[mythtv-users] frontend crash during UK dvb-t playback - only at adverts

2005-09-20 Thread Alan Bates
hi all – I now have a stable dvb-t myth setup running on an up-to-date
fedora core system, using the hauppage nova-t. only major problem thus
far is:

watching certain UK channels, the frontend crashes when the commercial
break begins – happens both with recordings and livetv. channels
identified so far are channel4, e4/e4+1 and  abc1.

I suspect the reason is that these channels broadcast in a variety of
aspect ratios, and switch over at the start  of the adverts, causing a
break in the signal of some kind – i.e. main broadcast  is in 16:9,
channel ident may be in low-res 4:3, followed by ad in 16:9. this
often causes a broken keyframe (?) which the system struggles to
recover from, manifesting itself in a green frame, a period of
scrambled or non-existent audio, and quite often, the complete and
sudden death of the frontend. rest of the programme and other channels
are fine.

anyone else seeing  this behaviour or anything similar? let me know if
there's any debug info that'd  help…
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Re: [mythtv-users] frontend crash during UK dvb-t playback - only at adverts

2005-09-20 Thread David Watkins
On 20/09/05, Alan Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi all – I now have a stable dvb-t myth setup running on an up-to-date
 fedora core system, using the hauppage nova-t. only major problem thus
 far is:
 
 watching certain UK channels, the frontend crashes when the commercial
 break begins – happens both with recordings and livetv. channels
 identified so far are channel4, e4/e4+1 and  abc1.
 
 I suspect the reason is that these channels broadcast in a variety of
 aspect ratios, and switch over at the start  of the adverts, causing a
 break in the signal of some kind – i.e. main broadcast  is in 16:9,
 channel ident may be in low-res 4:3, followed by ad in 16:9. this
 often causes a broken keyframe (?) which the system struggles to
 recover from, manifesting itself in a green frame, a period of
 scrambled or non-existent audio, and quite often, the complete and
 sudden death of the frontend. rest of the programme and other channels
 are fine.
 
 anyone else seeing  this behaviour or anything similar? let me know if
 there's any debug info that'd  help…

I get the green frame and a bit of picture breakup, but no frontend crash.
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Re: [mythtv-users] frontend crash during UK dvb-t playback - only at adverts

2005-09-20 Thread Ciaran
I am also using nova-ts and have no problems on any of those channels
for what its worth! Bizarre!
On 20/09/05, Alan Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi all – I now have a stable dvb-t myth setup running on an up-to-date
 fedora core system, using the hauppage nova-t. only major problem thus
 far is:
 
 watching certain UK channels, the frontend crashes when the commercial
 break begins – happens both with recordings and livetv. channels
 identified so far are channel4, e4/e4+1 and  abc1.
 
 I suspect the reason is that these channels broadcast in a variety of
 aspect ratios, and switch over at the start  of the adverts, causing a
 break in the signal of some kind – i.e. main broadcast  is in 16:9,
 channel ident may be in low-res 4:3, followed by ad in 16:9. this
 often causes a broken keyframe (?) which the system struggles to
 recover from, manifesting itself in a green frame, a period of
 scrambled or non-existent audio, and quite often, the complete and
 sudden death of the frontend. rest of the programme and other channels
 are fine.
 
 anyone else seeing  this behaviour or anything similar? let me know if
 there's any debug info that'd  help…
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] frontend crash during UK dvb-t playback - only at adverts

2005-09-20 Thread Stephen Williams
On 9/20/05, Alan Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi all – I now have a stable dvb-t myth setup running on an up-to-date
 fedora core system, using the hauppage nova-t. only major problem thus
 far is:
 
 watching certain UK channels, the frontend crashes when the commercial
 break begins – happens both with recordings and livetv. channels
 identified so far are channel4, e4/e4+1 and  abc1.
 
