Re: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend laptop linux distro???

2006-01-22 Thread Paul Bender
mike choy wrote:
> Paul Bender wrote:
> 
>>Gavin Haslett wrote:
>>  
>>
>>>To hell with distributions... Download the source and compile it
>>>yourselves!!! Wimps!!! ;) 
>>>
>>
>>That's what I do.
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> I agreeThe SUSE Source 8-)

That's like making pancakes from Bisquick: sure they are not as bad as 
frozen, but they are not as good as your own recipe. 8-)
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Re: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend laptop linux distro???

2006-01-22 Thread mike choy
Paul Bender wrote:
> Gavin Haslett wrote:
>   
>> To hell with distributions... Download the source and compile it
>> yourselves!!! Wimps!!! ;) 
>> 
>
> That's what I do.
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I agreeThe SUSE Source 8-)

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Re: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend laptop linux distro???

2006-01-22 Thread Paul Bender
Gavin Haslett wrote:
> To hell with distributions... Download the source and compile it
> yourselves!!! Wimps!!! ;) 

That's what I do.
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Re: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend laptop linux distro???

2006-01-22 Thread Gavin Haslett
To hell with distributions... Download the source and compile it
yourselves!!! Wimps!!! ;) 

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Re: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend laptop linux distro???

2006-01-22 Thread Brian Wood

On Jan 22, 2006, at 4:14 AM, Rudy Zijlstra wrote:

> Mathew Mrosko wrote:
>
>> On Sunday 22 January 2006 1:54 am, Rudy Zijlstra wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Mathew Mrosko wrote:
>>>
>>>
 On Saturday 21 January 2006 11:09 am, mike choy wrote:


> Matt wrote:
>
>
>> I think the days of "what distro is best"
>> is out the window.  Ask a group of 10 people and you'll get 10
>> different answers when it comes to distros.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
> I  Agree... its SUSE :-)
>
> Mike C
>
>
 nope, it's GENTOO

 (2 down, 8 to go)

 Mat


>>> Nagh, all you new-fangled players, its Slackware of course ! :-)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/slackware.jpg
>>
>> In case you haven't seen that :)
>>
>> Mat
>>
>>
> Thats about when i started using Slackware Pat is still keeping  
> up!


Gee - nobody's even mentioned YGGDRASIL, wonder whatever happened to  
that one?

I remember when the Infomagic Developer's CD set went from 2 to 3  
disks, and we all thought that things were really getting out of hand...
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Re: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend laptop linux distro???

2006-01-22 Thread Rudy Zijlstra
Mathew Mrosko wrote:

>On Sunday 22 January 2006 1:54 am, Rudy Zijlstra wrote:
>  
>
>>Mathew Mrosko wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Saturday 21 January 2006 11:09 am, mike choy wrote:
>>>  
>>>
Matt wrote:


>I think the days of "what distro is best"
>is out the window.  Ask a group of 10 people and you'll get 10
>different answers when it comes to distros.
>
>Matt
>  
>
I  Agree... its SUSE :-)

Mike C


>>>nope, it's GENTOO
>>>
>>>(2 down, 8 to go)
>>>
>>>Mat
>>>  
>>>
>>Nagh, all you new-fangled players, its Slackware of course ! :-)
>>
>>
>
>http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/slackware.jpg
>
>In case you haven't seen that :)
>
>Mat
>  
>
Thats about when i started using Slackware Pat is still keeping up!
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Re: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend laptop linux distro???

2006-01-22 Thread Mathew Mrosko
On Sunday 22 January 2006 1:54 am, Rudy Zijlstra wrote:
> Mathew Mrosko wrote:
> >On Saturday 21 January 2006 11:09 am, mike choy wrote:
> >>Matt wrote:
> >>>I think the days of "what distro is best"
> >>>is out the window.  Ask a group of 10 people and you'll get 10
> >>>different answers when it comes to distros.
> >>>
> >>>Matt
> >>
> >>I  Agree... its SUSE :-)
> >>
> >>Mike C
> >
> >nope, it's GENTOO
> >
> >(2 down, 8 to go)
> >
> >Mat
>
> Nagh, all you new-fangled players, its Slackware of course ! :-)

http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/slackware.jpg

In case you haven't seen that :)

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Re: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend laptop linux distro???

2006-01-22 Thread A Thomson
Jos Hoekstra wrote:

>Mathew Mrosko schreef:
>  
>
>>On Saturday 21 January 2006 11:09 am, mike choy wrote:
>>  
>>
>>
>>>Matt wrote:
>>>
>>>  
>>>
I think the days of "what distro is best"
is out the window.  Ask a group of 10 people and you'll get 10
different answers when it comes to distros.

