Re: [mythtv-users] YPrPb component out for MythTV
Thanks for the link to a SQUATTER SITE! But the first statement in the beginning of this thread was begging people DO NOT SUGGEST ALTERNATIVES! I don't want an additional piece of hardware (that requires it's own transformer) hanging off the back of a SFF HTPC! todd bailey wrote: allow me to add my 2 cents. all of the svga cards out today produce rgb + hv, ie red green blue and hor and vert sync. there are companies that have hardware that will take this format and convert it to component video. www.videoone.com for example has this hardware. find a video card chip set that is well supported and buy one of these converters and you'll be golden This mailbox protected from junk email by MailFrontier Desktop from MailFrontier, Inc. http://info.mailfrontier.com - Original Message - From: "James Oltman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Bruno Bronosky" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Discussion about mythtv" mythtv-users@mythtv.org Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] YPrPb component out for MythTV It should. The colors on the back of a TV or even on the back of the DVD player are Red, Green and blue. All should be well. On 7/29/05, Bruno Bronosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/a9jbh shows the cable to be colored R, G, B. Are you sure this thing can do YPrPb Component out? I visited the MSI page about the card, and it doesn't mention anything about the output format. THIS DRIVES ME CRAZY!!! All manufacturers do this. http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=NX6200AX-TD128class=vga James Oltman wrote: On 7/29/05, Richard Bronosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please no responses about transcoders or alternatives. I went through 39 pages of emails on http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/ last night trying to find a solution, but in every thread someone changes the subject. I'm looking for a video card or mother board with on-board video supported by MythTV that has simple YPrPb component output. I've seen a few cards from ATI, but I fear Linux support for those. I've also heard of a VIA or EPIA mother board that some guy was selling (several of), but I thought it was weird that the only outlet for the unit was an individual's blog. There has been lots of interest in component out over the past 2 years. Let's get a definitive answer into the threads, and put this one to rest. NVidia makes several cards that have component output on them. I do most of my shopping through www.newegg.com and they refer to it as HDTV out. I just posted a question yesterday regarding this card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814127174 It has the component outs on it. I figure I will probably have to run Powerstrip in Windows to get a good ModeLine for this card and my analog Sony Wega with component inputs. This card is capable of outputting 480i (Analog), 480p(DVD HighDef), 720p(HD), 1080i(HD). I plan on just using the 480i for now, but if I get an HD TV, there ya go! Jim ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users -- Thank you for your time, --== B r u n o B r o n o s k y ==-- Nearly all viruses and spyware are designed to use Microsoft internet products. Protect yourself by avoiding Internet Explorer Outlook/Outlook Express. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users -- Thank you for your time, --== R i c h a r d B r o n o s k y ==-- Nearly all viruses and spyware are designed to use Microsoft internet products. Protect yourself by avoiding Internet Explorer Outlook/Outlook Express. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] YPrPb component out for MythTV
I have a 6600GT from BFG Tech (model 6600 GTOC). It outputs component fine (mostly). I do have a bug that the VGA text output on DVI (dual screen mode), has funny colors when I'm also using the component (cloned dual screen). Text that should just be white on black is magenta in the middle. Weird, but readable. X looks fine. I can get 480p and 540p working fine. 1080i jitters up-down (like the interlace timing is wrong) on both DVI and component. I can't test 720p on my HDTV. I haven't been able to compensate for the overscan of the monitor at HDTV resolutions. Nvidia has a control for this, but it doesn't seem to have any effect in the HDTV modes. In text mode, the component output does correct for overscan but DVI doesn't. It's always nice to see the line you are typing. :-) If anyone has a working 1080i or a way to properly compensate for overscan, I'd love to hear it. -Dan On Friday 29 July 2005 05:07 pm, David Sims wrote: I have an nvidia 6200 card by Leadtek with component output capability. I have a problem getting video to play with the output set to 1080i. The X server displays fine, but when any video is played with Myth, mplayer, xine, etc. the X server locks up. I've seen postings from others with the same problem, but haven't seen any solutions. I'm holding out hope that nvidia will one day release a driver that will fix the problem. I think I have seen a posting from someone claiming that their 6800GT card with component out works fine. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] YPrPb component out for MythTV
