Re: [mythtv-users] CPU for spftware MPEG-4 encoding

2005-04-06 Thread David Blackwell
Using a pvr-350 I am running livetv with recording on a p2 400 with
256 megs of ram

David

On Apr 6, 2005 9:24 AM, Chris Picton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Quick question
 
 What are the minimum CPU requirements for live tv MPEG4 encoding.
 
 Or rather, who has the slowest system, running mpeg-4 encoding and
 decoding in software.
 
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Re: [mythtv-users] CPU for spftware MPEG-4 encoding

2005-04-06 Thread Morten Rønseth




But a PVR-350 both encodes  decodes in hardware...


Cheers,


-Morten

David Blackwell wrote:

  Using a pvr-350 I am running livetv with recording on a p2 400 with
256 megs of ram

David

On Apr 6, 2005 9:24 AM, Chris Picton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
Quick question

What are the minimum CPU requirements for live tv MPEG4 encoding.

Or rather, who has the slowest system, running mpeg-4 encoding and
decoding in software.

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Re: [mythtv-users] CPU for spftware MPEG-4 encoding

2005-04-06 Thread Mark Cooke
*grrr for top posting*

The PVR250/350 is MPEG2, not MPEG4 as the poster asked.

I transcode from an MPEG2 PVR250 stream at 4mbit/sec, 720x576 to MPEG4
1000kbit/sec 360x288 on my system, and it seems to do about 20 frames
per second.

This is a P4-2GHz.

Playback of the resulting file uses around 20-30%

So it is my experience that transcoding is not realtime on my PC, but
playback is.  Recording from raw frames to MPEG4 might be easier on the
PC than transcoding.

HTH

Mark

On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 15:34 +0200, Morten Rønseth wrote:
 But a PVR-350 both encodes  decodes in hardware...
 
 
 Cheers,
 
 
 -Morten
 
 David Blackwell wrote: 
  Using a pvr-350 I am running livetv with recording on a p2 400 with
  256 megs of ram
  
  David
  
  On Apr 6, 2005 9:24 AM, Chris Picton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Quick question
   
   What are the minimum CPU requirements for live tv MPEG4 encoding.
   
   Or rather, who has the slowest system, running mpeg-4 encoding and
   decoding in software.
   
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Re: [mythtv-users] CPU for spftware MPEG-4 encoding

2005-04-06 Thread Jos Hoekstra
David Blackwell schreef:
Using a pvr-350 I am running livetv with recording on a p2 400 with
256 megs of ram
David
On Apr 6, 2005 9:24 AM, Chris Picton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quick question
What are the minimum CPU requirements for live tv MPEG4 encoding.
Or rather, who has the slowest system, running mpeg-4 encoding and
decoding in software.
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PVR350 spits out MPEG2, for MPEG4 a faster cpu is needed. Even though I 
don't use mpeg4 recording I can point you to:

http://pvrhw.goldfish.org/tiki-pvrhwdb.php
There's a database with hard and software used by several PVR users.
hth,
Jos
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Re: [mythtv-users] CPU for spftware MPEG-4 encoding

2005-04-06 Thread David Blackwell
On Apr 6, 2005 9:44 AM, Mark Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 *grrr for top posting*
 
 The PVR250/350 is MPEG2, not MPEG4 as the poster asked.
 
 I transcode from an MPEG2 PVR250 stream at 4mbit/sec, 720x576 to MPEG4
 1000kbit/sec 360x288 on my system, and it seems to do about 20 frames
 per second.
 
 This is a P4-2GHz.
 
 Playback of the resulting file uses around 20-30%
 
 So it is my experience that transcoding is not realtime on my PC, but
 playback is.  Recording from raw frames to MPEG4 might be easier on the
 PC than transcoding.
 
 HTH
 
 Mark
 
 On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 15:34 +0200, Morten Rønseth wrote:
  But a PVR-350 both encodes  decodes in hardware...
 
