Re: [mythtv-users] OS X MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

2006-01-15 Thread Jeremy McDermond
If anyone is interested, I have compiled a version of SVN 8602 for  
Mac and packaged it up.  It was tested on a G5 tower with a  
completely fresh load of OSX without any development environment  
against an SVN 8602 backend on Linux.  Let me know if you have any  
troubles, although the school term has started and my time to help  
you out may be limited.

It's available at:

http://www.xenotropic.com/index.php? 
option=com_remositoryItemid=33func=fileinfofilecatid=27parent=catego 
ry


I had to change line 983 of osx-packager.pl to read:

  next if ($file =~ m,/Versions/A/\Q$dep\E,);

where it reads

  next if ($file =~ m,/Versions/A/$dep,);

in the original out of SVN.  You need to escape the $dep so that it  
doesn't interpret characters in the variable as a part of the regular  
expression.  Namely there's a C++ library in there, so libstdc++ (or  
whatever it is) is a screwy regexp that won't compile.  I think this  
is the right fix, but I haven't tested it extensively.  It just could  
screw up the entire regexp and it works because it's evaluating $dep  
as a literal, but I haven't had much time to look at it.  If some  
other perl guru has a chance to look at it, that'd be cool.



 Ok, there are now two new 0.18.1 versions at thesniderpad.com.  One
 is the vanilla 0.18.1 and the other is the 0.18.1-fixes branch from
 SVN.  Let me know if you try them and what your status is

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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

2006-01-15 Thread Matt Hannan
Jeremy McDermond wrote:
 If anyone is interested, I have compiled a version of SVN 8602 for  
 Mac and packaged it up.  It was tested on a G5 tower with a  
 completely fresh load of OSX without any development environment  
 against an SVN 8602 backend on Linux.  Let me know if you have any  
 troubles, although the school term has started and my time to help  
 you out may be limited.

 It's available at:

 http://www.xenotropic.com/index.php? 
 option=com_remositoryItemid=33func=fileinfofilecatid=27parent=catego 
 ry


 I had to change line 983 of osx-packager.pl to read:

   next if ($file =~ m,/Versions/A/\Q$dep\E,);

 where it reads

   next if ($file =~ m,/Versions/A/$dep,);

 in the original out of SVN.  You need to escape the $dep so that it  
 doesn't interpret characters in the variable as a part of the regular  
 expression.  Namely there's a C++ library in there, so libstdc++ (or  
 whatever it is) is a screwy regexp that won't compile.  I think this  
 is the right fix, but I haven't tested it extensively.  It just could  
 screw up the entire regexp and it works because it's evaluating $dep  
 as a literal, but I haven't had much time to look at it.  If some  
 other perl guru has a chance to look at it, that'd be cool.

   
Hey, buddy. That installed like butter!

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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

2006-01-14 Thread David Abrahams
Matt Hannan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Matt Hannan wrote:
 David Snider wrote:
   
   
 
 I'm just glad it isn't just me! I will try to get you that info  
 tomorrow
 night, Dave.

 
   
 Ok, there are now two new 0.18.1 versions at thesniderpad.com.  One  
 is the vanilla 0.18.1 and the other is the 0.18.1-fixes branch from  
 SVN.  Let me know if you try them and what your status is

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 Mister Snider,

 I am wondering if this has to maybe do with where I am storing the 
 MythFrontend.app.
 I am just pulling it over into Applications and launching from there.

 Are you, perhaps, building it somewhere else and the path is getting 
 screwed up based on this?
 The themes are all in the proper place, but it really is borking out 
 while looking for them.

 Another thing I am looking at it qt3. I tried compiling 3.3.4 based on 
 the directions at
  http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/MythOnMacOsx
 but I am getting errors during make. I am walking this path to try and 
 install the plugins myself.
 After this borked twice, once with make sub-src based on the directions, 
 and then again with just make, I also tried the install from 
 http://naranja.umh.es/~atg/, but I am getting errors with this as well.

 GRR.

 So, I fired up Darwin-ports and am installing qt3 this way.
 I was shocked at the amount of other packages that it puled over 
 (cups-headers, jpeg, zlib, etc). This seems to be working, but it will 
 probably not finish before I have to head to bed.