On Saturday 30 July 2005 03:02, Tj NG wrote: Simon Kenyon wrote: my aopen i915GMm-HFS motherboard has compoent out (as well as s-video, dvi-d and vga). it also has gigabit ethernet, firewire, usb, and 7.1 audio (including sdpif in/out). it uses a pentium-m processor and most of the time the cpu fan doesn't spin. so it is very quiet. it has a pci-express slot and 2 pci slots. it makes a good myth motherboard, but it is expensive. it is not all plain sailing. the x server took a bit of work to do Xv and likewise it took some work to get alsa configured. finnaly, i don't have anything to test the component output with (yet). Nice, I like!! I'm thinking of doing the exact same setup you have. Is your P4m a FE/BE machine? Does it do HDTV effectively?? fe/be combined cannot test HDTV - only broadcaster here is euro1080 and i have no access i also have no hd display. looking at the CPU load for 720x576, X is using about 12% and mythfrontend is using about 10%. this is with analogue cable (crappy signal) and a PVR350 with a bitrate of 4500/6000 (default). if i drop that to 2000/3000, the CPU load for mythfrontend goes down to 7-8%. this is with a 1.87GHz pentium-M and 2x 512M DDR2 533 CL4 i would believe that this m/b should handle HDTV (and aopen says so also) -- simon ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] YPrPb component out for MythTV
James Oltman writes: j NVidia makes several cards that have component output on them. I do j most of my shopping through www.newegg.com and they refer to it as j HDTV out. I just posted a question yesterday regarding this card: j http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814127174 It looks like XV support is poor on nVidia's newer chips: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=8f9a3c82b629b39c19734d40e3315f68t=54336 If that thread is accurate, I think it means newer 6800 and all 6600 and 6200 cards. Does anyone know any different? I guess I didn't pay attention to the reports of people on this list having problems with these cards. I got a 6600 card and playing a 720p video at 720 or 1080 resolution just maxes out an Athlon64 3500 with the X server using more than 60% of the CPU. There are also no XV controls for brightness, saturation, etc. -- Gregorio Gervasio, Jr. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] YPrPb component out for MythTV
James Oltman wrote: On 7/29/05, Richard Bronosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm looking for a video card or mother board with on-board video supported by MythTV that has simple YPrPb component output. I've seen a few cards from ATI, but I fear Linux support for those. NVidia makes several cards that have component output on them. I do most of my shopping through www.newegg.com and they refer to it as HDTV out. I just posted a question yesterday regarding this card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814127174 I have this one in my current P4 2.4 machine: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681412 fanless nVidia 6200 based, came with component video output. It works great on my Samsung HDTV in 480p mode. 1080i mode works, but I am having a problem with Xv. With X in 1080i mode watching something in mplayer or mythtv X goes to ~100% CPU and I have to ssh and kill the X server. See this thread at nVidia forums: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=50221 Still haven't been able to spend any time getting my 667T frontend finished. I did get the 480p modes working, but haven't been able to make time to work on the 1080i modes. -- David http://mythhd.info ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] YPrPb component out for MythTV
fanless nVidia 6200 based, came with component video output. It works great on my Samsung HDTV in 480p mode. 1080i mode works, but I am having a problem with Xv. With X in 1080i mode watching something in mplayer or mythtv X goes to ~100% CPU and I have to ssh and kill the X server. See this thread at nVidia forums: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=50221 Have you tried setting RenderAccel to false in xorg.conf? Sounds a bit like that bug. Regards, Phill ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] YPrPb component out for MythTV
Phill Edwards wrote: fanless nVidia 6200 based, came with component video output. It works great on my Samsung HDTV in 480p mode. 1080i mode works, but I am having a problem with Xv. With X in 1080i mode watching something in mplayer or mythtv X goes to ~100% CPU and I have to ssh and kill the X server. See this thread at nVidia forums: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=50221 Have you tried setting RenderAccel to false in xorg.conf? Sounds a bit like that bug. Yep, tried that. Same problem. Besides in 7667 it is off by default. -- David ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] YPrPb component out for MythTV
