Re: [mythtv-users] X output to both TV and monitor
Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 20:17:11 +0100 From: Carlos Fernandez Sanz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] X output to both TV and monitor To: Discussion about mythtv mythtv-users@mythtv.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed What I want is both screens to display the same contents... I don't want to have one virtual area with the TV being at the right or bottom of the monitor. A few possibilities: It's possible to run the Myth frontend from the monitor and direct the TV output to the PVR350. It's possible to run Myth frontend on both the TV and monitor. Just don't try to watch anything from the monitor. Using the setup menus would be no problem. You could try using the Relative screen positioning option in the X config file to make the two screens overlap. I don't know what would actually happen - I never tried it. -- Regards, Bob Wiegand ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
[mythtv-users] X output to both TV and monitor
Hi, Is it possible to use a PVR-350 in X to output to TV and, at the same time, use a regular video card (an Nvidia FX 5200 to be exact) to output to monitor? I'd like to use both at the same time... would be really useful to me. Configuring myth using the TV can't be good for the eyes... Thanks. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] X output to both TV and monitor
Yes is the short answer. There are several ways 1) Run dual screen Pros - relatively simple to make work Cons - The 350's X display is tied to the desktop one so logging out restarts the x server for the 350 as well as the desktop. The desktop mouse can move off the side and onto the tv's display 2) Run 2 x servers Pros - they are independent so the 350 one can run forever and doesn't really need a window manager Cons - You really need to disable the Virtual Terminal switching since by default only the one connected to the active virtual terminal will run. There are patches around for X to do this but that means that you have to find them, apply them and then rebuild the server. I do have the patches on my machine and I am hoping to write up how to make the second option work since several people have asked how to do it. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mythtv-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carlos Fernandez Sanz Sent: 02 January 2005 18:32 To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org Subject: [mythtv-users] X output to both TV and monitor Hi, Is it possible to use a PVR-350 in X to output to TV and, at the same time, use a regular video card (an Nvidia FX 5200 to be exact) to output to monitor? I'd like to use both at the same time... would be really useful to me. Configuring myth using the TV can't be good for the eyes... Thanks. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] X output to both TV and monitor
John, What I want is both screens to display the same contents... I don't want to have one virtual area with the TV being at the right or bottom of the monitor. The thing is, with the nVidia card (which has TV out too, even though I believe the PVR-350 has better quality) it works this way from the BIOS messages until the X server is started. As soon as this happens, the TV goes black (until I have ConnectedMonitor TV in the config file, in this case the monitor goes black). Surely there is a way to tell the X server that there are two devices to use for display? Thanks. John Harvey wrote: Yes is the short answer. There are several ways 1) Run dual screen Pros - relatively simple to make work Cons - The 350's X display is tied to the desktop one so logging out restarts the x server for the 350 as well as the desktop. The desktop mouse can move off the side and onto the tv's display 2) Run 2 x servers Pros - they are independent so the 350 one can run forever and doesn't really need a window manager Cons - You really need to disable the Virtual Terminal switching since by default only the one connected to the active virtual terminal will run. There are patches around for X to do this but that means that you have to find them, apply them and then rebuild the server. I do have the patches on my machine and I am hoping to write up how to make the second option work since several people have asked how to do it. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mythtv-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carlos Fernandez Sanz Sent: 02 January 2005 18:32 To: mythtv-users@mythtv.org Subject: [mythtv-users] X output to both TV and monitor Hi, Is it possible to use a PVR-350 in X to output to TV and, at the same time, use a regular video card (an Nvidia FX 5200 to be exact) to output to monitor? I'd like to use both at the same time... would be really useful to me. Configuring myth using the TV can't be good for the eyes... Thanks. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] X output to both TV and monitor
Carlos Fernandez Sanz wrote: Hi, Is it possible to use a PVR-350 in X to output to TV and, at the same time, use a regular video card (an Nvidia FX 5200 to be exact) to output to monitor? I'd like to use both at the same time... would be really useful to me. Configuring myth using the TV can't be good for the eyes... How about this idea: I have a second computer running win98. Useing the X forwarding of my myth box I can configure it on Cygwin/X (with ssh) on the windows box. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] X output to both TV and monitor
Hi, Thought about this, but this doesn't output video, plus I'd like my setup not to assume that there's always a network available, or a monitor, etc... so if I could make it work with a TV or a monitor (whatever is available), that would be ideal. Thanks. Asciimonster wrote: Carlos Fernandez Sanz wrote: Hi, Is it possible to use a PVR-350 in X to output to TV and, at the same time, use a regular video card (an Nvidia FX 5200 to be exact) to output to monitor? I'd like to use both at the same time... would be really useful to me. Configuring myth using the TV can't be good for the eyes... How about this idea: I have a second computer running win98. Useing the X forwarding of my myth box I can configure it on Cygwin/X (with ssh) on the windows box. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] X output to both TV and monitor
Not sure how to display the same content to 2 different cards in one session. The nvidia driver is talking to 1 card so its easier. However why do that. You can always just run up a new mythfrontend to do the configuration stuff you need talking to the nvidia xserver when you need to do something and you don't have to worry about whatever may be happening on the tv output. One way to achieve a similar result is to use vnc to redisplay the 350's output onto the nvidias xserver. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:mythtv-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carlos Fernandez Sanz Sent: 02 January 2005 20:09 To: Discussion about mythtv Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] X output to both TV and monitor Hi, Thought about this, but this doesn't output video, plus I'd like my setup not to assume that there's always a network available, or a monitor, etc... so if I could make it work with a TV or a monitor (whatever is available), that would be ideal. Thanks. Asciimonster wrote: Carlos Fernandez Sanz wrote: Hi, Is it possible to use a PVR-350 in X to output to TV and, at the same time, use a regular video card (an Nvidia FX 5200 to be exact) to output to monitor? I'd like to use both at the same time... would be really useful to me. Configuring myth using the TV can't be good for the eyes... How about this idea: I have a second computer running win98. Useing the X forwarding of my myth box I can configure it on Cygwin/X (with ssh) on the windows box. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
