Re: [mythtv-users] Way OT but...

2005-10-20 Thread Asher Schaffer
On 10/17/05, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK so there are threads on here about the video ipod so I thought this
 one is ok too.

 My son was recently given a little mp3 player sourced in Hong Kong. It
 has a little screen and can play videos as well as music. There is a
 sample video on the machine when you buy it, and it plays tolerably well.

 Trouble is i cannot figure out the file format or codecs used so that i
 can encode video for it. There are some programs on the accompanying CD,
 but they are all chinese language and for windows.

 The file has the suffix .mtv and running file on it simply gives the
 result data. mplayer, xine, ffmpeg, tcprobe all fail to recognise it.

 The device is branged mp4 and was made somewhere in asia.

 Any ideas on how to figure out how this stuff is encoded and packaged?

Have you looked at this thread?
http://www.moviecodec.com/topics/7595p1.html
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Re: [mythtv-users] Way OT but...

2005-10-19 Thread Gert van der Knokke

Nick Rout wrote:


OK so there are threads on here about the video ipod so I thought this
one is ok too.

My son was recently given a little mp3 player sourced in Hong Kong. It
has a little screen and can play videos as well as music. There is a
sample video on the machine when you buy it, and it plays tolerably well. 


Trouble is i cannot figure out the file format or codecs used so that i
can encode video for it. There are some programs on the accompanying CD,
but they are all chinese language and for windows.

The file has the suffix .mtv and running file on it simply gives the
result data. mplayer, xine, ffmpeg, tcprobe all fail to recognise it.

The device is branged mp4 and was made somewhere in asia. 


Any ideas on how to figure out how this stuff is encoded and packaged?
 


Quote of some stuff I found with Google:


The most so called china mp4 devices I'm aware of, support only
variations of mtv like dmv or mpx. There is no chance at all to play
native wmv or mpg without prior conversion because those devices have
neither hardware nor software decoding support. The concept of the mtv
format (and all derivates) is, to have an mp3 stream that carries image
information that is allready in the format of the display hardware
(uncompressed). A hardware mp3 decoder is already in place, the display
hardware only need to point to the memory adress of the next image
(simple implementation in soft- and hardware).


Hope this will help...

Gert

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Re: [mythtv-users] Way OT but...

2005-10-19 Thread Asher Schaffer
On 10/17/05, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK so there are threads on here about the video ipod so I thought this
 one is ok too.

 My son was recently given a little mp3 player sourced in Hong Kong. It
 has a little screen and can play videos as well as music. There is a
 sample video on the machine when you buy it, and it plays tolerably well.

 Trouble is i cannot figure out the file format or codecs used so that i
 can encode video for it. There are some programs on the accompanying CD,
 but they are all chinese language and for windows.

 The file has the suffix .mtv and running file on it simply gives the
 result data. mplayer, xine, ffmpeg, tcprobe all fail to recognise it.

 The device is branged mp4 and was made somewhere in asia.

 Any ideas on how to figure out how this stuff is encoded and packaged?

Do you have access to any windows machine?  If so you could use gspot:
http://www.headbands.com/gspot/
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Re: [mythtv-users] Way OT but...

2005-10-19 Thread Nick Rout

On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 21:45:42 +0200
Gert van der Knokke wrote:

 Nick Rout wrote:
 
 OK so there are threads on here about the video ipod so I thought this
 one is ok too.
 
 My son was recently given a little mp3 player sourced in Hong Kong. It
 has a little screen and can play videos as well as music. There is a
 sample video on the machine when you buy it, and it plays tolerably well. 
 
 Trouble is i cannot figure out the file format or codecs used so that i
 can encode video for it. There are some programs on the accompanying CD,
 but they are all chinese language and for windows.
 
 The file has the suffix .mtv and running file on it simply gives the
 result data. mplayer, xine, ffmpeg, tcprobe all fail to recognise it.
 
 The device is branged mp4 and was made somewhere in asia. 
 
 Any ideas on how to figure out how this stuff is encoded and packaged?
   