 I suspect the reason is that these channels broadcast in a variety of
 aspect ratios, and switch over at the start  of the adverts, causing a
 break in the signal of some kind – i.e. main broadcast  is in 16:9,
 channel ident may be in low-res 4:3, followed by ad in 16:9. this
 often causes a broken keyframe (?) which the system struggles to
 recover from, manifesting itself in a green frame, a period of
 scrambled or non-existent audio, and quite often, the complete and
 sudden death of the frontend. rest of the programme and other channels
 are fine.
 
 anyone else seeing  this behaviour or anything similar? let me know if
 there's any debug info that'd  help…

I've been running 0.18 since it was released on DVB-T in the UK with a
(version 909) Nova-T. It's quite normal for the adverts and the actual
programme to be in different aspect ratios, at most I see the odd
green frame / short garbled video but very rarely.

You don't say what version of Myth you're running. The current SVN
head is undergoing a major DVB re-write so i'd use the 0.18-fixes
branch for a production system until that all settles down.

Have a look in the logs to see if there's anything useful, otherwise
try and get a backtrace (see the user guide for instructions).

Steve
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Re: [mythtv-users] frontend crash during UK dvb-t playback - only at adverts

2005-09-20 Thread Alan Bates
i'm running 0.18 - most recent one available for fc4. not certain
which version of the nova-t i'm running - uses tda1004 firmware, so
it's an oldish one i think. oddly, when i run the frontend from the
terminal to check what it reports, the frontend seems less inclined to
crash, but still has the audio problem - namely, sound drops out after
the green frame and there's an occasional crackle until either it
recovers itself or i skip forward then back.

in the frontend terminal at the point where the problem occurs it
reports: GetNextFreeFrame() - served a busy frame. Dropping

followed by a few prebuffering pauses.

i'll keep trying to kill it in terminal - if it remains more stable
i'll just change my startup to run it that way.

On 9/20/05, Stephen Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 9/20/05, Alan Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  hi all – I now have a stable dvb-t myth setup running on an up-to-date
  fedora core system, using the hauppage nova-t. only major problem thus
  far is:
 
  watching certain UK channels, the frontend crashes when the commercial
  break begins – happens both with recordings and livetv. channels
  identified so far are channel4, e4/e4+1 and  abc1.
 
  I suspect the reason is that these channels broadcast in a variety of
  aspect ratios, and switch over at the start  of the adverts, causing a
  break in the signal of some kind – i.e. main broadcast  is in 16:9,
  channel ident may be in low-res 4:3, followed by ad in 16:9. this
  often causes a broken keyframe (?) which the system struggles to
  recover from, manifesting itself in a green frame, a period of
  scrambled or non-existent audio, and quite often, the complete and
  sudden death of the frontend. rest of the programme and other channels
  are fine.
 
  anyone else seeing  this behaviour or anything similar? let me know if
  there's any debug info that'd  help…

 I've been running 0.18 since it was released on DVB-T in the UK with a
 (version 909) Nova-T. It's quite normal for the adverts and the actual
 programme to be in different aspect ratios, at most I see the odd
 green frame / short garbled video but very rarely.

 You don't say what version of Myth you're running. The current SVN
 head is undergoing a major DVB re-write so i'd use the 0.18-fixes
 branch for a production system until that all settles down.

 Have a look in the logs to see if there's anything useful, otherwise
 try and get a backtrace (see the user guide for instructions).

 Steve

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Re: [mythtv-users] frontend crash during UK dvb-t playback - only at adverts

2005-09-20 Thread Alan Bates
ok - bit more info. editing some of the setup options changed the
behaviour. disabling extra audio buffering in tv playback options
means the loss of audio does not occur at the commercial break. great!
but the reason it's enabled is because if it's not, playback loses
audio, crackles AND video ffwds at some points - seemingly random
although changing aspect ratio manually makes it happen. points to an
audio/buffer problem?

On 9/20/05, Alan Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i'm running 0.18 - most recent one available for fc4. not certain
 which version of the nova-t i'm running - uses tda1004 firmware, so
 it's an oldish one i think. oddly, when i run the frontend from the
 terminal to check what it reports, the frontend seems less inclined to
 crash, but still has the audio problem - namely, sound drops out after
 the green frame and there's an occasional crackle until either it
 recovers itself or i skip forward then back.

 in the frontend terminal at the point where the problem occurs it
 reports: GetNextFreeFrame() - served a busy frame. Dropping

 followed by a few prebuffering pauses.

 i'll keep trying to kill it in terminal - if it remains more stable
 i'll just change my startup to run it that way.

