Since I am not finding that much about this problem I am leaning towards it being my system but I can't see where I have setup anything incorrectly. Thanks for the help.On 8/14/05, Ryan Steffes <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: On 8/14/05, Allan Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I tried the xine option and I am still getting french and director's commentary. Any other ideas from anyone?On 8/13/05, Claude Boucher < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From Jarod's Tips & Tricks page ( http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/tips.php):xine -pfhq --no-splash dvd://ClaudeAllan Wilson a écrit :> What are you using for the xine command in the myth play movie option.> Thanks >> Allan>___mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users Once it has been ripped, there's nothing you can do about it. Whatever language it transcodes into the avi file is what language you are stuck with. What you could do is re-rip the sound and dump the video to a file and recombine them. The easier solution is to rerip the DVD, being careful to select the correct audio track (en ac3 6ch most likely). If it fails again, you could do it manually with mencoder from the command line or use dvdrip. Learning the command line tools gives you a few more options with fine tuning than the built in ripper does. For a basic set of commands that ought to work in many cases, try: http://f0rked.com/core/simplerip Be sure to add the -aid 128 in the extra options box if you are having trouble with the wrong language manually as well. --Ryan ___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Language on ripped dvd
On 8/14/05, Allan Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I tried the xine option and I am still getting french and director's commentary. Any other ideas from anyone?On 8/13/05, Claude Boucher < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From Jarod's Tips & Tricks page ( http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/tips.php):xine -pfhq --no-splash dvd://ClaudeAllan Wilson a écrit :> What are you using for the xine command in the myth play movie option.> Thanks >> Allan>___mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users Once it has been ripped, there's nothing you can do about it. Whatever language it transcodes into the avi file is what language you are stuck with. What you could do is re-rip the sound and dump the video to a file and recombine them. The easier solution is to rerip the DVD, being careful to select the correct audio track (en ac3 6ch most likely). If it fails again, you could do it manually with mencoder from the command line or use dvdrip. Learning the command line tools gives you a few more options with fine tuning than the built in ripper does. For a basic set of commands that ought to work in many cases, try: http://f0rked.com/core/simplerip Be sure to add the -aid 128 in the extra options box if you are having trouble with the wrong language manually as well. --Ryan ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Language on ripped dvd
I tried the xine option and I am still getting french and director's commentary. Any other ideas from anyone?On 8/13/05, Claude Boucher < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From Jarod's Tips & Tricks page ( http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/tips.php):xine -pfhq --no-splash dvd://ClaudeAllan Wilson a écrit :> What are you using for the xine command in the myth play movie option.> Thanks >> Allan>___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Language on ripped dvd
From Jarod's Tips & Tricks page (http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/tips.php): xine -pfhq --no-splash dvd:// Claude Allan Wilson a écrit : What are you using for the xine command in the myth play movie option. Thanks Allan ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Language on ripped dvd
What are you using for the xine command in the myth play movie option. Thanks AllanOn 8/13/05, Jon Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Allan Wilson wrote:> I am reading the vobs that myth creates when it transcodes the movies. I> read a couple of other places that when you are using perfect it gets> all languages and you specify which one. If I have to specify when I rip > where would I specify this? Thanks for helping>> AllanTry using xine to play them back and see if you get English. For somereason, on some of my rips from my dvd's using mplayer I would get the wrong language but in xine it plays it correctly. Odder still, some ofmy dvd's that I ripped used to work in mplayer playing English then allof a sudden started speaking in Spanish or French, or instead of it being the movie it somehow became the directors cut. But now when I playthem back using xine they play the movie and not the directors cut,weird things. :)Jon___ mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.orghttp://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Language on ripped dvd
Allan Wilson wrote: I am reading the vobs that myth creates when it transcodes the movies. I read a couple of other places that when you are using perfect it gets all languages and you specify which one. If I have to specify when I rip where would I specify this? Thanks for helping Allan Try using xine to play them back and see if you get English. For some reason, on some of my rips from my dvd's using mplayer I would get the wrong language but in xine it plays it correctly. Odder still, some of my dvd's that I ripped used to work in mplayer playing English then all of a sudden started speaking in Spanish or French, or instead of it being the movie it somehow became the directors cut. But now when I play them back using xine they play the movie and not the directors cut, weird things. :) Jon ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Language on ripped dvd
I am reading the vobs that myth creates when it transcodes the movies. I read a couple of other places that when you are using perfect it gets all languages and you specify which one. If I have to specify when I rip where would I specify this? Thanks for helping AllanOn 8/12/05, Ryan Steffes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 8/12/05, Allan Wilson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I keep getting French or Director's commentary instead of English on some of my ripped movies. When I play the dvd from the dvd drive it plays fine. I have read some other posts that recommend using the -alang en and aid 128 options and I have enabled both on my command line in the mplayer command line, but nothing seems to help. How can I trouble shoot this problem further. I tried playing the vob file with the -v option but did not see a reference to language tracks available. I see where other people are having this problem but never really see complete answers. Thanks for any help Allan ___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users When you say, from your ripped movies, do you mean from vobs or from avi's? It's necessary to use -aid 128 or -alang en during the transcoding process. If you try to do it later, and the wrong language was selected, you're stuck. -Ryan ___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Language on ripped dvd
On 8/12/05, Allan Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I keep getting French or Director's commentary instead of English on some of my ripped movies. When I play the dvd from the dvd drive it plays fine. I have read some other posts that recommend using the -alang en and aid 128 options and I have enabled both on my command line in the mplayer command line, but nothing seems to help. How can I trouble shoot this problem further. I tried playing the vob file with the -v option but did not see a reference to language tracks available. I see where other people are having this problem but never really see complete answers. Thanks for any help Allan ___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users When you say, from your ripped movies, do you mean from vobs or from avi's? It's necessary to use -aid 128 or -alang en during the transcoding process. If you try to do it later, and the wrong language was selected, you're stuck. -Ryan ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
[mythtv-users] Language on ripped dvd
I keep getting French or Director's commentary instead of English on some of my ripped movies. When I play the dvd from the dvd drive it plays fine. I have read some other posts that recommend using the -alang en and aid 128 options and I have enabled both on my command line in the mplayer command line, but nothing seems to help. How can I trouble shoot this problem further. I tried playing the vob file with the -v option but did not see a reference to language tracks available. I see where other people are having this problem but never really see complete answers. Thanks for any help Allan ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