Phill Edwards wrote: fanless nVidia 6200 based, came with component video output. It works great on my Samsung HDTV in 480p mode. 1080i mode works, but I am having a problem with Xv. With X in 1080i mode watching something in mplayer or mythtv X goes to ~100% CPU and I have to ssh and kill the X server. See this thread at nVidia forums: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=50221 Have you tried setting RenderAccel to false in xorg.conf? Sounds a bit like that bug. Yep, tried that. Same problem. Besides in 7667 it is off by default. -- David ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
[mythtv-users] YPrPb component out for MythTV
Please no responses about transcoders or alternatives. I went through 39 pages of emails on http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/ last night trying to find a solution, but in every thread someone changes the subject. I'm looking for a video card or mother board with on-board video supported by MythTV that has simple YPrPb component output. I've seen a few cards from ATI, but I fear Linux support for those. I've also heard of a VIA or EPIA mother board that some guy was selling (several of), but I thought it was weird that the only outlet for the unit was an individual's blog. There has been lots of interest in component out over the past 2 years. Let's get a definitive answer into the threads, and put this one to rest. -- Thank you for your time, --== R i c h a r d B r o n o s k y ==-- Nearly all viruses and spyware are designed to use Microsoft internet products. Protect yourself by avoiding Internet Explorer Outlook/Outlook Express. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] YPrPb component out for MythTV
BTW, the nVidia GeForce 6600/6600GT chipset seems to be capable of processing YPrPb in the GPU, but many manufacturers (like ASUS) choose not to enable YPrPb support out the DIN connector. If you know of a SPECIFIC video card manufacturer model that works well with Myth/Linux please chime in. Richard Bronosky wrote: Please no responses about transcoders or alternatives. I went through 39 pages of emails on http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/ last night trying to find a solution, but in every thread someone changes the subject. I'm looking for a video card or mother board with on-board video supported by MythTV that has simple YPrPb component output. I've seen a few cards from ATI, but I fear Linux support for those. I've also heard of a VIA or EPIA mother board that some guy was selling (several of), but I thought it was weird that the only outlet for the unit was an individual's blog. There has been lots of interest in component out over the past 2 years. Let's get a definitive answer into the threads, and put this one to rest. -- Thank you for your time, --== R i c h a r d B r o n o s k y ==-- Nearly all viruses and spyware are designed to use Microsoft internet products. Protect yourself by avoiding Internet Explorer Outlook/Outlook Express. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users -- Thank you for your time, --== R i c h a r d B r o n o s k y ==-- Nearly all viruses and spyware are designed to use Microsoft internet products. Protect yourself by avoiding Internet Explorer Outlook/Outlook Express. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] YPrPb component out for MythTV
On 7/29/05, Richard Bronosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please no responses about transcoders or alternatives. I went through 39 pages of emails on http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/ last night trying to find a solution, but in every thread someone changes the subject. I'm looking for a video card or mother board with on-board video supported by MythTV that has simple YPrPb component output. I've seen a few cards from ATI, but I fear Linux support for those. I've also heard of a VIA or EPIA mother board that some guy was selling (several of), but I thought it was weird that the only outlet for the unit was an individual's blog. There has been lots of interest in component out over the past 2 years. Let's get a definitive answer into the threads, and put this one to rest. NVidia makes several cards that have component output on them. I do most of my shopping through www.newegg.com and they refer to it as HDTV out. I just posted a question yesterday regarding this card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814127174 It has the component outs on it. I figure I will probably have to run Powerstrip in Windows to get a good ModeLine for this card and my analog Sony Wega with component inputs. This card is capable of outputting 480i (Analog), 480p(DVD HighDef), 720p(HD), 1080i(HD). I plan on just using the 480i for now, but if I get an HD TV, there ya go! Jim ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] YPrPb component out for MythTV