Matt
  


>>>I  Agree... its SUSE :-)
>>>
>>>Mike C
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>nope, it's GENTOO
>>
>>(2 down, 8 to go)
>>
>>Mat
>>  
>>
>>
>
>Ubuntu is sweet as laptop-distro as well.
>
>(3 down, 7 to go)
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It's Definately GENTOO!
:-) :-)
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Re: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend laptop linux distro???

2006-01-22 Thread mike choy
Rudy Zijlstra wrote:
> Mathew Mrosko wrote:
>
>   
>> On Saturday 21 January 2006 11:09 am, mike choy wrote:
>>  
>>
>> 
>>> Matt wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>   
 I think the days of "what distro is best"
 is out the window.  Ask a group of 10 people and you'll get 10
 different answers when it comes to distros.

 Matt
  

 
>>> I  Agree... its SUSE :-)
>>>
>>> Mike C
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>> nope, it's GENTOO
>>
>> (2 down, 8 to go)
>>
>> Mat
>>  
>>
>> 
> Nagh, all you new-fangled players, its Slackware of course ! :-)
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(4 down 6 to go) cause we know Jarrod wanted to say Fedora :-)
Looks like you ARE right Matt

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Re: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend laptop linux distro???

2006-01-22 Thread Rudy Zijlstra
Mathew Mrosko wrote:

>On Saturday 21 January 2006 11:09 am, mike choy wrote:
>  
>
>>Matt wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I think the days of "what distro is best"
>>>is out the window.  Ask a group of 10 people and you'll get 10
>>>different answers when it comes to distros.
>>>
>>>Matt
>>>  
>>>
>>I  Agree... its SUSE :-)
>>
>>Mike C
>>
>>
>
>nope, it's GENTOO
>
>(2 down, 8 to go)
>
>Mat
>  
>
Nagh, all you new-fangled players, its Slackware of course ! :-)
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Re: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend laptop linux distro???

2006-01-22 Thread Jarod Wilson
On Sunday 22 January 2006 01:16, Mathew Mrosko wrote:
> On Saturday 21 January 2006 11:09 am, mike choy wrote:
> > Matt wrote:
> > > I think the days of "what distro is best"
> > > is out the window.  Ask a group of 10 people and you'll get 10
> > > different answers when it comes to distros.
> > >
> > > Matt
> >
> > I  Agree... its SUSE :-)
> >
> > Mike C
>
> nope, it's GENTOO
>
> (2 down, 8 to go)

The correct answer is "whatever you're most comfortable with". Well, unless 
whatever you're comfortable with just plain doesn't work. Then the answer is 
42.

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Re: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend laptop linux distro???

2006-01-22 Thread Jos Hoekstra
Mathew Mrosko schreef:
> On Saturday 21 January 2006 11:09 am, mike choy wrote:
>   
>> Matt wrote:
>> 
>>> I think the days of "what distro is best"
>>> is out the window.  Ask a group of 10 people and you'll get 10
>>> different answers when it comes to distros.
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>   
>> I  Agree... its SUSE :-)
>>
>> Mike C
>> 
>
> nope, it's GENTOO
>
> (2 down, 8 to go)
>
> Mat
>   

Ubuntu is sweet as laptop-distro as well.

(3 down, 7 to go)
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Re: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend laptop linux distro???

2006-01-22 Thread Mathew Mrosko
On Saturday 21 January 2006 11:09 am, mike choy wrote:
> Matt wrote:
> > I think the days of "what distro is best"
> > is out the window.  Ask a group of 10 people and you'll get 10
> > different answers when it comes to distros.
> >
> > Matt
>
> I  Agree... its SUSE :-)
>
> Mike C

nope, it's GENTOO

(2 down, 8 to go)

Mat
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Re: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend laptop linux distro???

2006-01-21 Thread mike choy
Matt wrote:
> there's always knoppmyth.  But as you can see from everyone elses
> reply: pick what you want!  I think the days of "what distro is best"
> is out the window.  Ask a group of 10 people and you'll get 10
> different answers when it comes to distros.
>
> Matt
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I  Agree... its SUSE :-)

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Re: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend laptop linux distro???

2006-01-21 Thread Matt
there's always knoppmyth.  But as you can see from everyone elses
reply: pick what you want!  I think the days of "what distro is best"
is out the window.  Ask a group of 10 people and you'll get 10
different answers when it comes to distros.

Matt
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Re: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend laptop linux distro???

2006-01-21 Thread Rick van der Mieden
Florin Andrei wrote:

>On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 22:04 +0100, Rick van der Mieden wrote:
>  
>
>>  
>>How's fedora nowadays. is it the same story as with the
>>dependencies of suse?
>>
>>
>
>I'm using mythfrontend on a laptop running Fedora 4.
>No dependecy problems with Fedora anymore since they started to use yum.
>
>To install MythTV on Fedora, just follow Jarod's HOWTO:
>
>http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php
>
>  
>
Thanks for all the reactions. I installed ubuntu and it's workink like a
charm. I've got still some thinks to tackle with installing the best ati
driver, but I'll figure that out when I've some time left.
I'm thinking of installing ubuntu on the backend as well, because X on
my current gentoo backend/frontend connected to my TV is crashing all
the time when and I'm sick and tired of it. But again, a day has only 24
hours. I'll probably come back to you all if I get stuck with some
ubuntu driver issue or whatever.