 So, what do you think about all that?
 I will post more on this tomorrow night.
 Matt

I am using this patched version of osx-packager, which corrects some
of those problems:

#!/usr/bin/perl

### osx-packager.pl
### Tool for automating frontend builds on Mac OS X.
### Run osx-packager.pl -man for full documentation.

use strict;
use Getopt::Long qw(:config auto_abbrev);
use Pod::Usage ();
use Cwd ();

### Configuration settings (stuff that might change more often)

# We try to auto-locate the Subversion client binaries.
# If they are not in your path, you should use the second line.
#
our $svn = `which svn`; chomp $svn;
#our $svn = '/Volumes/Users/nigel/bin/svn';

# By default, only the frontend is built (i.e. no backend or transcoding)
#
our $backend = 0;

# For faster downloads, change this to a local mirror.
#
our $sourceforge = 'http://internap.dl.sf.net';

# At the moment, there is mythtv plus these two
our @components = ( 'myththemes', 'mythplugins' );

# The OS X programs that we are likely to be interested in.
our @targetsFE = ( 'MythFrontend',  'MythCommFlag',
   'MythJobQueue',  'MythTranscode');
our @targetsBE = ( 'MythBackend',   'MythFillDatabase',
   'MythTranscode', 'MythTV-Setup');

our %depend_order = (
  'mythtv'
  =  [
'freetype',
'lame',
'mysqlclient',
'qt-mt',
'dvdnav'
  ],
  'mythplugins'
  =  [
'tiff',
'exif',
'dvdcss',
'dvdread',
#'cdaudio'
  ],
);

our %depend = (

  'freetype'
  =
  {
'url'
=  $sourceforge/sourceforge/freetype/freetype-2.1.10.tar.gz,
  },

  'dvdnav'
  =
  {
'url'
=  $sourceforge/sourceforge/dvd/libdvdnav-0.1.10.tar.gz,
  },
  
  'lame'
  =
  {
'url'
=  $sourceforge/sourceforge/lame/lame-3.96.1.tar.gz,
'conf'
=  [
  '--disable-frontend',
],
  },

#  'cdaudio'
#  =
#  {
#'url'
#=  $sourceforge/sourceforge/libcdaudio/libcdaudio-0.99.12.tar.gz
#  },

  'dvdcss'
  =
  {
'url'
=  'ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/unix/linux/mirrors/gentoo/distfiles/libdvdcss-1.2.8.tar.bz2',
  },

  'dvdread'
  =
  {
'url'
=  'http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/dvd/dist/libdvdread-0.9.4.tar.gz',
'conf'
=  [
  '--with-libdvdcss',
],
  },

 
  'mysqlclient'
  =
  {
'url' 
= 'http://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/software/mysql/Downloads/MySQL-4.1/mysql-4.1.12.tar.gz',
'conf'
=  [
  '--without-debug',
  '--without-docs',
  '--without-man',
  '--without-bench',
  '--without-server',
  '--without-geometry',
  '--without-extra-tools',
],
  },
  
  'qt-mt'
  =
#   {
# 'url'
# =  'http://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/mirrors/ftp.trolltech.com/qt/sources/qt-mac-opensource-src-4.0.1.tar.gz',
# 'conf-cmd'
# =  'echo yes | ./configure',
# 'conf'
# =  [
#   '-prefix', '$PREFIX',
#   '-system-zlib',
#   '-fast',
#   '-qt-sql-mysql',
#   '-qt-libpng',
#   '-qt-libjpeg',
#   '-qt-gif',
#   '-platform macx-g++',
#   '-no-tablet',
#   '-I$PREFIX/include/mysql',
#   '-L$PREFIX/lib/mysql',
# ],
# 'post-conf'
# =  'echo QMAKE_LFLAGS_SHLIB += -single_module  src/qt.pro',
# 

Re: [mythtv-users] OS X MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Hannan
David Snider wrote:
   
 I'm just glad it isn't just me! I will try to get you that info  
 tomorrow
 night, Dave.

 
 Ok, there are now two new 0.18.1 versions at thesniderpad.com.  One  
 is the vanilla 0.18.1 and the other is the 0.18.1-fixes branch from  
 SVN.  Let me know if you try them and what your status is

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OK, trying out the vanilla version. Already looks better...the MythTV 
icon is there!
Well, it bounced around a bit and vanished.
Time to try the CLI.
Still yelling for themes.

Let's try copying the themes over.
Nope, still no good. Bombs out looking for themes.
Very odd.

Matt



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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

2006-01-12 Thread Matt Hannan
Matt Hannan wrote:
 David Snider wrote:
   
   
 
 I'm just glad it isn't just me! I will try to get you that info  
 tomorrow
 night, Dave.

 
   
 Ok, there are now two new 0.18.1 versions at thesniderpad.com.  One  
 is the vanilla 0.18.1 and the other is the 0.18.1-fixes branch from  
 SVN.  Let me know if you try them and what your status is

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Mister Snider,

I am wondering if this has to maybe do with where I am storing the 
MythFrontend.app.
I am just pulling it over into Applications and launching from there.

Are you, perhaps, building it somewhere else and the path is getting 
screwed up based on this?
The themes are all in the proper place, but it really is borking out 
while looking for them.

