Re: [mythtv-users] nuvexport and ffmpeg on Ubuntu

2006-01-15 Thread Matt 
On 1/15/06, Michael Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/13/06, Chris Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > don't denoise, or use --transcode
>
> Chris,
>
> Thought I'd mention someothing else. On the weekend, I did a nuvexport
> (using ffmpeg as I passed no commad line arguments). And the mpg file
> given looked okay, but no commerical cuts were done. (this process
> took 24mins)
>
> So I did an nuvexport --transcode (however after about 20 hours the
> export still wasn't complete) Is that normal?
>
> Thanks

Transcode takes FOREVER on XviD encodes for me too...

Matt
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Re: [mythtv-users] nuvexport and ffmpeg on Ubuntu

2006-01-15 Thread Matt 
On 1/12/06, Chris Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I added checks for the yuvdenoise version and send the CLI options
> according to which version is being run.
>
> -Chris

Chris,

   Did you find out why I was getting those errors when it was
checking yuvdenoise version?

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/171281?#171281

BTW, I'm also running ubuntu, but I'm not running apt packages of
ffmpeg, I'm running CVS.

Thanks!
Matt
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Re: [mythtv-users] nuvexport and ffmpeg on Ubuntu

2006-01-15 Thread Michael Fox 
On 1/16/06, Chris Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > So commercial flagging is not the same as cutlist? Then how does the
> > commercial flagging  become a cutlist to honour at export.
>
> flagging is just flagging.  mythtranscode has a --gencutlist option to
> import the flag list as a cutlist (I still need to include this in
> nuvexport), or if you're like me and don't trust the flagging to be
> completely accurate (it's not), start watching the show in the frontend,
> press E to edit, then Z to import the flag list as a cutlist, then
> adjust it as needed and press E to exit back to watching (then esc to go
> back to the menu)...

Indeed, dont trust it. It sometimes works and sometimes dont. Thanks
for the commands above, I will give it a go.

I live in Oz, so umm the flagging sometimes works and sometimes don't :)
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Re: [mythtv-users] nuvexport and ffmpeg on Ubuntu

2006-01-15 Thread Chris Petersen 
> So commercial flagging is not the same as cutlist? Then how does the
> commercial flagging  become a cutlist to honour at export.

flagging is just flagging.  mythtranscode has a --gencutlist option to 
import the flag list as a cutlist (I still need to include this in 
nuvexport), or if you're like me and don't trust the flagging to be 
completely accurate (it's not), start watching the show in the frontend, 
press E to edit, then Z to import the flag list as a cutlist, then 
adjust it as needed and press E to exit back to watching (then esc to go 
back to the menu)...

-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] nuvexport and ffmpeg on Ubuntu

2006-01-15 Thread Michael Fox 
On 1/16/06, Chris Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I had a movie with 10 flagged commericals sections. When I converted
> > to mpg using nuxexport with no options (thus using ffmpeg) the cutlist
> > of those 10 flagged sections were not removed.
>
> flag != cutlist.

So commercial flagging is not the same as cutlist? Then how does the
commercial flagging  become a cutlist to honour at export.

Hopefully that makes sense.
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Re: [mythtv-users] nuvexport and ffmpeg on Ubuntu

2006-01-15 Thread Chris Petersen 
> I had a movie with 10 flagged commericals sections. When I converted
> to mpg using nuxexport with no options (thus using ffmpeg) the cutlist
> of those 10 flagged sections were not removed.

flag != cutlist.

You also have to tell nuvexport to to use the cutlist.  If you did all 
of that and it still didn't work, something's likely up with that 
particular recording and freaking out mythtranscode.

> ipod output would be handy too. If you need any testing, then just
> give us a yell. Would be happy to help in anyway possible.

Yeah, working on that, too.  my ipod can't play videos, so it's low on 
my list until someone sends me a patch.

-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] nuvexport and ffmpeg on Ubuntu

2006-01-15 Thread Michael Fox 
On 1/16/06, Chris Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > So it will complete. Hrmm. Its just too slow, think I'd sooner not use
> > it. Although that means at the cost of not having the cut list taken
> > into account.
>
> cutlist should work fine with ffmpeg.

I had a movie with 10 flagged commericals sections. When I converted
to mpg using nuxexport with no options (thus using ffmpeg) the cutlist
of those 10 flagged sections were not removed.

I've just installed the latest nuvexport and will rerun again.

>
> > It would appear the ubuntu ffmpeg build doesn't support psp, ipod
> > nuvexport options. Not compiled with the right switches.
>
> these are semi-broken in nuvexport, too..  they don't work when they
> should.  I'm working on some PSP patches right now, actually..  but you
> still need `ffmpeg -formats` to list PSP as an option. (dunno what to do
> yet about ipod).

ipod output would be handy too. If you need any testing, then just
give us a yell. Would be happy to help in anyway possible.
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Re: [mythtv-users] nuvexport and ffmpeg on Ubuntu

2006-01-15 Thread Chris Petersen 
> So it will complete. Hrmm. Its just too slow, think I'd sooner not use
> it. Although that means at the cost of not having the cut list taken
> into account.

cutlist should work fine with ffmpeg.