Regards,

Rick
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Re: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend laptop linux distro???

2006-01-17 Thread Florin Andrei
On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 22:04 +0100, Rick van der Mieden wrote:
>   
> How's fedora nowadays. is it the same story as with the
> dependencies of suse?

I'm using mythfrontend on a laptop running Fedora 4.
No dependecy problems with Fedora anymore since they started to use yum.

To install MythTV on Fedora, just follow Jarod's HOWTO:

http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php

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Re: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend laptop linux distro???

2006-01-15 Thread Nick
On 16/01/06, Dewey Smolka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How's fedora nowadays. is it the same story as with the dependencies of
> > suse?
>
> I've had no problem with either FC3 or FC4 in a dual-boot notebook
> (Compaq EVO n800c) -- everything including the touchpad worked out of
> the box. I think the only real hardware problem Linux has with laptops
> these days is with embedded wireless devices, which my notebook
> doesn't have.
>
> I was able to set up and run Myth frontends on both with little
> problem just by following Jarod Wilson's guide.

Same here running a RHEL4 notebook - took a little tinkering getting
the IPW2200 wireless working, but no problems at all. I'm interested
in the reasons people suggest against installing/using Fedora/RedHat -
I've not had any problems with them (currently using FC2/FC4/RHEL4
MythTV systems).

The one overriding issue I (and most DVB/ivtv users) have faced is
getting their respective modules playing nicely together. Now that the
ivtv project is being integrated in to the kernel this should become a
thing of the past.

On my laptop, the only devices not usable are the memory card reader
and the smartcard reader, which I can live with.

Nick
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Re: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend laptop linux distro???

2006-01-15 Thread Dewey Smolka
> How's fedora nowadays. is it the same story as with the dependencies of
> suse?

I've had no problem with either FC3 or FC4 in a dual-boot notebook
(Compaq EVO n800c) -- everything including the touchpad worked out of
the box. I think the only real hardware problem Linux has with laptops
these days is with embedded wireless devices, which my notebook
doesn't have.

I was able to set up and run Myth frontends on both with little
problem just by following Jarod Wilson's guide.
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Re: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend laptop linux distro???

2006-01-15 Thread Lonnie Borntreger
On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 22:04 +0100, Rick van der Mieden wrote:
> I need some opinions here please.
>  
> I'd like to install a linux distro on my laptop for daily usage and
> for a mythfrontend. Question is what is the best suitable distro for
> my laptop. I tried suse in the past, but I hate all those "missing
> dependencies" with installing rpms. Gentoo is great (my backend is
> running on it), but the emerging of kde errored after compiling of a
> complete day!!! So not an option for me anymore. Knoppmyth is more for
> a cd frontend and not appropiate for my dual booted laptop I think.
>  
> How's fedora nowadays. is it the same story as with the
> dependencies of suse?
>  
> Some experiences are welcome

I run Mandriva on my Compaq 1250 (1GHz mobile Athlon) with 128M RAM and
use that as a MythTV frontend when in my office doing work with my
desktop.  No problems at all.

Lonnie Borntreger



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Re: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend laptop linux distro???

2006-01-15 Thread mike choy
Gavin Haslett wrote:
> I've got two laptops that run Fedora 4 and Knoppix. By far the better 
> of the two on the frontend duties is the Knoppix box... but that's a 
> more powerful machine.
>  
> My Fedora laptop is actually only a PIII-class CPU (500Mhz), but with 
> a nice trim config (XFCE instead of one of the heavy WM's) the 
> performance is more than acceptable. Runs Myth playback pretty well 
> for SD, but for HD I wouldn't even attempt it.
>  
> Depends a lot on what kind of stuff you're going to do with it. I use 
> my laptop primarily for "Office-type" applications; Email, Web, word 
> processing etc... I only really use Myth on my laptops for editing 
> video (creating cutlists, not cutting video).
>
> 
> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Rick van der 
> Mieden
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 15, 2006 3:04 PM
> *To:* 'Discussion about mythtv'
> *Subject:* [mythtv-users] mythfrontend laptop linux distro???
>
> I need some opinions here please.
>  
> I'd like to install a linux distro on my laptop for daily usage and 
> for a mythfrontend. Question is what is the best suitable distro for 
> my laptop. I tried suse in the past, but I hate all those "missing 
> dependencies" with installing rpms. Gentoo is great (my backend is 
> running on it), but the emerging of kde errored after compiling of a 
> complete day!!! So not an option for me anymore. Knoppmyth is more for 
> a cd frontend and not appropiate for my dual booted laptop I think.
>  
> How's fedora nowadays. is it the same story as with the 
> dependencies of suse?
>  
> Some experiences are welcome
>  
> Regards
>  
> Rick
> 
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Suse 10 is going v nice here, dependancy issues are mainly due to not 
setting up your on line repositories right.
get them sorted, and you will find it a doddle especially as yast gives 
you options to overide as needed. I moved from
fedora core 4 because I found what redhat did with the build trees and 
source code was a bit of a pain.