Another thing I am looking at it qt3. I tried compiling 3.3.4 based on 
the directions at
 http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/MythOnMacOsx
but I am getting errors during make. I am walking this path to try and 
install the plugins myself.
After this borked twice, once with make sub-src based on the directions, 
and then again with just make, I also tried the install from 
http://naranja.umh.es/~atg/, but I am getting errors with this as well.

GRR.

So, I fired up Darwin-ports and am installing qt3 this way.
I was shocked at the amount of other packages that it puled over 
(cups-headers, jpeg, zlib, etc). This seems to be working, but it will 
probably not finish before I have to head to bed.

So, what do you think about all that?
I will post more on this tomorrow night.
Matt


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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

2006-01-11 Thread David Snider

On Jan 10, 2006, at 6:17 PM, Jens Baumeister wrote:

 On 1/11/06, Jens Baumeister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No, sorry, I don't, as I currently use the frontend build without the
 plugins. (IIRC it always crashed upon launch - I

 Clarifying myself here: The thesniderpad.com build *with* the
 frontend crashes for me - that's why I use the one wihtout the
 plugins.

Well, that's a bummer.  It sounds like we have a mixture of people  
who it works for and who it doesn't.   I did compile a new 0.18.1  
with plugins today.  I replaced the one on my site with that build.   
I tested it on my Mac Mini and it worked like a charm.  That probably  
doesn't say much though, since the last one did too..   For those of  
you who can't get it working, let me know.  I'd be interested to see  
the output of uname -a, env, set, contents of .profile and others...   
The more information the better.

Anyway, if anybody wants to try again, the new build of 0.18.1 is @  
http://www.thesniderpad.com/index.php? 
option=com_remositoryItemid=36func=selectid=2 Feedback as usual is  
always appreciated.
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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

2006-01-11 Thread Michael Fox
On 1/12/06, David Snider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyway, if anybody wants to try again, the new build of 0.18.1 is @
 http://www.thesniderpad.com/index.php?
 option=com_remositoryItemid=36func=selectid=2 Feedback as usual is
 always appreciated.


I'll make a note to check it out when time permits and let you know
how I go with your build. I just got a 2nd twinhan chipset dvb-t tuner
here in oz, so tonight I am going home to install it and tinker some
more with 2 tuner setup. These cards work so well and for $90.20 AU
each its not bad.
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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

2006-01-11 Thread Brad DerManouelian
On Jan 11, 2006, at 8:22 PM, David Snider wrote:


 On Jan 10, 2006, at 6:17 PM, Jens Baumeister wrote:

 On 1/11/06, Jens Baumeister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No, sorry, I don't, as I currently use the frontend build without  
 the
 plugins. (IIRC it always crashed upon launch - I

 Clarifying myself here: The thesniderpad.com build *with* the
 frontend crashes for me - that's why I use the one wihtout the
 plugins.

 Well, that's a bummer.  It sounds like we have a mixture of people
 who it works for and who it doesn't.   I did compile a new 0.18.1
 with plugins today.  I replaced the one on my site with that build.
 I tested it on my Mac Mini and it worked like a charm.  That probably
 doesn't say much though, since the last one did too..   For those of
 you who can't get it working, let me know.  I'd be interested to see
 the output of uname -a, env, set, contents of .profile and others...
 The more information the better.

 Anyway, if anybody wants to try again, the new build of 0.18.1 is @
 http://www.thesniderpad.com/index.php?
 option=com_remositoryItemid=36func=selectid=2 Feedback as usual is
 always appreciated.

This didn't work for me. I'm running a straight-up 0.18.1 backend. It  
looks like this was compiled with some other branch. Version claims  
0.18.2, MythTV project, www.mythtv.org

However, your 0.18.1 without plugins works ok for me.

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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

2006-01-11 Thread David Snider

 This didn't work for me. I'm running a straight-up 0.18.1 backend. It
 looks like this was compiled with some other branch. Version claims
 0.18.2, MythTV project, www.mythtv.org

 However, your 0.18.1 without plugins works ok for me.
Yeah, it's the 0.18-fixes that were put in..  For some reason it  
lists as 0.18.2 even though there isn't an official 0.18.2 version.   
What didn't work?
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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

2006-01-11 Thread Brad DerManouelian
On Jan 11, 2006, at 10:37 PM, David Snider wrote:


 This didn't work for me. I'm running a straight-up 0.18.1 backend. It
 looks like this was compiled with some other branch. Version claims
 0.18.2, MythTV project, www.mythtv.org

 However, your 0.18.1 without plugins works ok for me.
 Yeah, it's the 0.18-fixes that were put in..  For some reason it
 lists as 0.18.2 even though there isn't an official 0.18.2 version.
 What didn't work?

