Re: [mythtv-users] Debian problems
George thank you, I do not get errors on the atp-get update anymore. I do not get MYTHTV packages in the list though :( debian-test:~# apt-get install mythtv Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done E: Couldn't find package mythtv this is my soources.list # deb file:///cdrom/ sarge main deb ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ stable main deb-src ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ stable main deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main #From Mailer help # unstable deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main # testing deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main # stable deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main # For MythTV deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv On Nov 1, 2005, at 8:55 PM, George Nassas wrote: On 1-Nov-05, at 8:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: W: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable/ main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.nerim.net_debian- marillat_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) seems to be an issue with nerim.net ??? Cristian rearranged the archive over the summer. Take what's appropriate from these lines: # unstable deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main # testing deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main # stable deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main - George ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users From: Kevin Cossaboon Home MAC Mini Computer http://www.cossaboon.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Debian problems
On 2-Nov-05, at 9:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not get MYTHTV packages in the list though :( # For MythTV deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv I'd guess you need to make that a deb entry to get binary packages. - George ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Debian problems
Thank you, again... one more step forward.now I am hitting the dependance issues that I have read in other threads :(debian-test:~# apt-get install mythtvReading Package Lists... DoneBuilding Dependency Tree... DoneSome packages could not be installed. This may mean that you haverequested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstabledistribution that some required packages have not yet been createdor been moved out of Incoming.Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely thatthe package is simply not installable and a bug report againstthat package should be filed.The following information may help to resolve the situation:The following packages have unmet dependencies: mythtv: Depends: mythtv-frontend (= 0.18.1-5) but it is not going to be installed Depends: mythtv-backend (= 0.18.1-5) but it is not going to be installedE: Broken packagesdebian-test:~# I can see the value in KnoppMyth, but, this is a great learning experience, and I thank all those who help.On Nov 2, 2005, at 9:54 AM, George Nassas wrote:On 2-Nov-05, at 9:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not get MYTHTV packages in the list though :(# For MythTVdeb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv I'd guess you need to make that a deb entry to get binary packages.- George___mythtv-users mailing listmythtv-users@mythtv.orghttp://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users From: Kevin Cossaboon Home MAC Mini Computer http://www.cossaboon.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Debian problems
I am trying to build Myth on Debian I added the deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable maindeb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtvto sources.listand I getdebian-test:~# apt-get updateGet:1 ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable/main Packages Hit ftp://mirrors.kernel.org stable/main Packages Err ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable/main Packages Unable to fetch file, server said 'Can't open /debian-marillat/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: No such file or directory ' [IP: 62.4.17.14 21]Hit ftp://mirrors.kernel.org stable/main Release Hit ftp://mirrors.kernel.org stable/main Sources Get:2 ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable/main Release Hit ftp://mirrors.kernel.org stable/main Release Ign ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable/main Release Hit http://security.debian.org stable/updates/main Packages Hit http://security.debian.org stable/updates/main Release Get:3 http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu unstable/mythtv Sources [877B] Ign http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu unstable/mythtv ReleaseFetched 877B in 15s (55B/s)Failed to fetch ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Unable to fetch file, server said 'Can't open /debian-marillat/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: No such file or directory ' [IP: 62.4.17.14 21]Reading Package Lists... DoneW: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.nerim.net_debian-marillat_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)W: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.nerim.net_debian-marillat_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problemsE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.debian-test:~# ---seems to be an issue with nerim.net ???On Oct 24, 2005, at 9:59 AM, Dave Sherohman wrote:deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv From: Kevin Cossaboon Home MAC Mini Computer http://www.cossaboon.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Debian problems
On 1-Nov-05, at 8:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: W: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.nerim.net_debian- marillat_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) seems to be an issue with nerim.net ??? Cristian rearranged the archive over the summer. Take what's appropriate from these lines: # unstable deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main # testing deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main # stable deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main - George ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Debian problems
On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 08:55:42PM -0500, George Nassas wrote: Cristian rearranged the archive over the summer. Take what's appropriate from these lines: # unstable deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main # testing deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main # stable deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main If you would rather track stable/testing/unstable directly, you can also use the symlinks he has put in place so that his site follows the Debian convention. These sources go to the same place as yours but don't need to be updated every time a new release name is assigned (assuming he changes his symlinks). deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian/ testing main contrib non-free deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian/ stable main contrib non-free ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Debian problems
