Re: [mythtv-users] stable and bleeding edge together peacefully?
On Thursday 24 November 2005 7:39, David Raine wrote: I just got the 0.18.1 working (from .deb) on a fresh debian sid install (after giving up on KnoppMyth R22) and I am wondering whether it is possible to compile and install the SVN head so it would be able to coexist on the same setup where I got the 0.18.1 stable working? Note that puting SVN to /usr/local (while the stable lays in /usr) and renaming the database (I don't mind keeping two databases) might not be enough so I decided to ask if someone runs such setup successfully. I have both on my system - 0.18.1 for the g/f (stable, no change to behaviour) and latest SVN for when she's out and I can try out the bleeding edge. I installed one to prefix=/usr/local/mythSVN and the other to prefix=/usr/local/mythSTABLE. I then have a script that removes and recreates symlinks to /usr/local/myth as required - this way I don't have to change the PATH for the mythytv user. I do have to re-run ldconfig after the symlinks are set up to make sure the libraries are referenced OK. This is *exactly* what GNU stow is for. http://www.gnu.org/software/stow/ -JAC ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] stable and bleeding edge together peacefully?
On Thursday 24 November 2005 7:39, David Raine wrote: I just got the 0.18.1 working (from .deb) on a fresh debian sid install (after giving up on KnoppMyth R22) and I am wondering whether it is possible to compile and install the SVN head so it would be able to coexist on the same setup where I got the 0.18.1 stable working? Note that puting SVN to /usr/local (while the stable lays in /usr) and renaming the database (I don't mind keeping two databases) might not be enough so I decided to ask if someone runs such setup successfully. I have both on my system - 0.18.1 for the g/f (stable, no change to behaviour) and latest SVN for when she's out and I can try out the bleeding edge. I installed one to prefix=/usr/local/mythSVN and the other to prefix=/usr/local/mythSTABLE. I then have a script that removes and recreates symlinks to /usr/local/myth as required - this way I don't have to change the PATH for the mythytv user. I do have to re-run ldconfig after the symlinks are set up to make sure the libraries are referenced OK. This is *exactly* what GNU stow is for. http://www.gnu.org/software/stow/ What about the MySQL database - from 0.18.1 to SVN head there are incompatabilities aren't there? Do you rename the relevant directory containing the database (mythconverg) and restart the mysql server or what? -- Robin Gilks ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] stable and bleeding edge together peacefully?
Robin Gilks wrote: On Thursday 24 November 2005 7:39, David Raine wrote: I just got the 0.18.1 working (from .deb) on a fresh debian sid install (after giving up on KnoppMyth R22) and I am wondering whether it is possible to compile and install the SVN head so it would be able to coexist on the same setup where I got the 0.18.1 stable working? Note that puting SVN to /usr/local (while the stable lays in /usr) and renaming the database (I don't mind keeping two databases) might not be enough so I decided to ask if someone runs such setup successfully. I have both on my system - 0.18.1 for the g/f (stable, no change to behaviour) and latest SVN for when she's out and I can try out the bleeding edge. I installed one to prefix=/usr/local/mythSVN and the other to prefix=/usr/local/mythSTABLE. I then have a script that removes and recreates symlinks to /usr/local/myth as required - this way I don't have to change the PATH for the mythytv user. I do have to re-run ldconfig after the symlinks are set up to make sure the libraries are referenced OK. This is *exactly* what GNU stow is for. http://www.gnu.org/software/stow/ What about the MySQL database - from 0.18.1 to SVN head there are incompatabilities aren't there? Do you rename the relevant directory containing the database (mythconverg) and restart the mysql server or what? Well, I personally don't run concurrent versions that have incompatible database schemas. Presumably you'd have to fuss about with dump/restore. -JAC ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] stable and bleeding edge together peacefully?
