Re: [mythtv-users] New Install - Hang on entering live tv
Well, it is working now. When I rebuilt the machine with the new hard drive, the only thing I did different (that I know of) was I got the nvidia drives from nvidia.com instead of yum'ing them from atrpms. This gave me slightly newer drivers (8178) as opposed to, I think, 8150. But 8178 are is the driver that Brian had to comment out the glx and dri which I did not have to do. So its not a complete explanation. May 8178+glx works on the 6200 but not on the 5700 that Brian has and both cards fail with the earlier drivers? For people searching for answers with similar problems... Here is what is working now... FC4 x86_64 GeForce 6200 video card mythtv-0.18.1-117.rhfc4.at No manual changes to xorg.conf (used nvidia-xconfig) NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8178-pkg2.run video driver (from nvidia's site) xorg.conf module section... Section Module Load dbe Load extmod Load fbdevhw Load glx Load record Load freetype Load type1 Load dri EndSection --BobG -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Wood Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 5:31 PM To: Discussion about mythtv Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] New Install - Hang on entering live tv On Jan 21, 2006, at 1:51 PM, Michael T. Dean wrote: Bob wrote: Thanks to everyone who replied. I thought I would post an update even though I am dead in the water due to the hard drive crashing. 1) I recorded a show. The file was created, but trying to watch the show resulted in the same blank screen crash that I have gotten originally entering LiveTV. I think this points to an nvidia driver issue particular to the myth internal player. (mplayer works fine). Because MPlayer doesn't use OpenGL vsync. 2) I was very optimistic about Brian's suggestion of removing the load glx from the xorg.conf. I commented it out, and even restarted the machine (not just X) but the problem persisted. NVIDIA's drivers are auto-loading the GLX module. You either need Myth 0.18.1 (or below) compiled without OpenGL support or Myth 0.18- fixes or SVN (which has a runtime setting in frontend settings to disable OpenGL vsync). In a short time, though, upgrading to 0.19 will give you this option (and 0.19 may be ready before your new hard drive arrives... (fingers crossed) ;) Hmmm... I was using 0.18.1 compiled *with* OpenGL support, which caused me trouble with nVidia's 1.0.8178 drivers. Commenting out load glx (as well as load dri, suggested by the nVidia docs) did indeed solve my problem. This was with a 5700 card. My CPU load is now below 5% when watching TV and it looks good (well, for consumer grade encoding that is). It doesn't seem that the nVidia drivers are loading GLX. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] New Install - Hang on entering live tv
Bob wrote: Thanks to everyone who replied. I thought I would post an update even though I am dead in the water due to the hard drive crashing. 1) I recorded a show. The file was created, but trying to watch the show resulted in the same blank screen crash that I have gotten originally entering LiveTV. I think this points to an nvidia driver issue particular to the myth internal player. (mplayer works fine). Because MPlayer doesn't use OpenGL vsync. 2) I was very optimistic about Brian's suggestion of removing the load glx from the xorg.conf. I commented it out, and even restarted the machine (not just X) but the problem persisted. NVIDIA's drivers are auto-loading the GLX module. You either need Myth 0.18.1 (or below) compiled without OpenGL support or Myth 0.18-fixes or SVN (which has a runtime setting in frontend settings to disable OpenGL vsync). In a short time, though, upgrading to 0.19 will give you this option (and 0.19 may be ready before your new hard drive arrives... (fingers crossed) ;) Mike ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] New Install - Hang on entering live tv
Bob, I recently experienced some of the problems you are describing on a new install (unstable system, FC4 install crashing out at random point in the process). My problem turned out to be memory that was either bad or just wouldn't play nice with the MB. I would suggest running memtest if you haven't already. On 1/21/06, Michael T. Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Bob wrote:Thanks to everyone who replied. I thought I would post an update even though I am dead in the water due to the hard drive crashing.1) I recorded a show. The file was created, but trying to watch the showresulted in the same blank screen crash that I have gotten originally entering LiveTV. I think this points to an nvidia driver issue particular tothe myth internal player. (mplayer works fine).Because MPlayer doesn't use OpenGL vsync.2) I was very optimistic about Brian's suggestion of removing the load glx from the xorg.conf. I commented it out, and even restarted the machine (notjust X) but the problem persisted.NVIDIA's drivers are auto-loading the GLX module.You either need Myth0.18.1 (or below) compiled without OpenGL support or Myth 0.18-fixes orSVN (which has a runtime setting in frontend settings to disable OpenGLvsync).In a short time, though, upgrading to 0.19 will give you this option (and 0.19 may be ready before your new hard drive arrives...(fingers crossed);)Mike___mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.orghttp://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] New Install - Hang on entering live tv