 
  Cheers,
 
 
  -Morten
 
  David Blackwell wrote:
   Using a pvr-350 I am running livetv with recording on a p2 400 with
   256 megs of ram
  
   David
  
   On Apr 6, 2005 9:24 AM, Chris Picton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quick question
   
What are the minimum CPU requirements for live tv MPEG4 encoding.
   
Or rather, who has the slowest system, running mpeg-4 encoding and
decoding in software.
   
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Bottom post :-)
so he did.. Sorry I read and replied so fast.
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Re: [mythtv-users] CPU for spftware MPEG-4 encoding

2005-04-06 Thread David
thanks  for being so thoughtful as to top-post - it makes it much easier 
to read the replies when you don't have to scroll down through the stuff 
you just read a few seconds before...

(yes, this is a troll - as is any post that whines about top/bottom 
posting without itself doing any trimming)

Mark Cooke wrote:
*grrr for top posting*
The PVR250/350 is MPEG2, not MPEG4 as the poster asked.
I transcode from an MPEG2 PVR250 stream at 4mbit/sec, 720x576 to MPEG4
1000kbit/sec 360x288 on my system, and it seems to do about 20 frames
per second.
This is a P4-2GHz.
Playback of the resulting file uses around 20-30%
So it is my experience that transcoding is not realtime on my PC, but
playback is.  Recording from raw frames to MPEG4 might be easier on the
PC than transcoding.
HTH
Mark
On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 15:34 +0200, Morten Rønseth wrote:
 

But a PVR-350 both encodes  decodes in hardware...
Cheers,
-Morten
David Blackwell wrote: 
   

Using a pvr-350 I am running livetv with recording on a p2 400 with
256 megs of ram
David
On Apr 6, 2005 9:24 AM, Chris Picton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Quick question
What are the minimum CPU requirements for live tv MPEG4 encoding.
Or rather, who has the slowest system, running mpeg-4 encoding and
decoding in software.
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Re: [mythtv-users] CPU for spftware MPEG-4 encoding

2005-04-06 Thread David
David Blackwell wrote:
On Apr 6, 2005 9:44 AM, Mark Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

*grrr for top posting*
The PVR250/350 is MPEG2, not MPEG4 as the poster asked.
I transcode from an MPEG2 PVR250 stream at 4mbit/sec, 720x576 to MPEG4
1000kbit/sec 360x288 on my system, and it seems to do about 20 frames
per second.
This is a P4-2GHz.
Playback of the resulting file uses around 20-30%
So it is my experience that transcoding is not realtime on my PC, but
playback is.  Recording from raw frames to MPEG4 might be easier on the
PC than transcoding.
HTH
Mark
On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 15:34 +0200, Morten Rønseth wrote:
   

But a PVR-350 both encodes  decodes in hardware...
Cheers,
-Morten
David Blackwell wrote:
 

Using a pvr-350 I am running livetv with recording on a p2 400 with
256 megs of ram
David
On Apr 6, 2005 9:24 AM, Chris Picton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   

Quick question
What are the minimum CPU requirements for live tv MPEG4 encoding.
Or rather, who has the slowest system, running mpeg-4 encoding and
decoding in software.
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Bottom post :-)
so he did.. Sorry I read and replied so fast.
David
 

ah - much more thoughtful - that only took 4 scrolls of the mouse wheel 
to get down to the reply

(yes, this is a troll - as is any post that whines about top/bottom 
posting without itself doing any trimming)

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Re: [mythtv-users] CPU for spftware MPEG-4 encoding

2005-04-06 Thread Morten Rønseth
Wow - thanks to you guys I now know what top/bottom posting 
is...imagine, I've been doing this for years without knowing (what an 
ignorant twat I've been).