Unfortunately, I didn't look much into it. I launched it and it  
immediately stopped. I've just install svn backend, so I'm afraid I  
won't be able to see the error message any more.
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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

2006-01-11 Thread Matt Hannan
David Snider wrote:
 On Jan 10, 2006, at 6:17 PM, Jens Baumeister wrote:

   
 On 1/11/06, Jens Baumeister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 No, sorry, I don't, as I currently use the frontend build without the
 plugins. (IIRC it always crashed upon launch - I
   
 Clarifying myself here: The thesniderpad.com build *with* the
 frontend crashes for me - that's why I use the one wihtout the
 plugins.

 
 Well, that's a bummer.  It sounds like we have a mixture of people  
 who it works for and who it doesn't.   I did compile a new 0.18.1  
 with plugins today.  I replaced the one on my site with that build.   
 I tested it on my Mac Mini and it worked like a charm.  That probably  
 doesn't say much though, since the last one did too..   For those of  
 you who can't get it working, let me know.  I'd be interested to see  
 the output of uname -a, env, set, contents of .profile and others...   
 The more information the better.

 Anyway, if anybody wants to try again, the new build of 0.18.1 is @  
 http://www.thesniderpad.com/index.php? 
 option=com_remositoryItemid=36func=selectid=2 Feedback as usual is  
 always appreciated.
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I'm just glad it isn't just me! I will try to get you that info tomorrow 
night, Dave.

Thanks.
Matt
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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

2006-01-11 Thread David Snider


 I'm just glad it isn't just me! I will try to get you that info  
 tomorrow
 night, Dave.

Ok, there are now two new 0.18.1 versions at thesniderpad.com.  One  
is the vanilla 0.18.1 and the other is the 0.18.1-fixes branch from  
SVN.  Let me know if you try them and what your status is

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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

2006-01-10 Thread Jens Baumeister
On 1/10/06, Matt Hannan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Do any of you Myth-on-Mac folks  think you can help me out?
 The first question is about mplayer.
 Where do I get it?

One way would be donwloading mplayer for OS X here:

http://mplayerosx.sourceforge.net/

It's a build with a GUI frontend, but it's got the CLI app hidden inside.

Mac application bundles are really folders, so you can use a shell to
look inside, for example:

$ cd /Applications/MPlayer OS X
2.app/Contents/Resources/mplayer.app/Contents/MacOS
$ ls
mplayer
$ ./mplayer -h
./mplayer
MPlayer dev-CVS-0500May-17:40-3.3 (C) 2000-2005 MPlayer Team
AltiVec found
CPU: PowerPC

Usage:   mplayer [options] [url|path/]filename

Basic options: (complete list in the man page)
[etc...]


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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

2006-01-10 Thread David Snider

On Jan 9, 2006, at 9:24 PM, Matt Hannan wrote:

 Well, sir, you may want to check that build of the frontend. I
 downloaded it twice and they both seem borked up.
 Are there any other locations to get frontend with the plugins? I'm
 looking for 0.18.1 stable.

Hmm..  What happens?  I'm running it right now with no problems on  
Tiger.   You can check http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/MythOnMacOsx   
gkruse has a site as well as another gentlemen.If it really is  
borked up, let me know what it is doing so that I can either remove  
it or fix it.



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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

2006-01-10 Thread Matt Hannan
Jens Baumeister wrote:
 On 1/10/06, Matt Hannan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 Do any of you Myth-on-Mac folks  think you can help me out?
 The first question is about mplayer.
 Where do I get it?
 

 One way would be donwloading mplayer for OS X here:

 http://mplayerosx.sourceforge.net/

 It's a build with a GUI frontend, but it's got the CLI app hidden inside.

 Mac application bundles are really folders, so you can use a shell to
 look inside, for example:

 $ cd /Applications/MPlayer OS X
 2.app/Contents/Resources/mplayer.app/Contents/MacOS
 $ ls
 mplayer
 $ ./mplayer -h
 ./mplayer
 MPlayer dev-CVS-0500May-17:40-3.3 (C) 2000-2005 MPlayer Team
 AltiVec found
 CPU: PowerPC

 Usage:   mplayer [options] [url|path/]filename

 Basic options: (complete list in the man page)
 [etc...]


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Sweet! Thanks for that!
You obviously use mplayer in Myth.
What do you have for your Myth setup as options?
Like I said, I never could get the defaults to work.

Matt
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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

2006-01-10 Thread Jens Baumeister
On 1/11/06, Matt Hannan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You obviously use mplayer in Myth.
 What do you have for your Myth setup as options?

No, sorry, I don't, as I currently use the frontend build without the
plugins. (IIRC it always crashed upon launch - I'll reinstall if I
find the time to genereate some more useful bug reports.) I only
played arround with mplayer itself on the command line, however all
the options I tried worked as expected. (Incl. fullscreen, which would
be important for MythVideo)
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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

2006-01-10 Thread Matt Hannan
Jens Baumeister wrote:
 On 1/11/06, Matt Hannan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 You obviously use mplayer in Myth.
 What do you have for your Myth setup as options?
 