> It would appear the ubuntu ffmpeg build doesn't support psp, ipod
> nuvexport options. Not compiled with the right switches.

these are semi-broken in nuvexport, too..  they don't work when they 
should.  I'm working on some PSP patches right now, actually..  but you 
still need `ffmpeg -formats` to list PSP as an option. (dunno what to do 
yet about ipod).


-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] nuvexport and ffmpeg on Ubuntu

2006-01-15 Thread Michael Fox 
On 1/16/06, Chris Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > So I did an nuvexport --transcode (however after about 20 hours the
> > export still wasn't complete) Is that normal?
>
> transcode is slightly slower than ffmpeg for most stuff, significantly
> slower for mpeg stuff.  imho, the quality from transcode is better, though.

So it will complete. Hrmm. Its just too slow, think I'd sooner not use
it. Although that means at the cost of not having the cut list taken
into account.

It would appear the ubuntu ffmpeg build doesn't support psp, ipod
nuvexport options. Not compiled with the right switches.

I am coming to the conclusion that in some cases I will be better off
building my own. Guess I will go do some reading.

My wife is thinking of buying a PSP, so it might be handy to export
into PSP format.

Thanks
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Re: [mythtv-users] nuvexport and ffmpeg on Ubuntu

2006-01-15 Thread Chris Petersen 
> So I did an nuvexport --transcode (however after about 20 hours the
> export still wasn't complete) Is that normal?

transcode is slightly slower than ffmpeg for most stuff, significantly 
slower for mpeg stuff.  imho, the quality from transcode is better, though.

-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] nuvexport and ffmpeg on Ubuntu

2006-01-15 Thread Michael Fox 
On 1/13/06, Chris Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> don't denoise, or use --transcode

Chris,

Thought I'd mention someothing else. On the weekend, I did a nuvexport
(using ffmpeg as I passed no commad line arguments). And the mpg file
given looked okay, but no commerical cuts were done. (this process
took 24mins)

So I did an nuvexport --transcode (however after about 20 hours the
export still wasn't complete) Is that normal?

Thanks
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Re: [mythtv-users] nuvexport and ffmpeg on Ubuntu

2006-01-12 Thread Michael Fox 
On 1/13/06, Chris Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yep, I just downloaded it about 2 mins before posting the message.
>
> crap, means I missed something...  it's supposed to detect that version
> and not run the -r option for it.  Will debug more when I have time.

That's cool. By not selecting denoise, it goes off and does something.
And I just produced some mpeg files by that method.

I will download the package again incase I got unlucky and grabbed a
copy just before you finished uploading it or something.

Will grab again and test some more tonight when I get home. Just stuck
at work currently, although about 2 hrs of work to go then I can go
home. Finally the end of another week.
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Re: [mythtv-users] nuvexport and ffmpeg on Ubuntu

2006-01-12 Thread Chris Petersen 
> Yep, I just downloaded it about 2 mins before posting the message.

crap, means I missed something...  it's supposed to detect that version 
and not run the -r option for it.  Will debug more when I have time.

-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] nuvexport and ffmpeg on Ubuntu

2006-01-12 Thread Michael Fox 
On 1/13/06, Chris Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You fixed nuvexport or mjpegtools? I am a little confused by your statement.
>
> Well, since I'm the author of nuvexport, and don't have a clue about
> mjpegtools, I'll let you figure that out.

Yeah noticed after I grabbed the nuvexport, that the domains matched.

>
> I added checks for the yuvdenoise version and send the CLI options
> according to which version is being run.

Good idea.

I skipped denoise option and its doing something and I can see a mpg
file being created, will see how it goes.

I should really learn how to cut ads using the mythtv editor mode. I
guess I can eventually.

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Re: [mythtv-users] nuvexport and ffmpeg on Ubuntu

2006-01-12 Thread Michael Fox 
On 1/13/06, Chris Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I just installed some tools to use nuvexport, and then grabbed the
> > latest nuvexport.
> >
> >INFO: [yuvdenoise] mjpeg-tools yuvdenoise version 1.6.3-rc2
> > --
> > yuvdenoise: invalid option -- r
>
> Are you sure you have the latest nuvexport?

Yep, I just downloaded it about 2 mins before posting the message.

>
> http://forevermore.net/files/nuvexport/
>
> > Atleast it dont bomb with an error about using an rc2 release..  Got
> > some suggestions to fix?
>
> don't denoise, or use --transcode
>
> -Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] nuvexport and ffmpeg on Ubuntu

2006-01-12 Thread Chris Petersen 
> You fixed nuvexport or mjpegtools? I am a little confused by your statement.

Well, since I'm the author of nuvexport, and don't have a clue about 
mjpegtools, I'll let you figure that out.

I added checks for the yuvdenoise version and send the CLI options 
according to which version is being run.