On 1-Nov-05, at 10:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you can also use the symlinks he has put in place Cool, I didn't know that they were back. There was a month or so where you had to use the release names. - George ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Debian problems
On Sunday 23 October 2005 9:36 pm, Paul Pick wrote: I had to build my own plugins, but using the mdz sources made that a snap. Can you please give some details here? I haven't had any luck building the plugins :( Cheers, James -- James Grant Lightbox Technologies Inc. http://www.lightbox.org 613-294-3670 ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Debian problems
On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 09:35:24AM -0400, James Grant wrote: On Sunday 23 October 2005 9:36 pm, Paul Pick wrote: I had to build my own plugins, but using the mdz sources made that a snap. Can you please give some details here? I haven't had any luck building the plugins :( I got my main mythtv install off debs at deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv but apt-cache search couldn't find mythplugins there, so I just downloaded the tarball off mythtv.org, built according to the instructions in the FAQ, and copied the mythtv directories under /usr/local to the corresponding locations under /usr and it worked just fine. (Well, worked just fine until I pressed 'M' in the mythweather setup screen, at which point it segfaulted and now continues to segfault on startup if I have any plugins other than mythweather in /usr/lib/mythtv/plugins/, but that seems unlikely to be a Debian-related issue.) -- The freedoms that we enjoy presently are the most important victories of the White Hats over the past several millennia, and it is vitally important that we don't give them up now, only because we are frightened. - Eolake Stobblehouse (http://stobblehouse.com/text/battle.html) ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Debian problems
On 10/24/05, Dave Sherohman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 09:35:24AM -0400, James Grant wrote: On Sunday 23 October 2005 9:36 pm, Paul Pick wrote: I had to build my own plugins, but using the mdz sources made that a snap. Can you please give some details here? I haven't had any luck building the plugins :( I got my main mythtv install off debs at deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv but apt-cache search couldn't find mythplugins there How hard were you looking? :) http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian/dists/unstable/mythtv/source/ does contain the plugins source package which can be recompiled without any real problems. If you're using Debian testing (possibly unstable too), feel free not to bother and use my recompiled packages instead. Replace your mythtv binary apt source with ... deb http://alexfisher.me.uk/debian testing main Then again, I've only got 256kbit upload so it might be quicker to recompile yourself! Cheers, Alex ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Debian problems
On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 04:23:34PM +0100, Alexander Fisher wrote: On 10/24/05, Dave Sherohman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got my main mythtv install off debs at deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv but apt-cache search couldn't find mythplugins there How hard were you looking? :) # apt-get update ... # apt-cache search plugin | grep myth # That hard. http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian/dists/unstable/mythtv/source/ does contain the plugins source package which can be recompiled without any real problems. Yep, I see it there when I point a browser at that URL and it's listed in the Sources.gz in that directory. Does apt-cache need an extra parameter to tell it to search source packages as well as binaries? -- The freedoms that we enjoy presently are the most important victories of the White Hats over the past several millennia, and it is vitally important that we don't give them up now, only because we are frightened. - Eolake Stobblehouse (http://stobblehouse.com/text/battle.html) ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Debian problems
wow, thats a response. Thanks guys. Can someone net this out? On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 10:45 -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote: On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 04:23:34PM +0100, Alexander Fisher wrote: On 10/24/05, Dave Sherohman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got my main mythtv install off debs at deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv but apt-cache search couldn't find mythplugins there How hard were you looking? :) # apt-get update ... # apt-cache search plugin | grep myth # That hard. http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian/dists/unstable/mythtv/source/ does contain the plugins source package which can be recompiled without any real problems. Yep, I see it there when I point a browser at that URL and it's listed in the Sources.gz in that directory. Does apt-cache need an extra parameter to tell it to search source packages as well as binaries? ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Debian problems
well I tried adding the deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv but still get the problem On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 19:01 -0400, Martin West wrote: wow, thats a response. Thanks guys. Can someone net this out? On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 10:45 -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote: On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 04:23:34PM +0100, Alexander Fisher wrote: On 10/24/05, Dave Sherohman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got my main mythtv install off debs at deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv but apt-cache search couldn't find mythplugins there How hard were you looking? :) # apt-get update ... # apt-cache search plugin | grep myth # That hard. http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian/dists/unstable/mythtv/source/ does contain the plugins source package which can be recompiled without any real problems. Yep, I see it there when I point a browser at that URL and it's listed in the Sources.gz in that directory. Does apt-cache need an extra parameter to tell it to search source packages as well as binaries? ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Debian problems