 On 9/20/05, Stephen Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 9/20/05, Alan Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   hi all – I now have a stable dvb-t myth setup running on an up-to-date
   fedora core system, using the hauppage nova-t. only major problem thus
   far is:
  
   watching certain UK channels, the frontend crashes when the commercial
   break begins – happens both with recordings and livetv. channels
   identified so far are channel4, e4/e4+1 and  abc1.
  
   I suspect the reason is that these channels broadcast in a variety of
   aspect ratios, and switch over at the start  of the adverts, causing a
   break in the signal of some kind – i.e. main broadcast  is in 16:9,
   channel ident may be in low-res 4:3, followed by ad in 16:9. this
   often causes a broken keyframe (?) which the system struggles to
   recover from, manifesting itself in a green frame, a period of
   scrambled or non-existent audio, and quite often, the complete and
   sudden death of the frontend. rest of the programme and other channels
   are fine.
  
   anyone else seeing  this behaviour or anything similar? let me know if
   there's any debug info that'd  help…
 
  I've been running 0.18 since it was released on DVB-T in the UK with a
  (version 909) Nova-T. It's quite normal for the adverts and the actual
  programme to be in different aspect ratios, at most I see the odd
  green frame / short garbled video but very rarely.
 
  You don't say what version of Myth you're running. The current SVN
  head is undergoing a major DVB re-write so i'd use the 0.18-fixes
  branch for a production system until that all settles down.
 
  Have a look in the logs to see if there's anything useful, otherwise
  try and get a backtrace (see the user guide for instructions).
 
  Steve
 

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Re: [mythtv-users] frontend crash during UK dvb-t playback - only at adverts

2005-09-20 Thread Nick
On 20/09/05, Alan Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ok - bit more info. editing some of the setup options changed the
 behaviour. disabling extra audio buffering in tv playback options
 means the loss of audio does not occur at the commercial break. great!
 but the reason it's enabled is because if it's not, playback loses
 audio, crackles AND video ffwds at some points - seemingly random
 although changing aspect ratio manually makes it happen. points to an
 audio/buffer problem?

I would check to make sure you are using a newish (=1.0.8, likely if
using atrpms) version of ALSA and see if this helps at all. Disable
arts too as this can cause problems. I don't have any of these issues
using the new Nova-T (909 or 90002 model). Does this behaviour still
occur if you manually override the AR changing in frontend setup?

Nick
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Re: [mythtv-users] frontend crash during UK dvb-t playback - only at adverts

2005-09-20 Thread Alan Bates
stephen - switching to ts mode has improved things somewhat. still
needs extra buffering to avoid the random glitches but ratio changes
in stream are coped with now (so far :) )

nick - i'm running on OSS - alsa wasn't happening for me when i set
this box up (pundit-r). maybe i need to retry. arts is disabled afaik.

here's what showed up when it crashed in ps mode for what it's worth :
*** glibc detected *** mythfrontend: free(): invalid next size
(normal): 0x0a4aa410 ***
=== Backtrace: =
/lib/libc.so.6[0x9e4424]
/lib/libc.so.6(__libc_free+0x77)[0x9e495f]
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6(_ZdlPv+0x21)[0xcad669]
/usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6(_ZdaPv+0x1d)[0xcad6b5]
/usr/lib/libmythtv-0.18.1.so.0(_ZN10OSDSurfaceD1Ev+0x22)[0x67539d4]
=== Memory map: 
00101000-0014b000 r-xp  16:03 2528602   
/usr/lib/libmythavformat-0.18.1.so.0.18.1
0014b000-0014e000 rwxp 0004a000 16:03 2528602   
/usr/lib/libmythavformat-0.18.1.so.0.18.1
0014e000-00376000 r-xp  16:03 2527177   
/usr/lib/libmythavcodec-0.18.1.so.0.18.1
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/usr/lib/libmythavcodec-0.18.1.so.0.18.1
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0072b000-007aa000 r-xp  16:03 2526918 Aborted

On 9/20/05, Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 20/09/05, Alan Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  ok - bit more info. editing some of the setup options changed the
  behaviour. disabling extra audio buffering in tv playback options
  means the loss of audio does not occur at the commercial break. great!
  but the reason it's