I just got the 0.18.1 working (from .deb) on a fresh debian sid install (after giving up on KnoppMyth R22) and I am wondering whether it is possible to compile and install the SVN head so it would be able to coexist on the same setup where I got the 0.18.1 stable working? Note that puting SVN to /usr/local (while the stable lays in /usr) and renaming the database (I don't mind keeping two databases) might not be enough so I decided to ask if someone runs such setup successfully. I have both on my system - 0.18.1 for the g/f (stable, no change to behaviour) and latest SVN for when she's out and I can try out the bleeding edge. I installed one to prefix=/usr/local/mythSVN and the other to prefix=/usr/local/mythSTABLE. I then have a script that removes and recreates symlinks to /usr/local/myth as required - this way I don't have to change the PATH for the mythytv user. I do have to re-run ldconfig after the symlinks are set up to make sure the libraries are referenced OK. Yes, two databases are required. Regards David ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] stable and bleeding edge together peacefully?
David Raine píše v Čt 24. 11. 2005 v 12:39 +: possible to compile and install the SVN head so it would be able to coexist on the same setup where I got the 0.18.1 stable working? I installed one to prefix=/usr/local/mythSVN and the other to prefix=/usr/local/mythSTABLE. I then have a script that removes and recreates symlinks to /usr/local/myth as required - this way I don't have to change the PATH for the mythytv user so you added /usr/local/myth/bin to your $PATH? I do have to re-run ldconfig after the symlinks are set up to make sure the libraries are referenced OK. What if you had two user accounts: stable and svn and their $PATH pointed to /usr/local/mythSTABLE/bin (mythSVN respectively) directly? That would save you the ldconfig, I guess. Pity I got the 0.18.1 installed to /usr/bin. I cannot unsymlink that path :-) Now I would have to rely on the precedence of /usr/local/bin if PATH=/usr/local/bin:$PATH. However, if myth keeps the same names for all binaries this *could* work. What do you think? Petr ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] stable and bleeding edge together peacefully?
possible to compile and install the SVN head so it would be able to coexist on the same setup where I got the 0.18.1 stable working? I installed one to prefix=/usr/local/mythSVN and the other to prefix=/usr/local/mythSTABLE. I then have a script that removes and recreates symlinks to /usr/local/myth as required - this way I don't have to change the PATH for the mythytv user so you added /usr/local/myth/bin to your $PATH? yes. I do have to re-run ldconfig after the symlinks are set up to make sure the libraries are referenced OK. What if you had two user accounts: stable and svn and their $PATH pointed to /usr/local/mythSTABLE/bin (mythSVN respectively) directly? That would save you the ldconfig, I guess. But then, I'd have to make sure that the gdm startup and backend startup stuff was using the same PATH, for me it was easier to build 0.18.1 and latest SVN and then, using the symlinks, I was guaranteed that I was using the latest libs. I also had all sorts of problems when the shared loader could see both libraries. Now, I just run a script mythswitch SVN|STABLE and all gets reset. Pity I got the 0.18.1 installed to /usr/bin. I cannot unsymlink that path :-) Now I would have to rely on the precedence of /usr/local/bin if PATH=/usr/local/bin:$PATH. However, if myth keeps the same names for all binaries this *could* work. What do you think? Build 0.18 from source and install in /usr/local/mythX - once you have everything working, remove the relevant files from /usr/bin, /usr/lib, etc. - ie, do a manual unistall. You will find these files in /usr/local/mythX/bin, lib. You can rely on PATH precedence for the binaries but not for the shared libs. ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
RE: [mythtv-users] stable and bleeding edge together peacefully?
David Raine píše v Čt 24. 11. 2005 v 13:42 +: But then, I'd have to make sure that the gdm startup and backend startup stuff was using the same PATH, for me it was easier to build 0.18.1 and latest SVN and then, using the symlinks, I was guaranteed that I was using the latest libs. True, the libs! I also had all sorts of problems when the shared loader could see both libraries. I realized that changing $PATH didn't help for /etc/ld.so.conf... As well as I can't hide myth libs from /usr/lib. Uninstalling the packages is the only choice. Build 0.18 from source and install in /usr/local/mythX - once you have everything working, remove the relevant files from /usr/bin, /usr/lib, etc. - ie, do a manual unistall. apt-get remove mythtv will do. You can rely on PATH precedence for the binaries but not for the shared libs. Yes. Thanks. Petr ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