Sorry to plug the website but its all here.
http://www.acaciaclose.co.uk

Mike C

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Re: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend laptop linux distro???

2006-01-15 Thread Gavin Haslett



I've got two laptops that run Fedora 4 and Knoppix. By far 
the better of the two on the frontend duties is the Knoppix box... but that's a 
more powerful machine.
 
My Fedora laptop is actually only a PIII-class CPU 
(500Mhz), but with a nice trim config (XFCE instead of one of the heavy WM's) 
the performance is more than acceptable. Runs Myth playback pretty well for SD, 
but for HD I wouldn't even attempt it.
 
Depends a lot on what kind of stuff you're going to do with 
it. I use my laptop primarily for "Office-type" applications; Email, Web, word 
processing etc... I only really use Myth on my laptops for editing video 
(creating cutlists, not cutting video).


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick van der 
MiedenSent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 3:04 PMTo: 
'Discussion about mythtv'Subject: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend laptop 
linux distro???

I need some opinions 
here please.
 
I'd like to install 
a linux distro on my laptop for daily usage and for a mythfrontend. Question is 
what is the best suitable distro for my laptop. I tried suse in the past, but I 
hate all those "missing dependencies" with installing rpms. Gentoo is great (my 
backend is running on it), but the emerging of kde errored after compiling of a 
complete day!!! So not an option for me anymore. Knoppmyth is more for a cd 
frontend and not appropiate for my dual booted laptop I 
think.
 
How's fedora 
nowadays. is it the same story as with the dependencies of 
suse?
 
Some experiences are welcome
 
Regards
 
Rick
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Re: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend laptop linux distro???

2006-01-15 Thread Stuart Fox

> I need some opinions here please.
>
> I'd like to install a linux distro on my laptop for daily usage and for a
> mythfrontend. Question is what is the best suitable distro for my laptop.
> I
> tried suse in the past, but I hate all those "missing dependencies" with
> installing rpms. Gentoo is great (my backend is running on it), but the
> emerging of kde errored after compiling of a complete day!!! So not an
> option for me anymore. Knoppmyth is more for a cd frontend and not
> appropiate for my dual booted laptop I think.
>
> How's fedora nowadays. is it the same story as with the dependencies
> of
> suse?
>
> Some experiences are welcome
>
> Regards
>
> Rick
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My personal fav is linuxfromscratch, you make the system to exactly how
you want it.

I would steer clear of RH based distro's (centos, mandrake,suse etc) and
probably go for debian is i HAD to use a distro

Stuart


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Re: [mythtv-users] mythfrontend laptop linux distro???

2006-01-15 Thread Craig Tinson
Rick van der Mieden wrote:

> I need some opinions here please.
>  
> I'd like to install a linux distro on my laptop for daily usage and 
> for a mythfrontend. Question is what is the best suitable distro for 
> my laptop. I tried suse in the past, but I hate all those "missing 
> dependencies" with installing rpms. Gentoo is great (my backend is 
> running on it), but the emerging of kde errored after compiling of a 
> complete day!!! So not an option for me anymore. Knoppmyth is more for 
> a cd frontend and not appropiate for my dual booted laptop I think.
>  
> How's fedora nowadays. is it the same story as with the 
> dependencies of suse?
>  
> Some experiences are welcome
>  
> Regards
>  
> Rick


consider Ubuntu - great distro with no real dep problems and is good as 
both a desktop os and for running frontend (I run both backend and 
frontends on my network here)

hth

Craig


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[mythtv-users] mythfrontend laptop linux distro???

2006-01-15 Thread Rick van der Mieden



I need some opinions 
here please.
 
I'd like to install 
a linux distro on my laptop for daily usage and for a mythfrontend. Question is 
what is the best suitable distro for my laptop. I tried suse in the past, but I 
hate all those "missing dependencies" with installing rpms. Gentoo is great (my 
backend is running on it), but the emerging of kde errored after compiling of a 
complete day!!! So not an option for me anymore. Knoppmyth is more for a cd 
frontend and not appropiate for my dual booted laptop I 
think.
 
How's fedora 
nowadays. is it the same story as with the dependencies of 
suse?
 
Some experiences are welcome
 
Regards
 
Rick
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