 No, sorry, I don't, as I currently use the frontend build without the
 plugins. (IIRC it always crashed upon launch - I'll reinstall if I
 find the time to genereate some more useful bug reports.) I only
 played arround with mplayer itself on the command line, however all
 the options I tried worked as expected. (Incl. fullscreen, which would
 be important for MythVideo)
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OK, thanks anyway. I will still try your suggestions.

Matt
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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

2006-01-10 Thread Matt Hannan
David Snider wrote:
 On Jan 9, 2006, at 9:24 PM, Matt Hannan wrote:

   
 Well, sir, you may want to check that build of the frontend. I
 downloaded it twice and they both seem borked up.
 Are there any other locations to get frontend with the plugins? I'm
 looking for 0.18.1 stable.
 

 Hmm..  What happens?  I'm running it right now with no problems on  
 Tiger.   You can check http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/MythOnMacOsx   
 gkruse has a site as well as another gentlemen.If it really is  
 borked up, let me know what it is doing so that I can either remove  
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Well, the straight-up MythFrontend downloads and installs fine.
But the package from your site did not.
First of all it did not show the Myth icon, but rather a, I guess, 
default icon.
I'm downloading it again so I can walk you thru what I am seeing.

HAZAH!
Someone else is having the same problem.

[quote=Matt Jordan MythTV w/ Mac OSX Frontend}
I downloaded two different builds of the MythFrontend for OS X and
they both start and ask for the language.  After that, they ask for
the hostname (IP) of the backend, database name and such.  When I
click Finish the program just closes.  There is no indication that
it crashed, it just quits.[/quote]

I had that, too.

OK, back to the download.
It shows just a couple pieces of paper, a pen, a pencil and a ruler.
That is the mounted icon. It does not show the external CD drive thing.
Double-clicking it has it bouncing around in the dock a couple of times and 
then disappearing.
Firing up Terminal and cding to Desktop shows the file as MythFrontend.app.

Any help?

Matt




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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

2006-01-10 Thread Brad DerManouelian
On Jan 10, 2006, at 7:02 PM, Matt Hannan wrote:David Snider wrote: On Jan 9, 2006, at 9:24 PM, Matt Hannan wrote: Well, sir, you may want to check that build of the frontend. Idownloaded it twice and they both seem borked up.Are there any other locations to get frontend with the plugins? I'mlooking for 0.18.1 stable. Hmm..  What happens?  I'm running it right now with no problems on  Tiger.   You can check http://www.mythtv.info/moin.cgi/MythOnMacOsx   gkruse has a site as well as another gentlemen.    If it really is  borked up, let me know what it is doing so that I can either remove  it or fix it.___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.orghttp://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users Well, the straight-up MythFrontend downloads and installs fine.But the package from your site did not.First of all it did not show the Myth icon, but rather a, I guess, default icon.I'm downloading it again so I can walk you thru what I am seeing.HAZAH!Someone else is having the same problem.[quote="Matt Jordan" MythTV w/ Mac OSX Frontend}I downloaded two different builds of the MythFrontend for OS X andthey both start and ask for the language.  After that, they ask forthe hostname (IP) of the backend, database name and such.  When Iclick "Finish" the program just closes.  There is no indication thatit crashed, it just quits.[/quote]I had that, too.OK, back to the download.It shows just a couple pieces of paper, a pen, a pencil and a ruler.That is the mounted icon. It does not show the external CD drive thing.Double-clicking it has it bouncing around in the dock a couple of times and then disappearing.Firing up Terminal and cding to Desktop shows the file as MythFrontend.app.Any help?MattAs much as it pains me to help you after the treatment I received from you...The problem is that you aren't able to connect to the MySQL database. Unfortunately the OS X frontend doesn't fail gracefully in that situation. However, if you launch it from a terminal, you'll see error messages.PBG4:~/Desktop/MythTV/MythFrontend.app/Contents/MacOS bderman$ ~/Desktop/MythTV/MythFrontend.app/Contents/MacOS/mythfrontend 2006-01-10 19:10:27.666 Using runtime prefix = /Users/bderman/Desktop/MythTV/MythFrontend.app/Contents/Resources2006-01-10 19:10:27.677 New DB connection, total: 12006-01-10 19:10:28.130 Total desktop dim: 1280x854, with 1 screen[s].2006-01-10 19:10:28.143 Running in a window2006-01-10 19:10:28.147 Using screen 0, 1280x781 at 0,22etc.If you're only getting the MythFrontend.app application then you don't have any of the plugins (like you were complaining about before). You'll need to either compile the plugins yourself or download a dmg containing all the plugins like from http://thesniderpad.comI'm assuming you are running backend on a different machine. If you download pre-compiled binaries you need to make sure the protocol versions match up. If they don't, you'll see something like "Protocol version mismatch (frontend=22,backend=15)" when trying to use a recent SVN frontend with 0.18.1 backend.If you are having problems establishing a connection to the backend, make sure MySQL on your backend is accepting remote connections (search the forums). If you can login from command line on the machine you're running front end from (search the forums), follow the instructions in the link you referenced to set up the database parameters correctly in FrontEnd.-Brad___
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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

2006-01-10 Thread Matt Hannan
Brad DerManouelian wrote:
 As much as it pains me to help you after the treatment I received from 
 you...
I do hope you are joking.