-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] nuvexport and ffmpeg on Ubuntu

2006-01-12 Thread Chris Petersen 
> I just installed some tools to use nuvexport, and then grabbed the
> latest nuvexport.
> 
>INFO: [yuvdenoise] mjpeg-tools yuvdenoise version 1.6.3-rc2
> --
> yuvdenoise: invalid option -- r

Are you sure you have the latest nuvexport?

http://forevermore.net/files/nuvexport/

> Atleast it dont bomb with an error about using an rc2 release..  Got
> some suggestions to fix?

don't denoise, or use --transcode

-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] nuvexport and ffmpeg on Ubuntu

2006-01-12 Thread Michael Fox 
On 1/13/06, Chris Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not anymore it doesn't.  I fixed that last week (or so).

You fixed nuvexport or mjpegtools? I am a little confused by your statement.

>
> The issues I run into are that mpeg is patent-encumbered and thus not
> compatible with the GPL, so distros have to remove any mpeg (including
> mp3) support from official packages.  Should be something in multiverse
> that works, though.  But I don't use ubuntu for my mythtv stuff, so I
> wouldn't really know.
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Re: [mythtv-users] nuvexport and ffmpeg on Ubuntu

2006-01-12 Thread Michael Fox 
On 1/13/06, Chris Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I believe the problem is the mjpegtools package, as it includes a bad
> > version of yuvdenoise program which is an rc2 release and nuvexport
> > complains.
>
> Not anymore it doesn't.  I fixed that last week (or so).
>
> The issues I run into are that mpeg is patent-encumbered and thus not
> compatible with the GPL, so distros have to remove any mpeg (including
> mp3) support from official packages.  Should be something in multiverse
> that works, though.  But I don't use ubuntu for my mythtv stuff, so I
> wouldn't really know.

I just installed some tools to use nuvexport, and then grabbed the
latest nuvexport.

Attempting to use it produces the output below;

Encode started:  Fri Jan 13 13:03:48 2006
Waiting for mythtranscode to set up the fifos.
Starting ffmpeg.
processed:  0 of 0 frames (0.00%),   0.00 fpsINFO: [yuvdenoise]
--
   INFO: [yuvdenoise] mjpeg-tools yuvdenoise version 1.6.3-rc2
   INFO: [yuvdenoise]
--
yuvdenoise: invalid option -- r
processed:  0 of 0 frames (0.00%),   0.00 fps


And it just sits around doing nothing?

Atleast it dont bomb with an error about using an rc2 release..  Got
some suggestions to fix?
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Re: [mythtv-users] nuvexport and ffmpeg on Ubuntu

2006-01-12 Thread Chris Petersen 
> I believe the problem is the mjpegtools package, as it includes a bad
> version of yuvdenoise program which is an rc2 release and nuvexport
> complains.

Not anymore it doesn't.  I fixed that last week (or so).

The issues I run into are that mpeg is patent-encumbered and thus not 
compatible with the GPL, so distros have to remove any mpeg (including 
mp3) support from official packages.  Should be something in multiverse 
that works, though.  But I don't use ubuntu for my mythtv stuff, so I 
wouldn't really know.

-Chris
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Re: [mythtv-users] nuvexport and ffmpeg on Ubuntu

2006-01-12 Thread Michael Fox 
On 1/13/06, Intense Red <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I've got MythTV happily running on Ubuntu, with the instructions cited on
> . Now I've got to play with something else -- in
> this case, nuvexport. :-)

I got mythtv working on Ubuntu Breezy also.

>
>Instructions on  note that
> there is a problem with Ubuntu's ffmpeg and nuvexport, and recommend running
> an older version. My problem is that I cannot locate the "working" version of
> ffmpeg.

I believe the problem is the mjpegtools package, as it includes a bad
version of yuvdenoise program which is an rc2 release and nuvexport
complains. I been trying to find a backported package that will work
on Breezy and had no luck.

I also tried to compile it, but then got other errors. It's something
I am yet to do more work on.

>
>Does anyone running Ubuntu (Breezy) have nuvexport running?  If so, what
> version of ffmpeg are you using and do you have a URL of where one can D/L
> the *.deb of that ffmpeg version?
>

If you get your nuvexport working on Breezy, let me know. I will do
the same if I get mine to work also :)

> Thanks in advance.
>
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[mythtv-users] nuvexport and ffmpeg on Ubuntu

2006-01-12 Thread Intense Red 
   I've got MythTV happily running on Ubuntu, with the instructions cited on 
. Now I've got to play with something else -- in 
this case, nuvexport. :-)

   Instructions on  note that 
there is a problem with Ubuntu's ffmpeg and nuvexport, and recommend running 
an older version. My problem is that I cannot locate the "working" version of 
ffmpeg.

   Does anyone running Ubuntu (Breezy) have nuvexport running?  If so, what 
version of ffmpeg are you using and do you have a URL of where one can D/L 
the *.deb of that ffmpeg version?

Thanks in advance.

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birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations which dare already to 
challenge our Government to trial and bid defiance to the laws of our 
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