Cheers,
-Morten still-top-posting-keeping-up-long-establshed-traditions
David wrote:
David Blackwell wrote:
On Apr 6, 2005 9:44 AM, Mark Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

*grrr for top posting*
The PVR250/350 is MPEG2, not MPEG4 as the poster asked.
I transcode from an MPEG2 PVR250 stream at 4mbit/sec, 720x576 to MPEG4
1000kbit/sec 360x288 on my system, and it seems to do about 20 frames
per second.
This is a P4-2GHz.
Playback of the resulting file uses around 20-30%
So it is my experience that transcoding is not realtime on my PC, but
playback is.  Recording from raw frames to MPEG4 might be easier on the
PC than transcoding.
HTH
Mark
On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 15:34 +0200, Morten Rønseth wrote:
  

But a PVR-350 both encodes  decodes in hardware...
Cheers,
-Morten
David Blackwell wrote:


Using a pvr-350 I am running livetv with recording on a p2 400 with
256 megs of ram
David
On Apr 6, 2005 9:24 AM, Chris Picton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Quick question
What are the minimum CPU requirements for live tv MPEG4 encoding.
Or rather, who has the slowest system, running mpeg-4 encoding and
decoding in software.
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Bottom post :-)
so he did.. Sorry I read and replied so fast.
David
 

ah - much more thoughtful - that only took 4 scrolls of the mouse 
wheel to get down to the reply

(yes, this is a troll - as is any post that whines about top/bottom 
posting without itself doing any trimming)

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Re: [mythtv-users] CPU for spftware MPEG-4 encoding

2005-04-06 Thread Jeff Simpson
On Apr 6, 2005 10:10 AM, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 David Blackwell wrote:
 
 On Apr 6, 2005 9:44 AM, Mark Cooke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 *grrr for top posting*
 
 The PVR250/350 is MPEG2, not MPEG4 as the poster asked.
 
 I transcode from an MPEG2 PVR250 stream at 4mbit/sec, 720x576 to MPEG4
 1000kbit/sec 360x288 on my system, and it seems to do about 20 frames
 per second.
 
 This is a P4-2GHz.
 
 Playback of the resulting file uses around 20-30%
 
 So it is my experience that transcoding is not realtime on my PC, but
 playback is.  Recording from raw frames to MPEG4 might be easier on the
 PC than transcoding.
 
 HTH
 
 Mark
 
 On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 15:34 +0200, Morten Rønseth wrote:
 
 
 But a PVR-350 both encodes  decodes in hardware...
 
 
 Cheers,
 
 
 -Morten
 
 David Blackwell wrote:
 
 
 Using a pvr-350 I am running livetv with recording on a p2 400 with
 256 megs of ram
 
 David
 
 On Apr 6, 2005 9:24 AM, Chris Picton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Quick question
 
 What are the minimum CPU requirements for live tv MPEG4 encoding.
 
 Or rather, who has the slowest system, running mpeg-4 encoding and
 decoding in software.
 
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 Bottom post :-)
 so he did.. Sorry I read and replied so fast.
 David
 
 
 
 
 ah - much more thoughtful - that only took 4 scrolls of the mouse wheel
 to get down to the reply
 
 (yes, this is a troll - as is any post that whines about top/bottom
 posting without itself doing any trimming)
 
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haha, I use gmail, so top and bottom posts all just say - Show quoted
text - as a little tiny link instead of showing ANY of the quoted
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Re: [mythtv-users] CPU for spftware MPEG-4 encoding

2005-04-06 Thread David Rees
On Apr 6, 2005 7:13 AM, Morten Rønseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Wow - thanks to you guys I now know what top/bottom posting
 is...imagine, I've been doing this for years without knowing (what an
 ignorant twat I've been).
 
 Cheers,
 
 -Morten still-top-posting-keeping-up-long-establshed-traditions

If you're going to top post, at least trim off some of the
un-necessary crap you quoted below it!

-Dave

PS - Bottom posting along with proper trimming of messages has long
been considered proper netiquette.  See the following for helpful
instructions:

http://earlydues.hispeed.com/ieel/netiquette.htm#quote
http://lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml
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Re: [mythtv-users] CPU for spftware MPEG-4 encoding

2005-04-06 Thread Morten Rønseth
Hi Dave,
If you're going to top post, at least trim off some of the
Sure, no prob. I'll keep that in mind.
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