 The problem is that you aren't able to connect to the MySQL database.
Actually, it turns out that the MySQL stuff is fine. It is bombing out 
because it can't find any themes!

 Unfortunately the OS X frontend doesn't fail gracefully in that 
 situation. However, if you launch it from a terminal, you'll see error 
 messages.

 PBG4:~/Desktop/MythTV/MythFrontend.app/Contents/MacOS bderman$ 
 ~/Desktop/MythTV/MythFrontend.app/Contents/MacOS/mythfrontend
 2006-01-10 19:10:27.666 Using runtime prefix = 
 /Users/bderman/Desktop/MythTV/MythFrontend.app/Contents/Resources
 2006-01-10 19:10:27.677 New DB connection, total: 1
 2006-01-10 19:10:28.130 Total desktop dim: 1280x854, with 1 screen[s].
 2006-01-10 19:10:28.143 Running in a window
 2006-01-10 19:10:28.147 Using screen 0, 1280x781 at 0,22

 etc.

 If you're only getting the MythFrontend.app application then you don't 
 have any of the plugins (like you were complaining about before). 
 You'll need to either compile the plugins yourself or download a dmg 
 containing all the plugins like from http://thesniderpad.com
Yes, yes. I know all that. And I am grabbing the broken dmg from 
thesniderpad.com, stable, not SVN.
What is odd is that the no-plugins version fires up with no problem and 
lets me choose between Blue or G.A.N.T.
OK, so I just copied the sniderpad MythFrontend to Applications, from 
where Myth was running with the non-plugin version, and it still does 
not work. Bombs looking for themes.

 I'm assuming you are running backend on a different machine. If you 
 download pre-compiled binaries you need to make sure the protocol 
 versions match up. If they don't, you'll see something like Protocol 
 version mismatch (frontend=22,backend=15) when trying to use a recent 
 SVN frontend with 0.18.1 backend.
Nope, but good detective work.

 If you are having problems establishing a connection to the backend, 
 make sure MySQL on your backend is accepting remote connections 
 (search the forums). If you can login from command line on the machine 
 you're running front end from (search the forums), follow the 
 instructions in the link you referenced to set up the database 
 parameters correctly in FrontEnd.

All of that is fine. I have 018.1 running on a Suse box as a remote 
frontend. Not noob. Just not a Mac guy. ;-)
And I think there is an issue with the stable build at thesniderpad.com.
How about the SVN builds? Are they current or this mysterious 0.19 that 
folks are talking about?

Thanks for your help, Brad. Seriously. You seem a level headed person.

Matt


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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

2006-01-10 Thread Wade Maxfield
Brad DerManouelian wrote:
  As much as it pains me to help you after the treatment I received from
  you...
I do hope you are joking.

  The problem is that you aren't able to connect to the MySQL database.
Actually, it turns out that the MySQL stuff is fine. It is bombing out
because it can't find any themes!



In that case, just install some themes from any working installation 
you have.  Right click the mythfrontend application, show package 
contents, then dump the themes in 
Contents/Resources/share/mythtv/themes/

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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