Ya, add: deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv to your /etc/apt/sources.list Then: apt-get update Then: apt-get -b source mythplugins or: apt-get source mythplugins cd mythplugins-0.18.1/ dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b ...it will be up to you to get the build dependencies (fairly easy). Also, a bunch of stuff is off in the package by default...namely the transcode daemon?!?!?! So: edit: ~/MythTV/mythplugins-0.18.1/debian/rules and add: --enable-transcode (remove --disable-transcode if it is in there) Good luck, Todd - Original Message - From: Martin West [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion about mythtv mythtv-users@mythtv.org Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Debian problems wow, thats a response. Thanks guys. Can someone net this out? On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 10:45 -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote: On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 04:23:34PM +0100, Alexander Fisher wrote: On 10/24/05, Dave Sherohman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got my main mythtv install off debs at deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv but apt-cache search couldn't find mythplugins there How hard were you looking? :) # apt-get update ... # apt-cache search plugin | grep myth # That hard. http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian/dists/unstable/mythtv/source/ does contain the plugins source package which can be recompiled without any real problems. Yep, I see it there when I point a browser at that URL and it's listed in the Sources.gz in that directory. Does apt-cache need an extra parameter to tell it to search source packages as well as binaries? ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Debian problems
I had to build my own plugins, but using the mdz sources made that a snap. Can you please give some details here? sources.list # debian mirror deb http://mirror.direct.ca/linux/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib deb-src http://mirror.direct.ca/linux/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib # liblame deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main # mythtv deb http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv /sources.list apt-get update apt-get build-dep mythtv mythplugins apt-get install fakeroot apt-get source mythplugins cd mythplugins-0.18.1/ dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b dpkg -i ../myth*deb Something like that anyhow. :) -- We are here on Earth to fart around. Don't let anybody tell you any different! -- Kurt Vonnegut ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Debian problems
Thanks On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 12:20 -0700, Todd wrote: Ya, add: deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv to your /etc/apt/sources.list Then: apt-get update Then: apt-get -b source mythplugins or: apt-get source mythplugins cd mythplugins-0.18.1/ dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b ...it will be up to you to get the build dependencies (fairly easy). Also, a bunch of stuff is off in the package by default...namely the transcode daemon?!?!?! So: edit: ~/MythTV/mythplugins-0.18.1/debian/rules and add: --enable-transcode (remove --disable-transcode if it is in there) Good luck, Todd - Original Message - From: Martin West [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion about mythtv mythtv-users@mythtv.org Sent: Monday, October 24, 2005 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] Debian problems wow, thats a response. Thanks guys. Can someone net this out? On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 10:45 -0500, Dave Sherohman wrote: On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 04:23:34PM +0100, Alexander Fisher wrote: On 10/24/05, Dave Sherohman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got my main mythtv install off debs at deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main deb-src http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian unstable mythtv but apt-cache search couldn't find mythplugins there How hard were you looking? :) # apt-get update ... # apt-cache search plugin | grep myth # That hard. http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian/dists/unstable/mythtv/source/ does contain the plugins source package which can be recompiled without any real problems. Yep, I see it there when I point a browser at that URL and it's listed in the Sources.gz in that directory. Does apt-cache need an extra parameter to tell it to search source packages as well as binaries? ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Debian problems
deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main add: deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main and then ' apt-get build-dep mythtv' again. -- We are here on Earth to fart around. Don't let anybody tell you any different! -- Kurt Vonnegut ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Debian problems
Paul Pick wrote: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main add: deb-src ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main and then ' apt-get build-dep mythtv' again. Don't even bother, your stopping on a qt version problem, not on anything nerim.net has. Somebody should take the deb packages down from the mythtv documentation. They are clearly abandoned and no longer maintained. -Mike ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Debian problems
Somebody should take the deb packages down from the mythtv documentation. They are clearly abandoned and no longer maintained. The last update was 5 weeks ago. I'd hardly call that abandoned. All the binary packages except for the plugins worked for me (on sid). I had to build my own plugins, but using the mdz sources made that a snap. -- We are here on Earth to fart around. Don't let anybody tell you any different! -- Kurt Vonnegut ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
Re: [mythtv-users] Debian problems
Paul Pick wrote: Somebody should take the deb packages down from the mythtv documentation. They are clearly abandoned and no longer maintained. The last update was 5 weeks ago. I'd hardly call that abandoned. All the binary packages except for the plugins worked for me (on sid). I had to build my own plugins, but using the mdz sources made that a snap. Just around 4 months shy for a partially working repository right? Just like you said, 'building using the mdz sources made that a snap'. I call that 'abandoned'. If they aren't going for inclusion into debian proper, and they can't keep up with the nosebleed changes. The solution is simple. Don't target sid otherwise its all in vain. But putting it into the documentation is just going to trip everybody up. A good example is this very thread. -Mike ___ mythtv-users mailing list mythtv-users@mythtv.org http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-users