On Jan 21, 2006, at 1:51 PM, Michael T. Dean wrote: Bob wrote: Thanks to everyone who replied. I thought I would post an update even though I am dead in the water due to the hard drive crashing. 1) I recorded a show. The file was created, but trying to watch the show resulted in the same blank screen crash that I have gotten originally entering LiveTV. I think this points to an nvidia driver issue particular to the myth internal player. (mplayer works fine). Because MPlayer doesn't use OpenGL vsync. 2) I was very optimistic about Brian's suggestion of removing the load glx from the xorg.conf. I commented it out, and even restarted the machine (not just X) but the problem persisted. NVIDIA's drivers are auto-loading the GLX module. You either need Myth 0.18.1 (or below) compiled without OpenGL support or Myth 0.18- fixes or SVN (which has a runtime setting in frontend settings to disable OpenGL vsync). In a short time, though, upgrading to 0.19 will give you this option (and 0.19 may be ready before your new hard drive arrives... (fingers crossed) ;) Hmmm... I was using 0.18.1 compiled *with* OpenGL support, which caused me trouble with nVidia's 1.0.8178 drivers. Commenting out load glx (as well as load dri, suggested by the nVidia docs) did indeed solve my problem. This was with a 5700 card. My CPU load is now below 5% when watching TV and it looks good (well, for consumer grade encoding that is). It doesn't seem that the nVidia drivers are loading GLX. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] New Install - Hang on entering live tv
Thanks to everyone who replied. I thought I would post an update even though I am dead in the water due to the hard drive crashing. 1) I recorded a show. The file was created, but trying to watch the show resulted in the same blank screen crash that I have gotten originally entering LiveTV. I think this points to an nvidia driver issue particular to the myth internal player. (mplayer works fine). 2) I was very optimistic about Brian's suggestion of removing the load glx from the xorg.conf. I commented it out, and even restarted the machine (not just X) but the problem persisted. 3) I am running 64 bit Fedora Core 4 The last time I tested, after the crash, I did not restart it right away. When I came back, I had to power cycle the box. It now only boots into grub. Even running the FC4 install again stops with a disk error! Is it a coincidence that the hard drive went bad then? Can a software crash leave a hard drive in a state that it can not be re-partitioned and re-formatted? --BobG -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Wood Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:29 PM To: Discussion about mythtv Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] New Install - Hang on entering live tv On Jan 18, 2006, at 8:42 PM, Nick wrote: On 18/01/06, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have searched the archives and googled this topic to no avail. When I select Watch Live TV from the main menu. * the screen goes blank * sometimes I hear a brief time of audio then it stops * X consumes 98% of cpu * the keyboard / mouse is unresponsive * both backend and front end continue to run. * I can still ssh in and recover by doing init 3, init 5 Are you running 32-bit or 64-bit Fedora? Can you successfully record shows and then watch them back within MythTV? If you can, I'd think that the LiveTV config was somehow causing the problem. If you can't watch recordings, it's possibly the video driver itself? Sorry, haven't really followed this thread, but the 98% CPU usage issue I have run into. Are you using the nVidia drivers? if so the GLX vsync issue may be your problem. Try commenting out load glx in your X config file, at least this solved the problem for me. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
[mythtv-users] New Install - Hang on entering live tv
I have searched the archives and googled this topic to no avail. When I select Watch Live TV from the main menu * the screen goes blank * sometimes I hear a brief time of audio then it stops * X consumes 98% of cpu * the keyboard / mouse is unresponsive * both backend and front end continue to run. * I can still ssh in and recover by doing init 3, init 5 /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log (these lines are written when I go into Live TV) 2006-01-18 02:56:01.100 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback 2006-01-18 02:56:01.106 adding: server3.home.junga.com as a client (events: 0) 2006-01-18 02:56:01.132 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback 2006-01-18 02:56:01.137 adding: server3.home.junga.com as a client (events: 0) 2006-01-18 02:56:01.148 adding: server3.home.junga.com as a remote ringbuffer 2006-01-18 02:56:01.172 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV Things I have tried. I have rebooted. I can view the PVR 150 output with mplayer vx vo /dev/video0 I tried having the video sent to a ext partition instead of the JFS one. I tried an old version of the video driver. I follow FedoraMthology website and troubleshooting guides on mythtv and ivtv sites. Here are the system specs This is a new, never before working system x86_64 MSI mb PVR 150 using cable tuner GeForce 6200 vid card 24bit x 1024x768 Video is stored on a JFS lvm partition mounted at /video/ (it has 777 permission) No IR (yet) Fedora 4 All binary install from atrpms and freshrpms ivtv-0.4.1-100 mythtv-0.18.1-117 7667 and 8178 versions of nvidia drivers tried /etc/modprobe.conf alias tveeprom tveeprom-ivtv alias tuner tuner-ivtv alias tda9887 tda9887-ivtv alias msp3400 msp3400-ivtv alias char-major-81 ivtv # nvidia kernel module alias char-major-195 nvidia-1_0-7667 alias nvidia nvidia-1_0-7667 Any ideas? --BobG ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] New Install - Hang on entering live tv