2006-01-10 Thread Brad DerManouelian
On Jan 10, 2006, at 8:09 PM, Matt Hannan wrote:Brad DerManouelian wrote: As much as it pains me to help you after the treatment I received from you... I do hope you are joking. The problem is that you aren't able to connect to the MySQL database. Actually, it turns out that the MySQL stuff is fine. It is bombing out because it can't find any themes! Unfortunately the OS X frontend doesn't fail gracefully in that situation. However, if you launch it from a terminal, you'll see error messages.PBG4:~/Desktop/MythTV/MythFrontend.app/Contents/MacOS bderman$ ~/Desktop/MythTV/MythFrontend.app/Contents/MacOS/mythfrontend2006-01-10 19:10:27.666 Using runtime prefix = /Users/bderman/Desktop/MythTV/MythFrontend.app/Contents/Resources2006-01-10 19:10:27.677 New DB connection, total: 12006-01-10 19:10:28.130 Total desktop dim: 1280x854, with 1 screen[s].2006-01-10 19:10:28.143 Running in a window2006-01-10 19:10:28.147 Using screen 0, 1280x781 at 0,22etc.If you're only getting the MythFrontend.app application then you don't have any of the plugins (like you were complaining about before). You'll need to either compile the plugins yourself or download a dmg containing all the plugins like from http://thesniderpad.com Yes, yes. I know all that. And I am grabbing the "broken" dmg from thesniderpad.com, stable, not SVN.What is odd is that the no-plugins version fires up with no problem and lets me choose between Blue or G.A.N.T.OK, so I just copied the sniderpad MythFrontend to Applications, from where Myth was running with the non-plugin version, and it still does not work. Bombs looking for themes. I'm assuming you are running backend on a different machine. If you download pre-compiled binaries you need to make sure the protocol versions match up. If they don't, you'll see something like "Protocol version mismatch (frontend=22,backend=15)" when trying to use a recent SVN frontend with 0.18.1 backend. Nope, but good detective work. If you are having problems establishing a connection to the backend, make sure MySQL on your backend is accepting remote connections (search the forums). If you can login from command line on the machine you're running front end from (search the forums), follow the instructions in the link you referenced to set up the database parameters correctly in FrontEnd. All of that is fine. I have 018.1 running on a Suse box as a remote frontend. Not noob. Just not a Mac guy. ;-)And I think there is an issue with the "stable" build at thesniderpad.com.How about the SVN builds? Are they current or this mysterious 0.19 that folks are talking about?Thanks for your help, Brad. Seriously. You seem a level headed person.MattI'm using MythTV 0.18.1 Frontend for MacOSX from thesniderpad.com and don't have the same issue. What's your error message?___
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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

2006-01-10 Thread Matt Hannan
Wade Maxfield wrote:
 Brad DerManouelian wrote:
 
  As much as it pains me to help you after the treatment I received from
  you...
   
 I do hope you are joking.
 
  The problem is that you aren't able to connect to the MySQL database.
   
 Actually, it turns out that the MySQL stuff is fine. It is bombing out
 because it can't find any themes!


 

 In that case, just install some themes from any working installation 
 you have.  Right click the mythfrontend application, show package 
 contents, then dump the themes in 
 Contents/Resources/share/mythtv/themes/

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Rock on, Wade. Thanks! I am just finishing up downloading last night's 
SVN. Fingers crossed.
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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

2006-01-10 Thread Roland Roberts
 David == David Snider [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

David Thanks for downloading the binary.  I'm very interested in
David your feedback, if a build doesn't work, I'll want to pull it
David off the site..

What a happy coincidence, I'm trying it out right now

I had several problems with the install that I still can't quite figure
out even though I have it working now :-/

I'm going to try to reinstall on my wife's iMac later this week, but the
download from your site was part of what I have working.  What I don't
quite understand is that a second file seems to have come from another
download of the dmg file and launching that ran me through the set-up.
It kept telling me it couldn't connect to my database, but it in fact,
is working.  

I would like to say I know what I did to get it all working, but I was
pretty tired by the time I finished and don't remember it so well.  I'll
try to keep better notes when I install on my wife's iMac.

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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

2006-01-10 Thread Matt Hannan
Wade, Brad, Dave, all others.

No good. I just don't get it. I copied the working themes folder to the 
proper place, deleted the broken one and renamed themes copy to 
themes.

Still it can not find the themes.

Downloading the non-plugin version now just to be done with it.

I'll tell you, there is something to be said for:

A) homogeneous equipment (Alex released updated Myth packages today for 
the FC branch, Suse trails releases by a few days anyway and the SVN 
from thesniderpad.com gave the version mismatch).
B) keeping things simple
C) not watching so much TV!

The past couple of weeks have taken it out of me! I can see why folks 
hate MythTV at their first exposure to it. It CAN be a bugger!

Anyway, thanks for all of your help and assistance.

Matt Hannan
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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

2006-01-10 Thread Jens Baumeister
On 1/11/06, Jens Baumeister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No, sorry, I don't, as I currently use the frontend build without the
 plugins. (IIRC it always crashed upon launch - I

Clarifying myself here: The thesniderpad.com build *with* the
frontend crashes for me - that's why I use the one wihtout the
plugins.

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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

2006-01-10 Thread Michael Fox
On 1/11/06, Jens Baumeister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Clarifying myself here: The thesniderpad.com build *with* the
 frontend crashes for me - that's why I use the one wihtout the
 plugins.


I should download and check it out, infact I will send myself a
reminder to check it out tonight.  I am using another build from
somewhere else, I cant remember the url, but I am sure I could find
it. However I am not running SVN, so the build I am using is a for a
different version. It works great too.