 
 Quote of some stuff I found with Google:
 
  The most so called china mp4 devices I'm aware of, support only
  variations of mtv like dmv or mpx. There is no chance at all to play
  native wmv or mpg without prior conversion because those devices have
  neither hardware nor software decoding support. The concept of the mtv
  format (and all derivates) is, to have an mp3 stream that carries image
  information that is allready in the format of the display hardware
  (uncompressed). A hardware mp3 decoder is already in place, the display
  hardware only need to point to the memory adress of the next image
  (simple implementation in soft- and hardware).
 
 Hope this will help...
 
 Gert
 

Thanks Gert, that makes sense as i have seen people complain that their
video files get bigger when theey convert them for use on these devices!




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Re: [mythtv-users] Way OT but...

2005-10-19 Thread Nick Rout

On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:07:59 -0700
Asher Schaffer wrote:

  Any ideas on how to figure out how this stuff is encoded and packaged?
 
 Do you have access to any windows machine?  If so you could use gspot:
 http://www.headbands.com/gspot/

gspot cannot figure it out either.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Way OT but...

2005-10-19 Thread Jeff Simpson
On 10/19/05, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:07:59 -0700Asher Schaffer wrote:  Any ideas on how to figure out how this stuff is encoded and packaged? Do you have access to any windows machine?If so you could use gspot:
 http://www.headbands.com/gspot/gspot cannot figure it out either.

Does mplayer handle it? mplayer will usually give you some clues about the file when it plays it. 

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Re: [mythtv-users] Way OT but...

2005-10-19 Thread Nick Rout

On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:22:45 -0400
Jeff Simpson wrote:

 On 10/19/05, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:07:59 -0700
  Asher Schaffer wrote:
 
Any ideas on how to figure out how this stuff is encoded and packaged?
  
   Do you have access to any windows machine? If so you could use gspot:
   http://www.headbands.com/gspot/
 
  gspot cannot figure it out either.
 
 
 
 Does mplayer handle it? mplayer will usually give you some clues about the
 file when it plays it.

negative


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[mythtv-users] Way OT but...

2005-10-17 Thread Nick Rout
OK so there are threads on here about the video ipod so I thought this
one is ok too.

My son was recently given a little mp3 player sourced in Hong Kong. It
has a little screen and can play videos as well as music. There is a
sample video on the machine when you buy it, and it plays tolerably well. 

Trouble is i cannot figure out the file format or codecs used so that i
can encode video for it. There are some programs on the accompanying CD,
but they are all chinese language and for windows.

The file has the suffix .mtv and running file on it simply gives the
result data. mplayer, xine, ffmpeg, tcprobe all fail to recognise it.

The device is branged mp4 and was made somewhere in asia. 

Any ideas on how to figure out how this stuff is encoded and packaged?
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Re: [mythtv-users] Way OT but...

2005-10-17 Thread W.Kenworthy
run strings filename
or look at the first part of the file using a hex editor

BillK

On Tue, 2005-10-18 at 14:15 +1300, Nick Rout wrote:
 OK so there are threads on here about the video ipod so I thought this
 one is ok too.
 
 My son was recently given a little mp3 player sourced in Hong Kong. It
 has a little screen and can play videos as well as music. There is a
 sample video on the machine when you buy it, and it plays tolerably well. 
 
 Trouble is i cannot figure out the file format or codecs used so that i
 can encode video for it. There are some programs on the accompanying CD,
 but they are all chinese language and for windows.
 
 The file has the suffix .mtv and running file on it simply gives the
 result data. mplayer, xine, ffmpeg, tcprobe all fail to recognise it.
 
 The device is branged mp4 and was made somewhere in asia. 
 
 Any ideas on how to figure out how this stuff is encoded and packaged?
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Re: [mythtv-users] Way OT but...

2005-10-17 Thread Nick Rout

On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:44:09 +0800
W.Kenworthy wrote:

 run strings filename
 or look at the first part of the file using a hex editor
 
 BillK

AMVC{binary garbage}ACTIONS{binary garbage}.TL2005/05/11/10:09:54

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