Check out Commell LV-667T (or 667E8T for fanless)mother board. Perfect for a HDTV frontend. I will be building two.. as soon as I get my backend finished and working. http://mythhd.info/ http://www.bwi.com/proot/12804 Have fun! On 7/29/05, Richard Bronosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please no responses about transcoders or alternatives. I went through 39 pages of emails on http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/ last night trying to find a solution, but in every thread someone changes the subject.I'm looking for a video card or mother board with on-board video supported by MythTV that has simple YPrPb component output. I've seen a few cards from ATI, but I fear Linux support for those. I've also heard of a VIA or EPIA mother board that some guy was selling (several of), but I thought it was weird that the only outlet for the unit was an individual's blog. There has been lots of interest in component out over the past 2 years. Let's get a definitive answer into the threads, and put this one to rest. -- Thank you for your time,--== R i c h a r d B r o n o s k y ==--Nearly all viruses and spyware are designed to use Microsoft internet products. Protect yourself by avoiding Internet Explorer Outlook/Outlook Express. ___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] YPrPb component out for MythTV
ToadMazter wrote: Check out Commell LV-667T (or 667E8T for fanless) mother board. Perfect for a HDTV frontend. I will be building two.. as soon as I get my backend finished and working. http://mythhd.info/ http://www.bwi.com/proot/12804 Have fun! You sure that thing has the horsepower to decode hdtv streams? ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] YPrPb component out for MythTV
On Friday 29 July 2005 14:22, Richard Bronosky wrote: Please no responses about transcoders or alternatives. I went through 39 pages of emails on http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/ last night trying to find a solution, but in every thread someone changes the subject. I'm looking for a video card or mother board with on-board video supported by MythTV that has simple YPrPb component output. I've seen a few cards from ATI, but I fear Linux support for those. I've also heard of a VIA or EPIA mother board that some guy was selling (several of), but I thought it was weird that the only outlet for the unit was an individual's blog. There has been lots of interest in component out over the past 2 years. Let's get a definitive answer into the threads, and put this one to rest. my aopen i915GMm-HFS motherboard has compoent out (as well as s-video, dvi-d and vga). it also has gigabit ethernet, firewire, usb, and 7.1 audio (including sdpif in/out). it uses a pentium-m processor and most of the time the cpu fan doesn't spin. so it is very quiet. it has a pci-express slot and 2 pci slots. it makes a good myth motherboard, but it is expensive. it is not all plain sailing. the x server took a bit of work to do Xv and likewise it took some work to get alsa configured. finnaly, i don't have anything to test the component output with (yet). i have mine in a silverstone 10M, with a PVR-350. regards -- simon ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] YPrPb component out for MythTV
On 7/29/05, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ToadMazter wrote: Check out Commell LV-667T (or 667E8T for fanless) mother board. Perfect for a HDTV frontend. I will be building two.. as soon as I get my backend finished and working. http://mythhd.info/ http://www.bwi.com/proot/12804 Have fun! You sure that thing has the horsepower to decode hdtv streams? Yes the chipset has hardware acceleration of HDTV sized MPEG2 streams as well as MPEG4 acceleration. HOWEVER the current crop of drivers don't support the component out or MPEG4 acceleration. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] YPrPb component out for MythTV
http://tinyurl.com/a9jbh shows the cable to be colored R, G, B. Are you sure this thing can do YPrPb Component out? I visited the MSI page about the card, and it doesn't mention anything about the output format. THIS DRIVES ME CRAZY!!! All manufacturers do this. http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=NX6200AX-TD128class=vga James Oltman wrote: On 7/29/05, Richard Bronosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please no responses about transcoders or alternatives. I went through 39 pages of emails on http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/ last night trying to find a solution, but in every thread someone changes the subject. I'm looking for a video card or mother board with on-board video supported by MythTV that has simple YPrPb component output. I've seen a few cards from ATI, but I fear Linux support for those. I've also heard of a VIA or EPIA mother board that some guy was selling (several of), but I thought it was weird that the only outlet for the unit was an individual's blog. There has been lots of interest in component out over the