- Original Message - From: Bob To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 7:15 PM Subject: [mythtv-users] New Install - Hang on entering live tv I have searched the archives and googled this topic to no avail. When I select Watch Live TV from the main menu. * the screen goes blank * sometimes I hear a brief time of audio then it stops * X consumes 98% of cpu * the keyboard / mouse is unresponsive * both backend and front end continue to run. * I can still ssh in and recover by doing init 3, init 5 /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log (these lines are written when I go into Live TV) . 2006-01-18 02:56:01.100 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback 2006-01-18 02:56:01.106 adding: server3.home.junga.com as a client (events: 0) 2006-01-18 02:56:01.132 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback 2006-01-18 02:56:01.137 adding: server3.home.junga.com as a client (events: 0) 2006-01-18 02:56:01.148 adding: server3.home.junga.com as a remote ringbuffer 2006-01-18 02:56:01.172 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV Hiya Bob, I've had this before on a new install, and it was with a Nova-T. I remember it killing me for a while, unti I realised I'd made a stupid mistake. I just can't remember what it was, if I come up with anything I'll let you know, but otherwise, check *everything* a dozen or so times! Sorry I can't be of my help, Steve Daniels ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] New Install - Hang on entering live tv
Thanks Steve for the words of encouragement. I would not be surprised if that was the case. I will continue to check and recheck. The strange part to me is that mplayer by itself works fine. Is there any way to make Myth log more (like maybe the exact command line that it uses to start live TV). --BobG -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Daniels Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 4:58 PM To: Discussion about mythtv Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] New Install - Hang on entering live tv - Original Message - From: Bob To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 7:15 PM Subject: [mythtv-users] New Install - Hang on entering live tv I have searched the archives and googled this topic to no avail. When I select Watch Live TV from the main menu. * the screen goes blank * sometimes I hear a brief time of audio then it stops * X consumes 98% of cpu * the keyboard / mouse is unresponsive * both backend and front end continue to run. * I can still ssh in and recover by doing init 3, init 5 /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log (these lines are written when I go into Live TV) . 2006-01-18 02:56:01.100 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback 2006-01-18 02:56:01.106 adding: server3.home.junga.com as a client (events: 0) 2006-01-18 02:56:01.132 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Playback 2006-01-18 02:56:01.137 adding: server3.home.junga.com as a client (events: 0) 2006-01-18 02:56:01.148 adding: server3.home.junga.com as a remote ringbuffer 2006-01-18 02:56:01.172 Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV Hiya Bob, I've had this before on a new install, and it was with a Nova-T. I remember it killing me for a while, unti I realised I'd made a stupid mistake. I just can't remember what it was, if I come up with anything I'll let you know, but otherwise, check *everything* a dozen or so times! Sorry I can't be of my help, Steve Daniels ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] New Install - Hang on entering live tv
Bob wrote: Thanks Steve for the words of encouragement. I would not be surprised if that was the case. I will continue to check and recheck. The strange part to me is that mplayer by itself works fine. Is there any way to make Myth log more (like maybe the exact command line that it uses to start live TV). This seems to imply a misunderstanding of how LiveTV functions. LiveTV does *not* use MPlayer. Myth starts LiveTV by making calls to functions inside Myth code which play back the LiveTV using Myth code (i.e. not by starting a separate program with a command line). Hope this helps--I haven't been following the thread. If not, ignore me. Mike ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] New Install - Hang on entering live tv
On 18/01/06, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have searched the archives and googled this topic to no avail. When I select Watch Live TV from the main menu… * the screen goes blank * sometimes I hear a brief time of audio then it stops * X consumes 98% of cpu * the keyboard / mouse is unresponsive * both backend and front end continue to run. * I can still ssh in and recover by doing init 3, init 5 Are you running 32-bit or 64-bit Fedora? Can you successfully record shows and then watch them back within MythTV? If you can, I'd think that the LiveTV config was somehow causing the problem. If you can't watch recordings, it's possibly the video driver itself? Does the LiveTV ringbuffer store location exist and have writeable permissions? (You didnt't say whether recordings and ringbuffer are stored in /video together or each have their own subfolder on /video) Finally, be sure to check the mythfrontend and messages logfiles for any error messages. Good luck, Nick ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] New Install - Hang on entering live tv
On Jan 18, 2006, at 8:42 PM, Nick wrote: On 18/01/06, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have searched the archives and googled this topic to no avail. When I select Watch Live TV from the main menu… * the screen goes blank * sometimes I hear a brief time of audio then it stops * X consumes 98% of cpu * the keyboard / mouse is unresponsive * both backend and front end continue to run. * I can still ssh in and recover by doing init 3, init 5 Are you running 32-bit or 64-bit Fedora? Can you successfully record shows and then watch them back within MythTV? If you can, I'd think that the LiveTV config was somehow causing the problem. If you can't watch recordings, it's possibly the video driver itself? Sorry, haven't really followed this thread, but the 98% CPU usage issue I have run into. Are you using the nVidia drivers? if so the GLX vsync issue may be your problem. Try commenting out load glx in your X config file, at least this solved the problem for me. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