As to hating mythtv, as you get further and further into getting
things working you learn to like it.
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[mythtv-users] OS X MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

2006-01-09 Thread Matt Hannan
OK, so I have reloaded OS X and am currently installing MythFrontend 
0.18.1 from thesniderpad.com. This build includes some plugins, like 
MythVideo and MythDVD.

I have tried this build before, but always gave up on it because I could 
never figure out the player commands for the plugins.

Do any of you Myth-on-Mac folks  think you can help me out?
The first question is about mplayer.
Where do I get it?
DarwinPorts? Installing it now.
After that, what is the command that I put into Setup?
The default has never worked for me.

The second question is about xine in MythDVD.
I prefer it, because of the menu support.
Is anyone using it? If so, how?

Thanks for your help, everybody.

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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

2006-01-09 Thread David Snider
Thanks for downloading the binary.  I'm very interested in your  
feedback, if a build doesn't work, I'll want to pull it off the site..

As for me, I use mplayer, but until recently, DVD VOB's with AC3 had  
noticeable static feedback.  However, I found that you can download  
the CVS version of mplayer and it compiles just fine on MacOSX.  It's  
much faster than previous versions (Uses the CoreVideo services now)  
and there is NO static feedback.

I don't know this for certain, but I installed mplayer first via fink  
(to get a lot of the dependencies, may or may not have been  
necessary) then downloaded the CVS version and compiled and installed  
to /usr/local/mplayer instead of /usr/local/bin.

My Video player settings are setup as /usr/local/mplayer/bin/mplayer %s.

My .mplayer/config contents are:
subcc=1
fs=1

I like the closed captions and full screen mode...

Never used Xine on Mac, found a link to a binary on Wikipedia, but  
could never get it to download.  To be honest, I just use the Apple  
DVD Player, no offense to the developers of MythDVD.

On Jan 9, 2006, at 8:49 PM, Matt Hannan wrote:

 OK, so I have reloaded OS X and am currently installing MythFrontend
 0.18.1 from thesniderpad.com. This build includes some plugins, like
 MythVideo and MythDVD.

 I have tried this build before, but always gave up on it because I  
 could
 never figure out the player commands for the plugins.

 Do any of you Myth-on-Mac folks  think you can help me out?
 The first question is about mplayer.
 Where do I get it?
 DarwinPorts? Installing it now.
 After that, what is the command that I put into Setup?
 The default has never worked for me.

 The second question is about xine in MythDVD.
 I prefer it, because of the menu support.
 Is anyone using it? If so, how?

 Thanks for your help, everybody.

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Re: [mythtv-users] OS X MythFrontend 0.18.1 with plugins

2006-01-09 Thread Matt Hannan
Well, sir, you may want to check that build of the frontend. I 
downloaded it twice and they both seem borked up.
Are there any other locations to get frontend with the plugins? I'm 
looking for 0.18.1 stable.

And thanks for the tips on mplayer.

My last go-round, I used the Apple DVD player as well. It works just fine.
But, I am trying to get the full Myth Experience (minus all the pain and 
suffering!!!) this time.

Matt


David Snider wrote:
 Thanks for downloading the binary.  I'm very interested in your  
 feedback, if a build doesn't work, I'll want to pull it off the site..

 As for me, I use mplayer, but until recently, DVD VOB's with AC3 had  
 noticeable static feedback.  However, I found that you can download  
 the CVS version of mplayer and it compiles just fine on MacOSX.  It's  
 much faster than previous versions (Uses the CoreVideo services now)  
 and there is NO static feedback.

 I don't know this for certain, but I installed mplayer first via fink  
 (to get a lot of the dependencies, may or may not have been  
 necessary) then downloaded the CVS version and compiled and installed  
 to /usr/local/mplayer instead of /usr/local/bin.

 My Video player settings are setup as /usr/local/mplayer/bin/mplayer %s.

 My .mplayer/config contents are:
 subcc=1
 fs=1

 I like the closed captions and full screen mode...

 Never used Xine on Mac, found a link to a binary on Wikipedia, but  
 could never get it to download.  To be honest, I just use the Apple  
 DVD Player, no offense to the developers of MythDVD.

 On Jan 9, 2006, at 8:49 PM, Matt Hannan wrote:

   
 OK, so I have reloaded OS X and am currently installing MythFrontend
 0.18.1 from thesniderpad.com. This build includes some plugins, like
 MythVideo and MythDVD.

 I have tried this build before, but always gave up on it because I  
 could
 never figure out the player commands for the plugins.

 Do any of you Myth-on-Mac folks  think you can help me out?
 The first question is about mplayer.
 Where do I get it?
 DarwinPorts? Installing it now.
 After that, what is the command that I put into Setup?
 The default has never worked for me.

 The second question is about xine in MythDVD.
 I prefer it, because of the menu support.
 Is anyone using it? If so, how?

 Thanks for your help, everybody.

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