past 2 years. Let's get a definitive answer into the threads, and put this one to rest. NVidia makes several cards that have component output on them. I do most of my shopping through www.newegg.com and they refer to it as HDTV out. I just posted a question yesterday regarding this card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814127174 It has the component outs on it. I figure I will probably have to run Powerstrip in Windows to get a good ModeLine for this card and my analog Sony Wega with component inputs. This card is capable of outputting 480i (Analog), 480p(DVD HighDef), 720p(HD), 1080i(HD). I plan on just using the 480i for now, but if I get an HD TV, there ya go! Jim ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users -- Thank you for your time, --== R i c h a r d B r o n o s k y ==-- Nearly all viruses and spyware are designed to use Microsoft internet products. Protect yourself by avoiding Internet Explorer Outlook/Outlook Express. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] YPrPb component out for MythTV
Simon Kenyon wrote: my aopen i915GMm-HFS motherboard has compoent out (as well as s-video, dvi-d and vga). it also has gigabit ethernet, firewire, usb, and 7.1 audio (including sdpif in/out). it uses a pentium-m processor and most of the time the cpu fan doesn't spin. so it is very quiet. it has a pci-express slot and 2 pci slots. it makes a good myth motherboard, but it is expensive. it is not all plain sailing. the x server took a bit of work to do Xv and likewise it took some work to get alsa configured. finnaly, i don't have anything to test the component output with (yet). Nice, I like!! I'm thinking of doing the exact same setup you have. Is your P4m a FE/BE machine? Does it do HDTV effectively?? ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] YPrPb component out for MythTV
allow me to add my 2 cents. all of the svga cards out today produce rgb + hv, ie red green blue and hor and vert sync. there are companies that have hardware that will take this format and convert it to component video. www.videoone.com for example has this hardware. find a video card chip set that is well supported and buy one of these converters and you'll be golden This mailbox protected from junk email by MailFrontier Desktop from MailFrontier, Inc. http://info.mailfrontier.com - Original Message - From: James Oltman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Bruno Bronosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Discussion about mythtv mythtv-users@mythtv.org Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] YPrPb component out for MythTV It should. The colors on the back of a TV or even on the back of the DVD player are Red, Green and blue. All should be well. On 7/29/05, Bruno Bronosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/a9jbh shows the cable to be colored R, G, B. Are you sure this thing can do YPrPb Component out? I visited the MSI page about the card, and it doesn't mention anything about the output format. THIS DRIVES ME CRAZY!!! All manufacturers do this. http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=NX6200AX-TD128class=vga James Oltman wrote: On 7/29/05, Richard Bronosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please no responses about transcoders or alternatives. I went through 39 pages of emails on http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/ last night trying to find a solution, but in every thread someone changes the subject. I'm looking for a video card or mother board with on-board video supported by MythTV that has simple YPrPb component output. I've seen a few cards from ATI, but I fear Linux support for those. I've also heard of a VIA or EPIA mother board that some guy was selling (several of), but I thought it was weird that the only outlet for the unit was an individual's blog. There has been lots of interest in component out over the past 2 years. Let's get a definitive answer into the threads, and put this one to rest. NVidia makes several cards that have component output on them. I do most of my shopping through www.newegg.com and they refer to it as HDTV out. I just posted a question yesterday regarding this card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814127174 It has the component outs on it. I figure I will probably have to run Powerstrip in Windows to get a good ModeLine for this card and my analog Sony Wega with component inputs. This card is capable of outputting 480i (Analog), 480p(DVD HighDef), 720p(HD), 1080i(HD). I plan on just using the 480i for now, but if I get an HD TV, there ya go! Jim ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users -- Thank you for your time, --== B r u n o B r o n o s k y ==-- Nearly all viruses and spyware are designed to use Microsoft internet products. Protect yourself by avoiding Internet Explorer Outlook/Outlook Express. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.7/60 - Release Date: 7/28/2005 ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
