Re: [mythtv-users] Do I need a new DVI cable for 1080p?

2006-01-05 Thread Byron Poland
On 1/5/06, Steve Adeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday 05 January 2006 16:00, Yeechang Lee wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> says:
> > > Based on the information I read here:
> > >http://www.datapro.net/techinfo/dvi_info.html#Page03
> > > I don't think a dual-link cable would do you any good, as the monitor can
> > > d= isplay a maximum resolution of 1920x1080.
> >
> > Yes, but that Webpage is almost certainly assuming 1080i on the part
> > of the reader. I figure that if my card can do 1080p, and the monitor
> > can do 1080p (and, of course, all LCD panels are by definition
> > progressive devices, whether or not the input signal is such), so I'd
> > want the connection in between to be able to handle 1080p. Based on my
> > reading of Xorg.log my cable doesn't seem to qualify.
>
> from my quick google search it appears that single-link 1080p DVI cables
> exist, which would lead me to assume that single link is capable of 1080p
> signal transmission.
>
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I have the same TV, the LVM-37w1, and drive it with an nvidia 6200
through the DVI (1) - the one on the left when facing the screen, its
the only one capable of accepting 1080p.  I didn't do any research on
cables, and used one I had bought a few years ago for an lcd monitor. 
It was probably the cheapest one I could get at the time.  I don't
have any issues with the display, some motion problems with live
programing, but that is  a software, or pc hardware issue.  Myth
displays wonderfully.  I used a modeline from an email to this list
from Jarod.
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Re: [mythtv-users] Do I need a new DVI cable for 1080p?

2006-01-05 Thread Steve Adeff
On Thursday 05 January 2006 16:00, Yeechang Lee wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> says:
> > Based on the information I read here:
> >http://www.datapro.net/techinfo/dvi_info.html#Page03
> > I don't think a dual-link cable would do you any good, as the monitor can
> > d= isplay a maximum resolution of 1920x1080.
>
> Yes, but that Webpage is almost certainly assuming 1080i on the part
> of the reader. I figure that if my card can do 1080p, and the monitor
> can do 1080p (and, of course, all LCD panels are by definition
> progressive devices, whether or not the input signal is such), so I'd
> want the connection in between to be able to handle 1080p. Based on my
> reading of Xorg.log my cable doesn't seem to qualify.

from my quick google search it appears that single-link 1080p DVI cables 
exist, which would lead me to assume that single link is capable of 1080p 
signal transmission.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Do I need a new DVI cable for 1080p?

2006-01-05 Thread Yeechang Lee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> says:
> Based on the information I read here:
>http://www.datapro.net/techinfo/dvi_info.html#Page03
> I don't think a dual-link cable would do you any good, as the monitor can d=
> isplay a maximum resolution of 1920x1080.

Yes, but that Webpage is almost certainly assuming 1080i on the part
of the reader. I figure that if my card can do 1080p, and the monitor
can do 1080p (and, of course, all LCD panels are by definition
progressive devices, whether or not the input signal is such), so I'd
want the connection in between to be able to handle 1080p. Based on my
reading of Xorg.log my cable doesn't seem to qualify.

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Re: [mythtv-users] Do I need a new DVI cable for 1080p?

2006-01-05 Thread kteague
> -Original Message-
>when playing a HD recording, sometimes I'll see the top 1/6 of the
>screen slightly out of phrase with the remainder; it changes

I own the same TV, however, I have not used it under Linux yet.  I've been 
playing a lot of 1080i content from my PC using Windows Media Player 10, and I 
have not noticed the problem you're describing here.  I do, at times, see my 
video and audio stutter, but I believe it's due to CPU and/or HDD I/O -- most 
likely HDD I/O.  The stutter is very occasional and only lasts for a split 
second.  The PC I'm using is slower than yours, also.  It's a 2.4GHz P4 w/1GB 
and an nVidia 5700 Ultra.

Being that it's only affecting a small portion of your video, I have a feeling 
your problem may be due to deinterlacing.  Perhaps you can try disabling the 
deinterlacing option to see if it remedies the problem.


> 2) /var/log/Xorg.log tells me that the card has a single link
>connection to the display. Should I buy a new, explicitly dual-link
>DVI cable?  My cable's connectors have all the pins needed for dual
>link, but I don't know if that's the only factor involved in
>whether a cable is dual-link compliant or not.

Based on the information I read here:
   http://www.datapro.net/techinfo/dvi_info.html#Page03
I don't think a dual-link cable would do you any good, as the monitor can 
display a maximum resolution of 1920x1080.  I'm sure that using a dual-link 
cable shouldn't hurt, but I don't think you'll get any benefit from it.

- Ken


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Re: [mythtv-users] Do I need a new DVI cable for 1080p?

2006-01-05 Thread Steve Adeff
On Thursday 05 January 2006 11:19, Yeechang Lee wrote:
> The picture looks fantastic, but having never owned a HDTV before I don't
> know if I'm missing out on something. Two things:
>
> 1) When there's movement of the entire picture (if, say, the camera
>pans or zooms, as opposed to a person walking across a static room)
>when playing a HD recording, sometimes I'll see the top 1/6 of the
>screen slightly out of phrase with the remainder; it changes
>slightly ahead or behind the rest. Otherwise, the picture is
>entirely consistent. Is this simply a function of the computer not
>being able to quite keep up with the work of displaying the
>movement? I do have Myth deinterlacing with the kernel codec
>without XvMC, have OpenGL XV sync on on both nvidia-settings and
>Myth, and am using Jarod Wilson's modeline for this specific panel.

very well could be speed, did you notice this on your previous HD screen?

It may also be your tv trying to do double duty in i->p conversion?
from what I remember people here saying, that TV accepts 1080p signals, does 
your tv show that it is accepting your computers signal as progressive?

> 2) /var/log/Xorg.log tells me that the card has a single link
>connection to the display. Should I buy a new, explicitly dual-link
>DVI cable?  My cable's connectors have all the pins needed for dual
>link, but I don't know if that's the only factor involved in
>whether a cable is dual-link compliant or not.

dual link only requires the extra connectors on the cable to carry a signal, 
yours might have the pins but no wires from one end to the other.

Whether it matters I'm not sure. Your TV would definitely have to support dual 
link, which it should, and the video card would as well, which I'm not sure 
of. If they do, in theory the picture quality will be better as more data can 
be sent... I have no experience in practice with this though, but at the 
price ramelectronics.net and some of the other quality online cable stores 
have DVI-D dual link cables for, it might just be worth buying one, testing 
and returning if the results aren't worth the price you paid.

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